Fine-tuning Tommy Burns methods

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Almost exactly 10 years after Celtic fans alleged Porto’s adherence to the rules was less than faithful, when they won the Uefa Cup after extra time, their creative genius, Deco, failed a drugs test a substance used to mask performance-enhancing substances were found in his blood.

Is anyone surprised?

Congratulations to the Celtic under-20 team on securing league and cup double, the fourth consecutive season Celtic youths have recorded this achievement.  John Kennedy and Stevie Frail’s operation is years ahead of what was previously known as their domestic competition.

Celtic have been fine-tuning youth development since Tommy Burns returned from Amsterdam all those years ago with new strategies, some of which are still being used.  The cream graduate as Champions League players, but Celtic are pretty much running elite-level youth development in Scotland, a fact made clear when you look at the enormous number of Celtic training academy graduates earning a living across the rest of the league.

It used to be the case that Celtic wasted young talent.  Perceived wisdom was “Go to Aberdeen or Dundee United, they’ll turn you into a player”.  The opposite is now true.
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  1. “Jeff Hanneman, co-founder of Slayer, dies of liver failure following spider bite which had left him with necrotising fasciitis, a flesh-eating disease which attacks subcutaneous tissue.” The Guardian.

     

     

    Seems both posters were right earlier – CQN ahead of the news as always.

  2. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    TBB – Excellent post – The one disadvantage that our club has is this – we are afraid to,or won’t give these footballers a chance to play in the first team…and it is understandable to a certain extent.

     

     

    Why play a potentially decent young footballer in attack,when you are paying a so-called professional £20k per week as your main striker?

     

     

    I believe that Scottish football is on the up just now,and it will inevitably be to the detriment of our club.

     

     

    Dundee United in the Cup semi-final was the perfect example – they ran our highly paid footballers ragged at times.No fear there,and in my opinion,that is a direct consequence of the death of the old hun club.Teams are having a rattle at us now,and they know we try to play football.

     

     

    James McCarthy? An absolute disgrace that our club didn’t sign the Bhoy,shocking,and it still annoys me to this very day.

     

     

    16 years of age,and he had already played over 50 times for Hamilton fs.

     

     

    But sure it was only the First Division,sure?

     

     

    I don’t care what division,or what country – we have all played football here – that is remarkable for a kid to have turned out so many times in any senior league,and that is a tough,tough league.

     

     

    It doesn’t matter now anyway.

     

     

    Thanks Mogga,or PL.

  3. leftclicktic

     

     

    11:15 on 3 May, 2013

     

     

    Tbh mate most of them are sound but 1 guy blocked me for asking if it was ok if I post a video he tweeted on CQN :)

     

     

    I know what your thinking WEIRDO :)

  4. Snake Plissken on

    What the Daily Rubbish fails to understand is the money available to German football in relation to Scottish. They are the largest country in Europe with TV deals and numbers of people with the capability to fill huge stadia which Scotland can only dream of.

     

     

    Has anyone asked Bayern why they bailed out Dortmund or is it enough to assert a pro-Sevco piece of garbage and pass it off as reality?

     

     

    I think I just answered my own question.

     

     

    What they also fail to mention is that Bayern go out practically every other season and buy everybody good in the Bundesliga from all their competition to retain their top team status spreading the wealth around everywhere as they just have with one of Dortmund’s top players.

  5. leftclicktic

     

     

    These users on twitter should take it as a compliment we follow them to get good info, if they don’t want it posted anywhere else then they should tell all users in advance.

  6. 16 roads – neil lennon walks on water.

     

     

    10:33 on 3 May, 2013

     

    proudbhoy – I am terribly sorry,it was not my intention to argue with or offend anyone,especially fellow Celtic supporters.

     

     

    All that i said was this – corruption is everywhere in soccer/football,and that Derry City FC is up there with the old Glasgow club,and that Huckleberry Finn club that is Linfield FC,in terms of their cheating ways and scheming.

     

     

    With regards to Shamrock Rovers of South Dublin,i have visited that splendid wee stadium on occasion,supporting Cliftonville…and both sets of fans got on like a house on fire.

     

     

    Also – there are Celtic supporters on this blog,whom live in that Derry place,that would never set foot in that midden that yous call a football ground.

     

     

    Furthermore – and no dis-respect to anybody,Cliftonville fans were among the worst to visit that hovel eh? Are you for real?

     

     

    They should have brought along with them a couple of bulldozers & jcb’s and levelled the thing.

     

     

    Apologies for the rant.

     

     

     

     

    That post serious ?

     

     

    Cliftonville i have no real experiance off them , as i said it was me da who made the comment and he would have not said it without reason. hes been brandywell regular all his life.

     

     

    Shamrock rovers no doubt have decent fans as i know a couple but mainly esp there travelling support are like huns in hoops. Come to brandywell and call us brits, queen lovers , londonderry blah blah blah and also like to get rid of their change in our difection.

     

     

    Also at an away game in dublin they attacked a small crowd of us in bar starting by hiting young lad coming back from toilet and then throwing pint glasses in our direction. Bunch of thugs who thrieve to be english type hooligans.

     

     

    Bulldoze brandywell– do you work at the IFA or FAI cause they would be in favour of your idea. Disgraceful comment about a club who was kicked outta a bigoted league and fought hard to be in league of ireland and also not have peelers inside our stadium.

     

     

    Red army ✊

  7. hen1rik

     

     

    The inability to change the habits of a lifetime, tainted club, crooked environment, shady characters all around like sharks in a goldfish bowl..

  8. Laughable puff-piece from Micheal Rant ……………

     

     

     

    “Gosh Goffy just how good wur you? And what guid ranjurs pals ye have!”

  9. TBB @1051

     

     

    Largely tend to agree with your appraisal of the Youth set-up at Celtic.

     

     

    It is, indeed, all very well having youth teams winning trophies both at home and abroad, but the end objective is to produce players for the first team – players who can also compete against the very best in the CL. Not an easy task.

     

     

    Celtic, undoubtedly, have a good set-up and while the majority of the youth players are Scottish born, the club has spread its net further afield in the last few years – mainly in Ireland where up until a few years ago the scouting network there was almost non-existent.

     

     

    A boy can show tremendous potential at the age of 15, but how many actually make it all the way? Very few, sadly.

     

     

    As you pointed out there are dozens(?) of bhoys who came through the ranks at Celtic who are currently playing for clubs in the lower leagues in Scotland and England, and also some plying their trade with clubs in the SPL and EPL. If they were good enough, some of them would still be at CP – and I am not trying to be disrespectful to anyone here.

     

     

    How many of the all-conquering under20 side will make it? I have no idea, but I hope that several of them do.

     

     

    HH!!

  10. 16 roads

     

     

    Also – there are Celtic supporters on this blog,whom live in that Derry place,that would never set foot in that midden that yous call a football ground.

     

     

    Dunno what you mean by that derry place either. Sounds like you have little or no respect for derry.

  11. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    Plus James McCarthy is Irish.

     

     

    If i had Desmond’s money,i would bring them all back to Celtic.

     

     

    Wee McGeady also,and yer wee man McClean from Sunderland.

     

     

    Who says that there are no Celtic supporters playing football at the top level?

     

     

    Bring back Artur Boruc as well,sure,why not?

     

     

    They are sure to give the team a wee bit of dig.

  12. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

        HEARTS are poised to AVOID SPL relegation this season — even if they enter administration before the end of May.

     

     

    The cash worries of Vladimir Romanov got worse yesterday as UKIO Bankas were declared bankrupt in a Kaunas court.

     

    That means the administrators for the Bank of Lithuania have the power to call in £15million debt owed by the Tynecastle club.

     

     

    By doing so immediately they would trigger a 17-point deduction that would instantly put Hearts six points behind current bottom club Dundee.

     

    However, SunSport understands that’s unlikely to happen while the case is still being debated in the Lithuanian courts.

     

    Any party wishing to appeal against the decision of the Kaunas court has ten days to do so.

     

     

    Last night it emerged the transfer of the league’s golden share between the promoted and relegated sides will take place on May 20 — NOT June 1 as has traditionally been the case before.

     

    That means Hearts will remain an SPL club next season provided they do not enter administration in the next three weeks.

     

     

    Such an outcome looks increasingly likely with the process of sorting out UKIO’s affairs expected to take several weeks.

     

    That would lead to Hearts instead kicking off the 2013/14 SPL season with a points deduction if they were to enter administration during the close season.

     

     

    Jambos manager Gary Locke has revealed he was trained to deal with administration when he sat his SFA coaching badge earlier this year.

     

    He said: “I did my Pro Licence with Jim Fleeting and Donald Park and to be fair to them they covered absolutely everything, including administration.

     

    “On the course they put you through everything you might have to deal with as a manager.

     

     

    “It covers the finance side as much as the coaching and deals with things people don’t see.

     

    “It’s a learning process for everyone, especially me, but I can only concentrate on the football.

     

    “It might be turmoil off the park, I don’t know, but it’s not turmoil on the training pitch.

     

     

    “My sole focus is on the football, other questions are for the directors.

     

    “I’m here as first-team manager and all I can concentrate on is football.

     

    “What happens off the pitch is in the hands of the directors. I’m trying to deal with the players and getting on with the job.”

  13. leftclicktic on

    Postman just deliverd a postcard from New Zealand….

     

    For St Patricks day :))

  14. Breaking news….Peter Lawwell has just asked season ticket holders to forego the £100 discount so we can help our bestest friends out of the trouble they`re `currant`ly in.

     

    Does anybody think I may have made that up?

  15. TwoMacaroons on

    Forget the fact it is newco rangers, why the hell would anyone bail out a club who has proven time and time again it does not repay its debts. A club that no one, not even it’s own fans, knows who actually owns it. A club who’s directors pay themselves vast salaries and players vast wages for the division they’re in, without a hint of an apology to the 200+ creditors it left out of pocket while they did’walk away’ from the debt.

     

    Ffs tell me again daily record where does that benefit ANYONE apart from Newco?

  16. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    PROUDBHOY

     

     

    I thought 16 ROADS was just winding you up,poking you with a stick.

     

     

    Bit of city rivalry…..

  17. TBB @ 10.51

     

     

    I agree with most of your views about the youth development at Celtic, but what has changed over just the last couple of years or so is the depth and intensity of the work being done on/with the youths at Lennoxtown, including some very young kids.

     

     

    For example, now the best of the best at ages 14/15 have to attend school at St. Ninian’s, Kirkintilloch. This means, for example, kids from East Kilbride leaving the town about 6.30 am. (a major input from parents!?) in time to get to Lennoxtown for early morning training and breakfast before going to school at 9am. After school there is homework time at Lennoxtown, then light dinner folowed by another training session before arriving home in east Kilbride around 9/10pm. This is the pattern Monday – Friday!

     

     

    Now that is a lot of hours being put in by the club, coaches, players, parents and is quite different to what was going on even under Tommy Burns. The actual results of this approach will not be seen for another few years yet, but as far as I am aware from my contacts in and around Lennoxtown, and in other areas of youth football in Scotland, Celtic are way, way ahead of any other organisation in Scotland, including the previously vaunted stuff being punted by the SFA.

  18. leftclicktic

     

    Postman just deliverd a postcard from New Zealand….

     

    For St Patricks day :))

     

    __________________________

     

     

    Better go out tonight to celebrate then :)

  19. !!Bada Bing!! on

    Any money made from the beggars Legneds game will be used on hotels and a free bar.Where did Challs put the DU cup tie money ?

  20. 50 shades of green on

    Would love to see the crowd at the next home game after wee bailed them out.

     

     

    Counting with one hand comes to mind.

     

     

    We dont call it the daily retard for nothing folks.

  21. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    TALLYBHOY

     

     

    Had a wee evening in the company of two of yer fellow Tims fae Troon

     

     

    I reckon you’ll enjoy yer night at The Marahani.

     

     

    MICKTT is a belter as well,and likely to join you.

     

     

    He knows about the trains always leaving Troon early……

  22. Morning all.

     

     

    Miserable weather here today. Cold, wet and windy. Back to the usual, of course.

     

     

    Are we back to the usual with regard to the team who used to play in Govan? Is thon phoenix bit the dust yet?

  23. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    proudbhoy – Derry City is one mile from the border.There is one,and only one Gaelic club in the said “City” – and ye wonder why the Shamrock call yous Brits for?

     

     

    I love County Derry,with all my heart.

     

     

    Are ye familiar with that old Christy Moore song yerself? – “I wish i was back home in Derry!”

     

     

    Written by a Belfast man,but a very poignant song,none the less.

  24. PROUDBHOY

     

     

    I thought 16 ROADS was just winding you up,poking you with a stick.

     

     

    Bit of city rivalry…..

     

     

     

     

    Didnt really sound like it.. I stand by what i said regardless.

     

     

    Hes spot on about james mccarthy thou.. Annoys me every time i see him play for wigan in front of half empty stadium.

     

     

    Glad thou hes playing for ireland.

  25. 16 roads – neil lennon walks on water.

     

     

    11:44 on 3 May, 2013

     

    proudbhoy – Derry City is one mile from the border.There is one,and only one Gaelic club in the said “City” – and ye wonder why the Shamrock call yous Brits for?

     

     

    I love County Derry,with all my heart.

     

     

    Are ye familiar with that old Christy Moore song yerself? – “I wish i was back home in Derry!”

     

     

    Written by a Belfast man,but a very poignant song,none the less.

     

     

     

     

    3 gaelic clubs. Creggan, top the hill and steelstown.

     

     

    Im more than familiar with the lilywhite legend.

     

     

    Shramrocks opinion isn’t cared about much.

  26. 50 shades of green on

    emeraldbee\o/ proud to be an internet bampot

     

    11:37 on 3 May, 2013

     

     

    For example, now the best of the best at ages 14/15 have to attend school at St. Ninian’s, Kirkintilloch. This means, for example, kids from East Kilbride leaving the town about 6.30 am. (a major input from parents!?) in time to get to Lennoxtown for early morning training and breakfast before going to school at 9am. After school there is homework time at Lennoxtown, then light dinner folowed by another training session before arriving home in east Kilbride around 9/10pm. This is the pattern Monday – Friday!

     

     

    Funny you should mention that mate . My nephew From Ek is with the pro youths at lennoxtown( under 12’s).and i know that his parents are worried about the effect it would have on thier

     

    lives when he reaches that stage. Do you know if schooling at St Ninians is compulsary or optional ?

  27. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    TBB- good post on Celtic’s record in youth development. I agree with much of what you say.

     

     

    With the League won we should be playing the likes of young Fraser at centrehalf instead of Efe, who has not recovered his form since he came back from the ACN.

  28. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on

    Six years since Madeleine McCann went missing.

     

     

    Hope springs eternal.

  29. Doctor Whatfor on

    DBBIA

     

     

    I think that Fraser is recovering from a pretty serious leg injury.

  30. Marrakesh Express on

    I had to play back the SSB guff from last night, such was the response it got on here. It really was god awful listening. I gave it 15 mins and apart from Lawrie fae Denistoun proving he’s been brainwashed, the pundits DL and Guidi are now beyond deluded.

     

     

    Guidi..’Celtic will be playing in from of 20 odd, maybe 28/29 thousand next season’

     

    ..no we wont, we’ll still sell 40k books, or more.

     

     

    DL…’Celtic closing part of a stand will be ringing alarm bells’

     

    .all that means is for domestic games the crowd will be less scattered around the stadium, and anyway Celtic will still be in the top 20 highest European attendances.

     

     

    Both..’Rangers must be brought back to the spl asap’.

     

    ..No matter how many crimes they carried out?

  31. 16 roads - Neil Lennon walks on water. on

    proudbhoy – And sure wee James McClean is from Derry himself,is he not? And Gibson and Duffy at Everton? Good Celtic Bhoys too.

     

     

    Could anyone tell me the score with that lad Seamus Coleman? – Willie McStay recommended the said footballer to his friend D Moyes,nothing wrong with that i hear you say – except for one thing – McStay was on the wage roll at Celtic FC at the time,i am almost certain about that fact.Please correct me if i am wrong.There was a Sligo connection there.

     

     

    Proudbhoy,Bobby M,KevJ. Debate is good.

     

     

    Slan.