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More worrying than the result

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I know we had nothing up front, but Odsonne Edouard has looked more of a passenger in some games this season than Patryk Klimala and Moi Elyounoussi this afternoon.  The game was lost elsewhere.

Newco’s shape allowed them to dominate space whenever we had possession.  They were able to swiftly double up on Jeremie Frimpong and Diego Laxalt when the ball went wide, while they were compact enough in the middle of the field to keep Celtic from penetrating their final third.

Games are won and lost on mistakes and yet again we are talking about the defensive line at set pieces.  Connor Goldson’s ploy of standing offsite in the hope that a defender would break the line and play him on, was not subtle, but it was effective.  It was an excellent cross from the free kick (which wasn’t a free kick, but no excuses), Duffy was an enabler and Valarie Barkas could have done better.  Questions remain for both.

Culpability was less clear at the second goal, which was well worked.  With so many Celtic players in the box, you would expect one to get in the way of the drilled cross, but it fell to Goldson; teams who create chances get these breaks.  It was a deserved goal (again, no excuses, but the handball!).

The last time we dominated Newco was two years ago in a 1-0 win at Celtic Park when Olivier Ntcham controlled the game and scored the winner.  Stephen Gerrard learned from that day as Olivier has not had a sniff against them since.

Being ineffective up front and shaky at the back are worries enough, but the biggest concern is that we were unable to do anything to change the flow of the game.  An inability to control the any part of the game is more worrying than poor defending or not attacking.  It is more worrying than the result.

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  1. We have been playing total garbage for some time now, to deny that is head in the sand stuff, the only reason we are winning, just, is we have better players that the rest, sevco excluded for the winning, all it shows is how badly we are coached, imo of course.

     

    We are regressing at an alarming rate.

  2. JERSEYBHOYS on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 4:54 PM

     

    Has the clown resigned yet ?

     

     

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    THAT IS THE CELIC MANAGER YOUR TALKING ABOUT, A CELTIC LEGEND, YOUR A DISGRACE.

     

     

    you certainly wouldnt say it to his face.

  3. ExSlaemuirBhoy on

    Celtic club got defaced over night in Irvine, 2 sevcoites on their way to work on their new club just up the road saw the graffiti. Disgusted they went and got a power washer, all removed now. Cap doffed to them

  4. glendalystonsils on

    There you have it then . Paul agreeing , though not in so many words , that the game was lost from the dugout.

  5. EXSLAEMUIRBHOY on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 4:58 PM

     

    Celtic club got defaced over night in Irvine, 2 sevcoites on their way to work on their new club just up the road saw the graffiti. Disgusted they went and got a power washer, all removed now. Cap doffed to them

     

     

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    seems like only 38 years ago they were burning celtic taps on the washing lines

     

     

    changed days bud.

  6. peter lawell is the man we need rid off, followed by his poodle neil lennon complete overhaul

  7. celtic1member1vote on

    That’s 3 times in a row now Sevco have outplayed us .. They imploded last season, but unless they implode again this season which is highly unlikely, we are in for a long hard season.

     

     

     

    Only my opinion, but I think our squad has got progressively poorer each year since Brendan’s first season.

     

     

     

    In addition Lenny will need to seriously up his game ..

     

     

     

    I hope he can, as that was a complete and utter shambles today.

     

     

     

    This season could potentially see the Club miss out on £50 Million pounds of lost revenue.

     

     

     

    We have already missed out on £30 Million pounds of champions league money.

     

     

     

    The difference between winning and losing the league this year could be another £20 Million.

     

     

     

    Win the league and with good marketing we would bring in an extra £10 Million in merchandise sales etc. with 10 In A Row.

     

     

     

    Lose the league and we kiss goodbye to an extra £10 Million in merchandising, and also then factor in a drop off in Season Ticket sales of at least £10 Million as well.

     

     

     

    With so much at stake this year it begs the question again, do we really have the best suitably qualified people running our Club both on and off the park.

     

     

     

    Well this season will answer all these questions.

  8. JERSEYBHOYS on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 4:54 PM

     

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    World War Two Enemy aliens, people born in a country with which Britain was at war, were restricted from entering Britain without a permit. Accordingly, a few of Jewish faith became trapped in Jersey when the islands were occupied. In addition, a few locals decided to remain in Jersey rather than evacuate in June 1940.

     

    Sprekenzie Deutch Jerseybhoys?

  9. Bizarre that Celtic fans call into a Radio show to try and convince two ex Rangers players and an Anti Celtic journalist that Neil Lennon should loose his job.

  10. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Pains me to say it but Lenny won’t win us the league this season. He seems disengaged. And if our players aren’t up to it, why not? He has every advantage over the opposition. Why can’t we lay a glove on the huns match after match? Because they have a much better manager and coaching team? I think so.

  11. JAMES FORREST on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 3:50 PM

     

     

    WESTCRAIGS:

     

     

    The Celtic board gave this manager £16 million plus to spend in the last window. Peter Lawwell did not instruct the players today to play a rigid system that mean nobody challenged for a ball if they weren’t within 6 yards of it. Dermot Desmond did not make like-for-like substitutions at 2-0 down.

     

    Those guys did, however, hire Neil Lennon without interviewing or even considering another candidate.

     

    The blame stretches in many directions … but the guy in the dugout today was responsible for that shambles. If you want to question his hiring, that’s a different issue … but this one’s on him.

     

     

    James F

     

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    I couldn’t agree more with what you posted at 3.50pm. he was the manager today and the blame falls squarely on Lennons shoulders,He picked the team and is wholly responsible for the shambles for today.

     

     

    Another thing that could be responsible is the slagging off the players on the blog, do you think that any of the players don’t read the blog, you can rest assured that some will read it and pass on your remarks to others,This blog has gone down hill because so called Supporters slagging of most of the team these days,

     

    For god sake grow up, and keep your slagging to your self.

  12. The Blogger Formerly Known As GM on

    So why were we unable to change the flow of the game or control it?

     

     

    I’d never heard of Shane Duffy before he joined. I’m beginning to wonder what all the hype and fanfare was about.

  13. but the biggest concern is that we were unable to do anything to change the flow of the game

     

     

    so Paul the reason for the defeat came from with the lack of tactics/coaching knowledgefrom the dugout.

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  15. onenightinlisbon on

    Slagging off players on the blog could affect how they play on a saturday? Get a grip…

  16. NO BOBBY DOES IT PETTA on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 3:07 PM

     

     

    As bad as today was, it will be another level of meltdown if we don’t win at Pittodrie.

     

     

    *just in fae walking the dug bailing oot on the full time whistle, nice wee forest close by so walking through it with the only sounds being the leafs falling I thought “I hope this isnae a repeat of season 74/75.

     

     

    We had lost the first game tae them in a petulant tussle with Brogie being red carded. The mitb that day was j p gordon and the jp didnae stand for John Paul either. He and his linesmen were given their harry potters 4 years later for accepting “gifts” fae AC Milan in a must win game, which they did 3-0.

     

     

    Some of you may recall him from the game at hades where Joe Craig was fouled in the penalty box and with the players surrounding the trooser lifter the huns broke away with their greatest living thug scoring while in an offside position. I believe Jock had tae tell Neilly tae calm down the players as they were ready for walking off.

     

     

    Anyway, by New Year 1975 we had won the LC and were top of the League courtesy of deidco losing at broomfield while we were beating St Johnstone 4 days before Christmas.

     

     

    That derby game on January 4, I have often spoken about, we lost 0-3 in a bizarre game in which Paul Wilson ran riot but unfortunately our forwards had left their shooting boots in the dressing room.

     

     

    They scored with their only 3 shots on goal and Ally Hunter left the field with his shorts as clean as when he went on even though it was stoatin doon all day and they had been watering the pitch during the week leading up tae it in an effort tae slow us down.

     

     

    They went on top on goal average that night but IMHO that wasn’t the game that cost us the League. That was the following week at home tae ‘Well when we lost 2-3.

     

     

    So with that in mind as I walked through the forest Pittodrie was all I could think of.

     

     

    That same season though we won 3 trophies, Dryborough, League and Scottish Cups. Deidco in their quest for TIAR won Sweet FA and that could possibly be put down tae naesurname being put on his notice as early as October that season.

     

     

    So those out there wishing and hoping and praying Lenny gets the tin tack be very careful what you wish for.

     

     

    Also if he does go it shouldnae be MON that gets the call, Black Sunday is still a painful memory. If we are going short term until a decent replacement is found how about WGS.

  17. From the first minute, the players’ body language, lack of application and fight, failure to quickly challenge or tackle, and absence of communication, gave me a feeling of impending doom.

     

     

    By not making any changes at halftime, our manager compounded the fiasco. The situation looked ominous before they scored the second, and then it was far too late. We were outcoached and outmanaged, and this bankrupt zombie club have owned us in every game since (and including) the Forster League Cup Final. Why are we so complacent, and why are we not learning from these experiences and changing our tactics? Very, very disappointed in Neil Lennon today.

  18. onenightinlisbon on

    Lennon has proved time after time that he doesn’t learn. Always someone else’s fault.

  19. glendalystonsils on

    TONTINE TIM

     

     

    WGS would be a very good shout . I had the same thought. Perhaps working with Lenny rather than replacing him?

  20. ExSlaemuirBhoy on

    Saint Stivs,

     

     

    I had flashbacks of the garages as revenge, no need now . To old for that shit

  21. Go tell the Spartim on

    Whilst Pochetino would be great, let’s be realistic, Eddie Howe isn’t doing anything is he?

  22. GLENDALYSTONSILS

     

     

    Not sure that’d work. It’s undermining Lennon.

     

     

    Either he’s the manager or he’s not.

  23. 67 European Cup Winners on

    SAINT STIVS on 17TH OCTOBER 2020 4:11 PM

     

     

    If you are enjoying it I have no problem

     

    Games played – we have won by 1 goal or drawn/lost

     

    Same period as you put up earlier

     

     

    7 Aug Cluj 1-1

     

    13 Aug Cluj 3-4

     

    17 Aug Dunfermline 2-1

     

    29 Aug AIK 1-4

     

    14 Sept Hamilton 1-0

     

    28 Sept Hibs 1-1

     

    6 Oct Livingstone 0-2

     

    4 Dec Hamilton 2-1

     

    21 Dec Aberdeen 2-1

     

    26 Dec St Mirren 2-1

     

    29 Dec Huns 1-2

     

    18 Jan Partick Thistle 2-1

     

    16 Feb Aberdeen 2-1

     

    20 Feb Copenhagen 1-1

     

    27 Feb Copenhagen 1-3

     

    1 Mar St Johnstone 1-1

     

    4 Mar Livingston 2-2

     

    9 Aug Kilmarnock 1-1

     

    22 Aug Dundee Utd 1-0

     

    26 Aug Ferncvaros 1-2

     

    16 Sep St Mirren 2-1

     

    19 Sept Livingstone 3-2

     

    17 Oct Huns 0-2

     

     

    You may want to argue a win is a win

     

    But the richest/best, however you describe us have not been dominating the league for over a year

     

    I respect your view and as a Celtic supporter I have no desire to argue

     

    BUT don’t listen to me – look at the facts

     

     

    67ECW

  24. The Battered Bunnet on

    With zero shots on target (at home, mind) they could have played Nicola Sturgeon as goalkeeper and still have won.

     

     

    The startling inability to create chances is the recurring pattern of the season so far for us.

     

     

    Folk will shout at the board, but we should recognise that no first team player was sold this summer, and Lenny has been allowed to bring in a number of internationalists in key positions. At face value, the champion team has a stronger squad this season than last.

     

     

    Regrettably, despite 10 long months to figure out why his team can’t compete with Sevco’s selling platers, and with £15M of new talent signed (plus 3 loanees), Lenny hasn’t been able to find an answer.

     

     

    For me, this was a test of his professional ability, and while I sympathise with the challenges presented by the loss of Edouard (and to a lesser extent Christie and Forrest), Lenny didn’t pass it. That’s where I’m at.

     

     

    I’ll also raise a concern that his key defensive signing – Duffy – looks increasingly like a serious error of judgement with each passing game.

     

     

    BTW, if young Welsh’s family are looking in, your bhoy done great. He’ll be gutted to lose, but you should be proud of his performance. A fine player in the making.

  25. Oldtim67.

     

    I am responding to your response to James forrest’s response to my post.

     

    If neil lennon is not up to this job who is to blame?

     

    The buck stops with lawwell because he hired him.

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