Jock, Martin, Gordon and Neil

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You remember Celtic manager, Gordon Stachan, third manager in our history to win three-in-a-row?  Took us to the Champions League knock out stages for the first time, did much of this while comparative economics were moving against us, remember him?  Is he the same Gordon Strachan who has transformed the Scotland national team’s results?

Gordon is unequivocally a successful manager but his Scotland team is performing far better than I thought possible when he took over what looked like a poisoned chalice.  The most stunning fact of his record there is that they have not conceded a goal in three successive away games.  Gordon’s Celtic covered 15 months, across two championship winning seasons, without keeping a single clean sheet away from home, no matter how lowly or distressed the opponent.  Even good, experienced, managers learn, especially from their earlier troubles.

Jock Stein is viewed mostly through the prism of 1967 but during his final season as Celtic manager, 1977-78, the sentiment among many in the support was decidedly downbeat.  Rangers (remember them, played in blue, I think?) would win their third title in four seasons, with two trebles thrown in for good measure.  Celtic finished fifth in the league, Jock’s judgement was widely called into question.

At the time Leeds United were a top club in England and after Celtic sacked Jock they moved to secure him.  Leeds had no doubts as to his abilities.  A little over a month later the SFA offered him the Scotland job, which he took and excelled at, twice succeeding in World Cup qualifying campaigns.  His talents were without question but stood in sharp contrast to how many in the support viewed him a few years earlier.

I don’t know if Jock was a better manager in 1982 and beyond than he was in 1978 but there’s a decent chance his football education didn’t stop when the trophies dried up at Celtic.  Gordon Strachan is, like Jock was until the end, a student of the game.  Neil Lennon is too, he is also receiving some of the reviews his illustrious predecessors would recognise. Gordon was an excellent Celtic manager but he’s better now, perhaps as a result of life’s experiences along the way.

It’ll be really interesting to see how Euro qualifiers reflect on the comparative progress of Gordon and Martin O’Neill, who for my money was a better manager than Mourinho when the latter deployed some of the best players in the world against Celtic in Seville, and needed to deploy every underhand trick in the book to come out on top.

I was blown away by the stunning contributions to our Mary’s Meals campaign yesterday.  First in was an incredible £200 + £50 gift aid donation, followed by others, large and small, every one appreciated.  Ignore those who would tell you society is dead.  You can get involved here.

Seville, The Celtic Movement, launches this month.

“Porto were favourites and would go on to prove how good a team they were by winning the Champions League 12 months later. Their players would demonstrate their prowess across the world for the next decade. They had fabulous talent, so much so, that they should have aspired to better than the gamesmanship used during their run to the UEFA Cup and Champions League wins.”

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  1. the long wait is over on

    Lion roars

     

     

    That video make me laugh and feel bilious at the same time. Quite a achievement.

  2. Emilio Izaguirre last night urged Celtic to sign him up for the rest of his career.

     

     

    Usually this means he be sold in the summer ?

  3. valentinesday on

    Good Morning Timland.

     

     

    Congratulations Cowiebhoy on the addition to your clan.

     

     

    Waterproofs on again for my dog walking duties,when is

     

    this high pressure, spring like weather due to kick in.

  4. Good morning friends from a pretty wet, windy, dreich and damp East Kilbride. Just as well we don’t have to get wrapped up for a cup quarter final tie then ;-)

     

     

    Just 6 more sleeps. Will be surprised if next Saturday’s EK report is as early as this one.

  5. minx1888 praying for Wee Oscar on

    THE EXILED TIM

     

    23:19 on

     

    7 March, 2014

     

    Minx

     

     

    Mrs TET said thanks.

     

     

    She was wondering if you liked her page, and wondered if you did, what your initials were, as about the time you posted this morning, a dozen or so others liked her page, tho she discounted one as she is sure you are not called Anna Gonzalez and lives in San Fransisco !!!!

     

     

    Does that make sence to you, cos it don’t to me >}

     

     

     

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    Its HD I shared her page is an absolute belter she is a very funny lady”

     

     

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    Cowiebhoy – congratulations to all the family

  6. Last night was the first of a 2 week long Irish festival in Manchester, let that thought live long in yir memory muchachos!

     

     

    Breakfast calls tooodaloooo!

     

     

    Ps looking for 2 tickets for the cqn10 do, keep an eye out fur me!

  7. midfield maestro on

    PC67

     

     

    Cheers, totally ill. Frankie bhoy was very good, other guy was worst ever, curator at SFA museum. Back on it again the nicht, Micky Bubble at The Hydro.

  8. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    COWIEBHOY

     

     

    Congratulations to all concerned!

  9. sixtaeseven - Gardez la Foi, DAM 5 ! on

    Glenn G:

     

    “the new Rangers company which was formed after the liquidation of the old – that is, their status as a business as opposed to a crowd-pulling football team”

     

     

    What a tangled web of words – and he didn’t even manage to mention “the club”.

     

     

    Bwahahaha

  10. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    VMHAN

     

     

    Mailed ya re tickets.

  11. vmhan –

     

     

    re CQTen tickets I’ve emailed winning captains who I think might still have a few tickets.

     

     

    Jobo

  12. pedrocaravanachio67 on

    MM

     

     

    glad u had a good night, if your up and about, I’ll call u about 9ish.

     

     

    The wee fella had his first training session with his new team last night, as you’ll probably remember yerself, these are dad duties….nae way of gettin out of it ( and TBH, wouldn’t want to ).

     

    The Booble guy tonight….what a crap life you’ve got :-)

  13. football people say a player took one for the team

     

    on sun 25th may 2003

     

    chris Sutton took one for the fans

     

    with his scathing attack on the pitiful display by

     

    Dunfermline at mordor

     

    was his ban not more than black received

     

    for betting against his own team

     

    ifso it says it all

     

    hail hail

  14. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    The Token Tim

     

     

    BMCUW,

     

     

     

    Totally understand why so many others couldnt go. i have a few friends who are teachers for example, not to mention again my youngest brother and his maths higher etc. Your good self.

     

     

     

    HAIL! HAIL!

     

    Token

     

     

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    We beat Boavista on the Thursday night and the Fri/Mon were holidays so I didn’t get the chance to ask my boss for the time off until the Tuesday morning.

     

     

    When she came along that afternoon to tell me that GCC had put a blanket ban on teachers getting unpaid leave to go to Seville I genuinely remember filling up.

     

     

    I’d always admonished her of any blame, considering it a decision that she had no control over. However, as the years roll on and I hear of more and more teachers who were given the time to go, my resentment at her words grows stronger.

     

     

    She knew what Celtic meant to me, the sacrifices that I made with time and money to follow the team.

     

     

    Despite the fact that in hindsight I had a night that I will never forget, alongside my da in the Gallowgate, I’ll never forget her lack of compassion and understanding of my desire to be there.

     

     

    Ps it was made worse because I think I was the only Tim at Kilmarnock on the following Sunday without a tan :-)

  15. This week’s CQN Couopn –

     

     

    Jobo Baldie – Dunfermline

     

    Lennybhoy – Notts Forest

     

    Blantyretim – Chelsea

     

    PFayr – Sothampton

     

    Greenlion2 – Brentford

     

    Pogmanhony – Huddersfield

     

    The Toekn Tim – Leyton Orient

     

    Awalkacrosstherooftops – Stranraer

     

     

    Go easy with the pennies

  16. 67Heaven ... I am Neil Lennon, supporting WEE OSCAR..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on

    CONGRATULATIONS, COWIEBHOY, AND TO THE ‘WONDERFUL MOTHER’……!!!

  17. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    @celticservant: Izaguirre “The Green Brigade like me a lot and I appreciate the treatment they have given me and they deserve my respect & admiration”

     

     

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    Oh oh Izzy don’t you remember, you’re not allowed to talk about ‘the guys in the corner’ in public?!

  18. WInning Captains…… I did ask Paul B for tickets about 3 weeks ago, so I may be on a list somewhere :>)

     

     

    WC, Some would say that perhaps 54 yr old GB’ers are…… ahem not welcome, if that’s the case no problem…… Kettle me at the bar area, that’ll do nicely.

     

     

    HH

  19. Cowiebhoy supporting the Celtic to 3 in a row on

    vmhan – ynwa wee oscar

     

     

    Doc has 2 tickets, for the large group of us at tables 7, 8

     

    14 & 15 I think

     

     

    Doc@ CQteN

     

     

    Hail Hail

  20. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    HAMILTON TIM

     

     

    Rotten bitch,heart of stone.

     

     

    Liked the line about the tan though!

  21. Hamiltontim is praying for Oscar on

    BMCUW

     

     

    Yep still can’t look her in the eye anytime I meet her!

     

     

    Apologies for not responding to your last couple of emails big yin but often the time that I’d get to do it would be at night once I’m home. Unfortunately I then have my chores to do :-)

     

     

    Tooting is a smashing big guy! All the way from London to watch Celtic on a Tuesday night at Pittodrie, now that’s devotion for ye.

     

     

    I was so much in admiration that I personally accompanied him into the stadium 10 minutes late!!! :-)

  22. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    HAMILTON TIM

     

     

    Don’t worry about that,mate. You have more to deal with than my witterings.

     

     

    As for Aidan?

     

     

    He’s a smashing fella,for sure.

     

     

    Can sing nane,mind. Or was that me?!

  23. Cowiebhoy

     

     

    Congratulations to your family.

     

     

    Reading back on last nights proceedings .

     

     

    I have nothing but fantastic memories of Seville and our run that year. I wasn’t born when the Lions conquered Europe , was months old when we lost the final in Milan.

     

    I was reared on magical stories of that era and given our performances in Europe never thought I would ever see a Euro final.

     

    For me Seville was a pilgrimege, maybe ( hopefully not ) a once in a lifetime opportunity to experience what my Da and his pals went through. It was almost religious.My stomach is in knots even now thinking of it. The build up, the quest for tickets, the drink, the bizarre stories , the comradeship , how 100k Celtic supporters descended on that ancient town and left the locals with nothing but good memories.

     

    Whilst the cheating of Porto still sticks in my throat, I have to say , maybe wrongly , the result was almost secondary to the whole experience .

     

    Just being there was more important than the result.

     

    We showed the world what we are all about.

     

     

    Now Motherwell, 2005, that was simply awful!!

  24. Beware the GUMMY BEARS are on the war path :))

     

     

    The reports we weren’t’ t meant to see @PeterAdamSmith – #followVB #rtid #watp http://t.co/CaWz3WGbJE

     

     

    Celtic’s State Aid Unearthed

     

     

    Written by: Chubby Brown

     

    Saturday, 8th March 2014

     

     

     

    Vanguard Bears explain the reasons why Glasgow City Council are withholding the Geo Technical report for the Westthorn site, sold at a knock-down price to Celtic F.C.

     

     

    The reason given for this huge reduction in price is that due to ground ‘abnormals’, houses could not be built on the site, thus seemingly reducing the land’s value significantly.

     

     

    Over the last few months we have seen the gradual unearthing (no pun intended) of the truth surrounding the sale of the Westthorn site to the Celtic FC. The continued refusal by GCC to hand over the Geo Technical report has enraged many trying to establish the true reasoning for the far-below-value sale of the plot.

     

     

    Well, as GCC do not want to reveal the report, we have established the facts of the Westthron plot and have published our findings.

     

     

    There are no underground faults that would destabilise any building work. as can be seen in the graphic below:

     

     

     

    There is no hidden soil composition that would prevent building. The bore hole report from the site to a depth of 36m shows nothing that would prevent building homes on the land.

     

     

     

    To put this in perspective the site next door where the former Belvidere Hospital was situated is now the site of Belvidere Village, a housing development built by Keir Homes and the soil composition is as good as Westthorn. The Belvidere site that was sold for £15.2M minus £7.1M for the remediation work that was required to rid the site of foundations and lead pipework from the old hospital.

     

     

     

    Just to finish it off, the myth of contamination was busted yesterday with a Freedom Of Information disclosure from the Scottish Environment Protection Agency (SEPA) to a request by Big Joe Canoe. There was no contamination!

     

     

     

    So, now there is irrefutable proof that there was not, and are no abnormal ground conditions nor contamination in place at Westthorn, we hope that along with the footballing authorities, the European Commission look deeply into this matter and commence a full scale, thorough investigation into the unfair and illegal State Aid that has been given to Celtic F.C. causing an unfair sporting advantage at best, and straight-up fraud at worst.

     

     

     

     

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  25. Morning all. Dire today down here. High wind and driving rain.

     

     

    I hope Biton recovers quickly. As my mate says, “he can become a very important player for us”.

     

     

    It would seem that van Dijk and Foster won’t be going to Brazil. While I’m sorry for them, I think that is good news for Celtic. Besides the possiblity we might be able to hold on to them a bit longer, they should be fit and ready for the CL qualifiers.

  26. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    Vman

     

    text u information requested and docs mobile number

  27. Burghbhoy,

     

     

    I enjoyed the great years. I was in school when Lisbon occurred. But I was in Milan. Seville was an utterly different experience, although I still felt gutted at the same result. I was living in Holland when we played Feijenoord. I think I was one of the very few Celtic supporters who was aware of their capability. We were hammered on the night, partly because they had one of the best players I have ever seen, Wim van Hanegem. To say he had a better left foot than wee Bertie sums him up.

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