Context is all, and the context for reporting of the ticket ‘dispute’ for our Newco game on the 30th was significantly skewed. In brief:
After humiliating defeats by Celtic at Ibrox, Newco cut Celtic ticket numbers by 90%. This led to 700 Celtic fans in a corner of the stadium with bottles and other missiles thrown at them. I’ve been there and it is incredible this option passed Health and Safety rules.
Celtic initially reciprocated the 700 tickets arrangement before drawing a line: we have safe arrangements for visiting fans or nothing at all. Celtic want a return of 7,000 visiting fans, Newco want only 700.
An SPFL subcommittee agreed that home clubs had a duty to provide a “reasonable” number of tickets for visiting fans but that arrangements should be SAFE AND RECIPROCATED.
Celtic issued a statement highlighting the subcommittees assertion of fan safety, Newco’s statement talked about a reasonable number of visiting fans, without reference to safety conditions on that requirement.
Guess how the story was reported? Amazingly, Newco won the case but were forced to concede. That was actually reported in Scotland yesterday. It bothers me more than it surprises me.
We all know fan safety is paramount and it is either impossible or expensive for Newco to guarantee the behaviour of fans sitting adjacent to the corner they previously put Celtic fans. We also know denying visiting fans access detracts from the game. We can further agree (with the SPFL) that arrangements should be reciprocal.
The solution is to revert to 7,000 visiting fans but this cannot happen without Newco relocating their ultras group, whom they are loathed to take on. Alternatively, we lock out away fans, or run the safety gauntlet at Ibrox until a tragedy occurs. Safety. Ibrox. I know!
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Not a fan of no away fans at games as it real kills the atmosphere. I’ve been fortunate enough to attend games vs Rangers when beating them was an amazing experience, because their fans were there. Also been to games when it’s all our own fans and it doesn’t compare.
The powers at be need to sort this out. It’s such a sad reflection on Scottish society when it is deemed ‘not safe’ to attend a football match. It’s embarrassing trying to explain this to American friends here.
tontine tim
Dont forget Kenny was only seventeen when he came on as substitute, for Charlie Gallagher, in that game against Hamilton Accies, September 1968, but you are right he only played a handful of game over the following two seasons before becoming a fixture in 1971. Signing Harry Hood in March 1969 might have had something to do with that!
logic and hubs doesn’t go together
BIGCHIPSUK @ 1:31
“We are Celtic supporters, faithful through and through…”
So for the next 2 weeks at least let us actively and positively SUPPORT our managers and players as they face the coming games (and MIBs/VARs):
Sat 23 Dec Livingston (H)
Tue 26 Dec Dundee (A)
Sat 30 Dec Rangers (H)
Tue 2 Jan St Mirren (A)
There is enough negativity and sniping from our opponents, their supporters and the MSM without rounding on our own and piling on even more pressure. At least let the Celtic support show them big love over the season of goodwill, whatever ensues. Negativity achieves nothing… but more negativity and harm.
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Sitting wearing a blindfold and happy clapping like a seal trying to pass yourself off as positve whilst looking like your looking for a fish from the PLC ghood ghuy book isn`t the answer…to a PLC who played at tig with Rangers(£49 – £52…) whilst the huns banned Celtic fans from Ibrox our PLC played tit for tat and banned the huns support from Parkhead.
Both wrong decisions.
Why didn`t Celtic PLC have a mind of their own instead of dancing to the huns tune?
Are Celtic PLC ever going to be capable of any original thought?
If Celtic banned all huns from Parkhead then why not huns with laptops as well?
What would the negative effect of that be?
More to the point, who gives a monkeys what it would be?
A Celtic support who finance the most corrupt board in Scottish football since David Murray`s EBT board are thoroughly useless lazy cheap bought sold mugged sleekit lying deceiving pretentious cold calculated reactionaries spreading nothing but anti-Celticness apart from the Green Brigade who are not perfect as they pick and choose their protests which could be construed as being two faced that being so…58,000+ will at least have something in common with them.
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Kevj
Merry Christmas when it comes, 👍
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St J 1-0 down and reduced to 10 men. 🤦♂️
St Johnstone brilliant defending against us.Dear God,state of that ,to let the scum go one up.
Over to Liverpool game
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St Johnstone get a red card after var check.
Who’d a thunk it?
Maybe VAR’s trying to vary the assistance from the usual, boring “Penalty Rangers ! “
Don’t know that St. Johnstone can complain about any ‘pattern of assistance’ when they’ve contributed to it by bringing in Levein.
ref gave a yellow – VAR upgraded to red. Red was right decision BUT if it was Celtic VAR would have ignored. VAR decides to look or ignore depending on the color of the strip.
Bias / Cheating – the stats are blatantly in favor for them. YET our board appear to do nothing. Need a Fergus type character to fight on behalf of the club , its fans and professional integrity.
SUPPORT our managers and players as they face the coming games (and MIBs/VARs):
Sat 23 Dec Livingston (H)
Tue 26 Dec Dundee (A)
Sat 30 Dec Rangers (H)
Tue 2 Jan St Mirren (A)
There is enough negativity and sniping from our opponents, their supporters and the MSM without rounding on our own and piling on even more pressure. At least let the Celtic support show them big love over the season of goodwill, whatever ensues. Negativity achieves nothing… but more negativity and harm.
get the GB back in for the home games.
Stebhoy,
Our CEO at the time helped them back through the 5WA purely for his own financial game —- there is no financial gain for the Chairman in intervening now.
Followthemoney.csc
The biggest lift for the celtic support would be to have Chairman Lawwell sacked —- it would 100X the Jock Brown Impact.
The reporting on the BBC website on the rangers game is gushing , embarrassing nonsense.
It looks like livi will have lost 5 of their last six by the time we reach them on Saturday – I’m not sure how i feel about facing them – It’s exactly the type of situation we need to improve but I’m not sure we’re ready to create chances and change tactics (if needed) against that type of team.
JACKIEMAC
The form of the opposition goes out of the window when we play them these days.
The only team that can beat us is ourselves. If we turn up, we’ll win.
Sevco penalty. Surprise surprise
My post of 8:31 turns out to be a bit premature then.
feels like it geebee- self inflicted – however that means we can sort it out.
FFS
Say no more.
Another one 😩
Really dodgy colour of chinos for Levein at his age
Tomorrow’s headline “Rainjurzz close gap to two points WITH A GAME IN HAND”.
The article will go on to say `’win the OF game and they’ll be 4 clear”.
How did it come to this? We should be miles clear.
Someone somewhere has screwed up big time.
p.s. the refereeing is only going to get worse
The officiating has changed since sevco appointed their new manager. The cheating has been ramped up.
so thems have it covered on the pitch with the officials and off the pitch with VAR , and we go and shoot ourselves in the foot by banning the GB, could only happen with us , they are laughing at us, and we lie on our backs and get our tummy rubbed , for f**k sake waken up.
With all the adulation the GB are getting they had better “perform ” when they get back.
Our whole future could depend on them.
Green pinta- they should give us some options to the left wing when they return!
I’ll get my coat
would’t take much of an effort from the GB to ‘perform’ better than the current team .
Dermot Desmond White times I fear. Desmond White was an AMATEUR goalie for Queen´s Park while Dermot likes a flutter on the stock market and is not in the football business.
The body language from the Celtic board up in the stand against Hearts emanated indifference and was symptomatic of the infamous early 1990´s directors´ style. The chasm between the support and those who run or should I say ruin the club these days is only going to grow. Only good results on the pitch can stall it.
Tontine Tim Celtic Mac
I saw Dalglish play through the seventies and I am sure you would both agree he was a far more complete footballer for Celtic than he ever was for Liverpool or Scotland. Because he scored so many goals, Scotland played him up front alongside Law or Jordan but Kenny didn´t score so many in dark blue and used to get criticised a lot, but it was because he didn´t have playmakers like Jimmy Johnstone alongside him. When Dalglish went to Liverpool he was a straight swap for Keegan, even taking the number 7 jersey, and he fitted perfectly into their established way of playing and with so many good players around him and with his skill and dedication he thrived.
I remember Dalglish in green and white for his sharp goal-taking knack, but also for being our leader on the pitch, after McNeill and before McGrain, playing more in midfield with strikers like Paul Wilson, Dixie, Alfie Conn or Joe Craig as the front men. As a kid I used to go to matches in the new seated enclosure with my Dad, one match a season I got and I ended up choosing Celtic-Hibs matches. One of the most famous ones was when a game between the two of them was abandoned due to heavy fog…with Hibs winning 2-0..and the fans chanting ” We can´t see…we can´t see ” Just as well we didn´t lose that day because In fact I don´t think I ever saw Celtic lose at Celtic Park and it might in fact be a record of mine to this day. Not that i was able to go that often, I haven´t lived in Scotland for nearly 40 years either.
Anyway, the Celtic-Hibs match I remember in particular was when Celtic won 4-0 and it was a big crowd and a fantastic atmosphere, climaxing with the whole stadium singing “We shall not be moved”. Dalglish was at the centre of everything that day in the build up to the goals and you could hear that special crackle in the air at Parkhead just before the goals went in. Dalglish´s goal that day was sublime. Finding himself on the end of a lightning move on the edge of the box, he just looked up, summed up the situation and put the ball where he wanted, low to the keeper´s left. Jimmy Johnstone played a blinder that day as well though and as I said before, the presence of The Mighty Jinky always took a lot of pressure off King Kenneth.
Hail hail one and all.
A lot of Celtic supporters forget that Kenny left when he was 27,with a load of trophies, I was distraught as a young Bhoy when he left,but proud of him at Liverpool….eventually, his response to the families from Hillsborough, was above and beyond the strength of any man. Him and Marina attended every funeral…..think about how it’s like to attend 1……a great player, and a greater human being.
Death, more taxation and penalty to Rangers