Although Rangers won their case at the Court of Session today, they have the option not to serve the ruling on the SFA that its Judicial Panel’s 12 month ban on player registration is illegal. Winning the point in law might sound like a victory, but taking the Association to court breaks membership rules of the SFA, rules imposed on all associations by Fifa.
We will find out soon enough the reach of SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, who was one of the recipients of an EBT which precipitated Rangers crisis.
Rangers are deep in Sion territory now. Either they walk away from this showdown, the SFA expel or suspend them from football, or Fifa will shortly remind the SFA of their duties when a member club takes action in the civil courts.
Campbell Ogilvie was born for this moment; it justifies him holding onto his position all these months despite being “heavily conflicted”, according to his chief executive. I do not expect this to end well.
Despite an independent judicial panel ruling against Rangers, there is no way the office holders at the SFA will expel Rangers, no matter what they do. They would rather jeopardise the Scotland national team and every other club’s European participation.
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Starry plough
The link didn’t work.
(:-(
TT
The issue of New Club is not without gravity.
How do we protect the integrity of society if we do not have fairness & justice?
Football can lead the way with its own lantern of moral hope…to make Scotland a better nation.
We need to say no to the abomination.
Gregory Ioannidis @LawTop20
Thank you to BBC Newsnight Scotland for the interview. It will be shown tonight at 22:30 UK time.
Knight Bhoys
TinyTim on 29 May, 2012 at 21:46 said:
Rangers fan “who cares”on a fitbaw blog says ” I am a rangers fan I don’t mind us going to SFL 3 and starting again” all magnanimous and so
Stranraer fan ” I’m a Stranraer fan and your not wanted there either”
Made me giggle..
Jail the lotta them I say!
I hope Barcabhob doesn’t mind me copying and pasting this, from RTC.
Barcabhoy says:
29/05/2012 at 8:29 pm
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Paulie Walnuts says:
29/05/2012 at 8:10 pm
Paulie,
Would the SFA not bring themselves into conflict with FIFA by appealing todays verdict. I understand FIFA does not allow clubs to legally challenge associations. The converse is FIFA expect National Associations to deal with clubs using FIFA’s own rules.
Wouldn’t that preclude an appeal by the SFA, with the only route available being FIFA/SFA internal rules
For anyone asking, the “nuclear” news is that Souness received much more than £30 K , and more than a single loan payment. On its own it doesn’t seem nuclear, however i would ask everyone to apply an element of logical progression to that news. There is more to come, and for clarity there is no evidence i know of relating to bribing officials, match fixing, or bank misbehavior .
Nuclear is a fairly straightforward matter. Rangers supporters, Scottish football administrators, and the legal authorities in Scotland deserve to know why he received this money a decade after leaving Rangers’ employment?
Why were Rangers putting significant amounts into an EBT scheme on behalf of an ex employee. Is there anything that the authorities should be concerned about. Should there be an innocent explanation it should be put into the public domain.
Remember a loan has to be requested by the employee or ex employee. What made Souness think that he could request a loan from an ex employer when he was at the time one of the highest paid people in the UK. What were the repayment terms? has he repaid ? or has the loan period conveniently been extended by the Trustees to avoid triggering a repayment ?
Barcabhoy even, apologies.
Tiny Tim,
delete the ” from the end of the link in the address bar then try it again.
Hail Hail
ballabhoy
Spiers doesnt know his arse from his elbow
HH
Oops …….good night, Bhoys ….LOL …… Had to work into the early hours this morning and, as witnessed by the quality of my posts, wee bit tired now
Starry/Ballabhoy
(;-)
thank’s.
TT
Re.todays CVA
Surely a proposal for a CVA cannot be funded using money which today has been declared as a loan that rankers have to pay back.
This doesnt seem ethical – paying debt with debt!
Sound just like a Ticketus deal Part2?
pulltheplug!
HH
SilverCity
I was wrong to call Barcabhoy in that way. Well out of order.
Sixteen Roads
“Until such times as he pledges his future to the club,he shall remain to be of little consequence.He is either with us or against us.
The same cannot be said of Samaras. ”
All true in its own way but CU judging the POTY for 2011/12 not for next year. FF should have been rated higher but, since CU did not include him in the top 10 in season 2010/11, we should be grateful they acknowledged him at all.
Tiny Tim
The Green Shyster Group master plan for Rangers to be debt free and continue as a Player Trading club seems, to me, to have one major flaw.
How, on the reduced wages they will be forced to pay, will they attract players of the calibre that will attract big fees?
It would be like the early parsimonious days of the 90s when Fergus was trying to nurse us back to health, We could try selling Whittle, Holt, Muggleton & Biggins to the EPL but we’d attract more laughs than money.
EDB,
I thought there was a touch of the canamalars about that post :0)
Graham Spiers @GrahamSpiers
@JimDelahunt I agree, there is a real danger of that, Jim. This could end up being the ultimate Rangers disaster.
Let’s hope so Brittney…
I can’t believe D&P haven’t paid NI and PAYE on R(IA) since February 14. Seriously.
I am now beginning to think they are doing everything they can do jump off a cliff because there’s still some serious stuff to be revealed. Kill us now, cos you won’t believe the rest.
For the habitual observer of this whole hun fiasco it seems like walking into a theatre of mirrors where karma is reflected endlessly wherever you look.
Bundoran Bhoy – Saying NO to Newco!! on 29 May, 2012 at 21:35 said:
What happens now with badges, I asked for one..Who and how do I pay?
Bleacher Report on today’s shenanigans:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1200816-ranger-fc-a-dying-club-determined-to-take-scottish-soccer-down-with-it
mic1888 says no to cheats charter no to zombie r*****s on 29 May, 2012 at 22:03 said:
Drop me an email to confirm order
HH
canamalar
Caught me:o)
TinyTim on 29 May, 2012 at 21:42:
Liquidation arguably may not provide the creditors with more money than a CVA. Personally I think liquidation could realise more money for creditors, especially for HMRC and Ticketus.
When they are liquidated they will limp along, they will have no money to invest in quality players. Yes, they may well sell some players but will the buying Club be able to pay up front or will they pay in instalments as most do.
Tell you the beauty of liquidation, everybody gets to pour over the books every last creditor. Think of what HMRC could learn alone, how many other investigations could begin…
A CVA (Chances Very Acute) closes the books, no more access.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
Away to watch a film wae the missus.
Peace One & All.
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on 29 May, 2012 at 21:51 said:
Spiers doesnt know his arse from his elbow
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He knows that he doesn’t talk out his elbow!!
fanadpatriot on 29 May, 2012 at 20:08 said: ……………..
I have to say that I resent your intrusion into my altruistic offer to assist Old Tim with his surplus & endangered wine stock.
I can only assume that your brain was softened earlier in life with visits to the bright lights & debauchery of Kerrykeel & Port Salon. ( Hughie Shiels has a lot to answer for,.. corrupting you country boys.)
You just leave me to attend to Old Tim’s problem.
EDB,
Out and about in partick tomorrow, up for a beer?
Bundoran Bhoy – Saying NO to Newco!! on 29 May, 2012 at 22:06 said:
You got mail buddy
See you all tomorrow Celts..
Keep The Faith..
Aw Naw
Too late my friend. I’ll tell you stories about cutting and pasting one day.
Think decorating and me ending up in the eye infirmary in Glasgow.
After reading the bleacher report why are the SPL trying to bend the rules, a newco can’t get a licence plain and simples.
Invercelt on 29 May, 2012 at 21:41 said:
You are indeed correct sir.As with regards to the German armies being out-numbered – i totally agree that in the grand scheme of things,this folly was of their leadership’s own making – what i should have made clear,is that i was referring to many individual battles,particularly on the Eastern Front,where in terms of manpower,planes and equipment,the odds were as much as 20:1 against them,yet they still somehow managed repel their enemy,and even make military gains.
As for casualties inflicted,and indeed sustained – The Anglo-American numbers were indeed trivial in comparison.Something like 80% of the deaths in that war occurred on the Eastern front.If anybody can take most credit for defeating the Nazis,then surely that credit must go to the Communists? The films would have one believe something entirely different than to that fact.
Also the Allied bombing of German cities such as Dresden,long after the Nazis were no longer deemed to be a threat,was both evil and horrific.What shocked me most about these war crimes,was the fact that after they hit these civilian areas,they returned to hit them again,an hour later when the rescue teams were trying to remove the dead and injured.And not only did they drop countless tons of explosives,they also added tons incendiary devices to the mix.
St Michaels’ Bhoy2
That Bleacher Report article has been liquidated…?
Lads i tried to access that bleacher report again there and got this message.
It seems like this page does not exist or is no longer available. We’ll be redirecting you to the Bleacher Report homepage in 10 seconds.
Any idea ?
IS THIS BULL ABOUT THE SFA ..TRUE
words fail me if that is the case then the whole sfa board must be sacked ……..starting with .Regan
the wrong rules used …tell me this is a wind up by der hun
Was it my imagination or did someone say on telly that if this all went to plan, the hun would exit administration on the 12th of July?
That would be the ultimate boot in the haw maws.
Surely the good Lord would not allow that to happen.
ggh
setting free the bears on 29 May, 2012 at 21:54 said:
Good point,well made.