Principled resignations, ASA withdraw adjudication

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I cannot fathom why someone would leak their intentions to quit as chairman of a football club.  Either Walter Smith is sufficiently alarmed by the conduct of his club to resign, or he should be busy working to resolve matters.  Leaking that he intends to resign will surely only add to the nonsense that surrounds the club.

Some will believe that Smith, who accepted the position as chairman of Rangers International when season tickets went on sale in May, can shuffle of the scene now 34,000 tickets have been sold.  Shareholder votes will determine the future of the club, in this instance, the identity of the chairman has little reach beyond parting fans with their cash.

Some investors may consider a more immediate problem is why the club are burning a hugely disproportionate amount of cash to secure promotion from the third tier of Scottish football, and why a management structure is not in place to deploy resources more effectively.

In light of Francisco Sandaza’s off-the-cuff comments to Tommy in Glasgow, and his subsequent dismissal by Rangers International, we urge Mr McCoist to be more cautious than he was after his team’s spirited, but ultimately fruitless, performance in Forfar on Saturday.  It would be unfortunate if McCoist transgressed a condition of employment and suffered accordingly.

Advertising Standards Authority ruling withdrawn

It doesn’t rain but it pours.  The Independent Review Process of the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has looked into the ASA’s recent, and widely reported, ruling on Rangers International’s claim on football titles won by a liquidated club. The Review found that “it was a procedural flaw for the ASA to have relied on an extract only of a report sent to it by the advertiser”.

Further, the review process ruled that “there was also the risk of a substantial flaw of adjudication in the distinction that had been made between ‘club’ and ‘company’, especially in the light of previous ASA decisions about companies that change hands and the circumstances in which the new company could or could not trade off the reputation of the old company”.

The Chairman of the ASA, Lord Smith of Finsbury, as decided to reopen the ASA’s investigation into the case and to withdraw the published adjudication, which favoured the advertiser.  Withdrawing this adjudication does not infer that a different outcome will subsequently be reached.  To use a football analogy, it’s half time and they’re all square.

An interesting, and potentially critical part of the story, is that after the initial ASA decision was issued, the club’s web site noted that their submission to the process included information that a “panel of the London Stock Exchange” supported their claim.

The Stock Exchange subsequently appeared surprised at this assertion, so much so that the club promptly withdrew the claim from the web article.

“You’re history, that’s what you are, na na na na”.
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  1. Don’t worry about the atmosphere at CP everyone Tonydonnelly67 and his ilk will fill the void left by the GB – but without the lateral movement.

     

    They promise a wall of (sanitized) noise, a selection of carefully vetted song to avoid offending anyone and colorful yet tasteful displays with no spelling mistakes or naughty words.

  2. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:13 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    I don’t know if John Reid is a War Criminal, it’s not my position to judge but I do think that the legality or not of the Iraq War is an example of “real important stff.” I’d wager quite a few people would agree.

  3. Yep that’s me lads you have found me out, I am a Celtic supporter, I am not in the Green Brigade and I am not an apolligist <——– (spelling mistake) for the green brigade, if it ever comes to pass that you have to LIKE or JOIN the GB to prove you are a Celtic Supporter, the the Rebel in me will tell you to F.O.

  4. Ffm. Apologies. …damn predictive text…meant to say “condemn” pyrotechnics.

     

     

    I am obviously not a member of the green brigade but i do love what they bring to the game from what i see from my seats in the family stand. I am one of the few who joins in with the singing and tries to create more of an atmosphere in that area. Except for champions league nights I might as well not bother as most folk just sit there in silence or start berating a player if a pass goes astray. Yes, if someone set off a flare in my area I would shop them. I’ve got 3 youngsters that I bring to the game and don’t want them inhaling that smoke or being scared.

     

     

    It sounds like you or someone close to you has been victimised as a result of either being in the GB or sitting in section 111. That is totally unacceptable and to me there is nothing worse than the abuse of power or being unfairly accused of something or victimised.

     

     

    If you fail to see there is a health and safety issue in lateral movement then fine. We can agree to differ.

     

     

    I am not as involved as you with this issue directly and your story worries me greatly.

  5. Stairheedrammy on

    TonyD- what if the GB sell stuff- what do you think pays for the displays- displays that Celtic often use in their merchandising

  6. Stairheedrammy on

    7000 dobbers stood for every game at CP and jumped up and down in a synchronized re-enactment of killing a catholic- no threats of a ban.

  7. maleys bhoy

     

     

    I’ve no personal involvement with any of the Celtic Supporters who’ve been victimised in the last few years, intimidated by the rozzers, arrested on fake charges at their place of work, in dawn raids at their homes.

     

     

    it doesn’t stop me being concerned and angry though. This is my point. Why does it take what you think is a personal involvement of mine for you to express any concern about this?

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    Tom..

     

     

    The First rule of Kiddy on Fighting on CQN..

     

     

    Is..

     

     

    We Don’t talk about Kiddy on Fighting on CQN..

     

     

    I would say it was Crowd Surfing not Moshing in a Mosh Pit..which basically is Kiddy on Surfing..where a Wipe out involves Concrete Steps instead of Surf..

     

     

    Summa

     

     

    Ps..Howevvva..

     

     

    Kiddy on Being a Diddy Manager has been Prevalent on CQN since Paul67 wrote the 4 Part..How to beat Rangers..

     

     

    and Never mentioned they would beat themselves..lol

  9. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    fortunes favour mibbes

     

     

    07:11 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    Mibbes aye mibbes naw.

     

     

    I think that Scotland is very closely linked to NI. Expressions of Irish identity are “frowned upon” in both jurisdictions. The SNP reckoned that Celtic fhans were getting away with too much by far and so passed their crazy law in order to quell this uppityness.

     

     

    The law-makers in Holyrood want certain songs and traditions to be illegal and believe that if they keep wishing hard enough then this might come true. Unfortunately they may very well be right.

  10. Stairheedrammy

     

    07:27 on

     

    6 August, 2013

     

     

    Dont go pointing out the hypocrisy of the Holy trinity PL, GCC h&s and Police Scotland, remember the golden rule we need them to save Scottish football

  11. I buy my Celtic gear from the official shop, and my money goes to the club not the green brigade, the green brigade punt there own gear what they do with the money I have not got a clue, if they buy stuff for the games so what ? They make profit and buy smoke bombs and fireworks, I buy my home and awat shirt BUT as I said my money goes where I want it to go, CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB.

  12. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:24 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    Dunno, you brought up the subject of john reid and war criminal.

  13. Steinreignedsupreme on

    tonydonnelly67 07:13 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    John Reid – not a character I have much time for to be honest.

     

     

    But he is not a ‘war criminal’ – he was part of a Government that was desperate to invade Iraq to appease the USA … and against the wishes of millions of people.

     

     

    That doesn’t make him a ‘war criminal’ though.

  14. A Stor Mo Chroi on

    tonydonnelly67:

     

     

    They buy season tickets, they support the team both home, away and abroad. Do you? I think you don’t get it.

  15. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:22 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    You don’t have to join the Green Brigade to be a Celtic supporter. You don’t even need to own a season ticket to be a Celtic supporter.

     

     

    But if a Celtic fhan wants to buy a season ticket and join the Green Brigade why do you think you have the right to forbid it?

  16. Now you all have to pay attention, I did not say John Reid was a war criminal, I was quoting what the green brigade called him, I think John Reid is a very clever man, and a good Tim, so there ;)

  17. Dubaibhoy-"If I signed off the accounts it has been in good faith." on

    Be interesting to see our away support this season…

  18. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:42 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    You still brought the subject up though;o)

  19. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:44 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    Supporting the team in the real Celtic way? Like insisting on flying a tricolour at Celtic Park, despite the SFA threatening to close the ground down?

  20. Pay attention AGAIN, I do not forbid anyone to buy a season ticket and join the green Brigade, I said if it ever come to pass that you have to join them as in a prerequisite then you will be told to F.O., have another look and read it slowly.

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    Courtesy The Herald..

     

     

    Brown: we will look after Samaras

     

     

    Graeme Macpherson

     

     

    SCOTT BROWN, the Celtic captain, has vowed that he and his team-mates will have Georgios Samaras’ back should IF Elfsborg target the Greek again in the return leg of the sides’ Cham­pions League third round qualifying tie tomorrow night.

     

     

    Samaras was the subject of some heavy treatment in the first leg, eventually settled by Kris Commons’ second-half goal, with four Elfsborg players booked for fouls on the Celtic forward.

     

     

    James Keene, Elfsborg’s English striker, made it clear that Elfsborg plan on adopting similar tactics in the return match in the Boras Arena, revealing that “there will be a few more tackles waiting for him in Sweden”. That has annoyed Brown, who stated the Celtic players would form a unified front as they look to make it through to the play-off round of the competition.

     

     

    “If they are going to single Sami out for special treatment, that should be fun,” said Brown. “A few of the lads will help Sami out; that’s for sure. We are a tight group of players. We have lunch together, we have a bit of craic in the gym and games room, and enjoy the banter. But as soon as we go on the pitch, we all stick up for each other. Is it all for one, one for all? Yeah it is.”

     

     

    Brown, who was helping launch the club’s new away kit, felt that Celtic handled the Swedes’ heavy treatment well in the first game. “Elfsborg went in to win every ball and tried to put pressure on us, especially in the first half,” he added.

     

     

    “It worked at the start as we didn’t play that well, but we came out in the second half and had a lot more control of the ball. They didn’t get as many tackles in. We moved the ball a lot quicker.”

     

     

    Manager Neil Lennon admitted after Saturday’s opening day league victory over Ross County that he was close to agreeing a new one-year rolling contract, something which pleased Brown. “The manager signing a new deal would be a boost for everybody at the club,” said the midfielder. “He enjoys the job. He passes on everything he did in his career and helps us in every way.”

     

     

    Summa

  22. John Reid = Hypocrite extraordinaire. Knew most of the reb song book by heart and was known to belt out a few ‘party songs’ from time to time. One of the worst Celtic chairmen we have ever had the misfortune to have –did hee haw for the club or support.

     

     

    As for war criminal – The unprovoked attack on a soverign nation is a war crime by UN definition. Hence a member of a goverment that insitgates such an unprovoked attack is, again by UN defintion, a war criminal. Iraq posed no threat to the UK or the USA.

  23. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:46 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    I don’t know why you brought it up. However, you asked me what the iraq war had to do with Celtic and I told you I hadn’t mentioned it or thought about it until after you raised John Reid and war criminal.

  24. Did they close it down? No they didn’t, will they close it down if the GB keep doing what have been tol not to do, dam right they will quicker than you can blink, do you not know who you are up against COPS the biggest gang in Scotland, and you had better be right.

  25. A Stor Mo Chroi on

    What did the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia have to do with Mr. Kelly and Celtic?

  26. West Wales Celt on

    Really sad but wholly predictable news concerning the break up of section 111.

     

     

    I’m not in a position to make any judgements about the GB but it does seem that in the ongoing sanitisation of ‘acceptable’ political thought Celtic FC are, at best, reluctant participants.

     

     

    I came to love Celtic not by birthright but precisely because of the unsanitised nature of many of its fans. Its always a sad day when the Celtic family seem to be moving inexorably from being ‘more than just a club’ towards being ‘just another club’.

     

     

    I sincerely hope that its not too late for a compromise to be found…

  27. Marrakesh Express on

    A stor mor chroi

     

    01.40

     

     

    Gets right to the point. For me you are spot on.

     

     

    hh

  28. A Stor Mo Chroi on

    oglach:

     

     

    You’re wrong… Iraq had all those Weapons of Mass Destruction, don’t you remember?

  29. Now we got all the GB lickspittle coming out with there left wing agenda on the war in Iraq, this is my point that is what they are all about, Celtic Supporters my arse, and I am only talking about there leaders not the young kids who join them and have not got a clue what they are all about, any way time for my medication, it’s been a slice, HAIL HAIL.

  30. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:51 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    No your stated opinion is that the Green Brigade sell merch. This means that they want as much publicity as they can get so they can sell more merch. Therefore, they put themselves in front of the Club and do not support the team in the real Celtic way. Thus their membership are lesser supporters in comparison to you. You buy all your kit from the Celtic Store and you know for a fact that they don’t

     

     

    You haven’t said that people can’t join the Green Brigade, you just can’t understand why anyone would want to.

  31. Top of the morning to you all from a sunny Fife.

     

     

    What larks at Ibrox eh?

     

     

    Google “Famous Scottish Freemasons” and you will find that Walter and Alistair feature prominently.

     

     

    This explains why, without putting any money into the club, they are important. They have the ear of the support, their brethren in this, the most Masonic of Scottish institutions.

     

     

    In the other corner are the people who have put the money into the club, the Spivs who demand a return on their investment, which at the minute looks to be in doubt as the hapless manager pays huge wages to a growing staff and falls at every hurdle that cup competitions present.

     

     

    A cynic might think that Walter and Ally are deliberately running the club into a second bankruptcy so that they and their pals can get it for nothing this time around.

     

     

    Who will win the power struggle? The Spivs with the money, or the Masons with their command of the support and the referees?

     

     

    Bump for this petition calling for a register of freemasons, etc.

     

    http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/GettingInvolved/Petitions/judgesmasonregister

     

     

    Viva la Brigada Verde

  32. stairheedrammy

     

     

    07:27 on 6 August, 2013

     

    7000 dobbers stood for every game at CP and jumped up and down in a synchronized re-enactment of killing a catholic- no threats of a ban.

     

     

    Spot on , it’s the two faced approach from the board that annoys me . They let the bigot hoards destroy areas of our stadium and didn’t ban them but they want to ban some of our own supporters for jumping around ????

     

    They have stood by and watched our club being cheated by referees on a regular basis , and appear to do nothing about it .

     

    They had the chance to stand up for our Club and all of Scottish football during this ongoing RFC old club – new club saga but have remained quiet , our club was cheated out of trophies and millions of pounds of potential earnings in Europe but still the silence was /is deafening .

     

    They have been quite happy to earn money off the back of the GB displays but not contribute towards the cost.

     

    There are faults on both sides but the board need to start standing up for the Club and its supporters.

     

    HH

  33. thebhoywithmcgraininhisside on

    tonydonnelly67

     

     

    07:51 on 6 August, 2013

     

     

    You hold the Green Brigade and their “lickspittle” supporters in contempt. Celtic” is a Club open to all. But it looks like if you had way, you’d show a few the door and would let others know that they need not apply.

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