I don’t get the flares thing. It’s not a part of my going-to-see-Celtic tradition. But if it was my thing, I’d have the courage of my convictions, I wouldn’t hide the fact.
There are consequences of bringing flares to football games, always has been. By not having the courage to openly ignite them, those consequences are not personalised to the individuals who regard this as an integral part of what they do at a football game, they are visited upon everyone in the vicinity, as well as the club.
The problem with flares at Celtic games is those who bring them hide the fact – as they clearly know there are consequences, and presumably aren’t too interested in taking responsibility for them. ‘Keen on flares, not keen enough to stand up for them’, is why the issue persists.
I get the attraction to bright, shiny, things, but this isn’t a campaign to bring the vote to disenfranchised people against a force who will execute the offender on sight. It’s about bringing a flare to a football game. If it’s so important, do it openly. If you think Health and Safety are simply wrong, find the evidence and use it in court. Have the courage to change something. I know lots of Celtic fans who have had the courage to put their name to something they believed in, in recent years. It’s seldom easy, but it has been done.
But in the years of this debate no one has ever pointed to evidence that igniting flares in a football ground is a clever thing to do. It’s just a ‘look at me’ exercise, ‘But don’t look at my face’, of course.
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Episode 5 of ‘A Celtic State of Mind’ finds Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham discussing a variety of topical subjects concerning Celtic Football Club, including:
* What now for the Green Brigade?
* Dedryck Boyata – Are reinforcements on route?
* Virgil van Dijk – The windfall cometh;
* Emilio Izaguirre – Moving on.
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DD
Trained the wee fella right up in the last month.
Every time a zombie walks down the street, he shouts, ‘yer heid’s wasted ya numpty’
Neighbours think im David Blaine:)
Wait till winter when ive got a team of wee foxes dragging me down Balmore Rd on a sled:)
Santa Claus wull be ragin:)
HH
I will post a Tommy Burns story tomorrow, what a man HH
DD
My big brother at ametuer level had a bad leg break around the same time as “Durranty” him and my brother became friendly through watcjimhbnot playing, played the odd game with his two brothers Alan & Jamie…. two nicer guys you could meet….. though once a hun always a hun :-)
Delaneys Dunky,
I want Jim Chapman to succeed.
Jim is a proper fitba person.
Dumbarton lost a Great when he left Dumbarton.
I’m talkin’ aboot the Youth setup.
Jim looked out for the players.
Score a hattrick – you done this wrong.
Misplaced passes – You can do it – Never give up.
Fantastic Leader.
Petec 10.49pm
They were pure shoite at cheating in the 80s
(Cheating is in their DNA)
Going forward the Green Brigade should consider a different strategy .
Clues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDVsprWRCQ
rascar capac
typing styleeeee.
Respect the rude Bhoys jibber jabber.
It is making things Abdul Qadir
Incredible comment by the Bankie Bhoy.
GFTB
Durrant is a weird wee bloke. Chris seems to like him, and he rates Chris. All good at Dumbarton so far apart fae the losses to Ayr and Clyde. :)
Bada 10.53pm
What time ?
I try and give the blog a miss during the week but I love Tommy Burns
Cowiebhoy on 23rd July 2017 10:53 pm
” Sorry Celtic Board to many holes in your statement ”
far too many
HH
DD 11.02pm
Both of my big brothers don’t have a bad word to say about Durrant, I didn’t ever come into contact with him but his two brothers were brilliant with me as a wee fenian 16yr old trying to get a game with the old guys, by the way my brothers didn’t bother but they knew what I was :-)
Gerryfaethebrig on 23rd July 2017 10:58 pm
Petec 10.49pm
They were pure shoite at cheating in the 80s
(Cheating is in their DNA)
………………………………………………
They didn’t exactly Perfect the Art.
As Long as you Belief in Something…. Join the Brotherhood. haha.
Christ died for Sure. He Rose again. The Haters hate this FACT.
COWIEBHOY on 23RD JULY 2017 10:53 PM
All other ground issues are fixable.
Basic logistics.
The G.B. is the persistent , ongoing problem with no indication from the GB statement that they intend to cooperate with Celtic F.C. in observing Uefa`s rules in the future.
What is the only action available to Celtic in attempting to prevent future transgressions by the G.B. against UEFA`S rules ?
What a Train to Singer
Not a bad goal tally for a Winger.
Macjay
That ‘Authoritarian Personality’ type is showing again.
Kindly refrain from aggression in your discourse.
The moderator is watching:)
TGM
My father in law took his wee terrier Sean Francis Patrick up Victoria Park every day. Trained SFP to leap and fetch a baton sized stick. After the dugs education all winter, came Sean Francis Patrick’s moment of glory in July. The orange walk was going through Scotstoun, the auld yin commanded SFP, “Fetch stick!” He fetched it right out the hand of the main stick twirler. Legend dug was Sean Francis Patrick.
MAcJay1, I disagree, there is plenty of room for negotiation and compromise in the GB statement.
Read it again, its in there, if there is a will from the PLC they can too.
The one part that isn’t negotiable is pyro, no arguement from me, it isn’t safe and has to stop.
Petec
My belief is my family
Am happy with whatever purgatory flings at me :-)
Macjay hope all is good my fellow Celtic fan
Peter Lawell – we don’t make the rules we have to abide by them
Apply the rules to all
Improper Registrations
That’s all we ask
Stripthetitles x
Whats going on?
I want to go crazy. I can’t, I’m sorry.
I listen to Religious jibber jabber All the Time.
God Bless yoyoyoyou all.
Gerryfaethebrig
We Dinnae want the Titles…
We just want them Stripped. :()
Macjay
Remember, the superiority that you display is merely symptomatic of a deeper problem.
Seek Help:)
HH
There’s not that many of them. Why dont we just line the Green Brigade up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYkbqzWVHZI
HH
Snooker again @ the Celtic Club
DD?
DD
LLf
Thats class.
Go on Sean Francis Patrick:)
HH
Mcjay
Sorry, you are totally missing my point
H&S issues were used as justification
I was one of another 60000 fans in the stadium for the pyros,
A fire alarm triggered a fire brigade response
Why was the stadium not evacuated
Did you not see Bradford ?
Petec 11.16pm
Cheats are cheats, I never want my Celtic to ever cheat
I don’t want their stinking titles
God Bless Tommy Burns
Nytol :-)
I might cry.
Just remember when you Break through. CELTIC.
Crazie Magog Magoo
I get so emotional noo.
Evening Petec :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVHc2tRserU
HH
DOC on 23RD JULY 2017 11:15 PM
MAcJay1, I disagree, there is plenty of room for negotiation and compromise in the GB statement.
Read it again, its in there, if there is a will from the PLC they can too.
The one part that isn’t negotiable is pyro, no arguement from me, it isn’t safe and has to stop.
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Why would you negotiate with a group which knows UEFA`S rules and continually and repeatedly flouts then.
And has done for years.
The standing section was a marvellous gift to the G.B.
Don`t you think ?
Would a wee bit of gratitude on their part be too much to ask ?
Obviously the answer is yes.
Pete
Hang the dj.
Aye, lets invite all cqn folk to Dumbarton Harp for gas cooker.
I will be down the Rock often this season supporting my Godson at Dumbarton FC.
Gerryfaethebrig
Strip em.
Some people want Division.
I hate knowing a Single thing.
…………………..
The Truth is, Everyone is going to Live forever.
Where?
Eternal beings we all are.
Goodnight Timland
just three more sleeps
HH
BANKIEBHOY1 on 23RD JULY 2017 5:50 PM
Careful……huns will try and exploit any opportunity. Arguably the GB made a mistake, we should not let the sleekits in to divide and conquer any further.
*I’ve been on here around 10 years or so. There are other Celtic lhists out there but I prefer this one, why? well the average contributor has at least half a brain and debates on here can be articulate but fair, but somehow the recent decision by the CFC Board tae ban the Green Brigade as well as refuse tickets for a game played in the loyalists’ cauldron of Belfast has raised a lot of hackles and caused some unpleasant accusations among our members.
Why, well advice on here at times seems tae be taken as criticism, it’s not. There are definitely hunfiltrators planting a seed of discord that some pick up on, why, obviously jealousy, but not just that, plain hatred is very evident.
In the mid 19th century when the first wave of Irish arrived in the country they landed in the most protestant and anti- Catholic country in Europe, for around 300 years the Scots had been led tae believe that Roman Catholicism was equated tae an ancient religion that was against all that their biblical beliefs, it was akin tae devil worshipping and the Catholics were analogous with cannibals in believing they could eat and drink Christ’s body and blood.
And if you think we have all moved on then stick yer heid oot the widnae on a summer’s morn, in this the 21st century, and listen tae the bile that violates yer ears.
Not only that these poor bedraggled new arrivals had also brought with them their language, food, the evil drink and culture, the only aspect of their previous life they left behind was their sport and that may have been as a result of not having the energy or the funds tae partake in it in their native land. So the quickly adopted ours, no not golf or cricket but the fledgling sport of fitba, and by God they did.
The annals of Scottish fitba indicate the game was awash with teams with the names like Hibernian, Harp, Columba and Emmett and I believe an early incarnation of the leather belts.
The greatest feat of the Catholic Irish in Scotland is not climbing the corporate ladder or accessing the higher echelons of the justice system, its Celtic Football Club.
National games are played under FIFA rules while European ones UEFA. That’s the way it is whether your Germany, Spain, Italy or England in the former or Real, Barca, Juve or lowly clubs like Progres, hunfield or sevco in the latter, it’s their game and we have tae abide by their rules, if not, then don’t play in them, it’s as simple as that. They determine the officials, seating arrangements, advertisers and ticket allocation, also nae and I mean nae political banners or songs/chants.
If they say an away team has tae have 1500 tickets, well that’s the way it is. We take their millions which betters our club so like it or lump it.
As we all know the current Champions League structure was the brainchild of raymond burr through his director/secretary (notice how he never gets his own hands durty) in an effort to increase the huns revenue stream, it would eventually turn around and bite him in the Irish language as we have majorly benefitted from the revenue handed out while his club, as a result of his voracity, mendacity and downright cheating, went breest up, not only that but as a result of this fraudulence perpetrated by the huns ogilvie lost out on the coveted position of british FIFA VP. OK he has a job right now and a good one at that but it’s just as a delegate, like lucifer his pride has well and truly been dented.
I don’t believe we have a rep right now with UEFA, the last one was probably the late David Taylor who was the joint General Secretary of UEFA and a qualified SFA coach as well, most of us on here hated him as he was seen as steptoe jr’s trooser leg in Europe, as it was later revealed not so, he later stated that the one aspect of his job was as the former CEO of the SFA he was urged by that body many times tae be an apologist for the deid teams indiscretions in Europe and as a fair and educated man he hated that.
As for Scottish football, we have always had an uphill fight but at least we had representation on the boards like Bob Kelly and the current Hibbee midfielder’s grampa, passed his hoose on the Cardross Road BTW 2 weeks ago.
Once kenneth more stacked the boards and committees with his fallen angels we have had a mountainous battle, but he is not alone in the disaster that has been perpetuated on the Scottish game, the SMSM must shoulder at least a huge percentage of the blame, I don’t for a minute believe either that it’s just succulent lamb or the finest claret, somehow the phrase “he must have pictures” comes tae mind. Quite ironic that the pastors’ son and the Parkhall provo seem tae be exempt fae that crowd, as Robert Plant was wont tae say “Ooh, it makes me wonder, it really makes me wonder”.
It looks like we are now winning with St Peter of the Heated Driveways forging his way upward and once again we will run the Scottish game, next stop Europe where we can hopefully ensure that parasites like the failed double glazing salesman’s influence is dissipated both there and at home.
We are on the one road onward and upward so let’s stick together now like auld lang syne.
I’m just Sayin’.
Whats it all about?
DD, imagine me at DFC. CRazee.
We shall See.
COWIEBHOY on 23RD JULY 2017 11:20 PM
You`re right .
I`d missed the point you were making which was perfectly valid.
Macjay
Genuine post.
We are pretty unanimous that the banners were not a wise move. Now, we have established that.
And i do understand some of the points you are making in relation to safety, flares are a no-no, that is also established.
My question is this: Why are you so determined to punish the many, rather than the few responsible?
I would also ask what is more serious: Racist and violent abuse of Celtic players, or a few banners?
HH
Glasgow soul music at its best ;-)
FRANKIE MILLER • Falling In Love With You •
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6UWuzdMw_E
HH