Fine-tuning Tommy Burns methods

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Almost exactly 10 years after Celtic fans alleged Porto’s adherence to the rules was less than faithful, when they won the Uefa Cup after extra time, their creative genius, Deco, failed a drugs test a substance used to mask performance-enhancing substances were found in his blood.

Is anyone surprised?

Congratulations to the Celtic under-20 team on securing league and cup double, the fourth consecutive season Celtic youths have recorded this achievement.  John Kennedy and Stevie Frail’s operation is years ahead of what was previously known as their domestic competition.

Celtic have been fine-tuning youth development since Tommy Burns returned from Amsterdam all those years ago with new strategies, some of which are still being used.  The cream graduate as Champions League players, but Celtic are pretty much running elite-level youth development in Scotland, a fact made clear when you look at the enormous number of Celtic training academy graduates earning a living across the rest of the league.

It used to be the case that Celtic wasted young talent.  Perceived wisdom was “Go to Aberdeen or Dundee United, they’ll turn you into a player”.  The opposite is now true.
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  1. Cont.

     

     

    4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent’s argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

     

     

    Example: When trying to defeat reports by the Times of London that spy-sat images reveal an object racing towards and striking flight 800, a straw man is used. “If these exist, the public has not seen them.”

     

     

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. You imply deceit and deliberately establish an impossible and unwarranted test. It is perfectly natural that the public has not seen them, nor will they for some considerable time, if ever. To produce them would violate national security with respect to intelligence gathering capabilities and limitations, and you should know this. Why do you refuse to address the issues with such disinformation tactics (rule 4 – use a straw man)?

     

     

    5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “kooks”, “right-wing”, “liberal”, “left- wing”, “terrorists”, “conspiracy buffs”, “radicals”, “militia”, “racists”, “religious fanatics”, “sexual deviates”, and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

     

     

    Example: “You believe what you read in the Spotlight? The Publisher, Willis DeCarto, is a well-known right-wing racist. I guess we know your politics — does your Bible have a swastika on it? That certainly explains why you support this wild-eyed, right- wing conspiracy theory.”

     

     

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply guilt by association and attack truth on the basis of the messenger. The Spotlight is well known Populist media source responsible for releasing facts and stories well before mainstream media will discuss the issues through their veil of silence. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 5 – sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule)?

     

     

     

    6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning — simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent’s viewpoint.

     

     

    Example: “This stuff is garbage. Where do you conspiracy lunatics come up with this crap? I hope you all get run over by black helicopters.” Notice it even has a farewell sound to it, so it won’t seem curious if the author is never heard from again.

     

     

     

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your comments or opinions fail to offer any meaningful dialog or information, and are worthless except to pander to emotionalism, and in fact, reveal you to be emotionally insecure with these matters. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 6 – hit and run)?

  2. 7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

     

     

    Example: “With the talk-show circuit and the book deal, it looks like you can make a pretty good living spreading lies.”

     

     

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply guilt as a means of attacking the messenger or his credentials, but cowardly fail to offer any concrete evidence that this is so. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 6 – question motives)?

     

     

    8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutia” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

     

     

    “You obviously know nothing about either the politics or strategic considerations, much less the technicals of the SR-71. Incidentally, for those who might care, that sleek plane is started with a pair of souped up big-block V-8’s (originally, Buick 454 C.I.D. with dual 450 CFM Holly Carbs and a full-race Isky cams — for 850 combined BHP @ 6,500 RPM) using a dragster-style clutch with direct-drive shaft. Anyway, I can tell you with confidence that no Blackbird has ever been flown by Korean nationals have ever been trained to fly it, and have certainly never overflown the Republic of China in a SR or even launched a drone from it that flew over China. I’m not authorized to discuss if there have been overflights by American pilots.”

     

     

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your imply your own authority and expertise but fail to provide credentials, and you also fail to address issues and cite sources. Why do you refuse to address the issues by use of such disinformation tactics (rule 8 – invoke authority)?

     

     

    9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

     

     

    Example: “Nothing you say makes any sense. Your logic is idiotic. Your facts nonexistent. Better go back to the drawing board and try again.”

     

     

    Proper response: You are avoiding the issue with disinformation tactics. Your evade the issues with your own form of nonsense while others, perhaps more intelligent than you pretend to be, have no trouble with the material. Why do you refuse to address the issues

     

     

    To Be Continued….

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    Baleekz…

     

     

    Just missed BMCUWP & ACGR there ffs. :(

     

     

    TCR/Masty – Are yous still hittin’ the Belfast Bar(Cosgroves) on Sat,before the Cup Final?

     

     

    Let me know asap and i will call down and see yous before the game for a few pints & let yiz know the score with regards to getting to Belfast’s very own hate factory,and how to get back to the Henry Halls afterwards.

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    Glasgow Celtic CHAMPIONS OoooOoooOooooOo…

     

     

    Belfast Cliftontonville CHAMPIONS oOoooOOOooo…

  5. UNICEF, ‘A league table of child maltreatment deaths in rich nations’, Innocenti Report Card No.5, September 2003. UNICEF

     

     

    Innocenti Research Centre, Florence.Any part of the Innocenti Report Card may be freely reproduced using the following reference:

     

     

    UNICEF, ‘A league table of child maltreatment deaths in rich nations’, Innocenti Report Card No.5, September 2003.

     

     

    UNICEF

     

     

    “The challenge of ending child abuse is the challenge of breaking the link between adults’ problems and children’s pain.”

     

     

    Innocenti Research Centre, Florence.

     

     

    © The United Nations Children’s Fund, 2003

     

     

     

    ∎ Almost 3,500 children under the age of 15 die from maltreatment

     

    (physical abuse and neglect) every year in the industrialized world.

     

    Two children die from abuse and neglect every week in Germany and

     

    the United Kingdom, three a week in France, four a week in Japan,

     

    and 27 a week in the United States (Figure 2).

     

     

    ∎ The risk of death by maltreatment is approximately three times

     

    greater for the under-ones than for those aged 1 to 4, who in turn

     

    face double the risk of those aged 5 to 14 (Figure 8).

     

     

    ∎ A small group of countries – Spain, Greece, Italy, Ireland and

     

    Norway – appear to have an exceptionally low incidence of child

     

    maltreatment deaths (Figure 1b).

     

     

    ∎ Five nations – Belgium, the Czech Republic, New Zealand, Hungary,

     

    and France – have levels of child maltreatment deaths that are four to

     

    six times higher than the average for the leading countries.Three

     

    countries – the United States, Mexico, and Portugal – have rates that

     

    are between 10 and 15 times higher than the average for the leading

     

    countries (Figure 1b).

     

     

    ∎ Inconsistencies of classification and a lack of common definitions and

     

    research methodologies mean that little internationally comparable

     

    data exist and that the extent of child maltreatment is almost certainly

     

    under represented by the statistics.

     

     

    ∎ Child deaths from maltreatment appear to be in decline in the great

     

    majority of countries in the industrialized world (Figure 5).

     

     

    ∎ The countries with the lowest rates of child death from maltreatment

     

    also have very low rates of adult deaths from assault. Similarly, the

     

    three nations with exceptionally high levels of child deaths from

     

    maltreatment – the United States, Mexico, and Portugal – also have

     

    exceptionally high adult death rates (Figure 6).

     

     

    ∎ Poverty and stress – along with drug and alcohol abuse – appear to be

     

    the factors most closely and consistently associated with child abuse

     

    and neglect.

     

     

    ∎ Seven countries – Austria, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Iceland,

     

    Norway and Sweden – currently have laws explicitly prohibiting the

     

    physical punishment of children (Figure 13).

     

     

    These reports are freely available for download from UNICEF on the net.

     

     

    Here is a link to Innocenti Report Card 9 If you want more facts.

  6. Meant to say this too is a book that may prove of some interest to some.

     

     

    Taken from the back cover of the book – Pawns in the Game, by Barry Flynn.

     

     

    Between 1917 and 1981, twenty-two Irishmen died on hunger strike. Now, for the first time, the stories of the hunger strikers are chronicled in one book, bringing to light previously hidden histories. From the deaths on hunger strike of Thomas Ashe in 1917 and Terence MacSwiney in 1920, while imprisoned by the British government, to the death in 1981 of Michael Devine, the last Republican prisoner to die on hunger strike, Pawns in the Game teases out the tangled mesh of the politics and psychology of those who adopted this radical protest of last resort and those who allowed them to die. It is a story of fanaticism, pride and injustice, and the indifference of former comrades when power in the Dail beckoned.

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    And one for the most LEGENDARY Glasgow Irish,and for Scotland – the only place on God’s earth where the diaspora are criminalised for celebrating their heritage:

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UMACdfyZw

     

     

    3:17 – in memory of THE TEN.

     

     

    Over & out.

  8. Even the bold El Zorro was an unrepentant Fenian Bhoy.

     

     

    Borrowed from examiner.com

     

     

    South Florida’s large Irish-American and Mexican-American populations share an unexpected bit of history. The legendary Mexican “Zorro” of popular fiction, movies and television was based upon the real life and exploits of an Irishman who lived in Mexico during the 1640s and 1650s. The real “Zorro”, like his fictional namesake, was a swashbuckling swordsman and casanova, an aristocrat who socialized with the Spanish nobility who became a champion for Mexico’s oppressed native peoples. He came to Mexico as a spy for Spanish authorities, but later became a political agitator for Mexican independence. He was convicted of treason and heresy by the Spanish Inquisition and was sentenced to death. In Spain and Mexico, he was known as Don Guillén Lombardo de Guzmán, but was actually born in Wexford, Ireland as Richard Lamport around the year 1610. The truth behind the “Zorro” legend was largely forgotten, hidden for centuries in the secret archives of the Spanish Inquisition.

     

     

     

    According to Inquisition records, Richard Lamport (a/k/a Don Guillén Lombardo de Guzmán) was born into an aristocratic Irish family of ship owners, merchants and sometime privateers. Richard’s grandfather, Patrick Lamport, supplied ships in support of the Irish uprising against English rule during the Nine Years War (1594 to 1603), was eventually captured by the English and was executed upon the personal order of England’s King James I in 1617. Young Richard Lamport was educated by Jesuits in Dublin and later attended Gresham College in London. After publishing a paper critical of the English king, Richard Lamport was forced to flee England by boat and was “captured” by pirates near Saint-Melo, France. Whether he was actually a captive or willingly joined the pirate band is not known. After several years with the pirates, he “escaped” and made his way to the Irish exile community at La Coruna in Galicia, Spain.

     

     

     

    In Spain, Richard Lamport Hispanicized his name to ‘Guillén Lombardo” and attended the Colegio de Niños Nobles at Santiago. He gained the attention of Spanish officials when he converted his former pirate band to Catholicism and loyalty to the Spanish crown. Lamport then received a scholarship to study at the Colegio de Irlandeses at Salamanca. Two years later, the Duke of Olivares, chief minister of Spain’s King Philip IV, brought Lamport to the Colegio de San Lorenzo del Escorial, the elite college for officials of the Spanish royal court. His impressive educational credentials allowed William to become a member of the Spanish imperial administration.

     

     

    William fought for Spain at the battle of Nördlingen in 1634, and led soldiers at the siege of Fuenterrabía in 1638. While serving in Brussels during the 1630’s as an aide to the Spanish king’s representative, William was sketched by famed artist Anton Van Dyck. This portrait of Lamport now resides in a museum at Budapest, Hungary.

     

    Back in Madrid, William became the protégé of the Duke of Olivares, served in a variety of diplomatic and espionage missions for Olivares, and even appended the Duke’s family name of “de Guzmán” to his own, becoming “Don Guillén Lombardo de Guzmán”. William enjoyed an active social and romantic life at the Spanish royal court. During this period, William cohabitated with a noblewoman named Doña Ana de Cano y Leyva. When Ana became pregnant with his child, fleeing either the scandal or an unwanted marriage, William sailed from Cadiz on a ship bound for Mexico on April 21, 1640. He travelled on the same ship as the newly-appointed Viceroy, the Marqués de Villena. William later claimed that he travelled to Mexico on a special mission for the Duke of Olivares to spy on the political situation in Mexico City. In early 1640, the Duke had received a message from the previous Viceroy that the criollos, Mexican-born descendants of the Spanish conquerors and settlers, were on the verge of revolt against Spanish authority. William’s secret mission, he claimed, was to spy on elite criollos in Mexico City and report all rumors and evidence of treason directly to his patron in Madrid.

     

     

     

    In Mexico City, William established close relations with Don Fernando Carrillo, chief clerk of the Mexico City government. Carrillo was a prominent criollo, who had been involved in recent protests against Spanish tax and revenue policies. William rented a room in the Carillo home and tutored their son Sebastián. Through the Carrillo family, William became involved in local criollo politics, and it appears that he even became embroiled in a conspiracy against the new Viceroy Villena. William aided the overthrow of Villena by sending a long report denouncing the Viceroy to the Duke of Olivares. As a result, Olivares dispatched a secret order to Bishop Palafox to take over the government in Mexico City. Viceroy Villena was deposed in June 1642. William sought a post in Bishop-Viceroy Palafox’s new regime, but was refused.

     

     

     

    In the summer of 1642, William met a Mexican Indian named Don Ignacio, who had come to the Carrillo house seeking legal advice. William began meeting regularly with Don Ignacio and assisted him in preparing a legal brief denouncing the abuse of Indian workers in the mines at Taxco. At one of their meetings, the two consumed peyote, a psychotropic sacramental drug, in order to see into the future. Don Ignacio predicted that William would lead a rebellion against Spanish rule, and that the miners of Taxco would support him. This prediction, combined with William’s uncertain future in the turbulent politics of Mexico City, coalesced into a plan for revolution and independence for New Spain in the summer of 1642. His plan included the formation of a militia composed of Indian rebels, enslaved Africans and disgruntled criollos. After seizing control of the government, William would then implement radical social reforms. Freedom would be granted to all slaves who participated in the rebellion, and Indians would be relieved from forced labour and tributes. Mexico’s vast wealth of silver would remain in Mexico instead of being sent to Spain. Finally, he proposed a constitutional monarchy form of government, with himself or “whoever the people choose”, as Emperor and King of New Spain, who would rule in consultation with an active parliament. William believed that an independent New Spain would rise to prominence among the nations of the world.

     

     

    Rumours surrounding William’s activities landed him in trouble. In October 1642, he was jailed by the Inquisition on a charge of heresy and for “conspiring against Spain to liberate the Indians and the black slaves and set himself up as king of an independent Mexico”. He spent years in prison while the investigation dragged on, but eventually managed to escape. While successfully eluding Spanish authorities, he emerged from his hiding place at night to plaster Mexico City walls with posters mocking the Inquisition and revealing its secrets. William’s luck eventually ran out because of his inability to resist the temptations of a woman. According to a letter dated 1647 from the Bishop of Mexico to King Philip IV, “Lombardo” was found in bed with the wife of the Viceroy and was again imprisoned. He escaped again in 1651, but was soon recaptured, was jailed for a further seven years and then condemned to death. In 1659, he cheated the Inquisition one last time. Before the flames could be lit to burn him at the stake, he managed to strangle himself with the rope used to tie him.

     

     

    William Lamport’s story inspired the fictional Zorro character in 1872, when Vicente Palacio Riva, a retired Mexican general, wrote a historical romance entitled The Memoirs of an Impostor. The hero of the book is named Guillen Lombardo, who leads a double life as a nobleman named Diego de la Vega, plotting by night to overthrow Spanish rule and the Inquisition. De la Vega is betrayed in the end by his weakness for women. In 1919, Johnston McCulley, a New York journalist, reworked the tale as a serial entitled The Curse of Capistrano. Numerous pulp fiction magazines carried the various tales of Zorro between 1922 and 1959. Zorro hit the big screen in 1920, played by Douglas Fairbanks, who created a sensation in The Mark of Zorro, which remains one of the great classics of the silent era. Two decades later, Tyrone Power and Basil Rathbone starred in a successful sound remake of The Mark of Zorro. The Zorro character also appeared in Republic’s first color film, The Bold Caballero, in 1937.

  9. Morning Celts and happy Friday,

     

     

    Kitalba, I’ll give you a call later when I get into work, about 10 am our time.

     

     

    Kano 125 is finished this weekend, that was a marathon, never toasted the new year, or St Patricks day.

     

    Fell by the wayside temporarily at Easter when My son Jonathan came back from Australia, he walked in the house unannounced, we hadn’t seen him for 2 years.

     

     

    I’ve been saving £1 a day for 125 days and will add any other monies received, I’ve had a few promises of donations, Dr Whatfor has already very generously donated.

     

     

    I need to know what the plan is?

     

    eg should we combine the monies at source via CFC? Or add the money together and donate one total sum in KANO’s name?

     

     

    Off out running

     

     

    V

  10. A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

     

    01:12 on 3 May, 2013

     

     

    Bob, nice to see you are working overtime as out cultural attache in Ayrshire. When you go back to your day job at the UN see if they’re looking for a handyman with a screwdriver, and geez a shout.

     

     

    There’s been quite a lot of angst on the blog today about those who want to see the hun horde at CP and those who don’t. Where do I sit in this finely balanced situation?

     

     

    I’ll sit on the fence and say, I want them gone, dead, finished, liquidated (in the proper sense of the word), never to be seen again, never to be talked about again (except when we’re laughing and joking of the demise), I don’t want their vile support to set foot inside paradise again………….ever. When we pumped them at the end of last season and the Glorious Green Brigade foretold their future, that was good enough for me. Nirvana was reached, it only gets bettered by beating teams like Barcelona.

     

     

    I’ll probably think about this again in a few minutes and come up with a less moderate view.

     

     

    Hmmmm. No huns ever again in CP,

     

     

    ACGR says No.

     

     

    Celtic

     

    ___________________________________________________

     

     

    Or liquidised. ;))

     

     

    I miss Ed and his view of things.

     

     

    I’m now an accessory (there is an easy get out for you), a person who does everything to promote Kojo, according to the comfortable collective.

     

     

    Aye right m8. If you only knew what I am all about, you would never say that sh*t.

     

     

    Look at your own Self first before even going there.

  11. Top of the morning to you all from Fife on this Friday morning where it is still dry but there are banks of dark foreboding clouds sweeping in from the west.

     

     

    Has anyone else had problems accessing the site via Firefox?

     

     

    Hope we can do well in the sandpit at Ross County on Sunday.

     

     

    The pitch at Dingwall reminds me of the story of story of Tewfik Abdullah one of a quartet of Egyptians who played in Britain after World War II.

     

     

    The story goes that in 1921, when Abdullah made his debut for Derby County against Manchester City, he ran on to the heavily sanded pitch shouting “Where’s me camel?”

     

     

    His actual words were directed towards the player he was allocated to mark, and were in fact “Where’s Mick Hamill?” who was playing with City.

     

     

    By a coincidence the two players would end up playing for Fall River Marksmen though not at the same time. Abdullah was with the Marksmen in 1928 and Hamill in 1924.

     

     

    I’ll just get my coat ……..

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    A Big Happy Friday from a damp but bright East Kilbride and certainly not the complete washout forecast by those alleged weather experts on the BBC last night.

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    BlantyreTim..

     

     

    I See The Blantyre Soccer Academy is Running..

     

     

    The Reamonn Gormley Memorial Soccer Festival 8th-9th June 2013

     

     

    @ The Hamilton Palace sports grounds..

     

     

    A great family day out with loads of activities for the children.

     

     

    Great Idea..

     

     

    its on FB for Peeps to have a Look/Like..

     

     

    001Bhoy

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    Che – Ers the boul rocket man himself – Is it too early for a Chinese? Some crackers down Sandy Row way there is! :p

  15. 16 roads – Neil Lennon walks on water.

     

     

    I told BOBBY that I was annoyed that I couldn’t go Clubbing with your excellent self.

     

    Sods law is in my email to Bobby.

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    SoS

     

    I attended last years 5 a side tournament last year, great dsy and plenty in attendance

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    petec – I nearly fell mate.It was a privilege to have a few jars and a wee yarn with ye.I genuinely mean that.

  18. So Chelsea and Benfica are apparantly getting less than 10,000 tickets each for the final in the Amsterdam Arena that holds about 45,000.

     

     

    If ever any proof was needed that the game in Scotland, Europe and the world is run by self-serving clowns then that’s it.

     

     

    Disband the Old Boys Networks in the SFA, UEFA and FIFA and start again.

     

     

    And whoever it was that was on here last night saying he can’t wait for the Sevco Scotland works team to be fast-tracked to the SPL – you should be disbanded as well.

  19. Chuckles fined half this amount for being a racist. One Nation…

     

     

    17/03/2011

     

    A Scottish FA statement read:

     

    “The general purposes committee

     

    today imposed a fine of £5,000 on

     

    Celtic manager Neil Lennon,

     

    suspended until 30 June 2012, for

     

    remarks made following the tie

     

    between Heart of Midlothian and

     

    Celtic in the Scottish Premier

     

    League on 10 November 2010.”

  20. Jobo,

     

     

    wait until the middle of the afternoon,

     

     

    said washout will have arrived in style i think.

     

     

    michaelfishcsc

  21. J.

     

     

    FFS the wee man got an injury in school This Week and he is likely to miss the game on Sunday.

     

     

    Unbelievable, you say that so well. I am not one to Question God.?

     

     

    Next time, we are going clubbing!!!!!

     

     

    You and jimbo67 are awesome CELTIC Men, as long as we keep Jimbo off the ‘Spirits’.

     

     

    I say release the Jimbo67 because that Man has so much knowledge it is quite scarey, in a good way.

  22. Villanova says its no coincidence the the demise of Barca happens in the same season Sevco are at the lowest tier of Scottish football.

     

    ‘ I would welcome them to La Liga as they would bring great competition to the league. I would love to see Big Jig at the Nou camp’

     

    Meanwhile journalists and media outlets in Scotland demand rules be broken and fair play cast aside to have Sevco fast tracked into the SPL.

     

     

    It better be done as the future of Scottish Football, the UK economy, the EU and indeed the world depends on it!

     

     

    Meanwhile over at the Bigotdome, fat Sally was unavailable for comment as he concentrated on achieving his own personal best for demolishing steak bakes in an hour.

     

     

    His current record is 1690.

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    petec – I know mate,just got the “puter” fixed earlier the day.Don’t worry,i will be looking out for the Jimbo67 fella,to thank him as well,a real scholar & a gent he is.

     

     

    A wee choon for yerself,and ACGR – Im sippin’ what’s left of the liquid gold fs. :(

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6s5xhcBiDw

     

     

    Prepared to fight for the Green & White – Facing down the zombies,all day,everyday – till the day i die.Csc.

  24. A Ceiler Gonof Rust on

    Petec, I think in your post at 06.39 you’ve got a bit confused and mixed me up with someone else I never mentioned any of the posters in your text?

     

     

    Keep on doing the huddle:-)

     

     

     

    HH

  25. plag…. 16…..

     

    a lot of ro.ds a lot of h.te.

     

     

    FFS you are a TRUE inspiration in so many Ways.

     

     

    Next time we paint the town GREEN and you won’t be challenged for taking a beer glass UP THE GALLOWGATE.

     

     

    You know my reasons for leaving early. Sods Law.

     

    Next Time we will destroy the Nephilim. ;))

  26. Just noticed wolves are 2nd from bottom of championship. Really hope we go for kevin doyle, strog lad with great work ethnic.

     

     

    He could defo do the job sutton and hartson did for us.

     

     

    Looking forward to ross county game.. Hope to see starts for watt and mcgeouch and good run out for atajic who was on bench last week

  27. A Ceiler Gonof Rust

     

     

    08:15 on 3 May, 2013

     

     

    Petec, I think in your post at 06.39 you’ve got a bit confused and mixed me up with someone else I never mentioned any of the posters in your text?

     

     

    Keep on doing the huddle:-)

     

     

    HH

     

    _________________________________________________________________

     

     

    I’m guessing that BOBBY is shaking his head at this moment. BOBBY knows I like to take howling into the Light.

     

     

    The first sentence was the only one addressed to yo yo you. The rest waaas a really bitter rant about….

     

     

    Sorry for ma poor English and differentiating things. ;))

     

     

    Yer dodgy m8, as I am very suspicious about Everything and I reckon you just wanted me to post THIS again.

     

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOtpfansXqg

     

     

    :D

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    petec – Not a bother my friend.The peelers are really friendly in Glesga,for us tourists that is hahaha! :)

     

     

    ACGR – Wtf has you up at this time of the mornin’ chief?

     

     

    What about ye? Sorry about the day out,i left to search for FFM and got lost on the way back,couldn’t find your hotel,then it took me at least an hour to find where i was staying.As i was saying to petec earlier,i actually fell down so a did.

     

     

    I am sort of glad now though ACGR – that rocket fuel just sent me boogaloo it did.

     

     

    You were the last man standing anyway ya cant ye! I would have backed myself fs. :(

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    proudbhoy – I was thinking that myself,just as long as he’s not from Derry – the last thing the club needs at this moment in time.

     

     

    Shamrock Rovers all the way,and Cliftonville…obviously.

     

     

    Not Derry City or Linfield,or that old zombie club from Glasgow.

     

     

    Crooks.Cheats.Corrupt.