Results in preseason friendlies are (fortunately) notoriously unreliable indicators of results in competitive games, but Celtic will be alarmed at the scale of the deficit against Greuther Fuerth, from the German second tier, especially after reversals against Sevastopol and Cluj. Clubs from Ukraine, Romania and Germany are apparently organised, even during the summer months.
Next week’s game against Cliftonville is Celtic’s first test, but they will come thick and fast from now on.
Losing a friendly 6-2 brought an unwelcome feeling. Then I wondered how it would have felt to lose a competitive game by the same score to a major rival. Ouch. Made me feel a little better.
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Wee fra
Your too kind!! thank you, Sleep well my friend.Your a lucky man, waking up to all those Chicks;), night.
Lily Grandpa
LG — Both went through the wringer…was a bit of an ordeal but they both a couple of tough cookies thankfully.
Im absolutely shattered and up for work in morn so must bid you good night my friend.
Hail hail
My Thoughts Are With Our Oppressed Christian Brethren Around The World….
Both ‘Tims’ ……And ‘Others’…
During This Most Trying Of ‘Months’….
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jul/9/saudi-arabia-foreigners-abide-muslim-ramadan-rules/
http://rt.com/news/peninsula-saudi-grand-mufti-701/
What Say You….
Summa Of Dhimmitude..?
jinky newton,
Take it easy bro!,Portugese summers are for promenading in, not running:)
Interesting points you make re Balde some of the comments on here last night were nothing short of scanalous,I hope he proves them all wrong.
Lilys Granpa
TSD
Ramadan in those Middle East countries which ban alcohol is an opportunity to tend the still or bottle more beer.
Unless things have changed in the last three decades. ;-)
The Herald
Malcolm Murray breaks silence after being forced out of Rangers
Wednesday 10 July 2013…………………………
…..”My previously criticised silence was observed in the best interests of Rangers.
Could there be a parallel to Celtic in this?
Malcolm Murray sounds like a good bloke.
I`m glad he`s gone.
David villa barca – athletico – £4m
Victor Celtic to Southampton £12.5 m
And add ons and were moaning ??
Gees peace
pauloantony, great money that would be mad to turndown, lets hope we use it wisely and by that i mean strengthen the team & the squad with quality not quantity, something we have yet to master!
Well when it comes to the appropriate plans and general vision for Celtic football club its so comforting to note that most Celtic supporters vision for the future of Celtic is like the bored’s….mare shite!
BTW
what ur the huns daein? TM – Celtic Bored
praecepta
00:03 on
11 July, 2013
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…” 23:51
Heard PP on radio the other day giving odds on the name.
Shortest odds for girl’s name (favourite) – Charlotte!
LOL! That’s hilarious mate! If you were going to make up an hilarious fiction involving huns etc. over the past couple of years you wouldn’t have been able to top what’s actually happened. I ain’t faking…
Margaret McGill
01:29 on
11 July, 2013
Well when it comes to the appropriate plans and general vision for Celtic football club its so comforting to note that most Celtic supporters vision for the future of Celtic is like the bored’s….mare shite!
What part of Celtic’s plans and general vision is it that’s shite?
Mag.
mare shite?
Intentional or Freudian?
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
01:38 on 11 July, 2013
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
…pretty shite naw?
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Mad About the Bhoy….
Courtesy georgeweahscousin
So, it’s been a saga, it’s been painful and it’s caused friction between clubs, representatives and fans, but barring a medical disaster it would seem Celtic’s Kenyan international midfielder Victor Wanyama will become a Saint in the next 48 hours. The Chairman looks to have won his battle with the agents and MoPo looks to have secured his second signing.
With a fee believed to be around £12 million, Saints fans will expect a lot from a player Celtic fans told us was too good to ever play for us.
I caught up with Joseph Ruddy from Celtic Journal to get the lowdown on the big man.
We are hearing great things about Wanyama, but from someone who has seen him week in/week out for the last 2 years, just how good is he?
‘In one word? Phenomenal. What a fantastic individual he is, he bosses the midfield, he makes that position his. Before we signed Wanyama, we had Kayal playing in his position (playing the best football he has for Celtic), and then Wanyama basically came in and said “this position is mine, sorry Kayal”. He is one of the best defensive midfielders in Europe at the moment, without question.
Seeing him week in week out he was always a standout performer. He is good in the air, he has unreal strength for his age, and he has some shot on him from long distance. We now have a huge hole in our team, something in which Southampton will have when he moves on again.’
Where will he fit into the Southampton team, and what are his greatest strengths and weaknesses?
‘Wanyama will play from game number one for Southampton. He will literally walk into the team and it will kill off another’s chances. I know coming from a Celtic fan, I will ‘big’ him up, but I’m being as honest as I can here with all bias comments aside. Victor has many strengths and very little weaknesses. His strength and aggression are certainly standouts. Honestly, once you see him play you will be shocked at the strength he has. He is good in the air, has a good bit of pace about his and he is a very determined player. When he wants to play, he will play. He is good at marking and picking up his man. His work rate is second to none and he even has a bit of dribbling ability! I’d probably say his main strengths are his stamina and leadership.
We’d have been lost in some games without his leadership. He has shot power, which is good for long range efforts. His long throw ins are another strength. Weaknesses? I’m struggling here to name any, but every player has them. His concentration? Sometimes he looked miles away in games, as if he wasn’t interested. Other than that, I can’t honestly name anymore!’
Our game is all about possession and I have heard Wanyama isn’t the best on the ball. Should that be a major worry?
‘This is a tricky question. Wanyama is extremely good at the short range passing, sort of Barca passing style, but his long range passing is woeful. Obviously I’m a bit lacking in knowledge of what sort of style Southampton play, but if it is to try and replicate that of Barca then you have nothing to worry about. If it is long ball possession play, then yeah, you won’t get very much contribution from Wanyama here! Possession is usually always about the short direct passes anyway, so you have nothing to worry about.’
Victor grabs the right move at last?
Celtic fans have reacted negatively to this move as they see it as a step down. Is this a mark of his popularity or a misunderstanding of Saints ambition?
‘If there is one Celtic fan out there who is angry at Victor Wanyama moving to Southampton because of his popularity among us, then he is no fan of Celtic. Wanyama will always be thought of very highly among Celtic fans, even though his spell was somewhat short. That’s nobody’s fault though, none of us knew just how good he would turn out to be. I’d say it’s down to the misunderstanding of Southampton’s ambition. I’ve heard a lot of fans mentioning this, but look at QPR last season! I’m not for one minute saying the same will happen at Southampton, but it’s always something to keep in mind when buying significantly in the transfer market.’
On the flipside some Saints fans are worried about paying such a price (a Scottish record) for an SPL player as often they flop in the Premier League. Fair point or overly negative view of the SPL?
‘100% overly negative view towards the SPL. Often players move to England from Celtic, or any club in Scotland in that matter. I think I can honestly say though that it’s not down to ‘winning a better league’ or ‘doing well in England’. It’s chasing the wage. Every player does it now; they are more interested in the wage on offer than what trophies they could win. It’s the sad day and age we are in at the moment. You only have to look at Falcao to confirm this.’
We have a growing army of Ex-Bhoys now, will there be any soft spots developing for Saints with Boruc and Wanyama likely to be regular starters?
‘You’ve forgotten Jos Hooiveld and Danny Fox! Truth be told, I like to see how all ex Celtic players are getting on. There’s a frightening amount of ex-players going around the now who’ve been at Celtic. Wigan, Southampton and Aberdeen are the main suspects, and then you have Swansea with Ki. I must admit, I like to watch Swansea play more than anyone elsein England, the football they play is outstanding! But back to the point, yeah not just myself but all Celtic fans will always keep a lookout for ex-players. Whenever one scores we go mental about it on Twitter! I’d like to quickly touch on one of your players, Luke Shaw. I love this boy, a wonderful left back with bags of potential. I predict a move to Arsenal next year!’
So there we have it, all in all this looks to be an extremely positive signing for Saints, and one that I get the feeling will become a fans favourite pretty quickly!
All eyes on the official twitter account tomorrow!
Summa
George Osbourne’s plans to raise money through a £3bn flotation of the Royal Mail are moving forward with the appointment of investment banks Goldman Sachs and UBS as advisers. How patriotic that he should pick an American and a Swiss bank to sell off Britain’s family silver! And how generous of him to overlook their chequered history in the City.
Goldman was criticized by the National Audit office after collecting a £4m success fee for its work for the UK government during the Northern Rock collapse—“even though”, as the NAO noted, “there was no clear definition of success”.
UBS is no better. After losing billions in the credit crunch, its London office lost a further £1.5bn when trader Kweku Adoboli went rogue in 2011. UBS was fined a record £29.7m by the Financial Services Authority last year because of its lax internal controls. Clearly the Royal Mail’s in safe hands….
Margaret McGill
01:44 on
11 July, 2013
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
01:38 on 11 July, 2013
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
…pretty shite naw?
Shop windowing EPL fodder. Selling VW? He was offered an improved contract and refused. He’s delighted to go to Southampton. He gets bad advice probably. What to do?
Nice turnover? Improved on last year but not guaranteed next year – various round to negotiate first.
Last 16 in Europe if yer lucky? We should aim to win everything but are you suggesting that it is realistic to win the Champs League year next year? What will we use to assemble the £150M team that would be needed?
Wait and see what the huns are daein? I think we can all see that the huns will be in no position to complete with us for years unless some other idiot comes in with a shedload of cash to spunk.
From what I can see we’re making steady progress but I’m open to suggestions as to how we can win the Champs League next year.
Number crunching
50/50 – chances of heads or tails
50/50 – percentage of Tims who think huns are zombies and percentage of huns who think tims urny!
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:03 on 11 July, 2013
Yup as I said
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:03 on 11 July, 2013
As you know by huns I include SFA/SFL/SPL or whatever they call the new hun ascendancy organization these days
Margaret McGill
02:06 on
11 July, 2013
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:03 on 11 July, 2013
Yup as I said
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
What’s your proposition?
Margaret McGill
02:07 on
11 July, 2013
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:03 on 11 July, 2013
As you know by huns I include SFA/SFL/SPL or whatever they call the new hun ascendancy organization these days
No argument from me there mate – Celtic have never been part of the establishment and in the past have had no or little representation. This is a function of Scotland as a society overall – not just football. However, the way to change this is not to run away from it but to take it on.
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:16 on 11 July, 2013
exactly!
So Celtic should sue them. (SFA/SPL/SFL or whatever the hun ascendancy organization call themselves these days)
For misrepresentation
For facilitating corruption
For not paying their taxes that Celtic had to
For depraved indifference to the integrity of the game
For encouraging discrimination, sectarianism and cheating.
Its all out there and the bored are…
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
I cannot beieive that the huns won 22 trophies by cheating, historic cheating of gargantuan proprtions and celtic (the main historic benefactor do nothing)
Yet Celtic behave like a battered wife!
…pretty shite naw?
Evenin all,
Is it safe to read back yet?
It’s getting harder and harder to skip by the whingeing on here these days.
People moaning about tactics, moaning about results, moaning about getting the results, but without the right tactics, moaning about…well, anything that gives the opportunity.
We’ve got a manager who can nurture inexperienced talent, utilise their potential for success AND turn them into massive profit winners – on top of that, I wasn’t too disappointed in our success in the Champions League on the way to the final 16.
For those that want to winge about the team in a feckin pre-season warm-up, I’ll ask, how do you prepare to return to work on Sunday night? And are you delivering better results, increased profit, and a bigger customer base while working on a decimated budget? And can you still manage to entertain on command at any given minute?
Muppetry at it’s best here at times. Infuriating.
On a note that SHOULD be of concern…
I see that Strathy’s Finest had a good pre-season friendly warm-up out walking with their pals on Saturday. Anyone know what their manager’s tactics will be when they next attack the GB?
PS When the feck is SFTB back? Pray God, soon!! One of the few with the patience, resilience and eloquence to sort out the post-game moaning that’s becoming more and more a depressing part of CQN on matters that should be of less relevance than others :((
FFM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e9CkhBb18E
Margaret McGill @ 02:03
Only heard about this as BBC news came on before I had a chance to switch it off, with Vince Cable advising on the benefits of government control moving away from the PO :))
The key question which the meeja avoid in scenarios like this, is how much the govt are giving the interest parties in financial incentives to invest…
Money’s a right merry go round for vultures – no wonder they circle.
Margaret McGill
02:24 on
11 July, 2013
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:16 on 11 July, 2013
exactly!
So Celtic should sue them. (SFA/SPL/SFL or whatever the hun ascendancy organization call themselves these days)
For misrepresentation
For facilitating corruption
For not paying their taxes that Celtic had to
For depraved indifference to the integrity of the game
For encouraging discrimination, sectarianism and cheating.
Its all out there and the bored are…
Shop windowing EPL fodder
Nice turnover
last 16 in Europe if yer lucky
Wait and see what the huns are daein?
I cannot beieive that the huns won 22 trophies by cheating, historic cheating of gargantuan proprtions and celtic (the main historic benefactor do nothing)
Yet Celtic behave like a battered wife!
…pretty shite naw?
We agree on the nature of the problem. Not sure Celtic could sue the SPL – Celtic are an equal partner in the SPL. Celtic are the biggest club partner in the SPL. Who would pay out to us? Us?
Sue the SFA? I’d be surprised if it’s not been discussed in the Celtic boardroom. Fergus got some satisfaction from Jim Farry’s resignation. He had pretty good evidence to go on. Do we have the same? If we do then we have the option. If not then we can ake our presence felt in other ways. If you think there’s be no kind of full and frank discussion between Celtic and the SFA I’m surprised. There’s more than one way to skin a cat.
Anyway – quid pro quo – what’s you proposition for winning the Champs League next year?
Outgoing Sevco Chairman breaks his “dignified silence”
In the open letter, released to Press Association Sport, Murray said: “I make this statement not for self-gratification or sour grapes but because so many fans have told me that dignified silence will be seen as a sign of disrespect.
“My previously criticised silence was observed in the best interests of Rangers.
“I was chairman of this great club for arguably the most difficult year in its long history.
“I was recommended for the role by the investment institutions because of my strong record of honesty, integrity and my successful stewardship, of a 25% shareholding in Manchester United from the bottom to the top but not least because I am a Rangers fan and everything I have done or do is for the club and not self-interest or financial gain.
“It has been a difficult shift and I’d like to thank you, the fans, for your support which I enjoyed as recently as Sunday when I drove over 600 miles to Brora.
“I would also like to thank my wife and daughter for their patience and endurance of great hardship – including no holiday for a year and harassment by journalists in their own garden.
“During the dark days of last summer I put a six-figure sum into the club to literally stop the lights going out at Ibrox at a time when we were in real danger.
“My family have given things up to help save Rangers in this difficult year. There aren’t many wives who would let their husband pay someone else’s significant electricity bill.
“You and I want a squeaky-clean club run by men of the highest integrity and global commercial ability and the highest level of transparency.
“The reason we went down the flotation route was to guarantee transparency, whereas ownership by mysterious individuals does not.
“Events of the last year have seen behaviour that would make the late, great Bill Struth spin in his grave.
“The loss of two men (Phil and myself) with such lengthy financial public company experience and a quality broker will undoubtedly raise questions amongst our institutional shareholders.
“Only time will tell how they will react. These investors and you are our future and you must be listened to and given transparency.
“We cannot go back to the depths of the last two years, we need to hold course. Corporate transparency is the norm and we should embrace it rather than change course when difficult questions are asked.”
The letter continued: “My family and I will always be fans and season ticket holders and I will remain a shareholder and use whatever influence I have to help the Rangers. I want the best for our club both on and off the pitch.
“I want our fans to be talking about football and the development of our rich history and culture. I hope to be the only chairman in our history to preside over a Third Division title!”
HH
Mags @ 02:36
:)) Actually no.
Was a go at people moaning about the football result(s).
As for the “bored” – they’ve some serious questions to ask imo.
But I suppose if they were worried about that, some obscure loss to a 2nd division German team might stop folk remembering that there are issues needing addressed regarding the treatment of the Celtic Support.
I take it Australia is awake and advancing fairly…?!
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
02:34 on
11 July, 2013
Strongly Agree.
What did this mean?
“Turn your attention on the support, huns, as the PLC aren’t going to tolerate it any more”??
http://youtu.be/AYnTFbWLw6Y?t=5m11s
Am i the only one who thinks celtic wanted this vic transfer more than vic himself ?
Vic stated he’s happy to stay another season -doesnt fancy another contract sadly-his choice
Southampton first bid we recieved from what we know and it was accepted straight away.
Vic declines move to southampton
They come back ,celtic accept again and vic same as mcgeady told its too good for celtic to turn down.
Vic will probably accept cause despite it only being southampton he will double his cash, and play on the hollywood stage everyweek.
I dont blame celtic for wanting him out now because if he wont sign new deal then nxt season we will have hooper saga again where if he goes it will be for alot less than what hes worth.
The gamble would be- keep him and if he gets us to group stage again,money made and we can then sell january or next summer and still make a decent profit.
Still great position to be in. Could be alot worse. Look how the other half live :-)
NatKnow @ 02:51
Thanks amigo.
Hasten to add though, I’m on here to tonight to moan about the “bored” :)) (Not the finances though – the issue with the GB is what gets me, and sweeteners such as a 20% reduction in cost I’d do without if it meant getting that resolved. But it’s possible I’m in the minority now. As a support we’re now finding ourselves divided in several ways. This is what works for the money men. The victims? The element of the support by whom the money men feel most threatened – the GB. This is a serious issue for me, but sadly, it’s become a divisive subject. We lose.
proudbhoy
02:57 on
11 July, 2013
Am i the only one who thinks celtic wanted this vic transfer more than vic himself ?
Vic stated he’s happy to stay another season -doesnt fancy another contract sadly-his choice
Southampton first bid we recieved from what we know and it was accepted straight away.
Vic declines move to southampton
They come back ,celtic accept again and vic same as mcgeady told its too good for celtic to turn down.
Vic will probably accept cause despite it only being southampton he will double his cash, and play on the hollywood stage everyweek.
I dont blame celtic for wanting him out now because if he wont sign new deal then nxt season we will have hooper saga again where if he goes it will be for alot less than what hes worth.
The gamble would be- keep him and if he gets us to group stage again,money made and we can then sell january or next summer and still make a decent profit.
Still great position to be in. Could be alot worse. Look how the other half live :-)
I don’t think the club want it more – if the club wanted it more they wouldn’t have bothered offering him improved terms at all. As you correctly state – they did offer him an improved contract and he refused (on advice from his agent). At that point it was clear that VW wanted to move. He’s probably surprised that no club of note have come in for him, but he’s clearly happy to step onto the next stone.
I think it is interesting that a bigger club has not come in and that Celtic are happy with £12.5M. Makes me wonder if there’s something we don’t know?
proudbhoy
100% correct.
The transfer fee was agreed well before the player’s terms. Simple as that. Vic was going whether he wanted to or not.
Don’t have a big issue with that myself – we’ve got constricting issues due to where we are, so need to be ruthless. But got to laugh at those who fail to see that and losing respect for the player, who for all we know, might well have preferred to stay here for all any of us know.
Fholk are too busy whingeing here at times to look at the bigger picture and see things for what they are.
I blame a lifetime of MSM force-feeding, and a hint of thatcherite self-centred-ness. None of these things are the fault of the weans that grew up victims of them. Peace to all. :)
NatKnow – “We welcome the paper-chase…”
02:49 on
11 July, 2013
I take it Australia is awake and advancing fairly…?
AND rejoicing.
Who wouldn`t rejoice when you`re young and free?
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
03:00 on
11 July, 2013
NatKnow @ 02:51
Thanks amigo.
Hasten to add though, I’m on here to tonight to moan about the “bored” :)) (Not the finances though – the issue with the GB is what gets me, and sweeteners such as a 20% reduction in cost I’d do without if it meant getting that resolved. But it’s possible I’m in the minority now. As a support we’re now finding ourselves divided in several ways. This is what works for the money men. The victims? The element of the support by whom the money men feel most threatened – the GB. This is a serious issue for me, but sadly, it’s become a divisive subject. We lose.
It is a divisive subject mate. It’s also an interesting one. I used to stand in the Jungle singing my lungs out in the days when football (not just Celtic) was less corporate. When I look at the GB I see myself a number of years back, minus the creativity and glamour!
What part of the GB issue do you have a problem with? (there are a few possibilities)