In terms of pure logic, Ally McCoist was quite right to insist, “I can also assure every Rangers fan I will not be accepting any talk of stripping the club of titles. That is something we will never accept and everyone at the club shares this view.”
It is outrageous to put Sevco in the position of accepting Rangers are stripped of previous league titles while due process has not been carried out. The very fact that the SFA and SPL are negotiating with Sevco over this matter is reason enough for McCoist to issue a firm rebuttal. Quite simply, if the authorities are prepared to negotiate, their offer should be rejected until the last moment possible, at which point they will be meekly accepted.
The SFA and SPL must allow due process to take place and remove any need for Sevco to rubber-stamp a judgement on Rangers. It is wholly inappropriate to discuss or agree the consequences of a guilty verdict, or subsequent punishments (losing titles won illegally is not a punishment), until a verdict is recorded.
Due process, please, nothing more and nothing less. If Rangers didn’t illegally register players for over a decade neither they nor Sevco have anything to worry about.
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Awe Naw
I don’t switch off any competitive performance. Even the Ross County’s and the Black Sundays. I can be seen wandering the existential space between my telly and the kitchen patio doors, relentlessly pondering the notion that there are innumerable worlds and on one such world there is a beaming, happy Ulysses watching Motherwell getting tonked.
Less so when the opposite is in action.
Aye the draw (The desire, the want) of the CL is anathema to me. Often thought WGS would have done well in the UEFA cup rather than the obvious terminus in the CL – Yes I know we held AC out fur hunners of minutes.
You know and I know that the coffers have been getting looked at in respect to what has been panning out in Scottish Football – so when I recvd a text telling me Mr Lawell was expecting Exit traffic before new entrants, I knew all I needed to about our chances in the qualifiers. Because we ain’t good enough for most of Europe.
Like I said – it’s a shame. But it’s true.
Dire Domestics I’m afraid.
U
tully57,
Noel 90 claimed the venueq and as the imbargo on him crossing the Crolly Bridge is still in force, he is still banned from entering Annagry.
If our opener v Aberdeen is on the telly on the 3/4th., then I’ll be watching in Sharkey’s.
SFTB,
I saw your reply. I see you are still causing trouble.
Is it because the women’s volleyball players will be weari g boiler suits, that’s put you in a bad mood ?
Had a lovely couple of hours with Ard Macha in Leo’s, the other evening.
Jmccormack …..interesting ….!!!!……..VERY interesting…….!!!!
67heaven
he needs to boot his boss in the baws
Hail Hail
Auld Neil Lennon heid on 22 July, 2012 at 18:30 said:
Fed up explaining this in simplistic terms to Huns and English football fans.
Player negotiates with Celtic and Rangers. Celtic offer £30k pw with 40% tax deducted leaves £18k.
Rangers offer £30k, £20k in EBT, £10k taxable totals £24k.
Who does the player sign for????
I also think the Media knew about the impact of EBT years ago. Celtic must have known.
So Big Glenda was actually a golfer >Now we know !
tricoloured ribbon
I hope he has learned too.
Time will tell.
But i won’t slag him at the moment.
Fin75
Hail hail to you too my friend.
If friendlies dont matter, why do they charge to watch a professional game
hamiltontim on 22 July, 2012 at 18:29 said:
Green Bingley
Thank you.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 22 July, 2012 at 18:41 said:
Patience …… And even a wee bit of positivity..??
There are 6 weeks to go in the ‘window’ ……….. And PL is doing a fantastic job for CFC ……… Be careful what you wish for…..?
Uly
quite a few have left already but they dont count cos they were free in the first place ?
What you really mean is how much can we get for one of our better players.
Yesterday was a watershed moment for me.
I thought it was a disgrace ….. it was that bad. They should be ashamed taking money under those circumstances … anyway at least something good came out of it.
Hail HAil
67Heaven … I am Neil Lennon..!!.. Ibrox belongs to the creditors on 22 July, 2012 at 18:39 said:
My inital thought is “fudge” , no reasons to back that up, just my natural suspicions.
thomthethim
That’s good enough for me. Won’t be in Donegal until the 5th but will try and make Sean Og’s. I’ll be in touch before that, cheers.
67heaven
Peter Lawwell makes the same mistakes every year.
EVERY SINGLE FU****** YEAR WITHOUT FAIL
When is the CL qualifier ? 10 days ????
Real and Inter will annihilate us.
Great preparation for the Helsinki tie ????
Muurinen is also known for leading HJK Helsinki into the UEFA Champions League group stage in the 1998–99 season, the only time a Finnish club has managed this feat. He has also won the Finnish championship with HJK Helsinki in 1997, 2009, 2010 and 2011 as well as with FC Kuusysi in 1989 and 1991, the Finnish Cup with HJK Helsinki in 1998 and 2008, and the Finnish League Cup with FC Lahti in 2007.
Hail Hail
Sorry of posted already.
@MTHForum: Celtic Fans, be prepared to do battle again, the SFA, SPL and Sevco are about to try to do dodgy deals again behind everyone’s back.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 22 July, 2012 at 18:41 said:
How do you know his wife/partner has ???
Quite an accusation…
:-)
I want those titles……………..and I want the revenue we would have accrued on the back of them.
I want the cheats called out for what they are, and the perpetrators treated with the disdain and legal rigour they deserve.
No more BS.
I take it mark hurtley will be helping decide what trophies thems are to be stripped of as he seems to be some sort of expert in spotting tainted titles.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 22 July, 2012 at 18:54 said:
We are about to come out of an era where Scottish football clubs were cheated left, right and centre…….where we only had resistance as a weapon …… Onwards and upwards…….
Jmccormick …….. I luv your natural suspicions….. Keep them coming …..!!!
It seems no matter who is in charge, they will always be a filthy underhand club…
Controversial football agent Paul Stretford is “assisting” Rangers newco, the Ibrox club have confirmed.
Gers chief executive Charles Green is using the services of the agent, who was banned in 2008 for 18 months and fined £300,000 for a number of misconduct charges relating to how he acquired the right to represent Manchester United and England striker Wayne Rooney six years earlier. A spokesman for Rangers said: “Paul Stretford is assisting the club.” Stretford’s link with the Ibrox club is revealed as Ally McCoist prepares to bolster his squad for life in the Third Division next season. On acceptance of Scottish Football Association membership, still to be ratified, the Light Blues’ boss will have until September 1 to sign players before a 12-month transfer embargo begins. Rangers fans may wonder about Stretford’s remit given the club’s new
league status and the apparent lack of cash available at Ibrox to bring players in, but confirmation of the Englishman’s involvement comes while Green continues to challenge the decisions of the players who walked away from the club this summer.
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 22 July, 2012 at 19:00 said:
LLLLLLOOOOOOLLLLLL………!!!!!!
I don’t need anyone to argue with me, because I am going to contradict myself and disagree with myself in this one single post.
First point – all pre season games are meaningless in the long term. Only one result matters before August 1st. The Helsinki one.
Second point – by and large pre season games don’t matter because you are trying to bed three, four or perhaps even five new players into a team, so the result doesn’t matter. Celtic certainly don’t have that to account for it so far.
Ok guys I have nothing positive to say after yesterday performance.
I leave CQN until the day of the HJK Helsinki game as I have nothing positive to say about the club.
Total FUC*ING SHAMBLES as always.
HAil Hail
hen1rik
If it’s the EBTS they are referring to and they try to sweep it under the carpet I fully expect Celtic to come out with all guns blazing.Or will they?
bankiebhoy1 on 22 July, 2012 at 18:59 said:
I’m with you, bhoy …. No matter how long it takes …… They have arrogantly dragged Scottish Football through the mud with their tainted decades, and they must be held fully accountable for ignoring financial management / integrity……….
Tricoloured Ribbon on 22 July, 2012 at 19:07 said:
hen1rik
If it’s the EBTS they are referring to and they try to sweep it under the carpet I fully expect Celtic to come out with all guns blazing.Or will they?
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TBH mate I’m getting to that stage now with Scottish football that i can’t be bothered with it anymore.
Our governing body should be removed from post instead of bending the rules to suit huns.
jmccormick on 22 July, 2012 at 18:22 said:
Rangers Tax Case and BRTH getting into a discussion on Twitter about FTT, could be interesting.
Does anyone know what the crack is?
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Think its to do with the naming of the 3 man FTT tribunal
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 22 July, 2012 at 19:07 said:
With that last comment, you will not be missed. ………. Pity, since some of your posts were brilliant……
IMO , we have witnessed that lot hamstringing themselves for the next 5 seasons, minimum.
We must not allow them any slack, firstly let us get the tainted titles stripped. then we build such a compelling club structure that we will always be 5 seasons ahead.
In essence , become a true European club that would grace any future league set ups. They are coming,we just do not know when.
leftclicktic on 22 July, 2012 at 19:11 said:
Titter……!!!
Ghuys,
We should relax about these pre-season games. Football has changed over the last 20 years and Scottish football as a whole has been slow to adapt to the higher skill levels, fitness and general athletiscm. Celtic are the best example in Scotland of a team actually trying to play football in a low standard league with poor pitches and refs which allow hacking at will.
We need to be at the top of our game, with a bunch of games under our belt in order to compete against the likes of Ajax, any thing less then our general lack of skill ( comfortable with either foot) from number 1 to 11, will / can be exposed.
Our future is obviously with kids going through the academy , we need ghuys comfortable on the ball.
Short term , with a shaky defence lying deep then the whole balance of the team is knackered, this is the short term problem we need to address, in order to play a tighter game against higher standard opposition.
Ps: if not paying your tax is just short of match fixing then what is illegal player registration for 12 years?
Bankiebhoy
No doubt CFC will pursue all of the above with vigour …..aye right
canamalar
the tickets for the friendly against Inter are priced at £20. You can argue they are overpriced (I have not bought one yet) but they’d cost double that if it was a competitive Euro tie, and they’d sell out.
awe naw
I cannot think of any proffessional player who would think that being humped by Inter and Real (if that happens) will make them doubt their ability to beat Helsinki. Now, losing players to injury in those matches, that will have an effect.
We came back from pre-season humpings before, including during MON and WGS’s time. Memory plays tricks on some because we only seem to remember our wins in pre-season. A poster reminded us earlier of 6:2 and 4: 0 pre-season defeats for the MON team.
Have you discerned any positive or negative correlation between pre-season results and League & European success in this modern era, because it has escaped me?
Jeg er Neil Lennon-Greeninbingley on 22 July, 2012 at 17:43 said:
Just reading back, that was a great post Sir, thanks for sharing that.
HH
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 22 July, 2012 at 19:07 said
you are entitled to do as you feel, I have crossed keyboards with you on here and found you to be good value.
Expect to hear from you before your exile ends , there is a lot of shit to wade through before Helsinki.
Cheery, as they say out here. HH
Bankiebhoy
PFayr
The SFA will sort it all out…….. Aye right !!!….. LOL
I take pre-season friendlies as seriously as the players do and don’t go.
The main reason for them should be to get fitness, tactics and integrate new players ( centre half and striker please) to the club.
I’ll give the players from last night the benefit of the doubt, but the ball control was terrible from a number of players. A real lack of composure when pressed was a worry.
I’ve been on holiday and was told that the Huns have played a few friendlies.
Do they have a licence to play games from the SFA.
Also heard that as soon as the Huns are accepted into division 3 Lee Wallace will be sold and McCoist will do some waddling away.