It’s been so long since we lost a goal it feels like there should be an inquest today. A couple of mistakes in a wide position, followed by two deflections, which confused Craig Gordon, and that’s all it took. I’m OK with this. We’ll make mistakes and lose goals, this is one of the better ways of doing so.
Of slightly more concern was how St Johnstone match us for possession and chances created or long period during the game, belying their bottom half of the table position, some 7 points shy of Hamilton. Ronny will be keen to turnaround this specific ill for next week’s game against Accies, but the plan for Thursday will be altogether different.
Had a great time on Friday at the Irvine CSC, a very impressive club in the Ayrshire town. Get along and support it if you are in the area, they are doing a lot of good work. There’s no better way to prepare for a game against Inter Milan than to listen to Stevie Chalmers and Bobby Lennox telling you how it’s done, as they did at Irvine.
Thanks in particular to the man who put a bunch of tenners in my hand for Mary’s Meals. What a club!
Big week ahead……
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alfie noakes
05:46 on 16 February, 2015
Scottish Labour Leader Jim Murphy hits out at Twitter trolls who accused him of trying to cash in on Clutha tragedy
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Morning first of six days off…Jamesgang you enjoy yer work me old son…
Watched Jim Murphy being interviewed on the evening of the tragedy, he certainly didn’t sound or look to me as though he was trying to gain any political browny points.
Went right off him recently, but the guy did his bit that night.. It was a tragic event
Ayrshire is Green and White
Jamesgang
Paltry excuse for being absent from work!
Watch out!
Anyone watching the Inter v Atalanta highlights posted by Neil Lennon & McCartney about 01:30, Inter are the team in white!
Just incase there’s a mad rush to get to the bookie’s.
Alfie Noakes
05:46 on
16 February, 2015
Scottish Labour Leader Jim Murphy hits out at Twitter trolls who accused him of trying to cash in on Clutha tragedy
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There are a number of Murphy-haters who frequent this forum – just answered one earlier on – however, let’s hope to God no one associated with Celtic was associated with the disgusting Clutha smear.
I still cannot get my head round why some Celtic supporters shower their bile on Jim – but they do.
Disagree with him OK, but do not doubt his desire to do good for, and in, Scotland.
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yip, i read it right the first time,
Alfie pulling people up for dishing out abuse
This from a guy whose virtually every post contains some form of abuse, mainly against other CQNers
Oh the irony
(Wonder if that was him with the rat mask outside £1brox on friday night)
I see Collum is getting pelters from the SMSM. He does deserve it, of course. But when was the last time you saw a ref being criticised after an awful performance (like Collum’s when we played thon died team) during one of our games. Mind you, it happens too often, I suppose, to merit any mention.
Get those foreign refs in again.
Alfie Noakes –
That happened over a year ago. I’m talking about the Twitter abuse, not the tragedy.
Why are you regurgitating a year-old story to make some random point?
I smell desperation.
I was in Motherwell yesterday visiting family. My father drinks in Carfin and while having a couple of beers on Friday, he bumped into an old workmate who happens to be the father of the woman whose partner, a Rangers man, was beaten to a pulp in Newarthill on the night of the League Cup semi.
As you may recall, the Daily Record reported that he was the victim of a sectarian attack perpetrated by Celtic supporters, according to his partner.
The woman’s father claimed his daughter said no such thing. In fact, he maintains that the Record reporter asked her if it was Celtic supporters who attacked her partner and she told them she had no idea. She was shocked upon discovering that the Record had translated her comments into “yes it was definitely Celtic supporters”.
If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it and every reason to believe it, the Record has placed that woman in an invidious position because they lied just to manufacture a sectarian angle to the story where they had no proof of such a motive.
Clashcitybhoy @ 23 19
I don’t know but I don’t think so. I will checj with a Wollongong based Tim who has seen them over 40 times.
Jimbo67
Being allowed to drink in football grounds seems to be getting an airing on Radio Scotland today. While it wouldn’t affect me, as I normally drive to games, I think it should be the norm, given that it is possible already, if you can pay for an expensive ticket.
It seems that the powers that be reckon that the underclasses will go home and batter their wives, if it is allowed. I think that ought be challenged.
tom mclaughlin
08:36 on 16 February, 2015
I was in Motherwell yesterday visiting family. My father drinks in Carfin and while having a couple of beers on Friday, he bumped into an old workmate who happens to be the father of the woman whose partner, a Rangers man, was beaten to a pulp in Newarthill on the night of the League Cup semi.
As you may recall, the Daily Record reported that he was the victim of a sectarian attack perpetrated by Celtic supporters, according to his partner.
The woman’s father claimed his daughter said no such thing. In fact, he maintains that the Record reporter asked her if it was Celtic supporters who attacked her partner and she told them she had no idea. She was shocked upon discovering that the Record had translated her comments into “yes it was definitely Celtic supporters”.
If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it and every reason to believe it, the Record has placed that woman in an invidious position because they lied just to manufacture a sectarian angle to the story where they had no proof of such a motive.
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Saw the article the day it broke and immediately thought it reeked….. and stated so.
The woman wasn’t present when it happened….No surprise from the rag….
Ayrshire is Green and White
Is it broken
HH
THEBHOYWITHMCGRAININHISSIDE
Might well be the occasional waif and stray around Kelly’s Cellars as soon as it opens!
If you hear a few Scottish accents from fellas who look like they’ve been dragged through a weekend backwards,say hi…
Dia dhaoibh ar maidin.
BMCUWP, I took the plunge last night. Glad you got home safe. Hope to make it to more CQN events in the future.
Meeting Tims in Belfast made me think about how I started following Celtic originally. In the late ’60s and early ’70s young people were encouraged to declare their support for a soccer team, usually an English one. Leeds, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man U were among the popular choices at the time. My Dad liked Liverpool although he never declared himself a supporter. My eldest brother followed Everton and another older brother supported Leeds. I resisted declaring for anyone, instead I followed ‘Heffo’s Army’ as the GAA were the favoured sport in our household. In the end I gave in to peer pressure and in February 1972 I adopted Celtic as my team, much to the chagrin of everyone who knew me. People pestered me to choose an English team as my first team. I knew nothing at all about Celtic, I just liked the name and haven’t looked back since. Celtic are my one and only team and meeting fellow Tims in Béal Feirste on Saturday night confirmed what an excellent decision I made 43 years ago this month.
Coinnígí an creideamh (KTF)
ALMORE
I just read it,mate. Good to have you on board. A fella with your knowledge and commitment is always welcome.
Glad you made it back to Dublin,and I hope we’ll see you again. Often.
Now,you have your knowledge and commitment,but we’ve got your badges,haha!
Smashing…
Btw,I’ve got a DUBLIN GAA jersey.
Strange hues,I wouldn’t wear it down The Gallowgate!
Morning Folks.
Just a quick appeal for any raffle prizes or items to auction in support of the appeal from St Ambrose High School in Coatbridge to raise money for a medical assessment centre in Malawi.
They are having a bit of a bash on Friday night and if anyone has anything they want to donate or which might raise a few bob then please let me know and I will happily come and collect etc.
Thanks
BRTH
Tom McLaughlin
Re your story about the Newarthill man who was assaulted.
Unfortunately my experience of the newspaper group you mention is such that the standard of reporting,misinformation and inaccuracy is truly dreadful and very manipulative.
almore
Welcome.
Good story about how you found Celtic.
Like your sign off.
BMCUP,
Just between ourselves, did Ard Macha behave himself at the weekend, or did he revert to type?
Almore
Delighted you are posting and said so last evensong.
Thanks for clearing that up. I thought you had said the 9.30 bus going back to Dublin.
I was thinking good luck with that.and thought that there was as much chance of that happening as 16 “taking it easy” on the Friday on his sojourn with ACGR. We seen how that panned out.
Anyway really enjoyed your company and the Craic. Make sure to keep posting. The first couple are brammers so you have set the bar high lol.
Incidentally there is/was a “Rankers” supporters club which operated from/desecrated our capital city. They used to talk about how they operated behind enemy lines.
Once again thanks to all the bhoys who made the effort for the Hoot.
Is mo na cumann e
THOMTHETHIM
Dunno,bud. I was a bit tired and emotional,haha!
No,seriously-he was in fine form,a gentleman like all of our hosts. Apart from Dena,who was the toast of the town,magic craic from every single one of them.
The NI Tourist Board should employ them,they sold every one of us on their city.
Including a midnight vigil outside St Mary’s!!!
GEAROID1998
Mail ya shortly,but thanks so so much for all your help,assistance,guidance and Egon Ronay input.
Etc.
I hope your better half lets you off the leash more often,meanwhile enjoy New York.
There’s some of us still don’t know whether it’s New Year or New York after that weekend,all I know is it’s time for a pint.
re tom mclaughlin`s
08:36 on 16 February, 2015, post:
If I recall accurately, a few posters were critical of the woman at the time. If Tom`s source is accurate, indeed, even if it is not accurate, I hope those who give ANY credence to DR articles will have learned a lesson.
JJ
BMCUW,
So he did revert to type, then.
A great lad, never fails to buy me a pint!
Boaby,
Was at Mass in St.Mary’s in Church Lane on a couple of occasions.
Mass was in Irish and kinda difficult for me to follow!
Beautiful wee chapel with an interesting history.
http://stmarysbelfast.org/
thomthethim for Oscar OK
23:52 on 15 February, 2015shamrock hoops
21:35 on 15 February, 2015
Scotland’s shame at it again!!
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They need all the money that they can get their grubby hands on.
Wait till Inter see the canteen menu!
Yup, a vending machine and microwave, quality Ping cuisine.
Gearoid1888
Unfortunately the “behind enemy line” knuckle draggers are still in operation, I also had the misfortune to bump in to a few of their ilk the last time I was in Dublin
Dreadful info re the DR
Not surprised at all….an anchronism who are desperate to keep the “old firm” alive for their own ends regardless of the consequences …shameful
gearoid,
Sorry I never got up to see you.
I will have another trip or two before May to Solitude and for a swally or ten with 16 roads.
Hopefully we will get a beer and a blether then.
Gearoid, cheers. Arriving at 7 and leaving a couple of hours later would have been too cheeky. Always loved a session in Belfast. Pity I missed a few posters who attended, as I said I’ll make a better effort next time.
Huns in Dublin. I work with one and am enjoying his pain. I’ve also met a few through my work. The worst ones are quite secretive about how they meet up etc. Believe it or not I took a Hun supporter on my Celtic tour three years in a row. He only outed himself on the last tour but a nicer chap you couldn’t meet.
BMCUWP. Wearing blue is strange for me too but they are the county colours. Brought a friend over to Glasgow years ago. He didn’t have a Celtic top so he wore his Limerick jersey..
He got a very favourable response from Ghirls!
MickTT
Were you at the Irvine csc do ??
Alfie Noakes.@ 23 57
Soul Brothers Six.
Obsessive Compulsive me has lots of their choons.Really liked them back in the day but now find the vocals strained and a tad too shouty .
CQN,
Great to meet you all at the weekend.
Well done Gearoid and 16 Roads for the hosting.
thomthethim,
Anois, is leor sin!
RayMillandCSC.
Árd Macha
pfayr supports weeoscar
09:47 on 16 February, 2015
MickTT
Were you at the Irvine csc do ??
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Yes…Was a fantastic night
Ayrshire is Green and White
tom mclaughlin
08:36 on 16 February, 2015
I was in Motherwell yesterday visiting family. My father drinks in Carfin and while having a couple of beers on Friday, he bumped into an old workmate who happens to be the father of the woman whose partner, a Rangers man, was beaten to a pulp in Newarthill on the night of the League Cup semi.
As you may recall, the Daily Record reported that he was the victim of a sectarian attack perpetrated by Celtic supporters, according to his partner.
The woman’s father claimed his daughter said no such thing. In fact, he maintains that the Record reporter asked her if it was Celtic supporters who attacked her partner and she told them she had no idea. She was shocked upon discovering that the Record had translated her comments into “yes it was definitely Celtic supporters”.
If this is true, and I have no reason to doubt it and every reason to believe it, the Record has placed that woman in an invidious position because they lied just to manufacture a sectarian angle to the story where they had no proof of such a motive.
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A Zombie on FF posted exactly what happened that day as he knew all concerned.
He gave the main perpetrator’s nickname and was accused of being a Timposter by other posters.
He then invited any accusers to private message him to verify his story.
He was then banned.For telling the truth!
I see that Inter are training at some lower league facility on Thursday. You would have thought a big club like that would have wanted a top class base, wouldn’t you?
And Ireland beat the West Indies at cricket!
Boaby
Mrs is grand when it’s to do with the famous Glasgow Celtic. She did her teacher training at St Andrews in Glasgow so she gets “it”.
It’s just that over Christmas she had a big birthday and I had promised NY at Valentines. Then along came the date’s for the Hoot in mBeal Feirste. So thanks for that. No contest btw.
I’m currently in Sligo by way of atonement for the Hoot and the Milan away.
HH Boaby
bobby murdoch’s curled-up winklepickers
09:07 on 16 February, 2015
Kelly’s cellars it is then. It’ll make a change from the parador.
Click link & check comments at bottom regarding VB & Police.
http://scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2013/09/questions-over-nimmo-smith-inquiry-as.html?m=1
Questions over Nimmo-Smith inquiry as leak reveals Rangers given no title-stripping immunity guarantee in secret SPL deal
Lord Nimmo SmithCall for inquiry statement on revelations of SPL-Rangers immunity deal. As the Rangers FC saga continues, a leak of a document detailing a questionable immunity deal for TRFCL has drawn the attention of the media. Given the legal issues raised by the documents particularly in relation to the independent’ inquiry chaired by Lord Nimmo Smith, a guest report on the revelations by ‘ecojon’ is today published on Scottish Law Reporter.
It should be noted the leaked documents referred to in the article have been published by a resurrected CharllotteFakes2, who has been the subject of previous reports on Scottish Law Reporter relating to on-going investigations by Police Scotland & the Crown Office. The Twitter account known as @charlotteFakes previously reported as deleted, has also been reinstated.
Guest Report : Rangers given no title-stripping guarantee in secret SPL deal by ecojon :
The darkest dirtiest secret in Scottish Football has now been revealed and it will shake the Beautiful Game to its core as well as the Scottish legal system.
Boiled down and stripped of legalese the shameful guarantee states: ‘The SPL hereby undertakes solely and exclusively to Sevco and to no other Person . . . that the SPL shall not . . . take or commence disciplinary proceedings against Sevco . . . in respect of any EBT Payments and Arrangements’.
What is even more incredible is that this deal was struck and distributed with the 5-Way Agreement before Lord Nimmo Smith began his enquiry and before the FTTT announced its verdict on the Rangers tax allegations.
We need clear unequivocal statements by Lord Nimmo Smith and Neil Doncaster and someone, anyone at the SFA who isn’t ‘conflicted’ to reveal the long hidden truth behind the most serious revelation ever to shine daylight on the many dark secrets held in the Hampden bunker.
Many of us have incessantly debated the controversial findings of Lord Nimmo Smith’s Inquiry into Rangers’ EBTs since its release in February this year. There was widespread disbelief at the conclusions and many believed it was just another example of how the scales were weighted in favour of Rangers.
Anyone who has followed my posts will know that I have always supported the integrity of LNS and his two learned colleagues in the sense that the woeful preparation and presentation of the SPL case gave the Tribunal little or no room for manoeuvre in reaching its conclusions. And of course there was the ludicrous intervention of the SFA’s top man in Player Registration which made the name ‘Bryson’ synonymous with ‘clown’ among Scottish Football fans.
On top of that LNS breathed life into the ‘continuing club’ controversy which has fuelled incessant and often bitter internet debate and indeed sparked the recent vicious attacks on Jim Spence and his family and BBC Scotland – once again – by Rangers fans many of whom openly boast they refuse to buy a TV Licence to support an enemy of Rangers.
For months now we have witnessed an outpouring of information from Charlotte Fakes who has risen above early suspicion that her works were indeed clever fakes to the point that no one disputes their authenticity and, indeed, she has allegedly been reported to the Information Commissioner which is probably the best possible guarantee of the authenticity of the documentation she has provided even though her motives are still unclear.
She recently released what appears to be the final draft of the 5-Way Agreement between Oldco Rangers, Newco Rangers, the SFA, SPL and SFL which had important snippets not present in previous versions including a promise by Rangers and a prominent external newco shareholder not to take legal action the SFA, SPL and SFL and their officers and officials.
This was first alluded to in the Rangers AIM Prospectus in December last year but the reasons for the Rangers undertaking have never been clear although the documentation seemed to suggest that Rangers had been wronged in some way and was holding back on justifiable legal action possibly because it felt blackmailed by the threat of total expulsion from Scottish Football if it didn’t agree to the sanctions of the 5-Way Agreement which had originally mooted title-stripping.
One thing that puzzled me when the 5-Way Agreement was revealed was why there had ever been any need by the Scottish Football Authorities to keep it so tightly under wraps. Everything was basically in the open by then in terms of sanctions although there was the curious matter of the no legal action clause.
But yesterday Charlotte Fakes released a brutal hammer blow which will destroy all remnants of tattered credibility in the Hampden suits and, more importantly, cast serious doubt on the integrity of the Scottish legal system which must be urgently dealt with.
So what has Charlotte gone and done? Only release to the world details of the secret and tawdry side deal proposed by the SPL and agreed to by the SFA and SFL to grant immunity to Rangers newco (TRFCL) from any disciplinary action arising out of the use of Rangers EBTs and the failure to annually register the payments involved with the SFA.
This guarantee was made months before the Lord Nimmo Smith Inquiry sat for the first time and even before its Notice of Commission was prepared and it was given even before the FTTT largely ruled in Rangers’ favour over its use of the EBTs.
At this stage we don’t know if Lord Nimmo Smith and his two colleagues were aware of this incredible secret stitch-up between the signatories of the 5-Way Agreement before they heard any evidence or whether they too were kept in the dark by the Scottish Footballing Authorities who have honed their skills as mushroom farmers for decades by feeding BS to Scottish football fans.
What we not only need but deserve is a clear statement by Lord Nimmo Smith on behalf of his tribunal and its decision as to whether he knew before any evidence was given that a secret guarantee of immunity had been given to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. If he did know can he explain why he was prepared to proceed on that basis and help create some of the aggro which is tearing apart the fabric of Scottish Football and poisoning Society with strange and alien concepts of a never-ending always continuing football club which defies liquidation of its legal operating entity and repeatedly and eternally rises intact from the ashes as a company with a brand new legal entity but which isn’t a Phoenix company.
As to the SFA and SPL/SFL now in the persona of the shiny, brand-new SPFL – unless it too takes no responsibility for the deeds of its deid ancestors – what we need is a straight answer to whether the Charlotte Fakes documentation is bona fide and whether it was signed by Neil Doncaster whose name is on the draft and distributed to the SFA and SFL as stated along with the 5-Way Agreement.
And as for the SMSM isn’t it time you actually grew a pair and dealt with the serious allegations raised by the release of the Charlotte Fakes material. Does the public interest count for nothing in Scotland? If you or your editors are frightened of the ‘dirty little secrets’ an aging and failing PR man in crisis has on you then now is the time to be Spartacus and if you can’t manage that at least do a Jim Spence. You don’t need to use the documents if you are scared – all you need to do is ask the questions.
If you are told ‘No Comment’ then publish and be Spartacus and let the public know the truth and make their own judgement on the way Scotland and Scottish Football is run. If you continue to hide behind weak excuses think about moving to PR as that would seem to be your true home and there will be no crisis of conscience as none exists there as far as representing commercial non-ethical clients.
However be assured that if you cower in a dark corner, close your eyes and dream of being a Twitter Warrior then your readers will continue to judge your inability to tell the truth and turn, in ever increasing numbers, to the internet for their news albeit with many imperfections but at least with lots of people trying to prevent the truth being choked by a surfeit of succulent lamb.
And Lord Nimmo Smith as probably your staunchest supporter since your tribunal decision was issued I think I am entitled to ask another question on behalf of the much-respected poster Auldheid who truly has the wisdom of age – as reflected in his moniker – and the energy and perseverance of a young bull elephant when it came to uncovering and revealing the implications of Rangers DOS and the reluctance of all concerned including SMSM to mention it.
I had always thought that this cloak of secrecy was to hide the implications of the Wee Tax Case which should have prevented European entry for Rangers, without the sleight of hand of the Hampden suits. But now I wonder if there was a much darker motive in play as part of the secret immunity for TRFCL.
Quite simply LNS! Were you ever told or given evidence concerning the details of the Rangers Discounted Options Scheme as distinct from their EBT scheme and were you aware of the un-appealed FTTT Decision in the Aberdeen Asset Management(AAM) case concerning DOS schemes which ruled them as illegal under tax laws?
In your tribunal decision you refer to treating the EBT scheme as a continuation of the DOS scheme – cloaked under a suitably confusing name – but did you know that one very senior witness to your enquiry was well aware of the differences and I would find it incredulous that they were unaware of the implications of the AAM FTTT Decision on the Rangers DOS.
And if you weren’t apprised of the differences then it’s over to Neil Doncaster to explain whether this was another dirty secret and if not how did the SPL fail to discover and present absolutely critical evidence re the Rangers DOS which IMO could well have led Lord Nimmo Smith to stripping titles.
The Celts are on a roll.
Whilst we are not world beaters, I have this great inner feeling we are going to win the Treble.
Then again it might all collapse around us and we could end up empty handed.
Aberdeen are pushing us and I reckon that’s a great thing for football .
Forgive me for not getting too excited about Inter Milan.
The Treble is the aim for me and I think we will do it.Ronny, make yourself a Celtic legend..