On Saturday morning I opined that Hearts were a busted flush. They’d shipped 10 goals in their previous four games, failing to win any (against Hamilton, St Johnstone, Inverness and Kilmarnock). They were certainly not a team I expected to see sitting second to us this morning.
All of a sudden there’s talk of the manager leaving and players look like they are fighting to impress.
You know how this is going to turn out? Hearts, who are chasing second in the league, are after Newcastle’s assistant. Newcastle’s owner isn’t likely to be hard to deal with. If Ian Cathro gets the job, you can expect to see Newcastle’s player surplus heading north in January. And unlike the five who left Newcastle for Glasgow two years ago, Cathro will know and select each one.
Which is good, as it might give us some competition in the second half of the season. As for those gambling the family aluminium that qualification for the Europa League next season will bring in a necessary £7m?
They may eventually conclude that having one of Europe’s richest men inside the tent is a whole lot better than making an enemy of him. Just a thought.
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Good Night CQN.
Auldheid 6.31
Thanks , that was a question I had asked yesterday.
MELBOURNE MICK
MICK – Your love of family, Celtic and life shine through in your uplifting posts.
Enjoy your weekend, as I know you will.
You are a great credit to the Celtic Family.
HAIL HAIL to all Aussie Tims
67HEAVEN
From Open Floor to Open Door
Jist discovered a new game on CQN!
Start fae the bottom of the page and scroll backwards. The object is to try to work out from a poster’s answer, what the previous poster’s question was!
Easilyamused csc
WHITEDOGHUNCH -yesterday .
Thanks for the heads up re your pal Isaac and The Clove Club .
Unfortunately all booked up and therefore wont be — Curiosity saw me doing some Googling . Note Isaac used to work at The Ledbury – I have eaten there – great food – maybe your pal was there ( summer 2014)
MEDTIM @ 12 50 .
The Referendum
If it’s a yes – the euro will rise v the pound
if it’s a no — the euro will fall v the pound .
Most of the Polls suggest a victory for No but there are lots of don’t knows and many ” experts ” claim that Italian ex pats will massively Vote Yes… All very Brexit / Trump . . One more vile campaign chock full of lies , misinformation and pandering to populism .. I think NO will win – (unfortunately !)
GLENDALYSTONSILS
Amazingly it’s all interlinked. You can do that all they way to the start, like a CQN type of Darwin’s Origin of Species, or the big bang theory.
Anyway, I once did it. It took me 17 months, working 10 hour days, wore out six F5 buttons and needed 14 ad blocker program subscriptions.
Turns out the question is “Where did all the Seville money go”.
JOBO BALDIE on 1ST DECEMBER 2016 10:55 PM
Natknow –
Prices are set by The Precedent ;-)
In September we had a perfect opportunity to demonstrate our opinion of them being a new club and to charge them the same as every other visiting team, £29 I think. Instead we decide it’s not worth losing, what, £150,000 in extra gate revenue (being say 7,500 paying an extra £20 each). And that’s before the damage caused!
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HAMILTONTIM on 1ST DECEMBER 2016 10:57 PM
Natknow
That isn’t publicly known though I’m pretty positive that the two clubs have come to an arrangement.
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Cheers guys. Disappointing all the same. For lots of different reasons….
7 Players rule
Back in the day when ONE team dominating football in Scotland
was good a sort of Darwin natural selection Process if you like.
When Rangers had according to SUNDAY MAIL
3 teams
one for Scotland
one to conquer Europe and
one that blah blah blah
Anyhow a Match at ipox involving the sons and cousins
Jambos were down to 7 players are were obviously trying to get another sent off
Big Dick Gough was demanding for a change that the ref didn’t send another jambo
off
Thats my recollection and it came up in conversation with car pool member
a couple of weeks ago who was at game in GOVAN stand.
114 YEARS – THE STORY OF HIBS AND THE SCOTTISH CUP
So Sevco are keeping the lights on with promising the gullibles another “galactico” midfielder in the twilight of his career. Did they learn nothing with Kranky and the ned philosopher?
1ST DECEMBER 2016 3:13 PM
Auldheid
The outcomes of the resolutions at AGM are notified to the City of London , why is the Res 12 2013 update not mentioned and when will it be require to be notified to the City ?
I’m not familiar with the mechanics of Company Law but can ask when the meeting takes place.
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Auldheid. You’re now talking about the next ‘meeting’. When? Next week? Next month? Would this ‘meeting’ be properly constituted with an agenda, minutes, etc? Or, will it be like last week’s secret bilateral between the Celtic Secretary and BRTH where no details emerge.
And, you surely must know that there is no obligation to deal with a ‘Resolution 12’ under Company Law. ‘Resolution 12’ didn’t make it beyond the behind-closed-doors stitch-up between BRTH and Celtic plc prior to the 2013 AGM.
The RES 12 Squirrel conceived in June 2013 has already broken the record for the longest period of gestation in animal history.
The sanitised Dons’ Song Book was probably due to them having their mammies, wives, girl friends and weans with them.
How else were they going to utilise their ticket allocation?
SOUTH OF TUNIS on 2ND DECEMBER 2016 10:03 AM
WHITEDOGHUNCH -yesterday .
I now wonder who WDH is, as I also know Isaac through his sister (who admittedly I haven’t seen for a while). Small world etc etc.
NATKNOW on 2ND DECEMBER 2016 10:23 AM, HT, JB
Ticket prices reflect demand. It’s that simple.
There have been a few questions regarding the number of players required in each team to start or continue a game; this has been taken from FIFA Laws of The Game, the section that advises referees on the interpretation of the rules:
Although a match may not START if either team consists of fewer than seven players, the minimum number of players in a team required for a match to CONTINUE is left to the discretion of member associations. However, it is the opinion of the International F.A. Board that a match should not continue if there are fewer than seven players in either team.
If a team has fewer than seven players because one or more players has deliberately left the field of play, the referee is not obliged to stop the match and the advantage may be played. In such cases, the referee must not allow the match to resume after the ball has gone out of play if a team does not have the minimum number of seven players.
KTF
South Of Tunis,
Thanks for the info on the referendum.Agree with your summation.
I think the potential domino affect of a “No” vote on the wider European community hasn’t been given the media coverage it warrants.
If,eg,the 5 star alliance gains power it could potentially spell the end of the EU.
Still getting the tail end of the crazy weather you had a few days ago
Rangers legend Graeme Souness says Dave King has failed to deliver the cash injection he promised
Souness believes chairman King is paying the price now for letting them down as the Gers struggle in third place in the Premiership.
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By Keith Dangle Berry
06:00, 2 DEC 2016Updated19:54, 1 DEC 2016
Graeme Souness insists Dave King’s failure to deliver the huge cash injection he promised at Rangers is compounding the misery for suffering supporters.
The Ibrox legend always knew Gers would be trailing Old Firm rivals Celtic – who are eight points clear having played three games fewer – and says King was wrong to build up the hopes of fans without backing it up.
Souness reckons that has made the current situation worse with Rangers facing the prospect of slipping to fourth if they follow up Wednesday’s 2-0 loss to Hearts with a defeat by Aberdeen.
The 63-year-old was part of a failed bid to win the keys to Ibrox in 2012 when he joined forces with Edinburgh businessman and former Sale Sharks owner Brian Kennedy after the club had hit rock bottom. Had they been successful, Souness insists their plan was to be completely honest with the fans and believes current chairman King is paying the price now for letting them down.
Speaking before leading his own takeover last year, King said: “The minimum – if we get lucky – is £30million and we will probably need £50m. That would be to compete with Celtic.
“The Rangers strategy should be a simple thing for simple people. It is this – unfortunately every year we have to compete with Celtic. I would say I would probably have to put in £30m of the £50m over the period of time.”
Asked if he could understand a more prudent approach given what Gers have gone through, Souness said: “No, but my understanding is the chairman saying he’s going to give money is where your problem lies.
“Where the problem arises for Rangers supporters now is if the owner has come out and said he’s going to put money in and he hasn’t, then he has caused himself a problem.
“If you make promises to football supporters it makes life doubly difficult if you don’t keep them.
“Along with Brian Kennedy we were very close, we actually thought we had it.
“There was going to be a hard sell, that’s one of the things we were going to say on day one.
“This is not going to be a short or easy road, there’s a long way to get it back anywhere near where you want it to be because you can’t spend money you don’t have. That was the message we’d have put across on day one and every day we needed to say it.
“But the authorities stepped in and told us we that we were mad and that I had done enough damage already by signing Maurice Johnston, so it wasn´t permitted“
“The manager hasn’t been given any chance. They don’t have any money, that’s the bottom line.
“The lower leagues in England if you are talking about the Championship, Rangers can’t afford players in that league. I’d suggest they’d struggle to pay what’s in League Two.
“That’s where they are right now and that’s the handicap they have.
“You can’t look into a crystal ball but what you can say is if money is put on the table and you get half your signings right and with the Scottish football authorities on side then you are going to be better next time around.
“If there is no money put on the table and you are buying the same types of players and that’s your market, then you won’t improve.
“There is no coach out there that could take that group and make them into Barcelona. There’s no surprises with Rangers this season. I won two big bets this season already. Celtic winning 5-1 at Parkhead early in the season? Predictable. Rangers narrowly losing to them in the cup? Predictable.
“Hopefully they can go one better on Hogmanay when they play Celtic. Is it impossible? No. Is it likely? No. That’s reality for Rangers and their supporters.”
Souness believes now is the time for a huge reality check at Ibrox and defended Mark Warburton as pressure starts to build ahead of a huge month for the Rangers boss.
He thinks Warburton might look back on the Joey Barton bust-up and wonder if he could have handled it differently and claims the £1.8m spent on Joe Garner can’t be used as a stick to beat him
with as even I once got a signings wrong.
Souness revolutionised Scottish football when he arrived at Gers from Sampdoria 30 years ago and signed top internationals from south of the border, including England captain Terry Butcher.
And when asked about his old club’s current situation, he said: “It has been predictable, the entire Scottish game could not afford to keep up with me that is why I left for England, there will always be more money in England“
“Given where Rangers were shopping in the summer Celtic were always going to be stronger. The boss has had a lot to work with.
“He’s not been given much to work with when you are buying players from Accrington Stanley. I’m buying players from top English clubs when I’m there, it’s a million miles away from the job I had to the one today.
“I’m buying the England captain and he’s buying a different level of player altogether. There’s no manager from Fergie down who gets them all right.
“Unfortunately some have not worked out but that’s football. It doesn’t work sometimes for different reasons. You get your judgement wrong, the player can’t deal with playing at a big club.
“You’ve taken them from a smaller club where they pick and choose when to give 100 per cent and brought them to a club where you must be bang at it every game. Teams you are up against treat it as their biggest game of the season.
“None of this is a new argument but nobody gets them all right.
“Yeah, Joey Barton was a gamble but I was reassured. I shared a hotel room with him at the Euros. I hadn’t met him before, but I worked with a guy who was knowledgeable about his football, had done his homework on Rangers and never stopped asking me questions about the club. He was determined to do well.
“I was taken aback. I was expecting to meet this wildcard but he wasn’t, he was sensible, knowledgeable and desperate to do well at Rangers, I found him charming and gave him Goughie´s number.
“Without probably knowing it, he quickly realised how big a club Rangers are but it didn’t happen for him.
“I don’t know the circumstances, what was said or how it was said, so I can’t comment.
“But these things happen, not all signings work out. The manager will look back. I look back on many an occasion and wish I’d done something differently.
“Maybe Mark thinks that, you’d have to ask him. There’s always a way around a problem if you can spend. When you are young sometimes you don’t make the right customer choices.
“Joey was a great player for Burnley last year, he was arguably their best player last season. It was sensible that if you could get him for nothing to take him”
VFR800
Thanks for that post. I did the refereeing course in 87/8 – one of the guys who took it was Jimmy Duncan of Gorebridge who reffed the infamous match that saw Woods and Butcher convicted- and the course was very much based round the 17 basic rules of the game as opposed to the FIFA rules for international football . I was involved in amateur football at that time and did the course to brush up my own knowledge rather than to actually become a ref. Things like the 7 man rule were actually useful on occasion and the general opinion of the refs who talked about it were that once teams got to below 7 there was a fair amount of discretion for the ref but it was only when it got to fewer than 2 on a team that the ref had to abandon the game.
Jimbo67
Kill Ultra
Very strange goings on with the Club and the res12 guys, all very opaque and Masonic, one can only hope that the people who offered them the shares to at least get in the door and get res12 on the table are not forgotten, and kept informed, but I’m hearing they’r not, and they’r left in the dark, OFTEN, from a very good source, time will tell I suppose ? so I’ll leave it at that.
Jobo Baldie
“– the last time I was in that stadium I was in the bit of the enclosure you mentioned. It was the rain drenched 4-4 game, around 1986?”
*****
Around 1986?
It was a few weeks before Love Street, I Kidd you not!
And as we stood there in despair, having taken a 3-1 lead just after half-time, only to see them overhaul it in a blitz of goals, Murdo hit the 30 yard screamer that broke the Hearts, and got us the point without which Love Street would’ve just been another end of season game.
You could hear a squeal emerge from the Broomloan as the ball was halfway to the goal, which became an almighty roar as it hit the net, and we avoided a capitulation, albeit with 10 men, and stayed in the league race.
Last time I ever left Mordor happy. ( Shudder!).
Good piece on the future of Paddy Rodgers in CQN Magazine.
As the piece says, Brendan Rodgers will be the one who decides if he is worth what Man City would ask for him. Personally, I think he is a great player, and possibly the most skilled wide player we have; I also think he could do a great job in the same area as Tom Rogic.
I’d be delighted to see him make the move permanent!
KTF
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 2nd December 2016 11:03 am
Brilliant as ever!
KTF
VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on 2nd December 2016 11:11 am
Snodgrass on a Bosman more likely than Roberts at £5m+. Paddy has don next to nothing this season.
TONYDONNELLY67 on 2ND DECEMBER 2016 11:06 AM
Kill Ultra
Very strange goings on with the Club and the res12 guys, all very opaque and Masonic, one can only hope that the people who offered them the shares to at least get in the door and get res12 on the table are not forgotten, and kept informed, but I’m hearing they’r not, and they’r left in the dark, OFTEN, from a very good source, time will tell I suppose ? so I’ll leave it at that.
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TD
I spoke to a Celtic employee last week. Told her I had been trying to get shareholder information through the list and had not got a reply to my letter. She tried to be helpful. Asked who in particular I was looking for. I told her it was just to check and see if requisitioners held shares prior to November 2013. She said, why don’t you ask them?
commonsense csc
Aww naw
my youngest daughter and her man just landed in Germany for a 4 day break , she just phoned to tell me they are going to the St Pauli game, she knows how to enjoy herself :))))))))))
new article posted.
Glendalytonsils.
Orang Utang
Quote from The Beast during his rather incoherent ramblings:
“You can’t look into a crystal ball but what you can say is if money is put on the table and you get half your signings right and with the Scottish football authorities on side then you are going to be better next time around.”
Wonder what he means by having the Scottish Football authorities ‘on-side’? Answers on the back of a stamp!
BTW Auldheid, don’t take the bait. don’t feed the troll!
MEDTIM .
Rain was astonishing . People drowned in flash floods . Lots of livestock drowned . Houses ripped in half by the force of the water going down hill . Frightening ,
5 Star are the equivalent of adolescents doing the Ya – Boo – sucks thing . Hate everything . Big Vote Us We’re not corrupt and once elected turn out to be corrupt ( what a surprise, eh?. ) . Their European ” policy ” changes with the hour and who the audience is . Rich family boy Grillo was a professional comic – not much has changed . The absurdity of a supposedly anti establishment movement wanting to keep the dinosaur establishment in power . .
BMCUW
HUNDERBIRDS
THE BLANTYRE BHOYS
Sorry for the late reply, had to wrestle the princess there into a double
submission when i suggested another wee snifter, but in all honesty
ghuys it’s you people who are the Celtic and make us all so proud of
one another.
H.H Mick
Kill Ultra
The first meeting after AGM was about how to progress matters and the points you raise are ones we had already discussed by e mails plus a widening of the group for a number of logistical and fair presentation reasons.
Good to see we are thinking on the same lines. Your support will help us persuade Celtic it is the way to go.
If you approve I’ll try and put you in touch with someone who was present when the adjournment proposal was put to us on Skype with assurances an adjournment kept it live as is evident from the AGMs since. You will know who he is and find him a fair witness.
For someone who you think has tried to kill Res12 BRTH has put in some power of work to do so when all he had to do was drop out to have the same effect.
TD67
You can buy my shares if you want and I’m pretty sure the 100 plus shareholders/mandate signatories whose e mail address we have who received an Account of Activity on their behalf plus our Conclusions could let you know you are talking pish.
Non shareholders got the same info via CQN the weekend before the AGM.
I’ve no idea who or what is driving you but I do hope it’s just your own opinions. If it’s coming from Celtic that would be very unprofessional.
Emeraldbee
Thank you. I thought about not responding but on balance thought a reasoned reply would allow folk to make up their own minds.
There is so much much more could be said but that puts folk at risk and it’s a bit of a surprise to be honest that Celtic supporters don’t see that.
Why do people take the TD67 bait
Lads,
It’s Tingle Creek day… all of your Saturday naps on here today, please !
All of the latest results have been updated here :
http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/celtic-attack-the-ball-to-win-plaudits-if-not-points/comment-page-11/#comments
Cheers, fleagle1888
–NZ Auckland CSC–
CQN Saturday Naps Competition : WEEK 16 Standings
Unlike the SPL… it’s all change at the top of the CQN Naps table, with WWW (GBWO) now narrowly ahead of the chasing pack, after finding his seventh winner from only 16 selections… top tipping, amigo !
However, there are five other CQN Napsters breathing down his neck, and they are each only a 5/1 winner from taking the top position… interesting times ahead.
A big shout out goes to Cosy Corner Bhoy who has napped 4 winners on the bounce… good luck for your 5IAR attempt this weekend, and can he get to 10IAR ?
NAPS TABLE
+9.75 > WWW(GBWO) (7)
+9.50 > BMCUWP (3)
+7.00 > Cathal (2)
+6.50 > Cosy Corner Bhoy (5)
+4.75 > Fin 15 (3)
+4.75 > Nye Bevans RS (4)
-0.75 > Dim Sam (3)
-1.70 > Bull67 (4)
-3.00 > 16 roads (3)
-4.00 > Som mes que un club (2)
-4.00 > TheBarcaMole (1)
-5.50 > hashadenough (2)
-5.50 > twists n turns (2)
-6.50 > Graffitionthewall (2)
-7.25 > green T (3)
-7.25 > ohits (2)
-7.75 > leftclicktic (2)
-7.75 > Zihuatanejo (2)
-8.13 > Onemalloy (2)
-9.00 > Gweedore Celt (2)
-10.00 > Fastbhoy (1)
-10.68 > fleagle1888 (3)
-11.50 > Raymac (1)
-12.00 > Burgas Hoops (1)
-13.00 > Rockon (1)
-16.00 > 21-5-79 (0)
-16.00 > Angel Gabrial (0)
-16.00 > call me gerry (0)
-16.00 > Eurochamps67 (0)
-16.00 > Gerryfaethebrig (0)
-16.00 > voguepunter (0)
-16.00 > What is the Stars (0)
Cheers, fleagle1888
–NZ Auckland CSC–
Lads, my nap for today is :
Asian Handicap : Aberdeen (-1.5 goals) @6/1…
Oops, sorry… wrong sport! :)
Horsey nap : Lough Salt (13:10 Wetherby)
Cheers, fleagle1888