When the Champions League draw was made, I feared we would face Anderlecht at home on the final game after five defeats. This would not necessarily have been the end of our interest in European football, but it would have damaged the momentum in the club in recent months.
You will remember, ahead of match day five, we discussed that the Anderlecht-Bayern Munich game was probably more important to our season than the PSG-Celtic game. As it transpired, Bayern’s second half winner made all the difference to the second half of our season.
News last night that Celtic are the only group stage qualifier from the Champions Pot to still be in European competition offer some comfort; outcomes could have been a lot worse.
While European football is the custard in our doughnut, all I hear from is Celtic fans who are grateful it is over for a couple of months. We have an unbeaten record to further and two games a week until the January break.
It can be pretty horrible, a huge club stuck in a minor league without competition, but it offers us respite, an opportunity to recharge, experiment and return afresh.
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Have Motherwell released a statement yet?
BRTH
Thanks , yes I can remember seeing a sign for Agamemnon St when I drove along the Expressway to reach the hospital, the documentary said the gaps in the tenemants were where the original buildings were not rebuilt and its now just gaps never thought about that at the time, the people spoke well and Brendan I think his name was did well, was there a lot missed out that should have been included.Well done the people of Clydebank.
I thought the Ordinance was at Bishopton, things you learn on CQN
VFR800 is now a Monster 821 on 7th December 2017 10:20 pm
By the time Turners started operations in Clydebank in 1938, the British government had introduced measures aimed at regulating the asbestos hazard. The Asbestos Regulations of 1931 were a response to growing medical evidence from 1924 of confirmed deaths from asbestosis (though a female factory inspector had recognised the problem as early as 1898).
In short, the British Government already knew that those working with Asbestos were being subjected to effective death by poisoning– and in Clydebank Asbestos was everywhere. It was in the Shipyards and in every major plant and building. Shipworkers had Asbestos snowball fights and Turners even had a football pitch made with Asbestos ash!
Yet Clydebank had a great spirit because of the people and yes it is virtually certain that there will be a connection between our families somewhere.
My other half’s faither was later the heidy at St Andrews Secondary School and her mum taught at OHR as well.
The Sevco statement…
Jabba really should nae bandy words just because they are big and economicky and sound impressive. Here’s a line that should really worry every candidate-and every Sevconian.
“moving to a massive club like Rangers is a big step with concomitant risk”
So what is the concomitant risk,Jim? It’s not just a nice big word that makes you look clever.
It’s a trap and a warning.
And it’s a hands-off to anyone wi a brain or a career-plan. Or,as mentioned above,a decent agent.
I don’t think the hordes are buying the statement:
“If our board put as much effort into finding a manager as they do releasing statements then we might not be in this mess.”
“Can we go back to the days of dignified silence now? Because that statement is just embarrassing.
Traynor should be shot out of a cannon.”
“So another transfer window wasted!! Cheerio Moult, Morgan, Mclean and anyone else that couldve improved our club at minimal cost
Mind you some savings to be made with the old no manager ploy so bravo on that front
What an utterly leaderless, spineless and unimaginative approach by a group of charlatans not fit to wear our club tie.”
“And we wonder why McInnes has avoided working with this board ?
That statement is your answer. Traynor acting like a plooky teenager who got knocked back and publicly calls the lassie a slut and this board sanction it.
It’s shameful”
“Tragic stuff. Embarrassing us yet again.
Honestly that statement…from the people who hired Pedro! Eff off.”
“Ridiculous, any other club puts that out and im pishing myself laughing
Except its mine and I feel like I’ll have a mental breakdown if this continues”
“Gym Trainer being the supercilious beach ball with feet that we all know he is.
He turns my stomach.”
“I was cringing reading that. Something a school bully would shout in a playground because the sensible boy wasn’t interested in having a fight.”
BMCUWP,
badly expressed I can understand…..but to say precisely what you don’t mean is a skill in-and-of-itself….you’re being too kind….that’s your nature ;-))
To add a little bit to the argument….I know for a fact that there are gangs of faux homeless in Glasgow….who are giving the really desperately needy a bad reputation
H.H.
Sevco the club that put the state in statement
VFR800 IS NOW A MONSTER 821 on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 9:49 PM
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 9:34 PM
Funnily enough Turners closed 50 years ago – in 1967! My father was the Shop Steward and brought the factory out on strike due to the conditions – he was ahead of his time in realising how much damage asbestos was doing. As a man of principle even with 12 children he stuck it out. Eventually the owners (South Africans if I recall) made everyone redundant.
My mum suggested he might want to take a trip to Lisbon with some of the redundancy money; however after the hardship we had gone through he couldn’t justify it to himself and declined.
A wee update, being older that you my recollections are clearer:
Turners closed in 1970, you are correct that Mum said she would find the money to let Dad go to Lisbon but it had nothing to do with redundancy money. The parent company was Turner Newall, and they had a factory in Trafford Park in Manchester who’s workers supported the strike in Clydebank. Turners had known about the dangers of asbestos for years (before the war I think) as did the government so closure was only a matter of time and the strike gave them a good excuse to say it was no longer viable, I wonder how many lives that saved in Clydebank and surrounding areas!!! After the closure they moved operations to South Africa where they employed blacks working in even worse conditions than in Clydebank, knowing the consequences for the workers, They would still be doing it if asbestos use hadn’t been outlawed.
BSR
Indeed they are the most state-mental club I know.
BT
I had to cancel my own number. Might get it back in a week . will be in contact via email. Ta
Jimmynotpaul on 7th December 2017 9:52 pm
Statement o’clock by Sevco.
Murty till end of year, at least,
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How’d you manage to steal my patter at 10:11…..are you J.Titor in disguise ;-))
H.H.
Dessy
Brendan Kelly was great on the show. Great ould Republican Bankie. He has something inside so strong. Like all Bankie’s who lived on 13 and 14 March 1941and survived that.
DD
I noticed his Easter lily☘️☘️
My late dad worked in theOrdanance Factory in Dalmuir for two years 1947 to 1949 , after being discharged from the army in 1947.
He really enjoyed it . He installed engines in the tanks built there.
I was at a party in East Kilbride last Saturday. I was talking to a Celtic fan at it , who is friendly with Aberdeen assistant boss, Tony Docherty . I was told there was no chance of Tony Docherty ever going to Ibrox.
“Traynor should be shot out of a cannon.”
Round of applause to the orc that said this, best idea I’ve heard in ages, whit a splash he wid make in the Clyde:))
An Xmas Special at Ibrokes see Jim Traynor fired out of a canon into the Clyde:))
HoHoHo Christmas come early!
ROBERTTRESSELL
Sometimes you’ve got it,sometimes you don’t.
About 8 years ago,my mate and I went to Cardiff for a three-day break. Or piss-up,if you prefer.
Hardy lad,Jimmy. Doyen of The Louden and The Bristol-aye,I can pick them!-and a wow wi the women.
Apparently.
We were in a bar early evening,2nd day having spent most of it doing cultural things. About four pints down,pleasant surroundings,decent dinner and a table of five rather stunning girls across from us.
He was scared to go to the toilet in case he tripped over his tongue!
So I casually sauntered over,break the ice,let’s all seven of us have a good time-and returned rapid wi my tale between my legs!
He said-“Buncha lesbians,mate?” wi the smirk that only friends can do.
“Naw,worse,”I replied. “Brazilians. Not a word of English between them!”
Jabba can now add plagiarism to his list of competencies.
This statement is NOT an original work.
A version was composed more than 2500 years ago by a Greek slave.
In that version, Sevco was a fox and McInnes was a bunch of grapes hanging out of reach from a tree.
Hail hail and good night all.
BT
He is one of the auld brigade.
Dalmuir SF.
GERIHATRIC on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 10:31 PM
I’ll defer to your memory as you are sooooo much older than me!
I do remember him going down to Manchester to meet the other union men to get their support.
At the end of the day, the factory closure was the best outcome!
KTF
DD
Yes terrifying for the survivors,they left understandably but they went back to Clydebank to do the jobs to defeat a common enemy, were any planes shot down?
https://canmore.org.uk/site/314167/clydebank-turners-asbestos-cement-co-dalmuir-works
The old site of Turners, John Brown (and other shipyards) made extensive of asbestos for lagging ships boilers so many shipyard workers suffered the same problems. I can remember my Dad coming home from work with his clothes covered in asbestos dust and I sometimes worried that we we could be affected as well.
Delaneys,
For Brendan Kelly….
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=otuwNwsqHmQ
H.H.
“Can we go back to the days of dignified silence now? Because that statement is just embarrassing.
Traynor should be shot out of a cannon
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Dallas
Asked both my nephews who play pro fitba if they thought McInnes and Docherty would go to doomdome. The reply was unanimous, “Deek would love to, but TD could never go there.” Tony is the brains of the operation too, they suggested.
GeriHatric on 7th December 2017 10:43 pm
That is what killed my Grandmother. She washed my Grandad’s overalls in the sink. There are loads of Clydebank women who died in exactly the same way and they had never been near Turner’s or a shipyard etc.
STARRY PLOUGH on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 10:40 PM
“Traynor should be shot out of a cannon.”
Round of applause to the orc that said this, best idea I’ve heard in ages, whit a splash he wid make in the Clyde:))
An Xmas Special at Ibrokes see Jim Traynor fired out of a canon into the Clyde:))
HoHoHo Christmas come early!
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Loads of turds in the Clyde. The salmon need something to feed on.
Traynor is now beyond parody,even the hun fans have had it with him. Pretty soon,so too will his employers.
That Ladbroke one at the weekend may have been the last straw for them,tonight’s the last straw for Sevco.
Last chance saloon for the cheerleader. And the bouncers are already figuring out how to make him go quietly.
Couldnae happen to a more deserving person,I reckon.
Dessy
Yes. A Polish warship berthed in Clydebank shot down a few.
” We’re gonnae miss oot on January transfers ”
BBBBBWWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
BBBBBWWWWWWHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA CSC
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
Revenge is a dish best served cold or in Jabba’s case deep frozen, he deserves all he gets, slimmer individual you could not meet in the game…
His circle of friends will be shrink-wrapped now, the old adage be careful who you step on on the way up etc and he has stepped on many people!
Pass the popcorn please:))
GERIHATRIC on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 10:43 PM
I remember him coming home and having s strip-wash to get the dust off.
When reading BRTH’s post @ 10:50 that no one in our family was affected by asbestos!
KTF
slimier individual*
BRT&H,VFR
I thought T&N liquidated about the turn of the century instead of ponying up. Pretty sure they were part of a US conglomerate,Federal Bearings,but a separate division.
Not sure. Mind,I also thought that Union Carbide liquidated in the face of Bhopal,but I think it went Chapter 11 and bought out.
Pretty shabby way of avoiding your responsibilities.
JIMTIM on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 6:52 PM
Starry . I know . Was very disappointed in the griff saying he wouldn,t celebrate if he scored against hibs . Never ever heard that from any celtic player in all my time following the hoops .
STARRY PLOUGH on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 6:55 PM
JIMTIM
I put that down to him not being the sharpest tool in the box:))
Some things best left unsaid!!
HH
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I’d actually really respect a Celtic-employed Hibs fan if didn’t celebrate if he scored against them.
HH jamesgang
TLT
Labe Sifre CSC
If Brendan can survive the German hun bombing Dalmuir, he can survive any hun he meets.
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN on 7TH DECEMBER 2017 10:50 PM
GeriHatric on 7th December 2017 10:43 pm
That is what killed my Grandmother. She washed my Grandad’s overalls in the sink. There are loads of Clydebank women who died in exactly the same way and they had never been near Turner’s or a shipyard etc.
Yes I recognise that, we grew up with it not knowing the dangers and I remember going to their Christmas parties in the factory as a wee boy. I’m in my late 60’s now and still in good health so I must have been one of the lucky ones. My Dad died of a heart attack at 63, by that time he had shadows on his lungs from working in Turners and I’m convinced that was a factor in his poor health.
dessybhoy on 7th December 2017 10:42 pm
Its a long read but most things you might want to know about the Clydebank Blitz can be found here.
https://broganrogantrevinoandhogan.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/death-on-the-clyde-the-politicians-poppycock/
STARRYPLOUGH
Thanks,mate-that explanation was crucial. My head nearly exploded when you mentioned slimmer individual!!!
“That latest statement from Rangers lacks both class and professionalism. Sums up the state of affairs quite perfectly.”
Keith (off the radar) Jackson