Jim McIntyre must wonder if accepting the Dundee job was his wisest move. Losing 0-5 to Celtic does not get anyone sacked, but the ease with which the champions unpicked his team was alarming.
It was a sublime performance by Celtic, but in truth, it was so easy, you could not name a player who needed to deliver a top performance. Rogic (fabulous goal), Forrest, McGregor, Sinclair and Christie dictated issues between them. By halftime, all that mattered was to complete the game without injury, a hope which was unfulfilled.
I liked what I saw of Daniel Arzani. He is reminiscent of a stockier Patrick Roberts. We will get goals from him. While Lewis Morgan treated us to the rare spectacle of taking corner kicks with both feet. The first Celtic player to do this since Lubo? This is an indicator of a deep innate ability.
While Celtic were strolling around Dens in second gear, Saturday’s opponents Hearts, were required to put a shift in to earn a point against Hibs. Neil Lennon was assaulted by a missile at Tynecastle, days after a Hearts fan brought widespread condemnation for striking a pensioner with a thrown bottle on Sunday. Although the uproar was not widespread enough to encompass the usually verbose Ann Budge. Maybe if such matters were faced full on by Hearts they would be less frequent. Neil’s former team-mate, Gary Caldwell, should consider the man has endured the most violent and persistent racist and sectarian abuse than anyone in Scotland for decades. The good humour Neil maintains is miraculous.
As we hoped in yesterday’s blog, both teams above Celtic dropped points, meaning we moved above Kilmarnock and within four points of Hearts, with a game in hand. The title push is well underway.
Releasing annual accounts on the evening of a game, that old trick! If it was me announcing a £14m loss I might do the same. Maybe pick up on this later.
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CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:13 PM
D17,
You should have a bash, he turned up to the first Res12 meeting then never again, the CSA have regular meetings with him. It’s all about his priorities I suppose.
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In the interests of accuracy PL attended a meeting in August as result of prompting from the CSA, who had been made aware of new information that had been provided to SFA by Res12 lawyer at end of June and to which no answer has as yet been received.
happy birthday Blantyre tim.hh.
MIT
He is a South African musical genius.
Lucky Man enjoy.
YNWA
BTW- the commentator on Sportscene last night, said Lustig went down ‘like a sack of tatties..’for the penalty….
TONTINE TIM on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:15 PM
Lawwell was appointed CEO in 2003. MON joined in 2000. You timeline is incorrect unless I’m mistaken, PL wasn’t CEO or on the Board when MON was appointed Manager.
Bada
Lustigs legs are gone
QF,
I states the “long-term bonus plan” is paid out on champions league qualification, are you sure there are no other bonus plans?
Happy birthday BT!
NorrieM – turned the corner….and seems the back has come with me for the journey. Which is good!
HH jg
BB
Mik went doon like a bag of totties cause his legs have gone seemingly.
YNWA
QF
I have seen many moaning about his £2.5 million a year salary, not so many bitching about a bonus mind you, a link to the part in the accounts where this is clearly stated that he is only paid his bonus if we reach the CL group stages would be appreciated, the rugger pal is not sufficient, the accounts are telling.
When I had a quick scan over them I failed to see anything about CL group stages and bonuses to the CEO are only paid out when we reach them, but I could have been mistaken, it’s been know before that I have been, no very often right enough, but it has been known, a link…..
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The way some on here fawn over Pedro you would think he is some sort of superstar who bangs in the goals for fun, wins us trophy after trophy, yet when it comes down to it he is but a simple bean counter, amazing.
DAVID17 on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:31 PM
TONTINE TIM on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:15 PM
Lawwell was appointed CEO in 2003. MON joined in 2000. You timeline is incorrect unless I’m mistaken, PL wasn’t CEO or on the Board when MON was appointed Manager.
*Correct he was Financial Controller then. It was Allan McDonald who had been over ruled, that may have been due tae the barnes, dalglish appointments and scheidt signing, no matter what big DD made the decision.
The first trick with Craig Gordon is a cracker in this video from Lennoxtown…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChCIhnpklNA
HH
Trying to figure out the US electoral set up before next weeks action.
This was helpful.
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress
AULDHEID on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:27 PM
If the new info you refer to is what i think it is, it relates to prior to the 31/3 deadline? If that is the case, could the new info prompt the CO to bring new charges as the existing two charges relate to the monitoring period? Or have i got it completely wrong.
d,
In the interest of accuracy, that meeting was with the CSA who according to yourself agreed to ask for that meeting to raise Res12, Res12 were guests at a CSA meeting with Lawwell. As yet we are waiting for the follow up meeting, no? Have the CSA lost interest?
TET
Accountants Uber Fitba players.
We are Celtic supporters, we see through this charlatan Celtic board.
YNWA
Oops, for Auldheid
THE EXILED TIM on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:36 PM
The way some on here fawn over Pedro you would think he is some sort of superstar who bangs in the goals for fun, wins us trophy after trophy, yet when it comes down to it he is but a simple bean counter, amazing.
*being an engineer, accountants and planners have been the bane of my life, unfortunately we need them. I don’t give a damn who earns what at Parkheid as long as we keep bringing home the silverware. Its a tough oul world out there in the best wee bigoted country in the world, even the greatest manager these 2 islands ever seen struggled against the forces of the craft and he allegedly was one.
TONTINE TIM on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:37 PM
I don’t think he was Financial controller then either but i take your point about Dermot Desmond.
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:25 PM
Auldheid,
I remember you saying qualification for the job was two years on SFA committees, can you remember what committees qualifies gorgon smith
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I had to look up where I came up with the 2 year requirement and it is in Article 57 of SFA Handbook. I’ll copy it next, but Gordon Smith was the CEO not President and funny handshakes probably played a part there.
TERM OF OFFICE OF HONORARY OFFICE-BEARERS, OFFICE-BEARERS AND MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS
56. General
The Office-Bearers and the ordinary members of the Congress shall continue in office for two years from the date of the Annual General Meeting at which or succeeding which they are elected until the Annual General Meeting in the second year thereafter and at such meeting the Office-Bearers shall be elected or re-elected. A new Congress shall thereafter be appointed in the manner provided in Article 51, and at every second Annual General Meeting, the Office-Bearers shall be so elected or re-elected and the Congress thereafter appointed for the ensuing two years.
57. Honorary Office-Bearers and Office-Bearers
57.1 On conclusion of his tenure as President, such former President may be appointed by the Board as an Honorary Office-Bearer. Once so appointed, the Honorary Office-Bearer shall retain that appointment unless such appointment is withdrawn by the Board.
Retiring Office-Bearers shall be eligible for re-election unless disqualified in terms of any of these Articles.
57.2 Save as provided in Article 57.4, no Office-Bearer may hold the same position (as detailed in Article 57.1) for more than four years after initial election to such position. The maximum continuous or aggregate period of time during which any individual can hold office as an Office-Bearer (in whichever of the positions he is elected to serve as detailed in Article 57) shall be eight years.
57.3 An Office-Bearer who is eligible and who seeks election or re-election, as the case may be, as President or Vice-President, as the case may be, at the Annual General Meeting succeeding which a new Congress will be formed shall not later than 28th February in the year of such Annual General Meeting lodge with the Secretary written notice of his desire to seek such election or continue in office, as appropriate. The Secretary shall within 7 days thereafter inform full members and the Congress of which such OfficeBearer is seeking such election or re-election, as aforesaid. If, in the interval between 28th February and the date of the Annual General Meeting, an Office-Bearer intimates withdrawal of his application for election or re-election, as the case may be, or if any eventuality which would preclude his election or reelection has arisen, the Secretary shall proceed as instructed by the Board.
57.4 If, for any reason, the office of President or of Vice-President becomes vacant, the Board either on its own or on the requisition of the members in accordance with the Act may convene expeditiously a General Meeting to elect a candidate to fill such vacant office. In the event that as a result of the application of this Article 57.4, a person elected to office as President or Vice-President would, in order to meet the four-year limitation on the holding of such offices set out in Article 57.2, require to resign from any such office prior to the expiry of any two-year term which he was subsequently elected to serve in respect of such office, it is declared that such person will be entitled to remain in office until the expiry of such two-year term notwithstanding the provisions of Article 57.2 and as an exception to them. Any period of office served as a consequence of the invocation of this Article 57.4 shall therefore be disregarded when assessing the application of the limitation on the holding of the same offices within the Scottish FA, all as set out in Article 57.2.
57.5 Articles 48.1 and 48.3 shall not apply to the nomination or election of a candidate pursuant to Article 57.4. The nomination of any candidate for the vacated office of President or Vice-President shall state the office to which such candidate seeks to be elected and shall be submitted by electronic communication or by recorded delivery letter to the Secretary at any time up to and including the date to be set by the Board for receipt of such nominations prior to the date of the convened General Meeting to fill such vacant office and the Secretary shall, within 7 days of his receipt, issue to the members entitled to receive notice of such a General Meeting the names of the candidates for office. For the avoidance of doubt the provisions of Articles 48.2 and 48.4 shall apply to the nomination of a candidate pursuant to Article 57.4.
57.6 The provisions of Article 45.3 shall apply to any election to the office of President or Vice-President, pursuant to Article 57.4, save that the references to “Annual General Meeting” shall be deleted and replaced by the words “General Meeting”.
57.7 Any candidate elected pursuant to Article 57.4 shall be deemed to retire at the next Annual General Meeting at which the Office-Bearers elected pursuant to Articles 56 and 57.1 retire.
88 ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
57.8 The Scottish FA in general meeting may by a simple majority remove an Office-Bearer before the expiration of his period of office, and the person appointed in his place shall be elected in the manner provided in Article 57.4. The foregoing terms which apply to an Office-Bearer are subject to the terms of Article 60.
Tontine
My mammy still says the greatest man ever to walk was Jock Stein. Great judge my ma.
YNWA
TT
Either do I believe it or not, I am just pissed off at all the posters who can’t see that the board can do anything wrong, they have done so much wrong and yet they are immune to the consequences of their actions, that is my beef.
Canalamar
Looks like I’m right on how CEO appointed.
69. Secretary and Interim Chief Executive
69.1 Subject to the provisions of the Act, the Secretary shall be appointed by the Board for such time, at such remuneration and upon such conditions as it may think fit, and any Secretary so appointed may be removed by it.
69.2 The Board may from time to time by resolution appoint an assistant or deputy Secretary, and any person so appointed may act in place of the Secretary if there be no Secretary or no Secretary capable of acting.
69.3 The Secretary shall ordinarily also serve in the capacity of Chief Executive but, at the entire discretion of the Board, different persons may be appointed to office as the Secretary and the Chief Executive, respectively.
69.4 Without prejudice to Article 69.3, where the position of Chief Executive is vacant, the Board may (in its sole discretion) appoint an individual to act as Chief Executive on an interim basis and empower such individual to exercise such powers of the Chief Executive as the Board decides. Any individual acting in this capacity shall only hold those positions which these Articles state are to be held by the Chief Executive with the prior approval of the Board.
Kev
Sometimes things happen. If you renew your car insurance the day you crash your car then both things are related but one does not have to have influence the other.
“so the car crash explains the renewal” well in some ways it does – but in other it doesn’t.
The Secretary referred to above means the Chief Executive.
“Chief Executive” means, subject to Article 69, the Secretary of the Scottish FA from time to time;
So it just the Celtic Trust he doesn’t meet ?
He’s managed to meet the Res 12 guys once in 5 or 6 years
Great he’s got shareholders interests at heart, and engages with those representing such ?
CSA – supporters association- may have some shareholders as well
TT,
For a very long time I agreed with your sentiment on bringing home the silver ware but I’m no longer willing to accept that, these professional executives are affiliated to professional institutions that have codes of ethics as well as legal requirements that go with their positions, apparently it’s ok for them to ignore corruption but have no problem assisting the police in framing Celtic supporters.
Auldheid,
I never said you were wrong, I was only asking if you remember what positions qualified Gordon smith
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:40 PM
In the interest of accuracy, that meeting was with the CSA who according to yourself agreed to ask for that meeting to raise Res12, Res12 were guests at a CSA meeting with Lawwell. As yet we are waiting for the follow up meeting, no? Have the CSA lost interest?
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Does it matter how the meeting came about?
It was about Res12 and only about Res12 and PL and Company Secretary was there.
Good evening all from the Benidorm magic bus. Every day I get in the queue, get on the bus that takes me to you…..
CANAMALAR IT LOOKS LIKE OCD OBSESSION on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:53 PM
Auldheid,
I never said you were wrong, I was only asking if you remember what positions qualified Gordon smith
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I didn’t think you were. I just could not remember being so specific, so looked it up and having done so posted for all those interested in how an SFA President gets elected since it has been a recent topic.
Norriem,
The CST membership are shareholders, as I said, he sets his own priorities when deciding on what and who are the flame of the month.
Canamalar
It is a shite state of affairs but it is the Scotland we were reared in. Sham country
YNWA
Canalamar
When I said Im right, I meant my earlier half joking reference to funny handshakes after reading how a Chief Executive is chosen.
Canamalar
Thanks for response, I do understand that
His preferred communication is with CSA ( associations or/and affiliation) which he can control
Not sure he can handle a challenge as being delivered by your team ( Res12) – although I do also understand this is legal matters- he should though be engaging with you, and the Trust, both of whom are representing me and many thousand small shareholders
All You Good Good People Listen to me.
Embrace CSC
Gooooodnight CQN
In the words ofLeftclicktic
Thanks for being here and being Bhoys ???
( those of all views and opinions)
THE EXILED TIM on 1ST NOVEMBER 2018 10:47 PM
TT
Either do I believe it or not, I am just pissed off at all the posters who can’t see that the board can do anything wrong, they have done so much wrong and yet they are immune to the consequences of their actions, that is my beef.
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The underlying problem is that there is no accountability in Scottish football ,whether that is The Celtic Board, The SFA Board, the SPFL Board ,etc to anyone outside the football governing bubble.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
That is why Res12 is taking as long, but Celtic are answerable to shareholders and I understand that message has been given to the SFA, but one of the explanations (there are more than one) for the resistance to Res12 is that it is trying to make football authorities/boards accountable.