We have had games which were hugely important to the club, and to our new manager, some which were ‘must win’ games, which were ultimately lost, but tomorrow’s League Cup tie against Hearts is a must win game for different reasons.
A year ago we lost in this competition to one of the worst teams to win at Celtic Park in the last half century, possibly longer, but thus Hearts side are a Premiership team in all but name and come with the weight of their history behind them to fell Scottish football’s last superpower.
I’ve seen Hearts win at Celtic Park before, there is one particular painful memory as they taunted us while drawing, but Ronny and his new recruits should know, this game ranks above all league matches in order of importance.
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Can’t understand the stick that John Collins is getting on here are they Celtic supporters The Labour party are finished in Scotland There needs to be a new Socialist Party formed
Anyone know what’s wrong with Wakasu, will we see him again soon or has retired to the land of the lame and the lazy. Samaras, Ledley and Forrest I imagine Kris and Stokesy are missing these guys badly.
ernie lynch
11:44 on
24 September, 2014
lionroars67
11:37 on 24 September, 2014
It’s called electioneering.
Oh you mean Ed and Andy are lying about the NHS requiring being saved
The most important piece of social policy that the Labour party has introduced in its history, the ole labour party were rightly very proud of the NHS, it is sad to see New Labour just using it for electioneering purposes now, no wonder it needs saved………..
Geordie Munro
A very fair point but I believe the principle remains the same. The difference in pressure however is magnified one hundred fold compared with RD’s previous club.Only certain players can cope at a club like Celtic and the sooner RD works out which is which the better.
Def aff oot, cracking day out there in the real world
GEORDIEMUNRO
Mistake in the first part. The other,about fair play,is ALWAYS gonna be part of me.
Fortunately I had made my stance sufficiently clear that my error could be pointed out!
Can’t believe the NHS issues raising it’s head again.
I noted that Andy Burnham had issues with NHS England and privatisation prior to referendum. Nae sayers weren’t interested in looking as the agenda was set for them and googling or reviewing links would have been too much for their appetite. Now the Red Coats are attempting to gain new Red Coat members by scaremongering that the NHS is not safe when last week in Scotland it was the Independence guys scaremongering because the Red Coats stated the NHS was 100% safe. Go figure! But if you had a brain cell worthy of some research or want to look at the detail…
£25 Billion austerity turns into a upturn even in thos figures coming our way. Job losesd in the civil service coming our way.
You get what you frigin well voted for and hell mend you all that voted NO. Whatever comes your way is deserved. 100% deserved. However badly affected you are I will not shed a tear for you. I will however sympathise with every single person who voted YES who is affected by the Tsunami of Red Coat, Tory Economic love bombs that will see more and more of our countries innocent people forced into poverty. I hold each and every No voter responsible to a personal level for what is coming. Hope you can sleep at night.
MWD said AYE
Can’t understand the stick the Labour Party is getting on here. John Collins is finished in Scotland. There needs to be a new John Collins formed.
Anyway, I see we are still re-fighting Culloden 2014 with the benefit of “If only…” thinking. Eventually there will be an appetite for examining not why your opponents won but why you lost the argument. Then there might be a time for more unity on social democratic principles.
Meanwhile, we have the Hearts tie. One of the selling points for Ronny Deila was that NFL had “failed” Celtic in the cup competitions and the Board wanted Ronny to give more priority to them. It was probably a shameful lie and a dig at Neil but we will see tonight.
I find it strange that anyone would want to stake their own or, in this case, someone else’s reputation, on the vagaries of cup competition.
BMCUW
I Iike you mhate.
For a moment there I liked you even more.
Now I just like you again!
;-)
But your public affirmation of my 100% correctness was as wise a line as I’ve ever seen on CQN.
Livibhoy
;-)
HH jamesgang
Late at night down here and want to get to bed as early rise for the Hearts game in the morning so have been scrolling quickly through. Enjoyed the reminisces of John Divers who I saw play regularly in early 60’s. I recall that diving header J67 described. Against Hibs December 1961. It was indeed a wet wintry day so for the first time I went into the Jungle for shelter. Normally we stood at the uncovered Rangers End. Of course the Jungle was not the place it became in later years. At the time the hard core fans ( and the singers) were in the Celtic End. It would be a few years yet before singing was heard regularly in the Jungle.
The game was probably typical of the time. Although we had no trophy success before Big Jock there were some exciting games and in those days teams did not adopt the same defensive tactics as now. In that game Hibs led 2-1 at half time before Celtic went ahead 3-2. Hibs equalized and 2 minutes later came the winner with that diving header from JD following a cross from the right wing. That goal completed his hat trick with Big Yogi getting the other goal. The pitch was cut up due to the rain and the ball would have been heavier than nowadays so it was some goal. JD was a regular in that era and I think he may have played in every league game that season. RIP
Totally agree, If Ronny is not to make it then neither does John, they work as a team and achieve or fail as a team, you cannot have one benefiting from the others failures.
Kittoch
Did Sherlock Holmes choose Dr Watson, or were they introduced by Mrs Hudson, the housekeeper, and decide to share 221B Baker Street?
…and subsequently become the British Empire’s most formidable crime fighting duo?
HH!!
“Only certain players can cope at a club like Celtic and the sooner RD works out which is which the better”
Charlie72
Abso-blooming-lutely.
But this can take a little more time than some are giving him.
timbhoy2. I dont understand it myself why is John Collins getting stick on CQN ? Why are posters doubting his motives to help Rony ? I cant see any reason for it what so ever. H.H.
For years all the political parties have attempted to ‘fix’ the NHS, at some considerable cost to the taxpayer and some considerable aggravation to the people who use it , and work in it.
The basic problem is that it is f###ed up beyond repair; what it really needs is for a politician to state that the time has come to start again from scratch; to find someone of the calibre of William Beveridge and hand him a clean slate to start from.
The NHS has served us for many years but now needs to be consigned to history, with our heartfelt gratitude.
Livibhoy
I reckon you spoke to Mark Burchill.
Psychic csc
setting free the bears for res. 12 –
Can’t understand the stick the Labour Party is getting on here. John Collins is finished in Scotland. There needs to be a new John Collins formed.
:) (thumbsup)
twists n turns
You may well be right.
LB
SFTB
I would put it a little differently: The argument wasn’t lost, it just wasn’t made well enough.
Watched a game in the Dutch league the other night between top clubs Feyenoord and Ajax and the quality of the football was dire, neither team could put more than a couple of passes together. Dreadful stuff.
timescales? i would like ernie lynch to give us a timescale as to when he is gonna shut the f%#k up about nats, the referendum and his pro labour rhetoric.
ernie the no voters won, get over it
Tallybhoy
Conan Doyle must have been on something when he wrote that stuff.
HH
dontbrattbakkinanger @ 12.02
Am I right in thinking that you’re a recently retired medic?
If so, would love to hear you views in person over a wee pint some say.
Your analysis is succinct, hard to disagree with and brutal.
BedsideMannerCSC!!!
HH jamesgang
DBBIA
The simple solution to the NHS problem – that the working population can’t afford to provide for so many people who no longer contribute to the cost of it – is simply to relocate Bearsden and Milngavie to the Calton.
Thanks for the comeback, Philvis, when you said: ‘I want to hit the civil service with a big stick. We give the DWP £175 billion pounds every year to disburse to the poorer members of our society, but they persistently fail to do their jobs effectively.’
Of course we’ll always have the poor with us.
That wasn’t the point I was trying to make: rather I was trying to suggest that – due to the fabulous prosperity of our nation – our ‘poor’ can (if they have the nous and self-control) often enjoy material advantages which were beyond working people only a generation or so ago. And we kind of need to get used to this, since – in a civilised and wealthy nation – there is no way that we can simply drive people to destitution.
For that’s what will happen.
Many of the poor in our country, are not smart, are not motivated, can lack self-discipline; were not born to well-off or motivated parents, lack suitable role models; some have disabilities, others have what you or I would probably describe as chaotic lifestyles.
Many of these good people may even be ‘unemployable’.
That’s why I ‘joked’ about the good old days, when wars and epidemics would have helped us deal with this kind of awkward truth.
He did know a thing or two, ol’ J.C.
If he were around today – and posted on CQN – what do you think he would say about the method of administering ‘sanctions’ to those on benefits, or government policies such as the ‘spare room subsidy’[sic], or the big business benefit scroungers who cream in millions by way of government subsidy and tax reliefs or avoidance measures like off-shore headquarters?
Do you think he would blame the tax collectors and civil servants?
My point remains: there will always be a rump of people who either cannot or will not hold down a job.
What to do … ?
FF
Are any of the three right backs in the 1st
team squad fit yet ?
Algarvecsc
dbbia
Do you speak from an English perspective on the NHS or Scottish? I’m someone who has worked front line for now 35 yrs in the NHS, why do you think it needs this draconian action.
Dontbrattbakkinanger – you may be right in your observation but I would wager that it’s impossible to somehow start again with a clean slate. It would be like trying to rebuild a new Underground network in London rather than repairing and maintaining the existing one. The cost would be beyond comprehension.
Was just about to say Livibhoy would never reveal his source…..not even on pain of death or getting his feet tickled while watching Coisty judging the great British steak bake off and then………..
He spills!!!!!
;-)
HH jamesgang
Gordon j…so youre saying it was the SNP who said the part about overestimating / underplaying YES..cool…only thing is…i have never voted SNP but i did vote YES and i agree with tictaewin…does that make me a hypocrite or ahalf hypocrite or a man with his own opinion…
I see Ed forgot to mention the deficit in his big speech yesterday. He just forgot, easy mistake and could happen to anyone really. I forget things all the time. The deficit? pah! not all that important anyway. Bring on the football.
kevjungle – murdo macleod’s title winning boots 4-2 legend
09:33 on 24 September, 2014
Off oot tae get rid of yon witches
fae under ma bed, bye.
…………
Strange that,
I was off oot to get rid of yin stitches (staples)
Fae inside my head :>)
Hx2
TBB
Better still, relocate Calton to Bearsden/ Milngavie!
JAMESGANG
My sole excuse is that I was attempting to multitask.
Drink,type,smoke,drink.
They’re the easy bits.
I left out thinking. Knob.
DBBIA
The basic problem is that it is f###ed up beyond repair; what it really needs is for a politician to state that the time has come to start again from scratch; to find someone of the calibre of William Beveridge
——
In most surveys people when asked about the NHS nationally think that it is in a terrible state. ( usually 70% to 30%) When they are asked about the service they have had personally the figured dramatically change (around 75% to 25%) in saying it was well run. Too many negative stories from the press skew our feelings towards it.
Did Ying chose Yang?
Bobby Murdoch @ 11.17
Gordon_J @ 11.23
Aye, I take that on board….
Pretty decent Points.
Just under 7hr to K.O.
Let the People Sing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&feature=related&v=zhkdy0AOpaM