It’s difficult not to associate Hearts’ owner, Vladimir Romanov’s outburst on their club website yesterday with the current issue over Rangers finances, which could soon see the SPL, the SFA and the media take sides between Rangers and their creditors, in particular HM Revenue and Customs.
Romanov’s rant on the demise of the Scottish game was ignorable until he dragged in the “tax authorities” for blame. As you and I know, the tax authorities don’t play favourites, they collect vat, income, corporation and other taxes in line with the law.
Hearts failed to pay player wages last month and Romanov now says, “there is no point is spending millions to watch someone else’s show”. Most of Hearts debt is owed to Romanov’s own bank but if player wages are unpaid there is a good chance HMRC will also be outstanding, explaining the “tax authorities” reference.
If a new football club playing at Ibrox is ushered into the SPL with a points tally calculated from the position of a defunct Rangers you can expect a gold-rush of clubs ready to flush their debts to the country, and history, away.
Well done to STV who yesterday revealed the actual decision making process which would be put in place to judge an application to join the league midseason or at any other time. The SPL board, by simple majority, have the decision, while the SFA need to ratify membership.
If the SPL board vote to reward bad debtors’ shares in their league what incentive would most clubs have to pay their bills? Fortunately, our history is more valuable than any amount of cash.
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Tom McLaughlin says:
3 November, 2011 at 02:14
When the social unrest kicks-off, I wonder who will be the first pundit or print-journalist to say . . . HMRC could have avoided all this !!!
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2010 Never Again
Never a truer word spoken
Fortunes Favour Mibbes –
Jabba in my opinion is the worst of the lot. I used to like him in the old Glasgow Herald when it was a quality newspaper, then he took the Queen’s shilling and sold his soul to the highest bidder – The Daily Record – and ended his career as a journalist.
The likes of Jackson and Guidi are not even worth discussing, so I won’t.
Believe it or not, I still retain a lot of respect for wee Chic. He is a good writer and does know his stuff and on occasion, is not afraid to speak his mind, even when it does upset the lodge leeches.
Imatim @ 02:33
Without a doubt. He’s far from daft. Very clever fella. He’s outwith the masonic kabal. That’s why he’s “outspoken”, and that’s why he’s ridiculed by the meeja. How wealthy is he again?!
You share the same thoughts as me. He may have a plan that could put a massive spoke in the hun plans. Campbell Ogilvie was his connection…but who knows what is really going on. I’d bet my bottom dollar we’ll hear some interesting things coming from Vlad shortly. He’s the rogue that they can’t trust (in their eyes). Remember he’s the only person in Scottish football to publish a statement regarding cheating referres in the SPL.
“..it can lead to an allegation of match fixing”.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon –
Where is the Romanov statement, or can you post a link to it?
Thanks.
GCT
I agree with that. He’s a we ghuy caught in a pit of lies and obfuscation, and he’s clearly not been comfortable with it. It says a lot when you see that happening to a Rangers fan. And we only know half of it. The new school of hun meeja is more than unpleasant, and it reflects on their support. It’s things like this that make the actions of the SNP and Strathclyde’s finest all the more sickening and worrying.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes says:
3 November, 2011 at 02:30
Imatim
>:(( Aye, saw that earlier. Disgusting. That was an attempt at a leg break. To this day the method behind Moisty and the Myth is unconfirmed. How have they managed to motivate a team so successfully built on pure hate. You’d think they were feeding them steroids or summit.
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They create a siege mentality and a sense of bitterness, arrogance and superiority manifested in religious hatred…….along the lines of “no one likes us we don’t care”
It was interesting Terry Butchers comments that he got caught up in the hatred and bitterness of the Huns and it took his wife to snap him out of it. Gascoigne and Goram are other examples of what can happen to people when they come under the Hun influence.
There’s something fundamentally evil about them.
https://www.facebook.com/mark.canning3/posts/177911068959396?notif_t=like
Doh, that links wrong. This is the one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPj-8_wOZcA
Tom McLaughlin says:
3 November, 2011 at 02:43
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon –
Where is the Romanov statement, or can you post a link to it?
Thanks.
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Here you go.
Romanov’s latest statement –
“They spend their money to watch football, not the show, but unfortunately as usual they didn’t see any football.
“We also spend a lot of money but didn’t manage to see any football in these six years. We watch football degrading in its homeland. There are practically no high-quality Scottish players left, Scottish clubs don’t play in Europe and the national team doesn’t manage to get into the finals of international championships. Additionally, Scottish football ranks alongside Armenia, Panama and Burkina Faso.”
Entrepreneurs and various large businesses turned their backs on that sort of football and left this national heritage to the mercy of its own fate. That sort of outrage from the media, federation and tax authorities kills everyone who is trying to change this situation including ourselves who are ready to invest in Scotland once again with stadium plans. And no one is interested in what’s going on.
This is why I think that there is no point is spending millions to watch someone else’s show.”
Anyone able to delete my post @ 02:52? Would be appreciated. Don’t want certain innocent football players being hounded by monstrous huns when they see that name (hand on heid smilie/grimace)
Fortunes Favour Mibbes says:
3 November, 2011 at 02:41
Imatim @ 02:33
Without a doubt. He’s far from daft. Very clever fella. He’s outwith the masonic kabal. That’s why he’s “outspoken”, and that’s why he’s ridiculed by the meeja. How wealthy is he again?!
You share the same thoughts as me. He may have a plan that could put a massive spoke in the hun plans. Campbell Ogilvie was his connection…but who knows what is really going on. I’d bet my bottom dollar we’ll hear some interesting things coming from Vlad shortly. He’s the rogue that they can’t trust (in their eyes). Remember he’s the only person in Scottish football to publish a statement regarding cheating referres in the SPL.
“..it can lead to an allegation of match fixing”.
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Yes! Romanov knows the score and how things operate in Scottish football. There’s more than one gorilla in the room I reckon.
It may just be he’s testing the water and keeping pace with what the big Huns are up to or he may just be ahead of the game. Whatever it is I’m sure he’s got a plan.
Imatim
Exactly. It could be to use the hun situation to write off mini hun debt. Or maybe he’s looking at the bigger picture. To be honest, he would have been a crucial part of the improvement process if he’d taken over another club rather than another hun one. Makes it difficult for us to deal with him. The support paying into his club are arguably more odious and more of a threat to society, albeit smaller numbered, than the main huns.
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Tom English: Lennon’s public flaying of players was self-defeating
Published on Thursday 3 November 2011 12:28
A YEAR ago, almost to the day, Celtic put nine goals on Aberdeen at Parkhead. Gary Hooper and Anthony Stokes got hat-tricks. The stadium was alive and buzzing. And Neil Lennon was The Man.
Or The Bhoy. Celtic had played 11 league games and had won ten of them. They’d scored 31 Premier League goals, the partnership of Hooper and Stokes accounting for 18 of the 31.
Back then, they were “All Neil Lennon”, every last fan at Parkhead loved him and believed in him. He’d promised to bring back the thunder and, sure enough, that is what he did. For a season at any rate. The thunder now? Well, it’s been a while since we heard a clap. If there was any on Saturday then it came in the guise of booing on the full-time whistle. You can’t listen to a radio phone-in show these days without Celtic people going on about Lennon and why it’s time for him to go. No doubt he retains the support of many fans, but the ranks must be dwindling given what is going on at the club at present. The revisionists are out in force. No, they never wanted him in the first place. Too inexperienced for the job. Oh aye, they could see this happening. So many people, it seems, have not just given up on Celtic winning the title, they’ve also given up on Lennon himself.
The rush to judgment has been done at breakneck speed. This is the way of it in Old Firm football. That’s the reality of life at Celtic and Rangers. One minute you’re a deity, the next you’re a dud. The collapse in Lennon’s fortunes has been remarkable. Celtic trail Rangers by 12 points. They’ve lost three games and have drawn two. With a points total of 23, they’re eight points behind where they were this time last season.
Their go-to men have, well, gone. Hooper and Stokes look disinterested. Beram Kayal looks distracted and oh so ordinary. Kris Commons, scorer of 14 goals in the second half of last season, including nine in eight games at the end of the campaign, has started one game since the end of August. He has more red cards this season than goals – one of the former and none of the latter. Something has happened to Commons. There’s talk of a bust-up with Lennon and no amount of silly costumes in training are going to lessen the suspicion that either Lennon doesn’t want to play Commons or Commons doesn’t want to play for Lennon.
On current performances, you could say the same about quite a number of them.
Lennon is always engaging company, in victory and in defeat. He’s always got something interesting to say and a fearlessness about saying it. He’s the sports writer’s dream, a man who has launched a thousand back pages in his time, just as he did on Saturday when he dynamited all bar three of his team in the wake of Celtic’s dispiriting draw against Hibs at Parkhead.
His criticisms were perfectly valid and much appreciated by his audience in the press room, who could hardly count the number of different news stories in that single conference. But you have to wonder about the logic of it all. Applaud Lennon for his honesty, sure. But what impact has his honesty had on his dressing room?
His players will have read his comments on Sunday morning, his wounding words that basically accused them – or most of them – of hiding, of piggy-backing on the efforts of James Forrest, Joe Ledley and Ki Sung Yeung, the three players Lennon absolved of all blame.
We got a little insight into the players’ mindset from Mark Wilson shortly after Lennon had spoken on Saturday. Like his manager, Wilson was also angry and frustrated at what went on during the 90 minutes, but it was something he said later that was interesting. When he was told what Lennon had said about the slackers Wilson didn’t appear impressed. “That’s harsh,” he said. In the company of his team-mates he might have used more industrial language than that.
Lennon’s remarks were understandable, but self-defeating. Outing your players in public is never a good idea, not when you don’t have the financial wherewithal to get rid of some of them and replace them with better quality. You don’t normally hear managers doing it. Privately, yes, they’ll bury players, they’ll verbally assault the ones they think are not putting it in. But in public? To the press? When Manchester United humiliated Arsenal in that eight-goal annihilation earlier in the season, I don’t recall Arsene Wenger going to war against his players during his post-match analysis on television and neither did Sir Alex Ferguson in the wake of the six-goal drubbing in the Manchester derby. They found another way of talking about their embarrassment and the inadequacies of their players without personalising it the way Lennon did.
Lennon spoke from the heart but he also spoke as an inexperienced manager. In fact, in a way he was almost talking as if he was a player again. When he was still in the hoops he could talk freely and speak his mind and it was up to his manager to deal with the fall-out. His words didn’t really have repercussions back then, but they do now.
Whether he likes it or not, he is stuck with these players. They will decide whether he succeeds or fails in his job. Levelling them in front of the media was not the cleverest thing Lennon ever did. Sure, he’s done it before and he got a reaction from them, most notably after the Ross County debacle. But he’s tried it a number of times this season and it hasn’t worked. Have they stopped listening to him? Has he lost the dressing room? You really have to wonder.
It is said that he has two games in which to save his job. Nobody outside the key people at Celtic know whether that is true or not, but, hopefully, it isn’t. Lennon has promise as a manager, but he has lost his way these past few months. Those who hailed him last season are now beginning to turn and those who played for him in his first season seem a little demotivated to do the same again. Berating them in public might play well with the press and the punters, but it won’t have sat well with the one group he really needs on his side – the players.
This is a giant hole that Lennon is in. And, on Sunday against Motherwell, he had better start climbing to get out of it.
Summa
Fortunes Favour Mibbes says:
3 November, 2011 at 03:17
Imatim
Exactly. It could be to use the hun situation to write off mini hun debt. Or maybe he’s looking at the bigger picture. To be honest, he would have been a crucial part of the improvement process if he’d taken over another club rather than another hun one. Makes it difficult for us to deal with him. The support paying into his club are arguably more odious and more of a threat to society, albeit smaller numbered, than the main huns.
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2010 Never Again
No doubt Romanov is playing this really cute.
Whatever is going the way of the big Huns he’s getting on board and remembering it only takes 2 votes to scupper Rangers re-entry to the SPL should they go pear shaped. Interesting times.
Some people live a life of Brinkmanship simply because it seems the natural thing to do. Romanov appears to be one of them. The BBc is now reporting as follows….
A motion has been lodged at the Court of Session to wind-up Hearts football club. The petition against Edinburgh-based Heart of Midlothian Plc will be heard on Thursday. BBC Scotland understands that it is over a tax bill due to HMRC that may have already been paid. The club had similar winding up orders served against it in 2009 and November 2010 over unpaid tax to HMRC. Both were settled after the club paid the bills.
Full story at Hearts of the Mad Lithuanian
BTW, I’ll be popping into the Sheriff Court on Monday and will, if appropriate, do a wee sketch on the proceedings complete with ‘pencil sketch’, ‘judge with black cap’ and ‘shifty defendants’!
THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD…but till then you’ll have to make do with me. :-)
Hail hail
Estadio
Estadio says:
3 November, 2011 at 03:54
Some people live a life of Brinkmanship simply because it seems the natural thing to do. Romanov appears to be one of them. The BBc is now reporting as follows….
A motion has been lodged at the Court of Session to wind-up Hearts football club. The petition against Edinburgh-based Heart of Midlothian Plc will be heard on Thursday. BBC Scotland understands that it is over a tax bill due to HMRC that may have already been paid. The club had similar winding up orders served against it in 2009 and November 2010 over unpaid tax to HMRC. Both were settled after the club paid the bills.
Full story at Hearts of the Mad Lithuanian
BTW, I’ll be popping into the Sheriff Court on Monday and will, if appropriate, do a wee sketch on the proceedings complete with ‘pencil sketch’, ‘judge with black cap’ and ‘shifty defendants’!
THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD…but till then you’ll have to make do with me. :-)
Hail hail
Estadio
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2010 Never Again
Timdom waits with baited breath
Summa of Sammi @ 03:49
Whit a load of disgusting pash. What rag wasted their money on him to print that pile of mince?? He’s another one. Needs to live in a farm to give him sheep to count to get to sleep. Odious bampot. God. i can’t get my napper around these peepil. What on earth goes through their thick skulls?? Is it really nothing but hate!?! No answer required.
While we are considering Hearts, Rangers, cheating, maladministration and manipulative bosses, it may be worthwhile looking a little closer at the sunlit hills that many see as the land of salvation….The EPL
They make our own little pond seem so clean and inviting.
Swimming in polluted waters
Hail hail
Estadio
Jim Jeffries appearing tomorrow at court to explain how it was Neil Lennon’s fault they missed their bill dates. Edinburgh jury and the SFA to concur.
Nest.
I have a wee liking for Tom English, but only so as I can use the phrase “English, an Irishman, who writes for the Scotsman”.
Bated breath NOT ‘Baited’! :-)
Hail Hail
Estadio
Estadio
Surely the other way around. In any big money making racket, corruption’s going to kick in. Easier to deal with that than the many types of corruption that have ruined the Scottish game. EPL over the SPL any day of the week. But preferably, a fair play northern European league that would in 10 yrs be leading the world in football – gameplay, management, regulation and development. Hun-free.
FFM
Fair play Northern European League. No probs there, but that requires imagination and drive to create. Most of all it needs a whole host of parties to agree to a new structure (and possibly to the replacement of the current Uefa administration). For it to get that commitment and to succeed in marginalising the current money obsessed supremacists such as the EPL would probably need genuine promotion and relegation via play-offs etc from the ‘feeder’ national leagues.
Setting up a new league as a stand alone entity, would be unlikely to get the buy in across football especially the fans. Fans have so much more power than they realise, but don’t have the co-ordination or leadership to drive in much needed change, lock on essential competition and most of all shine the light in the shady corners of greed and craft.
Mind you, I’m probably talking tosh and shouldn’t really switch on my computer when all I did was wake up for a pee.
Hail Hail
Estadio (back to sleep now)
Estadio says:
3 November, 2011 at 04:10
I have a wee liking for Tom English, but only so as I can use the phrase “English, an Irishman, who writes for the Scotsman”.
Bated breath NOT ‘Baited’! :-)
Hail Hail
Estadio
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I’m sure you have baited a few in your time <:-))
Estadio
:) Most of those issues are easily overcome.
But i note you finished with the point: “Fans have so much more power than they realise, but don’t have the co-ordination or leadership to drive in much needed change, lock on essential competition and most of all shine the light in the shady corners of greed and craft.”
Which is and always will be the real problem for now and forever in the life of football.
But at least lets get out of this sh@tehole anyway! Let’s give our Board the chance to be corrupt with the best of them. Keeps us in the frame, no? :)
2010 Never Again
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
Didn’t Hearts get shot of Jeffries?
Imatim
Aye they did. You’re right. Where is the wee sh’te now?? Campbell’s understudy maybe? Working on the new youth development programme that the SFA are funding the huns for to the tune of a few million?…..hand on heid anti-smilie >:(
That’s right. I mind now. Vlad got rid of him not too long after his last lie down to the huns…..Vlad shares our Sixth Sense. “I see bad people”. :)
2010 Never Again
From the Celtic Trust Website
http://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_article&id=322
When is a peaceful demo no longer peaceful?
Published on Wednesday 2nd November, 2011 by Celtic Trust
Jeanette Findlay on the George Square protest
George Square is Green and White
The demonstration organised by the Fans Against Criminalisation campaign against the Offensive Behaviour at Football Threatening Communications Act exceeded by far the greatest expectations of the organisers. Typically the Celtic crowd in George Square on Saturday was around the 400 mark just prior to the 12.30 kick-off but it swelled to nearer 1500-2000 by the time the speakers climbed on to the base of the statue of Robert Burns – my Granny Reilly must have been spinning in her grave at the thought of me near the statue of that ‘old masonic whore-master’ as she so colourfully referred to him.
This very large crowd (much larger than the 400-700 estimates given by the biased, sorry innumerate, press) was made up of men, women and children of all ages ie a typical Celtic crowd. And like a typical Celtic crowd they cheered and they laughed and eventually, on the way back to Celtic Park for the Hibs game, they sang.
This was a peaceful and passionate demonstration which sent a clear and strong message to the Scottish Government that we were not going to allow our young people to be criminalised and all of us branded bigots just to advance the careers of Lord Advocates and Chief Constables, and to take the bad look off the real bigots in this country. Speaker after speaker spelled out our reasoned opposition to this Bill and our determination to fight it to the end.
Croppies Lie Down…
All good so far, until we arrive at Celtic Park and then it was payback time! In a breach of assurances given by the police to all the main supporters organisations some weeks before, a heavy and aggressive police presence was visited on the fans who occupy Section 111.
Both before the match kicked off and ten minutes before the end, they invaded that stand in a show of strength designed to let us all know – we can demonstrate as peacefully as we like but they are in control and they are going to take our right to protest and shove it right up to us. Young people and women were pushed around and had their safety endangered as they attempted to pull one or two individuals who were alleged to have sung the wrong song.
This was nothing like the ‘facilitation’ role that we in the supporters’ organisations have been assured is the main role of the police on match days. Were it not for the cool heads of the Green Brigade and other fans keeping things calm then there could have been far more serious consequences to their action.
Today both the CSA and the Celtic Trust have met with representatives of Celtic and we will be meeting with the police in the next day or so. But this has now moved way beyond an issue for football fans; this was an organised attack on people who only a few hours before had been peacefully demonstrating and it was designed to send a message to all of us ‘Croppies Lie Down’.
Every Celtic fan, and every democrat and every citizen who wants to live in a Scotland where the police are democratically accountable should be extremely concerned by these developments. We in the Fans Against Criminalisation campaign will continue to oppose this Bill – we won’t be doing any lying down unless it is on the London Road as an act of mass civil disobedience if that is what we are forced to do.
Reports of the outcomes of any meetings on this issue will be posted here. In the meantime, we would like to encourage any fan who was personally affected by the police action to make a full complaint at their nearest police station. We will be happy to offer advice and support if that is necessary. We have collected a good deal of evidence regarding the police action on Saturday but if anyone wishes to send us any more in confidence then please do so.
And in answer to the question at the top of the page…when the police decide it does not suit their purpose.
2010 Never Again
Fortunes Favour Mibbes
Do you get the feeling that maybe our very existence is on the line depending on the decisions we make in the not too distant future?
Imatim
I’m far from comfortable with it. It’s ugly stuff, by ugly peepil, who will drag us down with them if it’s the last thing they do.
Which is why we should maybe have a wee bit more faith in the board. Fergus must have seen it…this stuff was talked about 10 yrs ago.
Still a worry though. The timing could never have been predicted, with whats going on elsewhere.
Fortunes Favour Mibbes says:
3 November, 2011 at 04:56
Imatim
I’m far from comfortable with it. It’s ugly stuff, by ugly peepil, who will drag us down with them if it’s the last thing they do.
Which is why we should maybe have a wee bit more faith in the board. Fergus must have seen it…this stuff was talked about 10 yrs ago.
Still a worry though. The timing could never have been predicted, with whats going on elsewhere.
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I refuse to believe we don’t have a plan in place covering a few contingencies.
I just hope we don’t make the huge mistake of seeing our future being aligned with that of the Huns.
Time will tell.
Laters my friend.
Hail Hail
Imatim
No alignment. !!!
No disassemble !!!
Night bud. Off to me scratcher to get my pj bottoms ready for sending out to my ebay customers.
Good morning all (and wakey wakey everyone) from a wet and breezy east Kilbride.
The day of our next big European adventure arrives. 12 hours from now I’ll be heading of to The Park to roar on The Bhoys to what I hope is a memorable victory.
Jobo
Right I’m away to work, you’ll all need to get yourself up and sorted…
Jobo
Top of the morning to you all from a grey, dreich, Fife.
I understand that the Scottish Parliament is to discuss the Justice Committee report at Stage 2 in the main chamber today at 2.40pm
The Main Chamber live TV coverage can be accessed here: http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/parliamentarybusiness/319.aspx
So get the popcorn out and watch how our elected representatives deal with the new crime that none are prepared to define.
*S4M-01170 Christine Grahame on behalf of the Justice Committee: Report on the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill at Stage 2—That the Parliament notes the Justice Committee’s 1st Report, 2011 (Session 4): Report on the Offensive Behaviour at Football and Threatening Communications (Scotland) Bill at Stage 2 (SP Paper 21).
In other words Christine Grahame’s “even things up by arresting more Tims Bill”
For those who thought previous photo choices by BBC Scotland in coverage of the SNPs Offensive Behaviour Bill showed bias, see their latest effort.
Big Nan says:
3 November, 2011 at 07:25
Who was the lady that chaired the last meeting? She distinguished herself by arguing the reason more Rangers supporters fell foul of sectarian crime was because the current sectarian laws effectively discriminate against them…….you couldn’t make it up.
The Hun saying that they have been offerred Templeton from hearts for £500k. Mad Vlad, what a guy, what a sense of humour.
I’d take Templeton for £500k
Murdoch boy the same Christine Grahame who will be speaking today.
Imatim and so is Neil Lennon says:
3 November, 2011 at 04:41
2010 Never Again
From the Celtic Trust Website
http://www.celtictrust.net/index.php?func=d_home_article&id=322
That is an excellent piece!