I don’t get the flares thing. It’s not a part of my going-to-see-Celtic tradition. But if it was my thing, I’d have the courage of my convictions, I wouldn’t hide the fact.
There are consequences of bringing flares to football games, always has been. By not having the courage to openly ignite them, those consequences are not personalised to the individuals who regard this as an integral part of what they do at a football game, they are visited upon everyone in the vicinity, as well as the club.
The problem with flares at Celtic games is those who bring them hide the fact – as they clearly know there are consequences, and presumably aren’t too interested in taking responsibility for them. ‘Keen on flares, not keen enough to stand up for them’, is why the issue persists.
I get the attraction to bright, shiny, things, but this isn’t a campaign to bring the vote to disenfranchised people against a force who will execute the offender on sight. It’s about bringing a flare to a football game. If it’s so important, do it openly. If you think Health and Safety are simply wrong, find the evidence and use it in court. Have the courage to change something. I know lots of Celtic fans who have had the courage to put their name to something they believed in, in recent years. It’s seldom easy, but it has been done.
But in the years of this debate no one has ever pointed to evidence that igniting flares in a football ground is a clever thing to do. It’s just a ‘look at me’ exercise, ‘But don’t look at my face’, of course.
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Episode 5 of ‘A Celtic State of Mind’ finds Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham discussing a variety of topical subjects concerning Celtic Football Club, including:
* What now for the Green Brigade?
* Dedryck Boyata – Are reinforcements on route?
* Virgil van Dijk – The windfall cometh;
* Emilio Izaguirre – Moving on.
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At the end of the day all those who are backing the board are backing the cheating and the corruption.
It really is as simple as that.
Forget all the pish with uefa, if you back the board you condone the cheating and the corruption.
Don’t see anything wrong with the GB statement.
Angry young men doing what angry young men do – standing their ground; making their point.
Perhaps the statement would have been more conciliatory if they felt the treatment meeted out to them was even-handed.
Perhaps if the people at the core of their raison d’etre had been less sleekit and followed their own code; you can read the GB’s truths there in black and white – don’t be selective.
They made mistakes, they aknowledge so. They blush with indignation and slighly overwrought bitterness born of frustration… BUT they also inform us of Celtic’s position; hardly innocent, questions of betrayal and conniving to answer.
Interesting as always that outrage towards a particular small group over a dubious incident of ambiguous intent can be manipulated to eclipse direct racial and ethnic hatred by tens of thousands towards our club, its players and supporters, their families and relatives, legends living and deceased.
But, y’know, fill yer boots with Green Brigade blood while the Zombie Hun squirrel runs riot with your sense of perspective.
Go for it Celtic, put the frightners up the Ultras ..rses see how smart they are then.
Linfield vowed to seek ‘financial redress’ after they were fined €10,000 by UEFA and ordered to close a section of Windsor Park following crowd trouble during their Champions League qualifier against Celtic in Belfast last Friday.
A statement released by the club on Thursday evening confirmed the club has been cooperating with the Police Service of Northern Ireland over antisocial behaviour by a small pocket of home fans.
The charges related to two separate incidents during and after the game, which Celtic won 2-0 before winning the return leg 4-0 at Parkhead.
Linfield were charged with objects, including an empty glass bottle of Buckfast, being thrown at Celtic striker Leigh Griffiths as he attempted to take a corner.
A further charge was levelled against the club when fans invaded the pitch after full-time when Griffiths attempted to tie a Celtic scarf to one of the goalposts.
“Linfield FC shares the frustration of the vast majority of our many loyal and genuine supporters who have been rightly appalled by this negative and unwelcome behaviour and the punitive sanction it has attracted,” read the statement on the club’s website.
The club is cooperating fully with the PSNI over possible prosecutions and will seek financial redress from any identified individuals through the civil courts.”
At the end of the day all those who are backing the board are backing the cheating and the corruption.
It really is as simple as that.
Forget all the crap with uefa, if you back the board you condone the cheating and the corruption.
Double post, sorry
KEVJUNGLE on 22nd July 2017 5:19 pm
Huff Puff Blaw
Bottom line is….
For as long as, there are, 53,000 season tickets sold at Celtic Park, and the club is custodially governed by a PLC board which, in the main is, populated by, out of touch, millionaires and, billionaires, well, Celtic FC and its world wide supporter base, will never know, peace or, justice.
Its as simple as that.
Back of the bus rebels, will never know – justice.
53,000 Celtic supporters know that, Scottish football is bent.
And yet, a worrying amount of that 53,000 think that, Celtic FC is run by snowmen.
So, so sad.
When will the penny drop ?
Will the penny, ever drop ?
Ah mean, how many of the, crowd funders of the “statement” in the Sunday Herald, paid 49 quid to watch this, apparently, new club ?
Dear, dear, dear……
…..off-oot.
……………………………………..
Wis Dom
Heres a Tune…..
A Jam Spoon.
Allow it
I really do have to laugh at some of the drivel I read on here about the importance and scale of the Green Brigade, there is 80 of them ffs. Given them their own section is the biggest load of shite I see blurted out, the Plc let them stand together on four rows it’s hardly a section ffs, there are bigger groups sitting together every week, the Kano foundation section is probably bigger, I know it has far more educated adults sitting in it and I don’t mean the supervisors.
People really need to stop reading some of the drivel posted on here about an insignificant proportion of the support who are an invention of the Plc to be used and manipulated to control the hard of thinking.
The bottom line is the green brigade regardless of the shite they spout do nothing without the grace of the Plc. If the Plc don’t want a banner or flares then there will be no banners or flares do the morons on here honestly believe in a controlled area like a stadium there is no control over who and what gets in or how they/it I deployed.
If the board do not want banners or flares deployed then they will be nipped in the bud long before the action is completed. Seriously people a you really this thick ?
KEVJ.csc
Celtic are bound by rules of SFA, SPFL and UEFA and cannot just make public statements or actions to satisfy us.
Take me to the TOP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XArP5cmsIVE
https://stripthetitles.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/reclaiming-our-game-at-holyrood/
A straightforward survey that allows for real comment on the running of the game in Scotland.
I would go so far as to say that not at least looking at it removes much from any criticisms you make of the running of our game in Scotland.
The more who join this Supporters ` Group, the greater our strength.
JJ
Take ME to the Top!!!!!!!!!
All eating yersels
jibber jabber ftw.
THE EXILED TIM on 22ND JULY 2017 5:58 PM
At the end of the day all those who are backing the board are backing the cheating and the corruption.
It really is as simple as that.
Forget all the crap with uefa, if you back the board you condone the cheating and the corruption.
Don’t be daft, that’s just a silly statement, of course unless you put in my opinion after it yes that’s fine, other than that it’s just whatabouterie.
Read a post the other day, in the midst of all the mayhem – the team is going into this game with only one recognised striker, one recognised centre half and about 20 midfielders.
It must be amateur night again.
Obviously I blame the Green Brigade, however thon Peter Lawwell sure does like a good gamble.
Risky business indeed.
HH.
The Exiled Tim
“It’s no just the banners tho is it, it’s huge poles that got in undetected, aye right.”
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Brexit bites at Paradise anaw!
I know I know.
Ajer
Book of Numbers? verses to sound Intelligent?
” Football without flares is nothin’..”
The United Peoples Front Of Judea.
TD67
When the board walk away and allow the huns, the sfa-spl to get away with it and keep the titles you will be Ok with it then
So let me get this right there are Celtic fans now saying that BR is so angry at the banner he didn’t see that he is considering leaving. And although the GB apologised they didn’t apologise enough. The smsm created this non story and its now a full blown crisis. Get a grip folks and see the bigger picture here. Hh
That Bhoy is the Real Deal.
Sensational Celtic… AGAIN.
BB
:-)
HH
THE EXILED TIM on 22ND JULY 2017 6:08 PM
TD67
When the board walk away and allow the huns, the sfa-spl to get away with it and keep the titles you will be Ok with it then
Have they?
TONYDONNELLY67 on 22ND JULY 2017 5:57 PM
Are you suggesting that the Celtic Board should emulate the behaviour of Linfield?
I am happy with the Board.
SANDMAN on 22ND JULY 2017 5:57 PM
Don’t see anything wrong with the GB statement.
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If the 1872 mob had put that statement out we would be rolling about the floor laughing.
TD67
You know deep down that’s what they will do
BEATBHOY on 22ND JULY 2017 5:29 PM
Meant for Embramike.
Hope the ref shares some characteristics of his appointed Observer.
Yip – we can honestly shout “the official’s A Hamer”
” THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E on 22ND JULY 2017 3:05 PM
Now that there is going to be a substantial area not populated v Rosenborg ……..prime site for a massive ‘STRIP THE TITLES’ banner.”
AlwayslookonthebrightsideCSC
PS I thinkTBFU`s suggestion is excellent. One would assume that SOME media attention will be drawn to the empty area. To have a Strip The Titles banner there would be superb.
The daily record reading wing of the support having a good day on the moral high ground today again. Tabloid CSC!!
GORDON
The way I saw and read the Ultra statement was,…. we are sorry,…but it wasent us that done it……big guys done it and ran away…….and we are going to do it again….so f you Celtic , not in those words but close enough.
HOT SMOKED on 22ND JULY 2017 6:13 PM
” THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E on 22ND JULY 2017 3:05 PM
PS I thinkTBFU`s suggestion is excellent. One would assume that SOME media attention will be drawn to the empty area. To have a Strip The Titles banner there would be superb.
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This is precisely the kind of thing the GB should have crowd funded today along with a proper apology. A big opportunity missed.
Hot Smoked,
Seriously, you think this board would allow a strip the titles banner into the stadium :))))))))
Peter – Do you think that Ajer will play from the start on Wednesday night?
I think we should already have signed a new centre half and a new striker at this stage.
Every season this nonsense is the same.
Waiting to see, taking risks, gambling.
Buy the players that will enhance the team’s chances of qualifying.
HH.
THE EXILED TIM on 22ND JULY 2017 6:13 PM
TD67
You know deep down that’s what they will do
If I knew things like that, I’d be barred from casinos and betting shops :))
You know it’s went wrong when the Huns are saying on twitter….leave the GB alone….
Thetimreaper.6.12.
You are not comparing like with like but you know that.
1872 are now wecond biggest shareholders in Sevco, G.B. are 80 members.
1872 generally make statements to defend their own, whether or not we laugh at them.
Our PLC criticise our own and allow everyone a free ride.
Hail Hail