Other Scottish clubs would be better off if Celtic Park and Ibrox didn’t exist


There comes a time during any endeavour when you have to ask, is this worth all the hassle?  News revealed by Phil MacGiollabhain last week and swiftly picked up by the newspapers today that an SFA executive has had his life threatened for what some regard as holding a firm line on application of the game’s rules, are one of these occasions.

This is sport, it is not the struggle against apartheid.  It really, really, isn’t worth putting your life on the line for.

The SFA executive who received the threat has not been named but he will hopefully find a degree of fortitude in the face of such intimidation.  We have called for resignations from the SFA but not under these circumstances.  If the recipient of the threat continues to work as normal they should be commended for their bravery.

It is becoming increasingly difficult to put football back on solid ground but whatever our game looks like in future, it must take on a different face.  Ordinary football fans want their sport back, a sport where honesty and endeavour can be rewarded by success on the field.

That will have consequences for us.  Celtic are far too powerful for any other club in Scotland to genuinely compete.  35 of our 41 clubs figured out they can do without Rangers and 34 of them know they can do without Celtic too.

They should remind Sevco rules are there for a reason and tell Celtic to stop mumbling about finding another league to play in and go do something about it.  I could not be more convinced that every other club in Scotland would be better off if Celtic Park and Ibrox didn’t exist.

Question is, do the rest of the clubs have the balls to do something about it?  Is the ‘Arab Spring in Scottish football’ over, or does it still have another chapter?

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  1. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    Is it only at night time that the Gay bhoys come out on CQN ?



    HAil Hail

  2. South Of Tunis on

    starry plough —–



    A gift —– I have a pal in the music mag world .



    A real goodie .



    DBBIA ——–



    The Beach Boys always lacked soul — way too screwed up . They do harmony better than most.





    I’ve posted links to this before






    with a suggestion to google the wikipedia article on the singer,as I think there is a fascinating tale there.



    Turns out there’s a doco-movie being released tomorrow,titled “SEARCHING FOR SUGAR MAN”



    It sounds very intriguing,and the album “COLD FACT” is simply stunning.



    “COMING FROM REALITY”not so much so,mind.

  4. !!Bada Bing!!



    We have a Full back, Centre mid and a Forward who all missed most of last season through injury back playing. I am pretty sure adding Izzy, Kayal and Bangura to the team that won the League will have a huge impact.

  5. Ally Mcoist has demanded to kno the names of the 45,000 that have bought season books



    kdc + kdc junior1 and kdc junior2 are his first three names!




  6. p.s first european qualifiers commence before the start of the season and this has been the case for a number of years, how have the spl responded to this change? they have not and as such we have seen our team going up against teams half way through their season, while not playing even 1 competitive game, result regularly getting knocked out of european competition early impacting on co-efficient (turn a blind eye)



    scottish footballs lack of flexibility and desire to change has f*cked us time and again

  7. traditionalist88 on




    I think if it was a bluff the rest would see through it as well so not quite sure what would be the point…




  8. Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on

    2010 Never Again



    From – The Craic



    Former SFA President George Peat was part of the SFA board which originally cleared Jim Farry of all wrongdoing against Celtic when he deliberately delayed registration of a player in order that they could not play for Celtic FC against Rangers FC (IA).



    George Peat was also caught on Sky TV celebrating a goal for Rangers against Celtic. http://img690.imageshack.us/im



    Current President Campbell Ogilvie is a former employee, director, shareholder, and EBT recipient from Rangers FC (IA).



    Of course, we also have the Chief Executives, such as the aforementioned Jim Farry, who was forced to resign for his anti-Celtic actions.



    There’s also former Rangers FC (IA) player Gordon Smith, who joined the SFA as Chief Executive, before leaving to move back to Rangers FC (IA) as a director of football.



    This is before we even start to get into the likes of SFL President Jim Ballantyne, former Rangers FC (IA) shareholder most recently spotted at a game (against Linfield) to raise funds for the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund.



    Now we have Michael Johnson on the SPL board, the only SPL chairman not directly connected with Rangers FC (IA) who didn’t vote against admitting Sevco Scotland Ltd into the SPL.



    Then there’s the vice chairman of the SFA Referees Committee and SFA council member David Dowling, who is openly a Rangers FC (IA) supporter, and holder of shares in Rangers FC (IA).



    There’s also David Oglivie. Name ring a bell? Yup, he’s the brother of Campbell Ogilvie, and is also the SPL Operations Administrator.



    I could go on, but I don’t think there’s any need.



    It’s about time this little cartel of Rangers FC (IA) employees, shareholders, supporters, players and directors was busted, for the good of the game.

  9. Marrakesh Express on

    An over-used phrase which gets on my goat is..’the europa lg is really our level’…If NL or PL said that I’d chuck it.


    Put it this way…there are 32 teams in the CL groups. They usually include at least 12 who dont have our crowds, sponsorship, turnover, history or potential. If we feel that its not our level then whats the point.No matter how mediocre the team might be, I still think theres few teams who wouldnt take a draw at CP in the CL..Barca Real Man City? Maybe Chelsea? The Man utd naka game in 08 is a classic example of where we should be aspiring to. A Celtic side arguably similar to the current team defeating a better Man utd team…We must think bigger.

  10. philvisreturns on

    stephbhoy – i was born in 1977, i cannot claim to have done anything before that date nor can sevco



    Aye, but what if Bomber “Doc” Brown invents a time machine out of a 1987 Vauxhall Nova SR, containing a Mr Fusion unit so the Bampot Capacitor can be powered by jelly and ice cream, and he and Ally “Biff” McCoist go back in time to change the deeds?



    Failing that they could round up a bunch of historical figures and bring them to the present to play for Sevco: Attila the Hun, William of Orange, Charles Ponzi, John Knox, and Dr. Claw.



    I can exclusively reveal Bomber’s master plan to rescue Rangers here:






    They could make a TV show about it called Doctor Whit? (thumbsup)

  11. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    BMCUWP – great lost talent?


    I’ve always wondered what happened to Sunhouse [Midland English miserablists] , made one great album ‘Crazy on the Weekend’, and disappeared.

  12. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on 26 July, 2012 at 11:30 said:



    I picked up Cold Fact on the Fleamarket in Basel a few years ago, a well invested few quid…



    I’ll be looking out for the film too..

  13. The Battered Bunnet on 26 July, 2012 at 11:24



    smarter comment than you think.



    he’ll get death threats for suggesting that……. they already hate him.



    police beef up security.

  14. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Awenaw -I got a better offer.


    Vivacious DPRKorea playmaker looking for Scottish man to make play.

  15. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    A MAJOR Scottish club are set to pin their faith in a batch of youngsters in the coming season.


    But it’s not Rangers — it is in fact CELTIC!



    Parkhead boss Neil Lennon knows he’s going into the strangest campaign in Scottish football history.



    Rangers’ demotion to the Third Division means his side are certs to romp to a title that is usually a two-horse race.



    But where others forecast oblivion, Lennon senses opportunity. That will come in the shape of Filip Twardzik, Dylan McGeouch and Tony Watt — all of whom Celtic fans will see on a consistent basis.



    Lennon knows anything other than a stroll to his second consecutive title will be viewed as embarrassing failure. But he’s ready to use the absence of his greatest rivals to fuel his club’s long-term strategy.



    He said: “What not having Rangers in the division will do is increase the expectation on us. I accept that.



    “But it may also give us the chance to blood some youngsters. I can see that being the way we look at this season as it goes on.



    “Ideally, that will counter-balance the fact that I won’t have the money to spend that we’ve had previously.



    “Younger players will be involved more regularly.



    “Twardzik has done really well in pre-season and he’s now definitely staked a claim to be in the first-team squad.



    “Dylan will figure and James Forrest is still a young man. Behind them, Tony Watt is bubbling under.



    “They all give us a lot of scope to work with this year.



    “From Celtic’s point of view, it’s a huge blow to lose Rangers from the league — both from a financial and commercial perspective — but that’s where we are.



    “Our business model doesn’t change because of it.



    “We’ve had a plan over the last few years which is individual from every other club. We’ve looked outside your trendy European countries to try to find talents.



    “We’ve done quite well in that respect but there’s no doubt a big selling point in Scottish football was the Old Firm game.



    “Now we’re losing that for two or three years, we have to raise intellectual capital elsewhere, whether through merchandising or branding the club differently.



    “If that’s the case, we’ll do what we can — but at the minute it’s business as usual.”



    With no obvious domestic challenge imminent, Lennon knows his club’s European campaign will come under increased scrutiny.



    He said: “Yes, it will have more importance to our season than normal but I see a greater incentive for us.



    “If we get through against HJK, the very least we’ll have is Europa League football.



    “But, ultimately, the aim is to get into the group stages of the Champions League.



    “Because of the importance of Europe, these two games against HJK Helsinki will be crucial to us and we are desperate not to make too many mistakes in them.



    “That was why I went up to Iceland to see them in person this week, even though they were seven goals up from the first game and were always likely to change their team.



    “I wanted to get a feel for their style and personnel and it gave me an insight into players’ movements, their physical build and their attributes on and off the ball.



    “I needed to see them in the flesh so I have an idea how to set up my own team.



    “It was a pretty even game up there and the Icelandic side had some chances, particularly in the second half.



    “HJK were well-organised, strong, fit and athletic. It will be a very difficult tie for us.



    “There wasn’t much pace to the game to start with but seven goals is a very nice cushion to have.



    “Psychologically, they were in a bit of a comfort zone.



    “But that’s to their credit because they were clinical in the first leg and took their chances very well.



    “To score seven goals at any level of football is impressive and we’ll have to prepare as best we can.



    “They were impressive in Iceland too. They showed a good attitude, despite being so far ahead in the tie. And another win will have helped their confidence.



    “But KR made it competitive in the second half and the chances they created gives us some encouragement.



    “We had HJK watched last weekend, I’ve seen them now and we’ll have another look at their game this weekend.



    “That’s three reports we’ll have on them, so we should be well-versed by the first game.



    “The fear is always the same when the first leg is at home — that of losing an away goal, especially as the onus is on us to take the game to them.



    “HJK have good pace in the wide areas and players who can open up the game.



    “At this time of year, there are never any easy games in Europe. This will be our first competitive match, while they are 18 games into their season.



    “That’s always a problem for British teams who are starting to play qualifiers straight after finishing pre-season.



    “Because of that, we’re very wary of them and we’ll treat HJK with a lot of respect.”





  16. philvisreturns on

    I don’t understand all this drama re: North Korea, South Korea…



    Why can’t they just accept that they’re all Chinese? (thumbsup)

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on




    That flag you gave me to lie down in the grass with must have been the wrong one ???? ;-)



    HAil Hail





    It appears they had already split by the time of its release,but thanks for the tip-I’ll look out for it,though it has been deleted.






    Betcha it was on vinyl,too,ya lucky sod. I had to settle for CD……

  19. Imatim and so is Neil Lennon on

    2010 Never Again



    Punishments? What punishments? Telling it like it really is…….



    Of course, the 10-point penalty, like the exile from European competition, are not punishments: they merely represent the consequences of falling into administration.



    Similarly, newco Rangers have not been penalised by beginning life in the Third Division: indeed, no other completely new club would have been allowed to enter the bottom tier.



    It is also true that no other new club would have been even considered for membership of the SPL. Again, their failure to have the oldco’s membership share transferred is not a punitive measure.



    Equally, the £160,000 fine resulted from the inability or unwillingness [or both] of discredited owner Craig Whyte to pay taxes or any other bills which the club ran up during his tenure.



    Likewise, players, most of whom gave up 75 per cent of their salaries for three months in a vain attempt to save the old club, are not punishing Sevco by refusing to transfer their contracts to the new company and exercising their right to find alternative employment.


    “The transfer ban has been strongly resisted by me, the management team, the directors and supporters,” McCoist added.



    “From a business point of view I can understand the position the board has been placed in and ultimately they felt they had no choice but to accept some sanctions in order to move forward – as one of the alternatives could have led to the extinction of the club.


    “I can also assure every Rangers fan I will not be accepting any talk of stripping the Club of titles. That is something we will never accept and everyone at the Club shares this view.”



    The idea that people found guilty of wrongdoing – and if the SPL’s investigations proves that Rangers were improperly registering players over a period of 11 years it would be considered a major offence – should decide on the sentence they receive is a novel one.



    McCoist’s credibility was severely damaged by his demand in April to “out” the SFA’s independent Judiciary Panel (“Rangers supporters and the Scottish public deserve to know who these people are”) which had originally imposed the transfer embargo.



    The SFA’s compliance officer, Vincent Lunny, has still to take him to task for that outburst – rendered all the more incomprehensible by the fact that Rangers officials were well aware of the identities of the panel members – and he is also likely to have his collar felt for his latest offering.

  20. •-:¦:-•** -:¦:- sparkleghirl :¦:-.•**• -:¦:-• on

    That SFA organisational excellence again



    David Stoker ‏@davidstoker_lfc


    As suspected queuing system for collecting tickets at Hampden is shambolic. Staff and police everywhere except here!

  21. philvisreturns on 26 July, 2012 at 11:34 said:



    i am sure many darkside lurkers will think that plan is logical and will be attempting to enroll other lifeforms

  22. Many congratulations to Mr and Mrs Livibhoy and a warm welcome to the Celtic family to wee Charlie.

  23. Suggestions for films to be shown on the Ibrox big screen this weekend if Sevco can’t get the green light for the big Brechin match:



    Goodnight Vienna


    Another 48 Hours


    Groundhog Day


    The Longest Summer


    The Long Goodbye




    Goodbye Charlie

  24. South Of Tunis on

    BMCUP ——



    Sixto Diaz Rodriguez .



    Know the material ———- a girlfriend absolutely loved him . I liked the music but I never took to the singing. I do have some singles and a couple of LPs from the early 70s. [ gifts from said girlfriend ] I will dig them out and give them a twirl.



    I remember reading that Light In The Attic Records were reissuing his stuff . They usually do vinyl and CDs .



    I will make sure to see the documentary -thanks for the heads up .

  25. philvisreturns on

    Imatim and so is Neil Lennon – No way, KevBungle’s great.



    He’s like Inspector Clouseau gone hundercover. (thumbsup)


    Nice chatting,but I see PHILVIS is in da house so no point in waiting for a podium!



    Off oot,lovely day down here……….

  27. philvisreturns on

    BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS – Nice chatting,but I see PHILVIS is in da house so no point in waiting for a podium!



    Such a cynic Robert. (thumbsup)





    Thanks for the vinyl tip,bud.



    Eyes down,looking!