Shakhter seem convinced they will eliminate Celtic tomorrow. Their friendly journalist explained why to Kazak readers today:
“Despite winning comfortably enough in the capital last Tuesday, Celtic remain confident of overturning the deficit in Albion (sic). Getting to the group stage is not a forbidden dream for Shakhter, it is their right as a result of recent domestic success.
“Shakhter have the mining spirit of resilience, respect and strict discipline. Glasgow also has a long mining tradition but Margaret Thatcher closed the mines in the 1980s (!). Since then, Glasgow people lost their previous spirit once and for all.
“Neil Lennon was unprepared and the Celtic defenders unable to do the job in Astana. Just like BATE Borisov, they think they will overcome the result in the second leg. Just like BATE they are still unprepared for Shakhter.
“Albion’s (sic) best managers are from Glasgow, Busby, Ferguson, Stein, Shankley, Dalglish, Moyes, but the current Celtic leadership chose a man from Ireland, Neil Lennon, who is permanently under fire from fans of the “Celts”.
“Celtic have an epidemic of injuries. Stokes, Commons, Forrest, Boerrigter, Kayal and Samaras.
“The referee is from Norway. Scandinavians appreciate a tough fight. The game is a very sensitive, contact, martial arts sport. Svein Moen will understand.
“Before the game in Astana Neil Lennon said Shakhter play a very British style. Why wasn’t he able to find an antidote to this? Maybe he got Shakhter completely wrong.
“Karagandy’s three central defenders are impenetrable. They close down space and do not interfere with each other.
“The “Catholics” refuse to acknowledge that Shakhter did not miss a ball against them in the first leg. They think that because they can from 0-2 down against Inverness they can do the same against Shakhter. This is unacceptable. It will seem more absurd if the Miners open their account in Glasgow.
“In defeating BATE, Shakhter have already eliminated a higher seed than Celtic.”
Leave nothing in the dressing room, Celtic.
Charlotte Fakes
When I started Celtic Quick News in 2004 I had neither contacts nor inside information. I started writing about the accounts, which was hugely consequential but, at the time, largely ignored public information. Soon after the blog gained some momentum this changed. People would come to me with information and views which were used to direct articles.
It only took a matter of weeks to go from zero contacts to having a network of people feeding into the blog.
I have no idea how Charlotte Fakes acquired some of her early information but, with doubts over the matter, it is understandable that the media was hesitant at touching it under the shadow of Leveson.
The Charlotte Fakes story has moved on, recent revelations have nothing whatsoever to do with Mr Whyte’s mailbox. We are now in the territory of cast iron whistle-blower information. She has her own network of people feeding legally acquired information, which the whistle-blower believes is in the public interest to reveal.
Some people in the game have had their snouts in the trough for so many decades a reservoir of resentment has built up against them among those who were once collaborators but are now cast aside. You are reading the fruits of this on Charlotte Fakes.
The only question is, while the rest of the world has a new-found appreciation of the value of whistle-blowers, are ‘all the president’s men’ still prepared to look the other way in Scotland?
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quantum
Couldn’t have been Chic Murray!
LB
Quantum.
No wonder he looked at you strangely. He died in 1985.
Quantum.
spooky…..
quantum
Chic died in 1985.
No wonder the oul fella was confused.
Quantum leap ….. backwards. . O))
quantum
a quantum leap indeed.
Maybe he was playing the piano too as in gregorys girl…
quantum
16:04
Chick Murray – died nearly 30 years ago. Are you sure you weren’t in the mortuary?
Now was that the Big Yin or Rikki Fulton??
Oh Bhoy!
QUANTUM
Ot was,indeed.
A very funny fella who never cracked a smile. I knew his son,Stuart(?)in the 80s in Edinburgh. Miserable sod.
We got on great!
Billy Connolly tells some good tales about Chic.
The tall droll and the small doll. I think it was Chick who told him the Parkinson joke about parking the bike!
quantum
My dad knew Chick Murray.
First met him in the 1940s – possibly in a pub somewhere in Greenock!
HH!!
Getting more nervous the closer we get to kick off , I was confident & still am to an extent , my heart says no problem , my he head says give me peace & my gut says it could do without the turmoil ….. but the more I hear of their yacking the the more determined I am that they will leave Paradise with their entrails exposed and I’ve no doubt that the players & coaching staff will be no different ……intae them Celtic .
For all you Aztec Camera fans
http://www.uncut.co.uk/roddy-frame-announces-aztec-camera-anniversary-shows-news
The barst###d he never let on. No wonder he looked at me as if I was daft. Any way I’m sure he had that joke as part of his routine.
Mr Z
Thanks for the answer and it was an honest question.
I will not give my opinions on Maggie T as children read this blog.
We might also differ on Che but such is life
The implications are that Celtic’s senior management team has been party to or has at least approved the five-way agreement, and that they, our high-ups, are happy with the status quo (Campbell Ogilvie et al still in situ, the Sevco impersonators giving it, ‘I just want to be your Deady Bears’ and so on).
If this is true, and they refuse to tell us, it must be because they fear it will end in the loss of office and the loss of face, because the Celtic support will not tolerate the collusion. This has been rumbling on for months, with the football offering scant distraction. I have a bit of a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach about it, but I sense things are coming to a head and I’m glad, or at least relieved. We need to know.
This is a world in which nothing can be hidden. The only way to prosper is to have nothing to hide. That includes Celtic, and everything we love.
Now here’s the thing about our much vaunted fiscal policy. We buy young players with potential who are cheap, develop them and sell high. A great idea in my opinion. I mean Victor £12.5m, Gary £5.2m and Kelvin £2.5m = £20.2m in the kitty. Great as long as the people in charge don’t play Russian roullette eith the playing squad when we have to play 3 CL qualifiers and leave the manager short for crucial games that could earn the club £15m on top. I mean if we were knocked out and lost the £15m wouldn’t that mean we only made a net profit of £5.2m? Oh wait didn’t we pay out some transfer fees for some of those 3 starlets when we brought them in? What was it again £2.3 m for Gsry and 0.9m for Victor. Now that would be £3.2m. Take that away from a net profit of £5.2m and we’re left with, let’s see, £2m.
This means that our much vaunted fiscal policy will be in tatters if we don’t progress tomorrow night.
If I was Peter Lawell, I would be in the middle of the Green Brigade tomorrow night with the biggest megaphone I could find.
COME ON YOU BHOYS IN GREEN
SFTB- maybe an old address?
Anyways, that looks like a worthy winner of the Ignoble Prize.
On transfer strategy, I saw this post in a newspaper blog and wondered how we would resolve the Finbogasson/ Pukki transfer shenanigans using these options:-
“The dilemma Celtic face, given our position in Europe, is that we will have around 6 striker signing targets. The 5th and 6th choice targets may come early on in the window as Celtic are the biggest club in for them. Then you end up with a lower level signing who is available to bed in early but is, perhaps, less likely to be successful against the teams you will meet at Champions League group stages, if you get there.
3rd and 4th choice targets have other clubs of similar stature in for them and some lesser clubs willing to pay them more. So you may have to pay over the odds to the selling club and player to get them in early. If you repeat that strategy of always having to pay over the odds, you eventually lose value. You may have a slightly better forward but they are still likely to be more poorly rated players than your Champions League Group opponents have as 3rd and 4th choice strikers on their bench.
Your top two signing targets are reluctant to take the gamble of coming to Celtic because they have better and wealthier clubs after them. They won’t agree to come to Celtic until all these options have been exhausted and, at least, until CL group participation is guaranteed. Celtic could aim for the best option available and still find themselves priced out of the competition or having to gamble that the player will relent on his unwillingness to come to Glasgow, when he sees no other bigger clubs actually do bid for him. If both your top targets are snapped up elsewhere or just say no, you are left with the decision to go back down your list, if anyone remains, or go with what you have.”
1) Pay over the odds just this once because we are desperate.
2) Pay over the odds and keep paying over the odds because we are always desperate and it worked for David Murray.
3) Cut your losses and just buy someone lower down your list
4) Gamble by being patient that your top targets are more likely to come if they are assured you have qualified for Group Stages already.
5) Some other creative resolution I cannot think of at present.
Sheik Yerbouti
14:33 on 27 August, 2013
good article paul67
shackter sussed us fae the start
there better than anything we’ll play in scotland this season
the tie is over as far as im concerned
a shame cos we done well last year
not sure we will score or let one in either
europa league here we come
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got to be the worst post I have read on here in many a month,,,FFS may aswell stay in the hoose,the eve of the most important game of the season so far and you come away with that, no offence meant here shiek, but just wish you had kept that opinion to your self,
SFTB- I’ve re-sent it to the other address I have for you.
It sounds as if I’m pre-judging the outcome of Phil’s questions for Celtic. That would be wrong of me. I would hope the club have been doing right by us. But we still need to know.
watched Shakter train this morning. They did not look like a side that was worried or jet-lagged. Their running was free and easy with lots of spirit and humour present.
This is a hard task and we need to be absolutely up for it.
HH
C1st.
Some has suspected this for a while. We haven’t been told the truth. This added to the transfer problems only add to the questions we need answering.
But again I and other will be shouted down as mineshafters.
I’m glad the questions have come from a well respected poster as yourself.
I see one of the wee boys from 1Direction is lined up to play in the Stan Petrov charity bounce match. You never know, if he manages to stick a couple in the ole onion bag he mighty just save Mr Lawwell £1.5m (approx).
just saw Tommy Cooper on the slaemuir bus there.
and the Chich joke was about a bar of toffee, no wunner he looked at you funny when you cant even get the deid guys punchlines right.
CLINK\o/
If you read the wiki page on Katyn,you will be appalled.
Cover-up by our government,the US,France. And denial by USSR until it ceased to exist.
We went to war in 39 because of the German invasion of Poland.
Yet blithely ignored it,and everything that happened there for the next five years.
Pretty shocking tale of a nation sold down the river for political expediency.
Paul67 et al
Yes the mines getting closed was a body blow for the ol mineshafters back in the day no doubt about it. Mine’s (or is it ‘mine’?) was closed over twenty years earlier. Interestingly, as part of the planning application to demolish the old Glasgow school, Celtic’s submission mentioned the possibility that there might be (might be…) a disused mine under the London Road. So, there is still hope yet!
dexter…
Is the frustration with the board?
Why do we appear so slow in concluding deals?
Did many happy clappers previously predict we would have players in for the 1st leg? Then, the 2nd leg?
Are we not embarrassed?
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EMBARRASSED?????……never have nor never will be EMBARRASSED…….
Mr Johnny Clash -is this the much sought after replacement for Gerard Butler?
BT,
not calling anyone a mineshafter or anything else,i too wish we had got players in sooner,but what do you make of the comments from NL today about difficulty in getting players in and the support of the board?
blantyretim is praying for the Knox family
16:19
No, the questions have come from Phil Mac Giolla Bhain. All I’m saying is there is little point in Phil parading the list of questions the SFA stonewalled if he has failed to put the questions he asks of Celtic to Celtic (and he doesn’t say if he has).
If he has put those questions to Celtic, he should tell us. If Celtic have stonewalled him, he should tell us (just like has has done with the SFA). Most importantly of all, if Celtic have answered the questions, we need to know the answers.
Was it Ross Hall hospital that you met Chic Murray in? Maybe he’s signing for us and didn’t want to give it away? He’d be deadly.
G64.
Not sure as we have been told previously that we conduct our business in private. If that is fact why discuss it in the media now.
I don’t want to detract from tomorrows game .
Apart from the obvious gaffs …. Re football comment was the khazak journo that far off the mark
We were stinking last Tuesday and deserved what we got
Poor again on Saturday
I don’t fancy us giving anyone a two goal lead … Particularly when we have to keep a clean sheet for 90 mins
Big improvement required
DBBIA
As you know, Gerry Butler is now well outwith Mr Lawwell’s strict wage structure. The thespian Gareth Bale if you will.
DBBIA
I found the e mail and replied from my own e mail address
Celtic First
I have long been suspicious that Celtic, at least, went along with the 5 way agreement. I doubt they were daft enough to have formally and legally approved of the strategy. I suspect they kept a “plausible deniability” gap between themselves and the participants but I cannot see Regan, Doncaster et al having dreamed up this resolution without consulting Celtic in advance.
What surprises me was that they trusted Green in trying to sell the deal- a few stripped titles for a total blind eye being turned to the rules. Charlie Green possibly never intended to keep his part of the bargain but, when the fans revolted and the agreement was scuppered, what was stopping Celtic from seeking assurance that existing SFA rules were being followed in dealing with this?
The only good explanation I can put on it is that they were hoping to use the evidence of a dysfunctional football administration as an argument for support in breaking free of Scottish football.
The alternative, that they were willing to see an unpunished and unweakened rangers return to SPL following liquidation, defies all logic.
FF theologians ponder the question:
“Have we finally silenced the ‘But ye huvnae signed a…’ brigade?”
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“The events of 1916, the fenian movement and the traumas of war hardened attitudes and saw many Scots despair of the ‘enemy within’…the policy (which wasn’t one) merely reflected the wishes of our vast support and did us no harm at all until many decades later when it became unsuitable to modern football.
I’d still ban ALL local, West of Scotland, RCs from even working as toilet cleaners.”
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“It was never a credible criticism in the first place”
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“There may be a few old unreconstructed die-hards out there, but there can’t be many.”
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“The [Celtic] seem to have had a disproportionate number of RC’s in the ranks over their 124yr history,
Was this a signing policy?
Your damn right it was.
At various points in their poisonous history they have attempted to field an all RC side.”
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“[Celtic] would have followed a No-Protestant policy if they could have.
But, due to Roman Popery being a minority religion there were few Young Catholics that could play football, and most of them had riquets.
So they couldn’t function without Protestants.”