Although Rangers won their case at the Court of Session today, they have the option not to serve the ruling on the SFA that its Judicial Panel’s 12 month ban on player registration is illegal. Winning the point in law might sound like a victory, but taking the Association to court breaks membership rules of the SFA, rules imposed on all associations by Fifa.
We will find out soon enough the reach of SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, who was one of the recipients of an EBT which precipitated Rangers crisis.
Rangers are deep in Sion territory now. Either they walk away from this showdown, the SFA expel or suspend them from football, or Fifa will shortly remind the SFA of their duties when a member club takes action in the civil courts.
Campbell Ogilvie was born for this moment; it justifies him holding onto his position all these months despite being “heavily conflicted”, according to his chief executive. I do not expect this to end well.
Despite an independent judicial panel ruling against Rangers, there is no way the office holders at the SFA will expel Rangers, no matter what they do. They would rather jeopardise the Scotland national team and every other club’s European participation.
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2 lions walking down Princes St and one said to the other.Quiet for a Saturday eh?
My celebrity choice to open the new state of the art landfill site in glasgow would be Hately with burley handing him the scissors
Confused (and off to bed so might not see the answer)
Today’s judge did NOT change the disciplinary panel’s sentence. Just the appeal hearing’s.
What is the significance, if any, of that?
Is he saying the appeal panel should have upped the sentence for them having had the temerity to appeal without grounds? Or is it all just something and nothing?
Aaaah…… The Bilderbergers….. aaah,The Masons ……..it’s sooooo heartening to know these people gather to consider how to slice us all into smaller pieces for their savage machinery to devour.
How do we contrive to let these types get away with it?
Gordon_J
Indeed. Reading his tweets, I think he’s reluctant to hog any limelight, so happy to appear but not as ‘tweeter’ etc – he’s a mainstay on FF too. You’d have thought ‘fan’ would have done. Many have touted him as fans’ rep on a new board.
Tom Mc…,
from Celtic Research today
CelticResearch@CelticResearch
The CAS could not intervene prior to the 2011 rewriting of the SFA articles and cannot now. This is not their (cont) http://tl.gd/hk3m7k
The link led to
The CAS could not intervene prior to the 2011 rewriting of the SFA articles and cannot now. This is not their jurisdiction.
The CAS does not deal with cases where this independent appeal body is in place. Rangers have exhausted this route.
FIFA statutes Articles 62-64
“3 CAS, however, does not deal with appeals arising from:
(a) violations of the Laws of the Game;
(b) suspensions of up to four matches or up to three months (with the exception of doping decisions);
(c) decisions against which an appeal to an independent and duly constituted arbitration tribunal recognised under the rules of an Association or Confederation may be made”
canamalar –
Thanks for that. So the reason Rangers did not go to CAS was nothing to do with the SFA not recognising them, which is what I read on CQN.
Another thing. Duff & Phelps are quoted in a newspaper as being “unaware” that going to the CoS was against FIFA regulations. I refuse to believe that. At least I refuse to believe that nobody at Ibrox or in the media advised them that this was the case before going to court.
They are lying when they say they did not know. Which means they knowingly went to the CoS, fully aware of the likely consequences of doing so, therefore it was a tactical move in the hope of forcing the SFA to bring the club down, to do their dirty work for them.
Citibhoy Shoulder to Shoulder with Neil Lennon on 29 May, 2012 at 22:46 said:
It’s all about opinions muchacho,I am just going on what i have read,other,alternative views.
I will give you this though – history is written by the winner.
rimtimtim on 29 May, 2012 at 22:42 said:
By the way Third Lanark was the shortened version of Third Lanarkshire Rifle Volunteers.
I´m glad that we got shot of them as well.
_______________________________
SMACK! :-)
My Dad served with them (Royal Corps of Signals) and spent 4 years in a Japanese POW Camp.
Saw one of my earliest League Games at Cathkin – Third Lanark 3 Celtic 4.
Plus – I used to deliver Bobby Evans messages (part-time schoolboy job).
setting free the bears on 29 May, 2012 at 22:44:
Shhhh . . . you’ve said to much.
Just don’t mention their executive group, namely Mr Abie, Davie Dodds, the toothless lotterywinner michael carroll, craig whyte’s da, Mr Custard the clown and Filip Sebo.
These are the cunning masterminds behind it all. . . . .
Jude, yes Wee Oscar made it home.
https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23HesNotShy
http://twitter.com/Wee_Oscar/status/207499225519505408/photo/1
Sffs
I wonder if the President of the Scottish Football Association has reported details of the court action by one of the member clubs to Fifa.
I wonder if Fifa expect all cases of clubs taking court action against an Association to be reported to them or if they expect individual Associations to deal with the offending club accordingly.
macjay1 for Neil Lennon on 29 May, 2012 at 22:47 said:
I was not aware of Stalin being responsible for Dresden.
All that i am trying to do is learn.
Thank you for that information.
Mikel owens no ta!!
Seven Fishes Four Steaks on 29 May, 2012 at 22:54 said:
BRILLIANT NEWS MATE, CHEERS!!!!!
I had texted knoxy but hes obviously a busy bhoy
HH
The Good Ship Celtica. on 29 May, 2012 at 22:46 said:
Seen the series mate.I enjoyed watching them.
Just watched the unmasked Archie McPherson. A cornered wounded rat sprung to mind as I watched him. Just another in a long line who say they deserve punishment but fail to come up with one. I couldn’t believe it when I heard him saying “They’re hurting badly, they can no longer sign the cream of Europe.”
FFS
praecepta on 29 May, 2012 at 22:54 said:
rimtimtim on 29 May, 2012 at 22:42 said:
By the way Third Lanark was the shortened version of Third Lanarkshire Rifle Volunteers.
I´m glad that we got shot of them as well.
_______________________________
SMACK! :-)
Praecepta I didn’t feel comfortable with rimtimtim’s comments either,
I probably would have thought like that as a youngster but as an older and wiser Bhoy (and my granda being a pow during the second world war) people should remember that war was fought for freedom.Unlike the wars fought by the Brits since then .
TAL
It cracks me up every time a poster finishes his comment with . . .
hmmmmmmmmm
or even better . . .
mmmmmmmmmm
It never fails to implant an image in my mind of the poster delivering the sound in the style of Larry Grayson.
:~)
I hate war. Never understood it. Since the formation of the nation-state, wars and the technology that drives them has advanced at a frightening rate.
WW1 …..WW2….The Cold War….countless proxy wars…The War on Terror…The War on Drugs.
General George Patton said : “War is hell…”
It’s also legalised murder.
If politicians had to go into the field of battle,you’d see a lot more talking before the violence started. Our politicians are all cowards.
They are of a type.
The kind that mans the sfa.
They get some other mug to do their dirty work.
They’ll capitulate over RFCia because they are cowards and they’ve run out of cannon fodder.
If not,then I will return and eat this post in public.
Hail! Hail!
What?Meacynic? csc
Why is Neil Patey and this clown on BBC newsnight saying HMRC will agree to a CVA.
Tom Mc…..,
if you remember back to the lost appeal it was the fighting fuds that screamed for the decision to be challenged in court, they also paid for the legal fee’s.
We know they will blame D&P
They knew the ull ramifications of taking the sfa to court
I believe this is a deliberate ploy by them to try and destroy scottish football
D&P are IMO very afraid of the threats and intimidation.
Reilly
Where did you watch it?
Guys can someone explain this to me.
Newsnight have just stated that the CVA has put up circa 9p in the pound and that this is the best deal on offer as the liquidation option would have less than a penny in pound available. Therefore no brainier CVA has to be accepted as makes business sense.
Now, given tHe CVA is putting up £5m to offer to creditors yet Newsnight states that assets owned by the club are valued at £100m?
Why would HMRC and Ticketus not just liquidate them and take a share of the £100m assets??
Apologies if I am totally missing the point here but can anyone clarify for me?
Hail! Hail!
C.O. is myopic…he sees little. He needs reminding that justice is blind. So,myopia is no excuse for doing nothing. And turning a blind eye is not justice,either.
It is cowardice and pandering to [alleged] criminals who masquerade as a football club.
Morning bhoys, still warm, but as ever hun free.
So things are cranked up a notch or two.
Stick or twist time for the sfa.
What are the scenarios that we could be facing ?
In all honesty far too many to mention,doing my head in, the brotherhood will be working at full tilt as we speak, they will have their work cut out now, but somehow, there will be a deal done, I would stake my life on that.
estorilbhoy on 29 May, 2012 at 23:10 said:
>>>
They are talking keech.
When you hear these buffoons spouting their voodoo economics and legalese you have to remember “nuspeak” and “doublethink” from George Orwell’s ‘1984’.
ftsfa
Black & tan maybe??
btw…ate the grand young age of 61 I have contracted chickenpox…can you believe it? I can tell you,it makes you feel ropey…I blame RFCia….
Wee guy on telly speaking without fear or favour!
Tom McLaughlin on 29 May, 2012 at 23:06 said:
Pmsl.
Think that hmmmmmmmmmmm means that you are thinking something,or that you are cynical about something somebody has said,like a polite way of saying the person is full of Craig Whyte – the Americans do it when they say “with respect”.
mmmmmmmmmmmmm – i reckon is if you are looking at some tasty food that wish to devour,like a big bowl of jelly and ice-cream.
I could well be wrong though,i usually am.
That Greek guy is good!! The sh*t pit is getting deeper!!
jude2005 is Neil Lennon \o/ on 29 May, 2012 at 23:16 said:
ftsfa
Black & tan maybe??
Jude can you expand on the black and tans comment please
What sort of eejits did Newsnight Scotland have on for the first story??? The woman was entirely out of her depth and the man in London seemed to have got his briefing from a copy of the Daily Record . The only one with any sense was the sports lawyer.
“A done deal”. What a joke (at least it better be, if they want Celtic anywhere near SPL)
There’s always a Bobsong..
For The HUNS..
“…Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul
And I hope that you die
And your death’ll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand o’er your grave
’Til I’m sure that you’re dead…”
HisBobnessCSC
Debt collection “expert” on newsnight scotland states that if the big tax case goes against rangers then the pence in the pound deal would be severely diminished, to such an extent that it could, in fact, end up being negative!!
So……the creditors would owe rangers money?! Best financial minds in the country.
did Craig Whyte get a mention today at all !?
The Comfortable Collective-Sorry for posting about football :}.Might be Craig Gordon,hoping it’s not Heskey :{ .Saha ? possibly too rich for us.HH.