Although Rangers won their case at the Court of Session today, they have the option not to serve the ruling on the SFA that its Judicial Panel’s 12 month ban on player registration is illegal. Winning the point in law might sound like a victory, but taking the Association to court breaks membership rules of the SFA, rules imposed on all associations by Fifa.
We will find out soon enough the reach of SFA president, Campbell Ogilvie, who was one of the recipients of an EBT which precipitated Rangers crisis.
Rangers are deep in Sion territory now. Either they walk away from this showdown, the SFA expel or suspend them from football, or Fifa will shortly remind the SFA of their duties when a member club takes action in the civil courts.
Campbell Ogilvie was born for this moment; it justifies him holding onto his position all these months despite being “heavily conflicted”, according to his chief executive. I do not expect this to end well.
Despite an independent judicial panel ruling against Rangers, there is no way the office holders at the SFA will expel Rangers, no matter what they do. They would rather jeopardise the Scotland national team and every other club’s European participation.
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canamalar
Wish I could but work prevails.
I’d love to meet up with you cos you really annoy me at times but I reckon you’re likely to be a great guy to have a beer with. Reminds me of me:o)
Invercelt 21.41
What this underlines is that the Allies were perfectly well aware of the religious and cultural significance of the Monastery at Monte Cassino and made strenuous efforts to avoid damage to the ancient structure.Their initial efforts were unsuccessful and resulted in a huge number of casualties.Only then was the decision taken to use bombers.
The Germans were also aware and cynically employed the Monastery as the lynchpin of the their defensive line,the Gustav line .That they were aware is proved by their removal of ancient religious artifacts from the building for safe keeping.
This is not a bad account of the first phase.
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/first_battle_monte_cassino.htm
BOB on 29 May, 2012 at 22:17 said:
Don’t think so.
Article 95 allows for ‘any other penalty, condition or sanction as the Juducial Panel considers appropriate’.
Don’t understand why SFA didn’t argue this point or why, if they did, CoS chose to ignore it.
GGH
Yep that’s the rumour!!
Sixteen Roads @ 22.14,
Again, mostly agree: will split the hairs tomorrow.
Much consternation on the blog tonight.
RFCiA are now deep….. deep…… in the Vortex!
Within the next 2-3 weeks they may well arrive at the Eye-of-the-Storm …….. from which few if any ever survive (unlike the movies).
1872 will not kick a professional football this coming season!
I admit to not being an expert – but how can a CVA work if they don’t now how much they can offer because it depends on them winning a litigation case? Who in their right mind can vote for something that they don’t know how much its worth and when they will be in aposition to pay.I think someone on here needs to come up with an alternative suggestion as to what we now call the CVA!!!
Some legal expert with knowledge of european sport law is on BBC2 newsnight scotland at 11.00. Trailer on BBC radio suggest he thinks RFC(IA) have just made a huge mistake by going to COS today. HH
The Lord God truly works in mysterious ways- what other way is there for a Divine Being to act?
12th of July. You bet.
He- of which nothing greater can be conceived- has a wicked sense of humour.
Anybody else think that were the boot on the other foot we might not be still trading, proposing an 8p in the pound ‘deal’ for assets previously valued at over £100 million but now only worth £5 million and in the context of unpaod millions in tax and dual contracts
praecepta
That is a distinct possibility.
TT
Invercelt on 29 May, 2012 at 22:24 said:
Not a bother chief.Thank you for the discussion,and thanks also for educating me with regards to one or two issues.
A wee theoretical question or two; if a club is expelled from the SPL and therefore cannot play in the SPL, does it cease to be an SPL member? And if it does, what happens to its share? Especially if there is no handy newco to transfer it to?
No?
Me either…
Lads any chance of trying that bleacher report cos it ain’t working at this end.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1200816-ranger-fc-a-dying-club-determined-to-take-scottish-soccer-down-with-it
Well,y’know,it’s like decent law abidin’ fholks trapped in a lawless territoree,jes’ waitin’ fur the marshals to rahd in from sum other place in order to put these here vigilantes in thur place. Ah mean,it surely is 1812 and we are in parlous need fer sum advancement.
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Apologies for the lawless West anaology,but I’m deep into ‘Deadwood’,and everything I see nowadays seems to have a counterpart in the saga of Scum F.C.ia
HH!
No sign of ‘nuclear’ fallout yet?
Starryhope
Celtic_First @ 21:09,
That’s an interesting point, yesterday on Bloomberg TV’s Ticker it ran a piece that – FIFA were trying to stop the UK’s control of World Football – I didn’t get it and could not veify it on t’internet.
Is that what it’s about?
I did not know the UK had so much power, won’t it be interesting if England’s arrogance over the WC Finals and RFC’s Hubris over the Divine right of Gers have destroyed this Historic right.
Hail! Hail!
I see the Bilderberg Group are having their annual get together in Virginia, starting this Thursday.
If anyone knows anyone who is attending, can you please have a word and ask them to get the group to help with the pushing of the huns over the edge.
Someone last week made the point that Duff & Phelps are not stupid people, probably the opposite so why did they go through this process knowing the likely outcome was not going to be good? Serious question
EDB,
so far, everybody I’ve met has been a pleasure, regardless of my drivel, soon hopefully.
hail hail
The thems fan on Scotland Tonight is @chrisgraham76 on twitter – has allegedly met Spiers and is well regarded and touted as a future ‘fans board member’.
Hey….Erchie
You ragin….?
ha ha ha
TinyTim on 29 May, 2012 at 22:29 said:
praecepta
That is a distinct possibility.
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We are going through the phases:
Confrontation
Arbitration
Procrastination
Prevarication
Litigation
Liquidation
Desolation
Ultimately …………… Termination!
Breeny
A chap whose name I missed has mentioned suspension for the first time in public. I can only summise that D&P want oblivion due to what has been uncovered privately. Suspend us, please – we’re in a worse state than you think.
The atmosphere on Scotland Tonight is funereal. Seriously, it looks bleak for them.
Why aren’t the WATPs asking why Novo was paid EXTRA money ? Holey moley he got paid more than his fair share anyway.
I have read a few posters commenting that Rangers did not go to CAS because the SFA do not recognise it. That is simply not true.
CAS is recognised by FIFA and UEFA and any club in the world wishing to take their association to task are entitled to take it to CAS.
The SFA are certainly not in any position to refuse to recognise CAS.
Where did this notion come from? My guess would be someone in the media trying to make a case for Rangers going to the Court of Session.
Also, the reason the SFA’s clause “and any other punishment deemed appropriate” was not raised in the CoS is because the law of the land does not recognise such a clause. You will often see a notice along the lines of “Maximum Penalty 6 months imprisonment or a 5,000 fine”. You will never see at the end of such a notice, ” . . . or any other punishment deemed appropriate”.
It’s a catch-all that has no basis in law, although it is fine in a private club like the SPL/SFA or the local Bowling Club.
By the way Third Lanark was the shortened version of Third Lanarkshire Rifle Volunteers.
I´m glad that we got shot of them as well.
I#Celtic open talks with out-of-contract international from English Premier League. See tomorrow’s Daily Express #cfc #hoops
How can the hun on STV be described as a season ticket holder? They have none of them right now.
TCC
I can exclusively reveal that the membership of the Bilderberg Group include Prince Albert, Joanna Lumley, Paul Baxendale-Walker, Graham Spiers & RinTinTin, a Manchester Polis Dug.
Did wee Oscar get home ok? Emdae know??
Archie McPherson – a Hun in Hun’s clothing. He fairly showed his colours tonight. Any time you hear RFC supporters talk they acknowledge that they need to be punished but never say what punishment would be appropriate. They then object to any punishment that is given. Come on FIFA sort them out once and for all.
ChairBhoy
I didn’t hear that, but would guess it came from the FIFA Congress in Budapest.
The ‘home’ nations always present themselves as being the sober, wise foil to FIFA, but the Scots are making a complete joke of the whole thing.
Tom Mc…,
CAS do not deal with appeals from clubs where an independent appeal panel makes the decision
Sixteen Roads 22.14
Insulting Drivel
And an insult to the suffering of the people of Clydebank, Greenock, Coventry and those further afield.
You are a Moron
Sixteen roads to Golgotha on 29 May, 2012 at 21:01 said:
Invercelt on 29 May, 2012 at 20:43 said:
I could not agree more.
Nazism was indeed such an evil and brutal ideology,merely compounded by the insanity of Hitler and his band of ruthless fanatics.
What i cannot however fail to acknowledge and admire is the sheer courage and fighting skills of the German combatants,during that most horrific of conflicts,despite the overwhelming odds that were stacked against them,in theatres of war such as the Eastern Front and Monte Cassino.
All sides were guilty of the most heinous crimes against humanity,the Nazis,the Communists and the Anglo-Americans alike,yet it seems that only the victors are allowed to tell their stories.
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Sixteen roads…….
If you haven’t already seen it I would recommend the HBO series ‘Band of Brothers’ which I recently watched on DVD. Based on the accounts of an US airbourne division from D-Day to the end of WW2 it does, to a certain extent, try to show both sides of the conflict solely from a soldiers point of view. Obviously does not shy away from the horror of the Nazi regime. In fact I would say it is the most powerful depiction of the Holocaust I have ever seen in either film or TV medium and when you take in the total running time of the series it barely touches on it. Very cleverly done.
TGSC,
Sailing On…..
Sixteen roads to Golgotha on 29 May, 2012 at 22:14 said:
It was Stalin who insisted on the bombing of Dresden.
!!Bada Bing!! on 29 May, 2012 at 22:42:
I take it Michael Owen is coming up to see his granny.