I reckoned Champions League participation was worth circa £22m to Celtic. By contrast, Europa League football will be worth less than a quarter of that. Ancillary income, such as retail and kiosk sales, will also suffer.
The challenge now is to improve the team without that income. This should not be impossible. Malmo managed it, and we’re not in a situation where the bank is hammering at the door. But what should be clear, is that the next five days represent the best chance to strengthen the team for next August’s qualifiers. There’s a notion that the biggest games of our season come early, but we’ve 11 months to plan for 2016’s biggest games.
Three things to remind you about:
Golfers: buy a raffle ticket for £1 to win a round of golf FOR FOUR PEOPLE at the magnificent Aberdour course in Fife. Competition ends on Saturday, get your tickets here!!! It’s offered by Taggsybhoy, in support of the Foundation.
There’s a Mary’s Meals collection from 1pm on the Celtic Way ahead of the game on Saturday. Ideally we’re looking for backpacks, but handtowels (the school kitchens you paid for have handwashing facilities and each child is given their own handtowel), pencils, rulers, etc.
If the kids got new kit for starting school last week, dig out the old stuff and bring it along.
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Is it true to say that Marks Rosenburg a seasoned 32 year old pro terrorized our defense last Tuesday night.
Mixed feeling about Malmo’s draw in UCL. They are prestige ties that I would have loved to go to so a bit gutted. However, I think we all know we would have severely struggled with all of them home and away. The highlight of our last champions league campaign was a win at home to a poor Ajax team via a deflected goal from Kayal, I cringe every time they play that video at Parkhead. The rest, bar 70 mins in Milan, was quite painful viewing. Which Euro campaign did you enjoy more 2013-2014 or 2014-2015?
The only way Tuesday’s exit is not a complete disaster is if we have a decent Europa League run and are still in Europe post Christmas. Again the pressure is on, it won’t be easy and we will have to put in good performances.
When you look at some of the teams who didn’t make the Champions League and the Europa League it also puts things in perspective somewhat. Don’t get me wrong we absolutely blew it from a great position in the tie. What perplexes me, is Qarabag away. We put in arguably one of most mature away performances in recent years against a decent team side (went on to put Young Boys out 4-0 agg) but followed that up with a total naïve one in Malmo.
Ah well, draw lunchtime, game on Saturday, onwards and upwards??? more like onwards and onwards……………..
Don’t like RD and never his the fact but Tuesday is down to the players. 3 times I’ve read “we lost the tie when they scored late goal”.Going into game with that mind set no wonder we performed the way we did. Shite. Bags the lot of them.
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 28th August 2015 10:07 am – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/financial-cost-and-prep-for-2016/comment-page-17/#comment-2664934
Mate.
The reality.
Money matters.
It may be regrettable,but it`s a fact.
You say:
The point which PFAYR,myself and others are making is that footballing strategy is being driven by non-footballing people at the club,or PLC. Indeed,the footballing side of things is supporting the PLC,not the other way round.
Hard to believe.Nevertheless I`ll try.
The ” footballing side of things” has cost us 20,30 million squid.
The footballing side of things has FAILED.
Results matter.
Only results.
Failures aka Deila must go .
Do you seriously think that accountants would have changed the Malmo result?
The problem is onfield.
Not off-field.
We need a face to face.
When I can straighten you out .
:-)
Face to face.
I look forward to it.
Batterdbunnet
Swedish press had said biggest weakness with us was lack of goal scorers
If we had strikers it keeps the ball up the park
Our biggest weakness
Hate to say this and I know I’m stating the obvious but Scottish Football is almost dead and the clubs including us are on the way out. Market forces etc have seen to it that we are being starved of much needed money and without the aid of a crystal ball our Club is reaching the end of the road. The future is dire, action required now.
We simply must get out of Scotland. Stop dreaming of things past. It’s OK being the biggest fish, in Scotland’s wee pool but I guess there are teams like ours in San Marino, Luxembourg who are the big fish in their pool, but do hee -haw outside in the big sea.
Seriously worried.
KINGLuBO
Morning Timland from a hot hun free mountain valley.
KevJ
Me thinks you may well be spot on with this.
“I can’t shake the feeling that…somewhere along the lines…Murray and, Desmond were forced into a corner because of the revelations of the Internet-Bampots and, they cooked up this agreement that – Rangers FC would start again in Division 3 and, avoid paying ‘any’ of the stolen money or, trophies back – giving Celtic a chance to hoover-up the CL-money-pot for the next 3/4 years and, let the daftie Celtic supporters glutton-feast on ice cream & jelly….and dance on Rangers graves…falling for the scam…hook-line-and-sinker.”
Problem is for us, we blew it.
And we will again, our only decent defender is about to be sold, with no replacement on the horizon, loans, who knows, but we will go into the CL qualifiers next year, IF we win the league, with a half cocked defence.
Aye, wonderful forward planning.
And some on here still blame the coach.
HH
Chavez
I’ve been banging on about Matej Jelic – Croatian Striker playing for Zilina. 6FT tall striker socring in Europa league. Unlucky to go out to Bilbao
Jakub Paur his midfield team mate.
Both good enough for Celtic IMHO.
I don’t think our Scouts even visit Eastern Europe and by pass it for Israel.
SYDNEYTIM on 28TH AUGUST 2015 10:17 AM
Bobby. A campaign now of no Celtic merchandise
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Yeah.
Let`s all harm Celtic.
Speaketh whom?
A Hun or a Tim.
Sydney,pal.
It`s not the way.
Macjay. You can only do well on field if supported off field. Last two years our off field did not support the team
Big jock and Martin would have told lawell where to go
Roy Keane apparently asked for all transfer money to go to him. Pl said no
AGM balance sheet Comes first
Lennons Passion
That’s brilliant well done 5 winners .
Speaking of which I have been recommended these 5 today
2.30 Newmarket Pursuitoftehstars
3.40 Newmarket Firnas
5.55 Hamilton Loveable Rogue
6.00 Down Royal Carlyan
6.25 Hamiltion Rural Celebration
Best of luck
Macjay. It was the only thing that worked in 1994 Hold back the cash and change things
Fans cash is going to peters pension plan
A failed CEO when it comes to results on the park
HANKRAY on 28TH AUGUST 2015 10:25 AM
See Southampton got dumped out of Europe by a Danish club last night. Nothing is certain in Europe against teams well into their season. Pretty daunting Champions League group for Malmo
With the goal scored by a certain Mr Rasmussen
Good enjoyable football related posts this morning. I hate the knee jerk reactions to a bad defeat and good Tims & Trolls vying with each other to denigrate the Club.
Don’t really want to talk about Sevco but Kev J’s post made their progress a central issue. There is no doubt they have improved a lot with little or no investment. I realise that they are playing in a lower League and their Cup game with St, Johnstone will be a better barometer. However it is an indication of what a good Manager can bring to the Club.
Which brings me to the point of my post, how good or bad is Ronny. I was totally underwhelmed when he was appointed and totally disenchanted by his set up and tactics in his first European campaign. Over his first year he grew into the job and I began to buy in to his philosophy. I was reasonably happy with how things were going this season and with the way we negotiated the first two European rounds. I was even happy with first Malmo game and thought we were desperately unlucky to only have a 1 goal lead. Then out of the blue we had this week’s horror show and it was like pricking a balloon. All the feel good factor built up was gone in a flash.
For me the entire Ronny project is at a crossroad, The team owes us big time after the Malmo debacle, pay back needs to start tomorrow, ditch the Ronny Roar , less theatrics and more substance. I won’t give up on him or the team because of one game but I have to admit that my early misgivings are again haunting me.
“In one game it’s not worked for us. Yet, over the course of last season I think domestically we conceded about two goals from set-pieces.
“But against Malmo we’ve conceded three over two ties. That’s obviously disappointing.
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Interesting defence of zonal marking, but you have to realise that in Europe you will face better deliveries, better finishers and more intelligent players and coaches who know how to exploit weaknesses. See Milan 2013 for more evidence…..
Macjay. In 1993 I wrote to Kevin kelly and asked him if there would be investment on the park
If not I would use the money and join the local golf club
No reply was forthcoming and as such I boycotted season 93/94. It was hard after watching Celtic home and away since 1979
But in the end my decision and thousands like me changed things for the better
Time to stand up and do it again
Boruc Telfer Mcmanus O’dea Naylor Nakamura Lennon Sno McGeady Jarosik Vennegoor
Subs used
K Miller Gravesen Beattie
That was the team that agonisingly lost in extra time in the knockout stages to eventual winners AC Milan
So….would they all have got in to todays team?
Or did they over achieve due to the manager and coaching teams homework and strategy
Corkcelt. In a way I agree with you
The idea of playing at home preseason was a great idea. We have a great training camp and Scottish summers are not that bad
But!! To be given about 1.5m to invest in CL is a joke
No good manager can do anything with that
Mackay and Sydney….
Just out of curiosity….
What are the main similarities with 93/94?
What are the main differences with 93/94?
HH
MACJAY 1029
Aye,I know. Gave me a perfect lead for a rant though!
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The footballing side is failing because it is being driven by non-footballing interests.
Our team is seriously weakened by a Chief Executive who faints at the sight of a fiver,whether he’s about to lose it or gain it.
Engineering companies stagnate when they don’t invest in new machinery. They don’t tend to sell their current stuff then go onto e-bay for a replacement.
I’ll give you one example as a for instance,our centre-half situation. We knew Denayer was leaving,we know Virgil will. Their replacement is ONE centre-half,older than each,with less than two dozen games.
That’s not planning for a golden future. That’s ripping the bloody pish.
Btw,I’m home from 2-18 Oct,so hopefully meet up. I’ll ask SYDNEYTIM to forward my details to you.
Hoop hoop. I think most of those players would not better due to salary budgets now
Bit of talk this morning about discontented fans harming Celtic.
The people harming Celtic are those in charge of the club who are fixated on achieving healthy balance sheets every year through rigid financial prudence.
JUSTAFAN on 28TH AUGUST 2015 11:11 AM
Mackay and Sydney….
Just out of curiosity….
What are the main similarities with 93/94?
What are the main differences with 93/94?
HHJUSTAFAN on 28TH AUGUST 2015 11:11 AM
Mackay and Sydney….
Just out of curiosity….
What are the main similarities with 93/94?
What are the main differences with 93/94?
Similarities
A support becoming disillusioned with decreasing quality on the park.
Differences.
There is no wee guy with a bunnet who knows how to sort things out.
HH
“We firmly believe in zonal marking”
John Kennedy
It’s not a very popular opinion and my judgement of footballers is pretty poor if you must know but does anybody else think….
VVD is not so great?
HH
Justafan. Interesting question
1 massive potential of our club fans want success and if you give it to them they will turn up in their thousand
2. Hard work has been done by Fergus and in a way by peter lawwell ( in his early years ) Easier to tap into the higher income now than was available back in 1994 Sums are huge now 40-50 million income available in last two years but CEO is a bean counter and sees easy bonus without CL
Kingon (earlier)
Indeed. Deriving solace from Southampton is embarrassing. As if it excuses our downsizing.
CORKCELT 11″00 am
I am with you , so wan’t Ronny to succeed but have my doubts, maybe too naive and his tactics like bringing on Tonev against ICT, hopeless. He might be a good coach, i don’t know, but being a good coach doesn’t make him a good manager, time will tell.
HH
“Ask not what your zonal marking can do for you, but what you can do for your zonal marking”
John Kennedy
Bournesoup. Total joke a guy who played a few games is our defence couch
Jesus wept
JUSTAFAN
I don’t care how good he has been,his attitude on Tuesday stunk the place out.
Totally unacceptable.
Btw,I resisted the temptation for a fish pun. But I still diss-ed him…
SYDNEYTIM The Bayern Munich players celebrated like they won the game at the end of that match too. I remember Michael Ballack being particularly pleased.
I fear Ronny Deila served his head on a plate with his post-match comments on Tuesday.
Let’s go back a little…Its clear that there was a concerted effort following the Hamilton defeat last October to pull together and buy-in to the managers ethos – tactically and physically. What was said internally and how the drive was led doesn’t matter but it had the desired effect.
Move forward to last Tuesday… As has been reported in the press and justifiably so, Tuesday was meant to be the moment where it all came together – Ronny himself fuelled the fire with his pre-match comments. The performance as we know was a car-crash but better Celtic teams and better Celtic managers have suffered the same fate before.
The problem now isn’t the performance, it’s the reaction in the wake of it… Whether you think his ‘scared’ comments were right or wrong (I happen to think they are right, as it goes) they were not appropriate for the public arena. The situation was then exacerbated by the contradictory comments of his captain and two of his senior players, Commons and Gordon.
Furthermore, the club’s media department then made it worse by sending John Kennedy out to take the fall for the defensive performance, in what now looks like a botched effort to deflect the attention from the fracture between the manager and his senior players. The cherry on the cake was complete by John’s ‘lost in translation’ muddle.
Trust takes years to build, seconds to destroy and forever to repair.
There board has two choices now… It either backs the manager fully in public and private, including giving Ronny a sufficient percentage from the impending van Dijk transfer fee to strengthen the starting XI or it sits back over the next few months to see what the fall-out is in on the park in the form of domestic and early Europa league results before making a call.
Bad performances we can always remedy but what we sometimes cannot repair without sacrifice(s) is the kind of self-harm that’s been committed across the club over the last 72 hours.
LOL, people anxious about the Penny Dreadful.
6 wins on the trot against rank amateurs, including two versus a perennially-pish Hibs team.
They’re a million miles off us, on the pitch and off.
Might they contest a cup-tie against us? Maybe, for around half an hour until their exhuberance faded and our class kicked in.
We’re about to be drawn against some of Europe’s elite in the second-ranking tournament. Worry about the Zombies just because some fan-nyboy hacks in the SMSM are wetting their pants? Again. And deluding the Zombie hordes. Again.
Get real. Mon the Hoops. Give us Spurs, another chance to ram it down the EPL fantasist’s throats like Mitjyland did last night.
LiviBhoy,
I’m not looking to ditch him, but augment what we have. Leigh will continue to score in the Scotland, but I’m unsure against top opposition in Europe.
Árd Macha
Defleftfoot. There is no Celtic board. There is only peter lawell If Celtic could sign one player for 1m that could make a difference but that would change the balance sheet and effect PL bonus it would not happen
Our club is only run to one KPI
Peters bonus and pension plan
If Ronny fails and PL is still there he will change it and say give the new boss time while not giving the new boss Cash and so it goes and goes on and on
Ard Macha
He scored 2 in the first leg against Malmo in his first European start of the season. Got virtually no service over in Malmo and you can draw from that he can’t score against top opposition? Derk scored in the Bernebau in a 2-2 draw with Ajax.
Let that sink in.
Griffiths is a goalscorer. No service no goals. He has scored goals at every level he has played at. In my opinion he needs a partner in 90% of our games. Play two up top at home V Malmo and it is 5 at half time.
LB
LB
Awe man they are still going on, moan moan moan, I’ve never seen so many people happy in here and all because Celtic lost,
Six months they have waited for this and they are really letting it rip, well I did predict it, so I may as well let them have their day. I’m outa here for now.
Lurking Huns GIRFUYs
Livibhoy. We stopped playing 2 up front due to tactics Mmm no we didn’t we stopped about 3 years ago as we didn’t have 2
strikegate due to bonusgate