Preseason pains

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Results in preseason friendlies are (fortunately) notoriously unreliable indicators of results in competitive games, but Celtic will be alarmed at the scale of the deficit against Greuther Fuerth, from the German second tier, especially after reversals against Sevastopol and Cluj.  Clubs from Ukraine, Romania and Germany are apparently organised, even during the summer months.

Next week’s game against Cliftonville is Celtic’s first test, but they will come thick and fast from now on.

Losing a friendly 6-2 brought an unwelcome feeling.  Then I wondered how it would have felt to lose a competitive game by the same score to a major rival.  Ouch.  Made me feel a little better.
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  1. art of war

     

     

    11:27 on 11 July, 2013

     

    Not as happy as me DBBK, the legend that is Bertie Auld just passed me.

     

     

    “Hail, hail Bertie!”

     

     

    “Alright son.”

     

     

    If Carlsberg made fag breaks…..

     

     

    ———–

     

     

    I thought Bertie had given up.

  2. ..

     

     

    Banned Celtic supporters get police warning over Champions League qualifier in Belfast

     

     

    TWENTY-SIX Celtic fans who are the subject of football banning orders have received letters from Police Scotland reminding them the orders apply right across the UK.

     

     

     

    BANNED Celtic fans have been warned not to try to attend next week’s Champions League qualifier in Belfast.

     

     

    Police Scotland have written to 26 Hoops supporters who are the subject of football banning orders ahead of the clash with Cliftonville FC.

     

     

    The move is designed to remind fans that the orders against them apply across the UK – not just in Scotland.

     

     

    A Police Scotland spokeswoman said: “The letter is a reminder that should they choose to visit Northern Ireland in connection with a regulated football match being played there, the FBO will be policed accordingly.”

     

     

    The letter, seen by the Record, states: “May I take this opportunity to remind you that you are currently the subject of a football banning order.”

     

     

    It was sent out under the authorisation of Superintendent Stephen MacAllister of the Football Coordination Unit (Scotland).

     

     

    The match at Solitude in west Belfast – the first of three qualifying rounds Celtic will have to get through to reach the lucrative Champions League group stage – will be broadcast live on BBC Scotland.

     

     

    Summa

  3. DBBIA – agree, strange one – I guess twelve and a half mill in the hand is worth two in the bush………

  4. South Of Tunis on

    Estadio Nacional @ 11 08 .

     

     

    ” the Manager can’t cope with a playmaker unless he can defend , that’s how Chico Muldini is the current playmaker ”

     

     

    To be fair , Chico Muldini is relatively good with a dead ball.

  5. tommytwiststommyturns on

    The alledged sum of £12.5M for a player who has the potential to be the real deal is a nice piece of business, but how much of that money will actually go to our club?

     

    Are the Belgian club we signed him from due a cut? How much goes to the player and his agent?

     

     

    T4

  6. Stein. Do you really believe that? If true he would be having medical now

     

     

    But we all know that it’s tosh

  7. wgs

     

     

    11:27 on 11 July, 2013

     

    South of Tunis,

     

     

    You could be right.

     

     

    agree about Uruguay and south america for talent.

     

     

    Boghassain and Battega a few years ago had enormous potential. Still think Joaquin Boghassain has.

     

     

    Always thought why nobody took a punt on Alvaro Rios defensive mid. Runs all day, breaks up play. Think he is quality.

     

     

    Sebastien Boesnich is another one i though we missed boat on when he was at Werder Bremen for full back.

     

     

     

     

    How u manage to see so many players from alot of different leagues ?

  8. derbyshirebhoy on

    I have been one that with my heart felt it better for Victor to stay longer with Celtic and with CL exposure move then to a much bigger club than Southampton. My head however tells me that playing week in week out in the EPL will give him infinitely much more exposure and eliminate the doubts of bigger clubs that he maybe only looks good because of how poor the league is he’s playing in with Celtic.Don’t like what my head tells me but them’s the facts and our position in the world of football. Our board should be devoting all of its efforts to changing that scenario or we are doomed to that role for evermore.

  9. .

     

     

    Dontbrattbakkinanger

     

    11:23 on

     

    11 July, 2013

     

    new lawn mower just been delivered

     

     

    I am happy as a lamb in clover.

     

     

    ..

     

     

    I Nearly bought 2 Pygmy Goats last week to save me Buying a New Lawnmower..And Using it..;-)

     

     

    Summa

  10. Tommy,

     

     

    I reckon that agent cut will be taking care off and not included in overall fee. Celtic would want 12 million and how the rest is divided up then not our concern.

     

     

    Probably reason it has took long.

     

     

    We have stood firm and southampton had to sort agents cut out. 500k of 12.5 million coming to us probably going to Belgium club.

  11. Estadio Nacional on

    South Of Tunis 11:29

     

     

    I know and I like our Chico but at times he seems the play maker looking to play the ball forward and at free kicks and corners, we seem to rely on set peices.

     

     

    I wouldnt be surprised if we went for Rory Delap this summer to add throw ins as another set piece we could create from.

     

     

     

    EN

  12. unionbearBhind on

    Warning extremely large post from TSFM

     

    BY newtz

     

     

     

     

    A number of posters on TSFM including myself have taken a particular interest in some of @CharlotteFakes releases regarding one particular individual named Rafat Ali Rizvi.

     

     

    It was clear from the released emails and supporting audio that details of any involvement or investment of this particular individual was to be kept out of the public domain, and in the words of Imran Ahmad to the effect of …. would be worse than finding out that Craig Whyte was still involved …..

     

     

    Well what could be worse ?

     

     

    It had not escaped the notice of the bampot community that Rafat Ali Rizvi was actually convicted (in his absence …. abscondment), of serious bank fraud in Indonesia. Further, he had been placed on Interpol’s Red List of Wanted Criminals.

     

     

    Now the early research on Rizvi was kicked off on RTC, but it was not until @ecobhoy pulled all of the information together and posted on Paul McConvilles Blog that the issue gathered further momentum.

     

     

    http://scotslawthoughts.wordpress.com/2012/07/21/exclusive-amazing-rangers-link-to-interpol-fugitive-posted-by-ecojon/

     

     

    It was a response to this post from @Johnboy (July 21, 2012 at 11:41 am) on Paul’s blog that further suggested a connection to Chris Morgan.

     

     

    What we were left with last July then was a loose connection of hearsay and past interconnections with various degrees of separation between Charles Green, Chris Morgan and (possibly) Rafat Ali Rizvi ….. that Chris Morgan was announced as an investor to the tune of £400k, and that there was one particular significant shareholder that Charles Green was or appeared to be protecting. Blue Pitch Holding …. No more than that.

     

     

    The trail went cold until February this year when between them Alex Thompson and Phil MacGiollaBhain released reports of the possibility of a winding up petition from a Far Eastern Company called Orlit Enterprises. For whatever reason, it stirred Charles Green into quite an agitated state and Rangers immediately responded with an official response. It was clear at the time that the explanation given did not seem to sit right, and further it highlighted an interesting individual called Chan Fook Meng. Now the interesting point about Mr Meng is that as well as being a director of Orlit, is that he is also the Chairman of Nova Resources Limited, and of course the chairman of Nova Resources Limited until May 2012 was Charles Green, at which time he resigned to take up his Rangers interest!.

     

     

    Now at the same time, it had not gone unnoticed that the Advisors for Nova Resources and indeed other companies with associations between this group of individuals were Allenby Capital, and in particular the association of Brian Stockbridge and also Imran Ahmed.

     

     

    Nova Resources was previously known as Tembusu Investments, but changed its name after its then Chairman and Chief Executive Rafat Rizvi was convicted of corruption and money laundering charges in Indonesia involving a total of £367million.

     

     

    When Rizvi resigned, his place was taken by Ms Zhang Yun, whose CV indicates that one of her positions was as Director of Orlit Enterprise (Singapore) Pte Ltd. Ms Zhang Yun is the wife of Rafat Ali Rizvi.

     

    The decision to allow Mrs Rizvi to take her convicted man’s place as boss of Tembusu was approved by the firm’s nominated advisers Allenby Capital.

     

     

    http://www.investegate.co.uk/article.aspx?id=20100122101109W2129

     

     

    Allenby’s representative at Tembusu is Brian Stockbridge.

     

     

    Before leaving the intriguing Mr Meng, let us look at another interesting link that may be relevant.

     

     

    Mr Chan Fook Meng is listed as having an interest in Tricor PLC who were represented and advised by Allenby Capital, and in particular by Brian Stockbridge.

     

     

    Back in May 2012, when Mr Green emerged publicly, there were rumours that the acquisition of the football club would be by a combination of Tricor, Mr Green, Mr Chan and Nazim Khan.

     

     

    Mr Khan, as well as being one of the consortium, it was alleged, is also a director of Tricor.

     

     

    Pershing Nominees are reported to have a stake in ‘consortium’ member Chan Fook Meng’s Tricor, but also Ordinary Shares in Willow International Limited pursuant to conversion of Convertible Loan Notes issued by the Company to Craig Whytes Liberty Capital Limited.

     

     

    Charlotte kindly presented us with the placing letters and copies of the Share Placing documents to confirm Mr Greens early submission … I bet he was not expecting that !

     

     

    The Trail Warms Up

     

    In May this year @CharlotteFakes released an audio of Imran Ahmed, Brian Stockbridge and surprisingly …. Craig Whyte discussing openly the involvement of Rafat Ali Rizvi as being one the consortium of investors in the Newco Rangers !.

     

     

    This revelation was off the Richter Scale in not only presenting suggesting a link to Rizvi ….. but that Craig Whyte was also in on the deal. Up until this point, we believed that the Rizvi connection was a separate strand to the Craig Whyte involvement and not inextricably linked (Shock and Awe).

     

     

    @CharlotteFakes also released two damning emails showing that between them Imran Ahmed, Chris Morgan and Craig Whyte were colluding to cover up the (alleged) investment of one of Interpol’s most wanted criminals in the Newco Rangers.

     

     

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/152632997/Morgan

     

     

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/152637504/Morgan-Rizvi

     

     

    As the debate and speculation hotted up, @CharlotteFakes decided to provide us with an email release that finally showed categorically that funds appeared to be transferred (or authorised to do so) between Rizvi and Chris Morgan though Asia Credit Corporation and a Swiss bank account.

     

     

    http://i.imgur.com/1Ls2NsJ.jpg

     

     

    So now we started to enter a completely new phase of this intriguing story, the battle for Blue Room Control.

     

    We have all watched with incredulity at the Rangers Board room battle to remove Malcolm Murray, and listened with intrigue to Imran Ahmed stitch up and suggestion that he walks quietly at the end of the season. We also heard Murray request that he talk to Cenkos, and Imran could have no objection to this (how could he on tape ?). Of course, better to keep Murray on side rather than a loose canon outside of the Board Room.

     

     

    Shortly afterwards Charles Green was forced to resign with Imran following in short succession.

     

     

    We have seen chris Mather installed as temporary CEO and Malcolm Murray step down as Chairman to be replaced by Walter Smith. But the Blue room politic has been severely altered and we can see evidence for urgent realignment ahead of the August AGM.

     

    The strong suggestion is that Chris Morgan will be voted onto the board alongside James Easdale. We have subsequently seen Mr Easdale appointed, but what about Mr Morgan.

     

     

    We enter an interesting phase, because it appears that Rangers were unsuccessful in getting approval for the appointment of Mr Morgan. Could it be that following recent spotlight on Chris Morgan’s activities and associations that Cenkos could not issue the appropriate clean bill of health document required for directors of AIM companies.

     

     

    On Sunday 7th July Phil MacGiollaBhain wrote an interesting article on his website:

     

     

    http://www.philmacgiollabhain.ie/sevco-and-cenkos/#more-3770

     

     

    The first point to make is that Phil was correct …. Rangers were about to announce a change of Nomad and Broker. But interestingly it was not to Daniel Stewart as suggested, but rather to another equally lessor known Nomad Strand Hanson.

     

     

    Phil MacGiollaBhain followed up with this post on TSFM following the announcement that infact Strand Hanson were to be appointed.

     

     

    Phil MacGiollaBhain (@Pmacgiollabhain) says: (July 9, 2013 at 1:23 pm)

     

    There is a major story in why the NOMAD Daniel Stewart (signed up on Friday) was replaced at the 11th hour.

     

    Did they walk or did someone at RIFC find something in their business pas that was toxic?

     

     

    So what happened in the time between having Daniel Stewart signed up on Friday and the announcement of Strand Hanson on Tuesday. Well, I suggest we look no further than on this site.

     

     

    On Sunday I posted the following …

     

     

    newtz says: July 7, 2013 at 9:41 pm

     

    Daniel Stewart appointed as NOMAD & Broker to Nova Resources Plc

     

    11 January 2012

     

    Nova Resources Plc (NOVA.L) announces the appointment of Daniel Stewart and Company plc as the Company’s NOMAD and broker

     

     

    For further clarification

     

    http://www.iii.co.uk/investment/detail/?display=news&code=cotn:NOVA.L&action=article&articleid=8583918

     

     

    That Daniel Stewart are so closely linked with Nova Resources, to Orlit, to Rafat Ali Rizvi is too blatant, too dangerous …. too toxic !

     

     

    That even the suggestion of a connection was being openly discussed on a monitored blog site and on Twitter must have been enough for one of the parties to get cold feet …

     

     

    When Phil first suggested that Daniel Stewart were to appointed It initially raised a completely different query, and that was …. Why ?. Why choose a low profile Advisor and broker. Could it be that they might be more amenable to pressure … a more compliant Nomad ?. It was interesting that another poster asked the same question a day later. It was even more interesting that in today’s DR that Kevin Prior should make a similar observation …

     

     

    Prior said: “My reaction to the latest boardroom announcements are twofold – dismay and horror.

     

    “Rangers have changed their broker of choice from Cenkos, an established and respected firm, to one which I have never heard of.

     

    “Unassuming fans might think it a non-event but the presence of Cenkos would have assured investors both present and future.

     

    “This is the brokerage that brought Rangers to market last year and provides us with a heritage and access to capital markets.

     

    “I only hope Strand Hanson are not yes men. Charles Green has a lock-in period on his shares of two years. I would trust the new brokers would not move from that.

     

    ——-

     

     

    It’s not the fact that Rangers changed Nomad and Broker (But it needs explaining! ), that prompted me to post ….

     

     

    The Genie Is Out of the Bottle ….

     

     

    It was that Daniel Stewart had been considered, and according to Phil and Cenkos …. signed up on Friday 5th July.

     

     

    As Phil responded ….

     

     

    Phil MacGiollaBhain (@Pmacgiollabhain) says: July 9, 2013 at 1:48 pm

     

    @newtz

     

    the genie is indeed out of the bottle…

     

     

    The debacle prompted the following Tweets

     

     

    Phil MacGiollaBhain‏@Pmacgiollabhain

     

    Memo to Glasgow MSM: There is a major story in the 11th hour change of NOMAD for RIFC. Daniel Stewart chaps were signed up on Friday. 1/2

     

     

    Phil MacGiollaBhain‏@Pmacgiollabhain

     

    2/2 Did the NOMAD do their due diligence and walk or did someone at Sevco have reason to change their mind? Big story there lads. #NoLamb

     

     

    ———-

     

     

    Most of the information in this post is collected from input posted on this site, Paul McC’s blog and KDS as an aid to paint a better picture … @eco @Sam @Johnboy and many others .. Thks all

     

     

    Sorry for length, but have tried to string the relevant parts of the whole story (as I understand it) together for the benefit of those who may have missed some of the input. Of course, there is much more input to add, and indeed much I will have missed. But hope this helps.

     

     

    newtz

  13. Estadio Nacional on

    Vic’s former club:

     

     

    Beerschot AC

     

     

    ‘After being relegated in 2012–13, the club went bankrupt at the end of the season and was removed from competition altogether.

     

     

    In June 2013 K.FC.O.Wilrijk unofficially merged with Beerschot AC into K.FC.O. Beerschot-Wilrijk.[2] This new club will play in the first division of the Belgian Provincial leagues’

     

     

     

    The SFA have instructed Celtic to send any share due to Beerschot to sevco.

  14. I know that I’ll probably be in a minority of – one – after I say what I honestly feel about – Craig Burley’s comments in the Hunday Mail last week about – Neil being PL’s puppet…

     

    ….I think that CB was correct !!!

     

     

    I mean – Neil saying that – Vic67 should go to Southampton as that would be a type of club that would suit him ?

     

     

    Celtic’s most valuable piece of stock should further his career by joining a club that wasn’t long oot of administration ?

     

     

    Neil – how many of Southampton’s players would get into your Celtic team ?

     

     

    In the interests of fairness – Craig Burley was right. imo

     

    Hail Hail

  15. Kev. If course you are right. Most of Vic money goes to Celtic Plc and Pl

     

    Neil the fans and celtic FC lose their best midfield player and get hew haw

  16. Leg break didn’t just shatter my spirit.. it destroyed my game

     

     

    X-RAYS revealed his leg was broken, but the way Emilio Izaguirre was feeling, his whole life was shattered.

     

    Every day for a month the Honduran defender could do nothing but cry.

     

    Two years on, a six-goal friendly thumping by German minnows Greuther Furth makes the Celtic defence appear fractured.

     

    But Izaguirre, 27, is all out of tears. He is fit, healthy and positive Tuesday’s 6-2 thrashing will prove to be nothing more than a pre-season blip.

     

    This is a man driven and focused on recapturing the form which made him Scotland’s Player of the Year in 2011.

     

    Izaguirre said: “I need to get back to the way I played in my first season at Celtic.

     

    “I was so happy to win the Player of the Year award in 2011, and I’m working hard every day to get back to that level again.

     

    “The injury I had was very difficult for me. After I had the operation I cried every day for a month.

     

    “I had great support from my my wife and son, but in my head I found it so difficult because football is my life.

     

    “It was very tough. I like to work hard and play hard and enjoy my football.

     

    “I tried my best when I came back and played last season, but I hope I will show my recovery is complete this season.

     

    “I need to show my injury is in the past and I’m looking forward to what is coming next for me.

     

    “I believe I can get back to the level I reached when I was named the best player in Scotland.

     

    “I want to get back to the Emilio everyone saw in my first season at Celtic, and I will work very hard every day to do that.

     

    “I desperately want to play in the Champions League. I want to help the team get through the qualification games and reach the group stages.

     

    “Celtic did so well in Europe last season and we need that again.”

     

    Izaguirre played for the majority of the match against Furth on Tuesday night.

     

    He made a flying start to the game, with Neil Lennon’s side taking an early lead and looking good. But it was short-lived. Last season’s relegated Bundesliga outfit ended up easy winners, with the hapless Hoops run ragged for the last half hour.

     

    With the crucial Champions League qualifier against Cliftonville a week away, the performance was far from ideal.

     

    But Izaguirre has urged Hoops supporters not to panic, insisting the SPL champions will get things right in Belfast on Wednesday.

     

    He added: “We are very sad about this result. We tried to get the win, but it was not our night and we lost.

     

    “All we can do now is work very hard ahead of our next friendly on Friday, to show the fans and the staff we can do better.

     

    “We are still in pre-season, so I would like to say to the fans ‘Don’t panic’. There is still confidence in this group of Celtic players.

     

    “I’m sure we will be ready for next week’s Champions League qualifier.

     

    “I don’t know why we played like we did on Tuesday night. It’s difficult to explain.

     

    “For me, I have only trained for four days after joining up with the players last Friday.

     

    “All I can say is Friday is a different day when we play Union Berlin.

     

    “We have one more game to prepare for the qualifier against Cliftonville and we will be ready.

     

    “That is the important one for us and that is what we are thinking about, getting through to the next round in the Champions League.”

     

    Izaguirre refuses to use the excuse that Celtic are feeling the effects of such a short summer break.

     

    He insisted: “I’m happy to be back playing so soon. I’m happier training and playing football than being at home doing nothing. I even enjoy pre-season!

     

    “I never like to stay away for more than three weeks because my life is all about training and playing football.”

     

    Three consecutive defeats on Celtic’s German trip doesn’t make great reading for new stoppers Virgil van Dijk and Steven Mouyokolo.

     

    But experienced Izaguirre insists both defenders have got what it takes to be success stories with Celts.

     

    He added: “I have only trained with them a couple of times. But I can see already they are very good players. They are both quick and strong and I believe they will help the team.”

     

     

     

    Summa

  17. len brennan

     

     

    11:28 on 11 July, 2013

     

     

    Looks a good one from that clip (yep I know!).

     

     

    Reminds me a bit like Kayal when his performances and attitude were better.

  18. I for one am a bit peed off with Eurochamps67’s ‘diaries from a foreign land’.

     

    Basically he’s telling of the joys of swanning about through the day enyoing

     

    all that nature has to bestow,then at night it’s a pissup with great food and wine.

     

    The mhans giving us a large GIRUYeez.

     

     

    p.s

     

    BT is doing the same roon the back in Blantyre on far less money……so there.

     

    Hail hail.

  19. South Of Tunis on

    Estadio Nacional @ 11 02 .

     

     

    Meant to add that Udinese [ real good at that find them , develop them , make a big profit on them thing ] have signed 4 Croatian teenagers ..

     

     

    Udinese employ an astonishing number of scouts . I read recently that they have increased the number of scouts they have working the more eastern /southern of the former Soviet Republics .

  20. Steinreignedsupreme on

    SydneyTim 11:30 on 11 July, 2013

     

     

    “Do you really believe that? If true he would be having medical now”

     

     

    Would he?

     

     

    Do you know for certain that the people who found Wanyama for £900,000 are not on the case in finding a replacement?

     

     

    Had you heard of Victor before Celtic offered him a bigger stage and was there weeks of speculation about his arrival?

  21. SydneyTim

     

     

    11:44 on 11 July, 2013

     

    __________________

     

    What really get’s stuck in my craw at the moment is the amount of fans who come on here and elsewhere and say that – “…the wonderful business model is working blah blah etc…”

     

     

    If this wonderful business model is working – how much money has been brought to the club during Neil’s period of management ?

     

     

    As far as I see – we’ve sold Aiden and Ki – both brought in by different managers.

     

    So, of all the players that Neil has brought in – how much money has been raised and, as a consequence – what type bill has been suffered by – bringing / retaining players who have proved to be no more than adrain on resources ?

     

     

    Hail Hail

  22. Dontbrattbakkinanger on

    Pygmy goats?

     

     

    They could be of interest to Sevconians of restricted growth.

     

     

    Anyways, off oot to cut the grass.

  23. SidneyTom

     

    KevJungle

     

     

    As the wise old pirate says ” Feelings are neither right nor wrong, they just ahhrrrrr. :)

  24. VP.

     

    Not got any ouzo but have a bottle of raki to remind me of the Turkish sun from last summer. .

  25. Stein. I have said before. Go to holland and pay a club 650k for another Henk

     

    These players come along once in a blue moon

     

     

    How many players have we signed and how long and much money will be wasted before another Vic comes along

  26. .

     

     

    Would Love if Paul67 on his Next Update for the Site had a FB Style..

     

     

    Like button beside Posts..Would be good to see the Numbers..

     

     

    And of Course..

     

     

    a..No-Like button that would be really Good to see the Numbers..;-)

     

     

    And of Course Replacing the Log-Out Botton would be..

     

     

    Off Oot..

     

     

    Summa of ILikeToDislikePostsCSC

  27. SydneyTim

     

    __________

     

    Would you agree that – the last CH of substance brought to the club was

     

    Stanislav Varga?

     

     

    How many ago was that – 15 / 20 ?

     

    HH

  28. HT

     

     

    Where’s my fekn book ?Mind I go on holiday in September.

     

    Give Calton Tongues a wee phone I have passed Bar67 a

     

    few times this week and he hasn’t been outside.

     

     

    BT

     

     

    Raki is well named…hasn’t got the same inviting ring as Courvoisier(googled spelling)

     

     

    Saying that any port in a storm :O)

     

     

    hail hail to you two fine gentlemhen.