The news yesterday from Glasgow City Council that Celtic’s planning application for the areas outside the stadium had been approved will do more than deliver shrubbery to a currently derelict landscape; your match day experience is about to be transformed.
Unless your ticket is for the executive lounges, your match day will involve turning up to a cold stadium (not a lot Celtic or the Council can do about the weather) and wait for the game to start, with rudimentary access to toilets (get in early if you want a hand towel), burgers and pies.
Celtic have been buying up land around their perimeter for years and with permission to remove the derelict London Road School, they are now in a position to provide restaurants, bars, pre and post-match entertainment. They will also be able to bring the many thousands of artefacts which tell the story of Celtic into a dedicated museum space.
Celtic Park will become a working, 7-day-a-week, tourist destination. It’s going to be phenomenal.
Plans have been before the Council for years but although they ticked all the boxes and made enormous economic sense for an area of the city badly in need of a boost, I hear one SNP councillor spoke against plans to move the superstore from its current location to a larger area, as he felt the need to protect the interests of local Asda and Tesco superstores!
Not everyone was happy to see the club, or the area, progress.
The new edition of CQN Magazine is out and packed with great articles for and by the Celtic support. You can flick through the magazine in the graphic below but it you want to actually read it, click on the double-headed arrow at the bottom right of the graphic.
Here we go………
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TET Starry
Shoorly Coisty?
It’s no wonder Glasgow looks such a dump when people have so little appreciation of its built environment and heritage.
Sad.
If you want to see an old school go to ruddy well Scotland Street School museum and put some cash in the weee box for teh priviledge.
Who needs London Road School. It is a ruddy eye sore. Tear it doon!!! Especially so as it annoys Ernie and the huns (hun = every Ranger supporter I’ve ever known and always will – however I’m not yet sure if it referes to Sevconians as I haven’t meant one yet who doesn’t believe he is still a Hun AKA Rangers Supporter. Stupid dead fools).
MWD has his say. So shut it!!!
Auldheid/Doc
My main point has quite possibly been lost amongst my rants, apologies for that.
I’m not in any way against the development of facilities in and around Parkhead, in fact having had the opportunity to frequent the lounges for the first time this season, I think it’s a great thing.
My original point was that if the finances are available I’d prefer that they were used to strengthen the team first.
I went to Old Trafford a few years ago for our CL tie against them and stood in awe outside wondering at the magnificance of the place, the history and the memories it contained. But it’s not Celtic Park and so will never invoke the passion that I have for my own club.
As Celtic supporters what would be more likely to draw you to Parkhead, better facilities or a winning team, with better player, on the park?
Ernie Lynch – glad to see you’ve damned the design before you’ve even see it.
I’d hazard a guess that the school was Cat B, as it’s not particularly unique, albeit a good example of the type of building, and who’s to say the museum won’t achieve similar status.
Hamiltontim 15:54 on 8 May, 2013
We can do both.
starry plough
Roberto Martinez is 8/15…..
Lenny 16/1
Malky McKay 16/1
Gus Poyet 16/1
Phil Nevill 16/1
Sorry
RM is 8/13
bankiebhoy1 @ 15 44 .
The Gowf..
I got both my ears pierced in 1966 , my mother asked me If there was something I wanted to tell her / my father restricted himself to a curt –you’ll be playing golf next.
Comfortable Collective
Interesting stat…. I knew that MB and AF were responsible for a good number of their titles, but I didn’t realize MU’s history was so poor short of those two managers.
I dont mean to denigrate AF’s accomplishments, (he did a good job at Love Street, and a great job at Aberdeen), but he did have a great deal of good fortune. He had some great people working with him (Kidd, McLaren) who brought through the golden generation of kids, and equally importantly, his timing was right/fortuitous.
The watershed moment for AF was early 90’s when he managed to win the league, just as Premierships TV, and then CL, revenues were skyrocketing…. MU, Arsenal , etc., were in the right place at the right time to maximize TV and related revenues, and were smart (or lucky) enough to capitalize on that, as a result of which they built a financial gulf between them and most of the other clubs that can now never be overcome (unless you have a Chelsea or at Man City, who have owners for whom money is no object).
As such, while part of me enjoyed the parity of the clubs in the SPL this year (several of the clubs are starting to play good football), there was only one club that realistically had a chance of winning the league (i.e., Celtic). While small fish compared to some of the Eurepean giants, in Scotland, Celtic are now the playground bullies (financially, at least)
As a result, for the foreseeable future, I dont see a time when a Dundee United or an Aberdeen will challenge…. for the next little while, Celtic’s only challenge now is in Europe.
Personally, I do feel that I didn’t have the same passion for some of the games this year that I have had in the past. Unlike when Sevco were playing, I didn’t worry if we dropped points. This is not to say that I wish Sevco back… I despise what they stand for, and they needed to be punished for their cheating. But, it did make the league (cups are a bit different) a foregone conclusion.
I think that is unfortunate for the game in Scotland. Because Celtic have the chance to grab a lot of European money (CL) that no other club in Scotland will have a chance to get, it could end up like it has in England, where the gulf between the top rich clubs and the smaller clubs is so egregious, and will only continue to grow.
I dont think this is good for the game in Scotland. the only problem is that the people who are charged with looking after the game in Scotland dont seem to care about what goes on as long as (i) they keep their cushy gigs, and (ii) one diddy team is looked after.
I see that the legned that is sir cardigan of broguery is 33/1
Auldheid, I am far from convinced the board have moved heaven and earth to exit Scotland. The way we play the game with the SFA and the Media is far too passive. It’s ok waiting for these guys to make mistakes but we are never on the front foot.
Rather than solidarity payments to prop up the SPL clubs, why not let Market forces take over and let it go bust. It would then free Celtic and with the correct lobbying etc leave this mickey mouse league.
There is one club of any substance left in Scotland for the next 2 years. We need to take advantage of that window of opportunity ( with some calculated risk taking ). The alternative is what none of us want when the ibrox club return. Peter Lawwell is too comfortable running the show in Scotland. He is not the man to lead us out of the wilderness.
LiviBhoy
15:12 on
8 May, 2013
But should we limit our spending on the playing staff so that we can improve facilities to entice those ‘floaters’?
Ernie Lynch
I’m with you on the preservation of buildings like the school. I just love these old red sandstone buildings. Just a personal opinion, I also like a lot of modern architecture as long as thought has been given to more than just functionality. I’m sure a clever architect could incorporate even just the facade into a sympathetic new building ,cost permitting.
Might even be considered quite appropriate for a museum.
May 8, 1945,
Combat ends in Europe as German forces agree to an unconditional surrender.
I wonder if the current ‘huns’ will do the same this week…
Hamiltontim
16:00 on
8 May, 2013
LiviBhoy
15:12 on
8 May, 2013
But should we limit our spending on the playing staff so that we can improve facilities to entice those ‘floaters’?
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Sorry that should have been addressed to Thomthethim.
The purpose of the built environment is to enhance quality of life. Reminding us of how crap it used to be has limited ‘heritage’ value.
When a building has no function beyond providing a good example of a bad building design, and if no future or alternative purpose can be defined, its time is up.
Hamiltontim,
When Fergus came in, he could have tarted up the old ground and spent more of his limited funds on player recruiyment.
Instead, he worked on providing the facility we have today.
Most would agree that he made the right choice.
He still managed to provide ample funds to build a team that shoud have been capable of winning the league, but, I’m afraid, the management lacked the tactical know how to complete the job; even allowing for the dirty tricks.
At this stage, we should be able to concentrate on our playing environment and facilities and still have enough to improve the team, as long as it isbusef wisely.
I have absolutely no problems with how the clubis being run.
THE EXILED TIM
Thanks TET, I can’t imagine Everton holding any interest for Neil but them I’m no him, the list itself shows they are a smallish club who punch above their weight..
weeminger
15:54 on 8 May, 2013
‘Ernie Lynch – glad to see you’ve damned the design before you’ve even see it.
I’d hazard a guess that the school was Cat B, as it’s not particularly unique, albeit a good example of the type of building, and who’s to say the museum won’t achieve similar status.’
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I’m pretty certain that any development that starts by demolishing a Cat B building to erect a museum is unlikely to end up being listed, or of being of any architectural merit whatsoever.
It will be cheap and cheerful and anyone who says they aren’t overwhelmed by its brilliance will be accused of being a hun.
Anyway, what’s the point of having a museum?
All that old stuff.
What we want is shiny new stuff.
SOT
Both ears…….!
Prince Albert CSC?
;)
HH
The Battered Bunnet
15:41 on
8 May, 2013
The building is typical of hundreds of such Board schools of the time, many of which remain standing, unused and decaying across the city.
It was a crap school building design. Converting it into a crap museum design doesn’t really make a lot of sense.
Re-use the materials for a better purpose.
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TBB-Thats the whole crux of the matter-it was designed as a school and does not comply with current building standards due to its age and most importantly will not comply either current fire escape regulations especially across the three floors.
It would also require major adaptation to allow disabled access across all floors in terms of normal access and escape access.
Throw in posible wet rot,dry rot asbestos,structural and drainage issues,upgrade of services[gas,electricity,water] and the refurbishment of the existing structure soon becomes unaffordable never mind unfeasible in terms of suitability for purpose.
Lucky Cody
Where would we go?
I’ve heard this mentioned several times over the last few years about Celtic getting out of Scottish football by ‘lobbying’ but who exactly are we trying to convince?
There is no evidence which would suggest thet anywhere else would take us.
We need to be prudent and plan for an escape but only while we still have the safety net of regular league football.
Ipad user limitations. pols
Don’t rule out the man Evertonians nicknamed the Silver Sloth for the Goodison gig.
Hamiltontim
I think that the playing staff will be improved over time by the revenues raised by a museum and improved facilities. Now is the time to invest. We have no challenge domestically at the moment. I posted a huge comment on this a week or so ago. We have to be patient. You can’t have your super ground/casino/hover pitch/etc and superstars on the pitch all at once. You will end up a deid club!
I know this wasn’t for me but commented anyway.
LB
Jings!! All This Talk Aboot ‘Conservat-ion’
Whoever Would Have Guessed That Ole Prince Charles Would Post On CQN….
Using ‘Ernie Lynch’ As His Moniker..?
Still….Laughin’
lucky cody
Out of the wilderness to where??
If you don’t mind me asking..
johann murdoch
16:07 on 8 May, 2013
That’s an argument for demolishing every building more than 10 years old.
Utterly ridiculous.
starry plough
Either can I, but maybes he will put his family first.
I will depend on the board as well I would imagine, will they back him for a further assault in europe, or will they stick.
Time will tell.
Moyes was the third highest paid manager in the EPL I recall, I stand to be corrected on that though.
johann murdoch 16:07 on 8 May, 2013
No one cares about the unused Category B buildings throughout the Glasgow area – just the one that Celtic are going to demolish.
thomthethim
16:05 on
8 May, 2013
Hamiltontim,
When Fergus came in, he could have tarted up the old ground and spent more of his limited funds on player recruiyment.
Instead, he worked on providing the facility we have today.
Most would agree that he made the right choice.
He still managed to provide ample funds to build a team that shoud have been capable of winning the league, but, I’m afraid, the management lacked the tactical know how to complete the job; even allowing for the dirty tricks.
At this stage, we should be able to concentrate on our playing environment and facilities and still have enough to improve the team, as long as it isbusef wisely.
I have absolutely no problems with how the clubis being run.
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That’s a whole other discussion :-)
Tommy Burns identified other players that he wanted, Fergus said no.
My preference would have been for the money to have been spent on improving the team, and quite possibly preventing the huns equalling 9 in a row, than on stadium facilities.
I’d better get out of here now before I get my head kicked in for being a mineshafter :-)
ernie lynch
16:06 on
8 May, 2013
Anniesland Court is a Cat A listed building. It’s not particularly pleasant on the eye, but it is architecturally quite significant. The school as it’s listing suggests is obviously not high on the list in either category.
It would be great if the museum could accommodate some, or all of the structure but if that’s not to be then so be it, and I doubt there’s room within the existing shell for the kind of A/V theater etc that they should be having in mind.
If it’s replaced by a faceless glass box of more or less the same dimensions I’ll be as hacked off as you but you’re giving the impression that if you had your way there would be no architectural progress within the city at all.
Burn down the old school
Hang the blessed moaning wingers
Hang the wingers
Hang the wingers
Hang the wingers
MWD has another say. So shut it!!!
THE EXILED TIM
No MON or Big Sam
Changed days
weeminger
I like Anniesland Court. Eye of the beholder and all that.
Apologies if this has been posted before.. but there is a really interesting article in the FT about Evertons over-achieving (came out a few days back). I think it’s an interesting comparison to Celtics current trajectory.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/2fa7ef1e-b2c0-11e2-8540-00144feabdc0.html#slide0
The writer suggests Moyes success is partly down to careful data analysis of other teams – there is even a line that Everton/Moyes does not have their own philosophy or style of football (as opposed to say Wenger). Each game they adapt to nullify the opposition and then build from there. Perhaps this is a weakness of Celtic.. we are used to dominating our own league and are always trying to impose our own game – whilst the opposition managers try to stymie us (like we did to Barcelona?). Do we ever look at Kilmarnock/Hibs/Dundee Utd players and think we should do X to stop Y getting on the ball?
Then they talk about Evertons buying strategy a bit — though its less clear on their advantage there. Whilst they have more money to spend than us – they probably have a smaller net spend. They have been buying outside the Premiership for years too though. You seldom see them buy from other Premiership or even Championship teams.
…anyway worth a read i thought.
Hamiltontim,
It just boils down to preferences and opinions.
If Fergus hadn’t done what he did at the time, then it wouldn’t have been done.
As it proved to be, we didn’t need all of Di Canio, Pierre and Cadete.
One or two of them would have sufficed and money spent on the back door locks.
All history now, but, I firmly believe Fergus’ priorities were correct.
PS.
Big Jock was proud to have attracted what you called the ” floaters”.
Many remained as fans.