Forster proves a wiser choice last year than Sandomierski

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News that Fraser Forster has signed a long term contract with Celtic, who will pay Newcastle United £2m for his services, adds some welcome stability ahead of the Champions League qualifiers.  Buying a new, first-choice, keeper is fraught with the kind of difficulties Neil Lennon would rather avoid.

Last summer we looked at Croatian international Stipe Pletikosa, who performed at the European Championships, but he failed to impress during his trial period at Celtic, including a poor performance against Wolves at Celtic Park.

Last year we also looked at Polish cap, Gregorz Sandomierski, who subsequently went to Belgian club racing Genk for €3m, but he failed to make a competitive appearance for Genk and was shipped back to Poland on loan. By comparison, Forster, who turned 24 on St Patrick’s Day, cemented his place with the champions.

Last year Celtic concluded a provisional deal with Newcastle to sign Fraser on a permanent deal this summer but although player and club were both keen to do business, negotiations took until the end of the players’ summer break, perhaps reflecting a tightening of Celtic’s finances ahead of what could be a period of financial uncertainty in the Scottish game.

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  1. When the dead co aint allowed into the SPL,

     

    i hope we still boycott those who vote to let them in,

     

    Ross County may find themselves with no Celtic fans at

     

    their ground next season,as for Killie we should never have taken tickets from them after they let the hordes in when they won the league down there

  2. O.G Rafferty

     

     

    LoL, it’s ok mate regarding Thompson get it got it only took me 5 minutes.

  3. gordybhoy64 on 2 July, 2012 at 23:56 said:

     

    When the dead co aint allowed into the SPL,

     

    i hope we still boycott those who vote to let them in,

     

    Ross County may find themselves with no Celtic fans at

     

    their ground next season,as for Killie we should never have taken tickets from them after they let the hordes in when they won the league down there

     

     

    Agreed matey we should never enter that stadium again.

  4. Ceaser67 on 3 July, 2012 at 00:01 said:

     

    hen1rik

     

     

    Murdochauldand hay

     

     

    Nowt ther!!

     

     

    share on F’book or Twitter

     

     

     

    If your on twitter matey goto the user who tweeted it, packiebonnarcsc.

  5. O G Rafferty,

     

    i will press you no more,

     

    just sit back and wait for the bedlam ;-))

  6. thebhoyfromoz on

    Thanks for all the advice about cycling around Arran. Used to think ridding Scotland of huns would be the single thing that would immeasurably improve the country, would like to include midges to that. Both blood sucking parasites.

  7. I had a look at the twitter page,

     

    3 chairmen in secret talks,

     

    reporter, Jabba,says it all for me,

  8. He’s a sad desperate hun, how this moron keeps his job is beyond me.

     

     

    No wonder that paper is losing customers.

  9. @bbcjimspence: East Fife say Newco must Follow Normal application route into third tier of SFL

  10. Lads goodnight this stuff is getting on my nerves.

     

     

    Do the decent thing and boot them out.

  11. The Honest Cover-up on

    hen1rik on 3 July, 2012 at 00:09 said

     

     

    An absolute reptile. Even if it’s true, these 3 Chairmen can have all the “secret talks” they like. It still won’t change the fact they need another 5 votes and 6 six have already said no. It’s Div1 entry we need to worry about. Jim Spence tweeting East Fife saying Div3 entry only.

  12. Off the Record ! as in, I don't read the Daily Record because of its sh*t journalists on

    The Honest Cover up

     

     

    I read it that East Fife were saying, take your chances with the other applicants !

  13. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on

    MWD

     

     

    agree defensive partnership needs to be sorted. Ideally a new player but I think we have players we can work on within existing group. Mulgrew and Rogne certainly good enough for SPL .. For Europe probably need something a bit better.

     

    Fraser is growing in to a Mhan and nothing breeds confidence like winning – plenty of that next season in the SPL to look forward to..

     

     

    HH

     

    CB

  14. CultsBhoy loves being 1st forever & ever on

    I’d love Newco in SPL… 9-0 against Aberdeen would look like a decent result. Every game they play would be a humiliation.

     

     

    But It’s not going to happen. Love to draw them in a cup…major probability.. What are the odds?

  15. There will definitely no Celtic fans at Ross County’s ground this coming season as they are playing in Inverness.

     

     

    Celtic are the biggest losers in all this. Cheated for years out of titles and trophys now will find the financial fall out very difficult.

     

     

    Next season will be no problem for Celtic on and off the field. Fans have got what they want no newco. Season tickets will be bought and we’ll average 50,000 in the SPL.

     

     

    If a challenger from the remaining clubs doesn’t emerge and with the downsizing going on at Hearts this is very unlikely Celtic will win league by 30 points.

     

     

    How many will buy season tickets for the following season?

     

     

    Me always and many thousands like me but many others will not.

     

     

    Sporting integrity is priceless but in Scotland it will be a very high price.

  16. Auld Neil Lennon heid on

    A slight variation on a post from earlier today.

     

     

    See the three clubs that are in danger of going belly up, according to latest DR scaremongering would the projected £16M loss from RangersIA being covered prevent that fate if £16M could be found? How is that £16M, peanuts in European football terms,made up?

     

     

    I seriously doubt if a proper cost/benefit analysis has been carried out to back the £16M cost to Scottish Football claim. but there really should be a spreadsheet with the detail on it that totals £16M.

     

     

    It should be based on knowledge of contracts, sensible assumptions about losses and gains from Rangers absence and informed guesses based on that to show net cash flow over the next say five years.

     

     

    Now if I had something like that with a figure in that ballpark and I knew I could do nothing to prevent the cause of the loss from happening, indeed doing something would make matters worse over 10 years, I would go to UEFA with the reasoned costings and say two things.

     

     

    1. Distribution of UEFA CL money to a country’s title winners only, created the conditions in Scotland that were a contributing factor in Rangers’ ruin and ruin of the Scottish game. It happens here because in a two horse race the club winning more than three titles in a row risked going so far ahead of its competitor from the rewards the chasing club would never catch up and would fade.

     

     

    This is exactly the position Rangers found themselves in when Walter Smith arrived in Jan 2007 and such was their plight they took the decision to spend in 2007/08 to build the team that won the next three titles to bring in essential CL income and deny it to Celtic..

     

     

    Had they decided to use the £29M spent in 2007/08 to pay the big tax bill which had landed before 2008’s spend of £19M, they would not be ruined now, but the unbalanced way CL money is distributed is a causing factor and is always going to ruin leagues with only two title competitors. Thus whilst not responsible for Rangers decisions in 2007/08 UEFA, even though under pressure from big ECA clubs, were responsible fto a degree for creating the adverse conditions in which such a ruinous decision was made by Rangers in 2008 and so must shoulder a bit of the responsibility to put matters right for Scottish football by taking steps to ensure its integrity is recovered.

     

     

    2. Scottish Football supporters have spoken, they demand sporting integrity takes precedence over commercial considerations. This is exactly what Mr Platini asked for at Christmas

     

     

    http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/?p=8237

     

     

    but it is going to cost us £16M this coming year and £xM for a couple more until the ripples subside. We think our game now needs a rescue and recovery plan until it gets back on its feet.

     

     

    You can see that eventually it will recover and that if necessary we can repay any rescue funding from future UEFA revenue earned by Scottish clubs or the national team participating at least in WC or EC qualifying rounds. We will also be reviewing and strengthening our licensing process and other rules to prevent a recurrence.

     

     

    Will you help?

     

     

    This is a no brainer and if if the SFA/SPL and some of the media stopped playing Chicken Little and looked at all the contributing factors then a sensible way forward could be found.

     

     

    I despair at the stupidity of those at the helm of the Titanic that is Scottish Football, its as if they like icebergs.

  17. thomthethim CQN (genuine) Badge Wearer on

    Before I head for the cot, is there anyone on here who feel that if justice and integrity doesn’t prevail re Them, that Celtic are faced with two options.

     

     

    Derry City or Belfast Celtic.

     

     

    Put it another way.

     

     

    How far are we, as a collective, be prepared to compromise?

     

     

    I will check back in the morning for any serious responses.

     

     

    Please think about it.

  18. consider this chap John Alexander, Chairman of ClydeFC…

     

    (flick to his photo and bio)

     

    http://www.clearlyso.com/sbc-11-speakers.html#johnalexander

     

     

    see him here too at last year’s SFA agm (lookin a bit older)

     

    http://s1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff421/TopCorner1/SFA%20AGM%20-%20070611/?action=view&current=36-ClydeFC.jpg

     

     

    finally, consider the statement released recently by ClydeFC

     

    http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/06/30/4134/

     

     

    this fella appears to be quite clever – i hope he is a good lad (don’t know the guy at all !) and if so, he should step up and start to drive the agenda at this week’s meetings…there are too many clowns in control so often…maybe this fella could do a turn

     

     

    ah’ll ask him of i see him the morra at hampden

     

    (no sure why he’d employ JD tho – mibbe cos he’s got decent football experience, is available and doesn’t cost too much)

     

     

    newco to div3 CSC

  19. been sitting on my hands with this leader for last 10hrs or so

     

     

    but i have to inteject and disagree with Paul67

     

     

    this indeed has turned out to be a better choice, but in many cases in our team, the cheaper choice has turned out to be the more expensive choice for us

     

    eg Murphy, numerous poor cheap center halfs kelvin wilson names pops u, a person whos record when palying is truely awefull

     

     

    the non signing of the polish goalie is indeed a stroke of luck, but was not down to any wise choice, more in the form of us not wanting to spend money

     

    i have it on good authority that Neil Lennon was peeved off with PL and his penny pinching last year and that info was backed up with the press conference when Neil said he was not happy when we did not secure Goalie

     

     

    Paul we have complained about laptop loyal in the past, but to me this looks like Peter Lawell spin and nothing to do with welcoming Frazer back as a Full time employee

     

     

    away before i get abused

     

     

    ST

  20. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    WeeFra and 67HEAVEN from earlier

     

     

    We had no problem signing Dylan Mc Geough from them.

  21. ST

     

     

    Hope you don’t take it as abuse because I am happy to agree that Daryl Murphy and Kelvin Wilson have, thus far, been wastes of money but…….cheap options????

     

     

    Daryl’s fee was quoted at around £1.5m by the BBC and Mo Bangura at £2m. Both are serious fees before we add their wages to the package but neither has yet delivered.

     

     

    Kelvin Wilson, too, despite being a Bosman, is unlikely to have been cheap, because he will have been recompensed for being a “contract rebel”in his final year at Forest. It is quite possible that, with a lower EPL level of salary, he could have ended up costing us more than either Bangura or Murphy.

     

     

    We should judge players on the impact they made not the transfer fees they command. A “flash the cash” policy leads to the madness of Ibrox level spending and purchases like Martin Hayes and Stuart Slater.

     

     

    Murphy, Wilson, and Bangura have to be judged as failures (again, so far) because they have added little to Celtic. Efrain Juarez and Rasmussen are also adjudged failures though they both cost significant fees.

     

     

    Bosmans like Matthews and Ledley have been successes, though not cheap. Cheap buys like Commons are also successes, as are middling buys like Wanyama, Forster and Ki. Fraser may well be the most we have ever spent on a keeper.

     

     

    We are not returning to the expenditure of early 2000 nor even of a Scott Brown level. I hope we can sell one of our surplus midfielders in order to strengthen Centre back and Striker departments but we do not need a lot to keep us ticking over and improving

  22. Rascar Capac on

    Someone mentioned St Mirren as a club likely to go bust.

     

     

    I don’t know much about them, but I thought they wangled a brand new stadium plus cash in the bank by selling to a supermarket?

     

     

    Also maybe a club who might gain a few fans with the demise of the govan gobsters.

  23. See,this is what we get when we rile the bloated fantasist Jabba,when we slag his puerile puff pieces about his favourite wee jaffas. There he goes,dragging his yards of flab down to The Dolly Wreckage,where he ‘composes’ his latest confabulation based on some drunken gossip he picked up off a cleaner at Hampden who overheard some banter about some wheeze Ogilvie might be dreaming up.

     

    This is the calibre of potty traynor’s exclusive.

     

    Garbage of the fishiest kind. A donkey could come up with similar,and maybe he did.

     

    HH !