I don’t get the flares thing. It’s not a part of my going-to-see-Celtic tradition. But if it was my thing, I’d have the courage of my convictions, I wouldn’t hide the fact.
There are consequences of bringing flares to football games, always has been. By not having the courage to openly ignite them, those consequences are not personalised to the individuals who regard this as an integral part of what they do at a football game, they are visited upon everyone in the vicinity, as well as the club.
The problem with flares at Celtic games is those who bring them hide the fact – as they clearly know there are consequences, and presumably aren’t too interested in taking responsibility for them. ‘Keen on flares, not keen enough to stand up for them’, is why the issue persists.
I get the attraction to bright, shiny, things, but this isn’t a campaign to bring the vote to disenfranchised people against a force who will execute the offender on sight. It’s about bringing a flare to a football game. If it’s so important, do it openly. If you think Health and Safety are simply wrong, find the evidence and use it in court. Have the courage to change something. I know lots of Celtic fans who have had the courage to put their name to something they believed in, in recent years. It’s seldom easy, but it has been done.
But in the years of this debate no one has ever pointed to evidence that igniting flares in a football ground is a clever thing to do. It’s just a ‘look at me’ exercise, ‘But don’t look at my face’, of course.
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Episode 5 of ‘A Celtic State of Mind’ finds Paul John Dykes and Kevin Graham discussing a variety of topical subjects concerning Celtic Football Club, including:
* What now for the Green Brigade?
* Dedryck Boyata – Are reinforcements on route?
* Virgil van Dijk – The windfall cometh;
* Emilio Izaguirre – Moving on.
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TET
Well said wise yin. As usual.
!!BADA BING!! on 23RD JULY 2017 10:16 PM
SA- touche…:))
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Didnt think for a second it would have gone over your head :-)
HH
Delaneys
I doubt many will agree mi amigo :-)
HH
Green Man.
I wish I had some other options to suggest myself. I am as frustrated as you. Trust me.
The Green Man
You went all Lee Wallace at 7.51pm :(
Green Man
Over a beer sometime I could give you a few insights as to efforts to balance power that have been taken. It is not so easy. I certainly know the board at CFC have tried.
Tom Rogic
WOWOWOW.
The guy is Dynamite.
I’ve not seen a more skilled player.
Tom is well under the radar. He is gonnae be the talk of the Steamie soonie.
;))
DD
Delighted Chris is kicking a ball with Dumbarton hope he does well am sure your sister will be happy he is close to home
SA 22.17pm
Coles was gone when I was growing up the trip to Ekeren had the Phil Coles flag but left from “The Royal” which was latter the “Blarney Stone” SA …. I do think you try hard, I just post how I grew up
TET
You and I do. That’s all that matters mi amigo. :)
Anyway, I’m power watching deadwood so back to that for another few hits.
Burnley78, good stuff on the gin front. Glad you’ve made a massive success of it,
HH
Burnley78
This is pointless. Like i said, if you want to ‘move on’ and be under the whip hand of skint,bent,bigoted huns, go right ahead, but if you dont mind. I will stick to insisting on the sporting integrity we hear so much about.
Now, if its ok with you, ive got other people to argue with:)
Im not the saviour of Celtic, im only a humble supporter, so why you should think ive got all the solutions, ive no idea.
I have an opinion, like you, thats it.
HH
THE EXILED TIM on 23RD JULY 2017 10:16 PM
Don’t be daft, didn’t take it personally. I agree with you that the SMSM, the orcs and those of a right wing persuasion will not let it rest.
If we concentrate on what the real issues are, starting with continuing to concentrate our efforts on pushing for an independent judicial review will push them back.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
DD- agree up to a point amigo, but the banners were not where we are today, we have a mega agressive anti Celtic/Irish/Catholic press in this hellhole but IMO , we should have tried our best to aviod the trap.I think this tie could have been easily avoided.HH
GFTB
We are all delighted Chris is home in Clydebank. The Sons have been a good fit for him. Thanks pal.
For a People and a Cause @8.11
Sorry for the late reply. You’re probably right. I was just going from my really poor memory.
ACGR
We are 1 of 41 cheated clubs and the only one interested in making any representation.
All you say is noise and would be heard as such and no more. Meaningless rhetoric.
We have no more voice at the table than 1 in 41.
A proper Judicial Review can only be undertaken by aggrieved individuals and the findings are what can thrn be taken to uefa. Without that or the support of other clubs then the board are pushing in the wind if they jump up and down about cheating etc.
Boycotting grounds etc is fine but we would never hold any line in that I am sure. Making every other club our enemy is probably not the smartest anyway.
The Tim Reaper
I called on the mods to prevent the abuse of Celtic supporters from being called parasites and a cancer.
Do you have a problem with that?
Or should we all just take abuse from numpties?
Say your piece instead of carping.
HH
Platform.
Celtic.
Stage.
“what the heck you are~ are you saying there is even Better than Tom coming through”
“are you f’n Mad”?
Prayer is Powerful. Believing now… it is just.
TGM
Did wee Reynard get the rolls this morning, in his mini Celtic kit? :))
DD
I remember when he left Dundee Utd some players have to take a step back to get forward, he is now back “home” he could do an Andy Robertson :-)
Hail Hail
No problem Green Man.
I guess I come from a view that it easy to blame folk but you can actually suggest a better course of action Then better shutting up.
We all know about the cheating. I can’t see you suggesting any way of dealing with it other than blaming our board somehow for agreeing to it. Yet they are powerless to do different. That seems a daft position. But maybe I am missing something.
ACGR
Thanks for kind words re the Gin. Single Malt sometime soon. Some really great stuff if you don’t mind me saying. Pop up and see us.
I had a feeling that the Carnoustie Golfers post would be deleted, thankfully I copied it, nail on the head it was and couldn’t argue with any of it :-)
DD
The wee man is on top form, we got him a ball today:), chucked it out the back for him.
He will be skinning those washing poles like Paddy in a week:)
And not only did the wee fella go for the rolls, he left them on the doorstep because i was sleeping, knows the score:)
HH
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD on 23RD JULY 2017 10:31 PM
It was a joke ya rocket.
GFTB
He hated Dingwall. Felt lonely and isolated fae his friends and family. Mammy’s home cooking and your pals in your street makes working under Ian Durrant worthwhile. ;))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIqUarp-1jk
so true.
HH
SIONNACH ABU on 23RD JULY 2017 10:17 PM
Phil Cole’s CSC Coatbridge is still going strong, not as big now. The Pub was demolished as were the other Pubs beside it to make way for Flats. The last person to own the Pub was Tommy Burns. I helped run the Club back in the day with James Carr. Travelled to Dortmund in 1987 and Bremen in 1989 ( think that was the year).
The guy that currently runs the Club has a FB page called Phil Cole’s CSC, if you do FB.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Burnley78
You really believe the PLC are ‘powerless’ to do anything. My god, thats a poor, weak, and unlikely excuse.
For the last time. Im not Peter Lawell wtf do you expect me to do about it?
But i tell you this, if i was on the board, believe you me, id be screaming from the rooftops….unlike some who are happy to play along.
I guess thats where me and you are different.
Now, if you cant offer anything sensible, wait till the Donald comes on, im sure he will back you right up.
Get this. IM NOT PETER LAWELL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND, ARE YOU RECEIVING ME.
OVER AND OUT.
HH
I still love you though:)
Delaneys Dunky on 23rd July 2017 10:39 pm
GFTB
He hated Dingwall. Felt lonely and isolated fae his friends and family. Mammy’s home cooking and your pals in your street makes working under Ian Durrant worthwhile. ;))
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It is poignant. Dad laments the fact I didnae have Dandy’s desire to be as fit as possible… he does sub 3 hour miles now….
The amount of Time dedicated to do that is astronomical.
If Dad had me and James combined. I’d be a Neil Lennon.
TGM
You will have him buttering your rolls soon.
Very clever creatures.
Mon the foxes!
3 hour Marathons.
FFS drink is kickin’ in early.
THE TIM REAPER
Glad to hear it:)
The critics are right on my case, because i said that i should be on the board:)
Upsets some posters:)
HH
Burnley78
You seem to think that the club would be pissing in the wind if we confronted the cheats.
If the club were to come out and call a presser, call out the cheats, lay it on the line for the world to see, you honestly think we would be the losers, I truly despair.
DD 10.39pn
I hate going on holiday for over a week, Chris might flourish now he is home, by the way he is already a success and I love the fact he is happy closer to his mum :-)
Fellow Celtic fans good night and God bless and remember the GB are Celtic fans, we were all daft, some dafter than others …. roll on Wednesday.. Rosenberg
HaraldBrattakCSC
The Huns were still even cheating in the 90’s
Harold stopped their cheating 10
Gerryfaethebrig
And the 80s,
Pete
Chris has nothing but good things to say about Jim apart from he only gave him 3games in 2 years. He thinks Chris has the strongest left foot in Scottish fitba, but as a left back he needs to defend better. Offensively excellent.
Hope he learns at Dumbarton.
Goooood Evening CQN
Repeating myself here, I am not taking sides with the board and Grren brigade.
So
Did the Czech UEFA observer report an issue with The GB banners ?
The only issue in relation to fans throughout this UEFA game
If Not, who is UEFA taking guidance from on Celtic fans banners ???
Are Celtic asking this question ?
Now the boards statement, and only TET and Dessybhoy have picked up on this
Blocked passageways
The green brigade were in their area on Wed night, who was blocking the passageways ????
Lots of stories of police and Stewards, are they being questioned on this ?
What was mr Hawthorne doing, how was his organisation
Why are we paying these people when they apppear to be failing in their H &S duties ??
Now
Flares, and a fire Alarm bringing the fire brigade to our stadium
Already stated I disagree with flares
But
If a fire alarm goes of at my work, 200 + people/ staff would evacuate the building
Why was the stadium not evacuated
Who decided to put 60000 fans at risk ? Who carried out the Risk Assessment, that it was not a real risk, and forgot to cancel the fire brigade call ? Or By not evacuating when an alarm and fire brigade are called ( and I know all about red care fire call out systems)
Who are Celtic challenging on lack of thought for the other 60000 fans, outwith those letting off the flares
Sorry Celtic Board to many holes in your statement
Burnley78 – would Celtic not have the power to veto any SPFL decision not to hold a review, do they need a 2nd club now to back that call ? I heard ghee was 1 or 2 prepared to back this call ???
Oh – and whilst your talking about your business, what about Olivier Tebily :-)))
Hail Hail