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Signing players on and off strategy

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Bobby Collins left Celtic in 1958 after nine years’ service.  He’d won the Cup, the Double, the Coronation Cup, and, of course, the 1957 League Cup Final – Hampden in the Sun, Celtic 7, Rangers 1.

He went on to have a great career at Everton and to make a transformational contribution to Leeds United, but he will forever be a team mate of Sean Fallon, Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock, Neil Mochan and Charles Patrick Tully.  Our thoughts go to his family and friends today.

Over the last year or so we’ve asked the question, how many appearances a player needs to make in a well-scouted league to allow an agile club to discover him, before the hoards arrive and price-away any value in him?

Victor Wanyama made 50 appearances in Belgium before we nabbed him but he was knocking back substantially improved contracts from Celtic after only 30 games (which is a different point); England had already taken notice.  Virgil van Dijk made 62 appearances for Groningen, would we have been able to sign him on the kind of money we did if he’d stayed for another 30-or-so games?  It’s unlikely.

Amido Balde made 27 top flight appearances before arriving here, while Teemu Pukki played 37 times for Schalke – enough to score 8 times but there would have been little game time for Celtic scouts to watch him.

In the summer we concluded that there was a 50-80 game value opportunity.  Below this and you’ll struggle to find a player who has developed sufficiently for our agile scouts to be on the case and to do their work properly.  Above this and any player worth a punt will be packing stands with scouts from all over Europe.

If we’re signing someone without the necessary miles on the clock, he’s a punt and should be considered off strategy.  If we’re singing someone who has been watched by dozens of scouts, chances are, at best, he will be no more than a decent return on our money, there will be no hidden value.

Stefan Johansen has made 67 top flight appearances for Norwegian champions, Stromsgodset.  Enough for him to develop into a player who can attract the most agile to Norway, not enough for him to attract those who seem to use Fifa 14 as their primary recruitment database, so he’s on strategy, as far as our 50-80 game value opportunity theory goes.
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  1. Burgas Hoops.

     

    What a beautiful siberian husky pup.looks a fantastic dog and i have had the pleasure of meeting a couple of fully grown ones whilst walking in Cairngorms in deep snow.

     

    Really does warm your heart seeing them in there proper environment.The owner was from Aviemore and took part in the annual Husky race there and said this was just a ‘wee’walk for them.Glad you have the acre of space as that husky owner was lamenting the fact that such beautiful animals should not really be up tenements or with lazy owners as they need plenty of exercise.Thanks for that memory mate

     

     

    Hail hail

  2. Steinreignedsupreme on

    ToneLoc #FearlessOscarKnox 15:05 on 14 January, 2014

     

     

    “Jim Melrose went to Man City from Celtic but ended up at Charlton”

     

     

    Maybe that was it.

     

     

    I remember hearing a Charlton fan on the tube telling his mate: “We just signed two players that were at Celtic. So they must be pretty decent.”

     

     

    He was half right. I didn’t have the heart to tell him Melrose was a fud.

  3. I really hope we get the Johansen fella. This possible deal has the feelgood factor about it.

     

    Biton is also looking like a very,very good player. I quite liked Victor but getting £12 million for him was a fantastic deal. I know when players leave they become exponentially better in the eyes of many but I didn`t think we would miss Victor and I don`t think we do. Hooper I thought we would miss and we do but we seem to be doing reasonably well regardless.

     

     

    JJ

  4. Hamilton Accies FC ‏@acciesfc 44m

     

    We can confirm loan signing of Northern Irish midfielder Paul George, 20 later this month, from Celtic, till end of season

  5. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    BILLY BHOY 05

     

     

    Perhaps the SNP are regretting their role in elevating Thatcher to power?

     

     

    Not heard much from them on that subject.

  6. Afternoon all.

     

     

    Would like to wish Miss Tallybhoy – Erica – a very happy 19th birthday.

     

     

    Enjoy your last year as a teenager sweetheart!

     

     

    HH!!

  7. EastCoast BHOY on

    The Moon Bhoys

     

    For Dave King to acquire Sevco he will need to buy the spiv shares that is not solving their problem or bailing them out.Their expenditure is running well ahead of revenue unless that is addressed Sevco will enter administration. If they do cut back on expenditure i.e team/management they will not challenge us for years

     

    HH.

  8. “Perhaps the SNP are regretting their role in elevating Thatcher to power?”

     

     

    Good point, often forgotten

  9. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    TALLYBHOY

     

     

    Many HOOOOOOPY returns to your daughter.

     

     

    I trust you have told her it’s all downhill now?

     

     

    Hope yer still enjoying it up there. Sounds like you had a great night in The Maharani.

     

     

    I had one of them planned too-but someone spread a nasty evil rumour that it was closed for renovations.

     

     

    Still,saved me missing the train!

  10. Was fortunate to see Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock, Neil Mochan and Bobby Collins in action, and Bertie Auld in his first spell with Celtic. As a mere young Bhoy I remember getting the steam train (with the individual compartments in the carriages) from Drumry to High Street or maybe Belgrove to the game.

  11. glendalystonsils on

    When Jim Melrose came to us from Partick Thistle he definitely disproved the theory that players become exponentially better when they move on to a bigger club.

  12. Billy Bhoy 05

     

     

    15:18 on 14 January, 2014

     

     

    Do the SNP have any policy documents on Stornoway black pudding?

     

     

    If so I’d be obliged if you would copy and paste them for us.

  13. corkcelt- SUPPORTING THE DAM 5 on

    Sky Sports also reporting that Paul George is gone to Hamilton on loan till end of season but so far nothing on Official Site, nothing there either about Rogic going to the J League.

  14. An Tearmann.

     

     

    Sorry for the late reply, i’m happy you enjoyed the picture.

     

     

    Hard work but worth every nano-second.

  15. BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS .........FC not PLC on

    JUNGLE JIM

     

     

    For an English teacher,yer spelling of Eureka is atrocious.

     

     

    The fact that I can spell atrocious,wow,I’m so proud….

  16. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    The Moon Bhoys

     

    Read somewhere recently(i Know)that if anyone buys shares ofn over 30% no matter what the price(5p) they have to offer a 12 month high price offer 91p to the other 70% of shareholders.

     

     

    So dont expect to see “the glib shameless liar” make his move yet he will not pay, but will try eventually to pick them out the gutter if he has a chance but for now the spivs hold all the aces:))

  17. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPY Birthday

     

    Miss Tallybhoy – Erica

     

    Make sure yer Da takes you shopping :))

  18. leftclick together we will get justice for the dam 5

     

     

    15:54 on 14 January, 2014

     

     

     

    Allan G Price twitter

     

     

    If Easdale is the purchaser or gets proxy over today’s 4% share trade, he’ll have to launch a full takeover bid. Would break 30% barrier

  19. Philbhoy - Free the Dam 5! on

    Burgas Hoops

     

     

    Can you repost the pic of the dog with the blue eyes please.

     

     

    I don’t have time to scroll back. (busy at work)

     

     

    Many thanks!

  20. CorkCelt

     

    Don’t believe everything you hear of Sly Sports News

     

    They pander to that shower of Spivs across the City

     

    & basically talk a load of BS

  21. Ernie why pick on Stornoway Black Pudding? Only this morning you informed me it was no better than your local product. This is surely black puddingism at it’s worst,should have no place on this blog-outraged Hail Hail Hebcelt

  22. leftclick Together we will get justice for the Dam 5 on

    starry plough forza oscar

     

    I honestly dont know the answer bud.

     

     

    Wheter he was or wasn’t would it make any difference in Scotland

     

    :))

     

    Usual law says banned from being a director in a football clubfor 5 years but read he could be an absent landlord the powers in sevconia will bend whatever way is needed.

  23. BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS ………FC not PLC

     

    15:37 on

     

    14 January, 2014

     

    BILLY BHOY 05

     

     

    Perhaps the SNP are regretting their role in elevating Thatcher to power?

     

     

    Not heard much from them on that subject.

     

     

    without getting into the crapaboutery, that my friend is the essence of the Labour Party and their betrayal of the working class.

     

    Did the SNP stop you burying your dead?- no

     

    Did the SNP bring bout winter of discontent?-no

     

    Where was your local pile of rat infested rubbish?every area had 1

     

     

    What about Bliar and war,

     

    Brown and the redistribution of wealth from poor to rich?

     

     

    All under the Labour Party,that of the working man

     

     

    Bobby I have never voted either Labour or SNP in my life,never will

     

     

    but due to my own life experience,if given the chance to vote to for scottish independence

     

     

    I will grab it with both hands,

     

     

    The finest example of the union,its corruption,its wrongdoing,in all its various bigoted identities sits Ibrox.

     

     

    Hail Hail my friend

  24. The Moon Bhoys on

    Starry Plough – NO – he’s not banned unfortunately, he can invest in whatever he chooses, however if he wanted to become a SEVCO director for example, he would have to get by Campbell Ogilvie’s fit and proper person test – a shoe in I would think.

  25. Ron Bacardi 15:46 on 14 January, 2014

     

    Was fortunate to see Willie Fernie, Bertie Peacock, Neil Mochan and Bobby Collins in action, and Bertie Auld in his first spell with Celtic. As a mere young Bhoy I remember getting the steam train (with the individual compartments in the carriages) from Drumry to High Street or maybe Belgrove to the game.

     

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    How could I forget Bobby Evans and Frank Haffey, and Paddy Crerand especially since he played for the great Duntocher Hibs

  26. HebCelt without starting the great Blackpudding debate,Which one (of Macleod) is the correct one?

  27. Steinreignedsupreme

     

    16:03 on

     

    14 January, 2014

     

    I’ve heard this is the guy buying up the Sevco shares.

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgHlAdSpn7Y

     

     

    Will he ever learn his lesson?

     

     

    No this is the Man who needs his napper examined by a shrink.

     

    & that car is like something out of wheelers liar dealers needing

     

    renovation to the new millenium

  28. Why would dave King ride to the rescue at 24p when he can wait and buy the whole thing for much much less?

  29. An Tearmann when you correct do you mean the best? That’s down to individual taste, main 3 producers of the black stuff are Charles Macleod (Charlie Barleys) Macleod&Macleod and WJ Macdonald. Hail Hail Hebcelt

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