The Scottish Football Supporters’ Association (SFSA), an independent body of pan-club football fans, yesterday launched the first independent evaluation of Scottish football governance, at Holyrood.
The SFSA’s nationwide survey will assess, for the first time, supporters’ views on the current position of the game, including the performance of the game’s governing bodies in Scotland. The research will become an annual benchmarking & reporting exercise looking at all aspects of the game.
The SFSA’s online survey has been created in partnership with Prof. Dr. Axel Faix and Dr. Joachim Lammert, two experienced German academics who have undertaken similar evaluations on a national level in Germany and on a European level.
The SFSA, whose board includes former First Minister Henry McLeish; former MP and MSP Cathy Jamieson and Maureen McGonigle, Founder of Scottish Women in Sport and first female Scottish FA Council Member, has over 67,000 members supporting clubs across Scotland.
The SFSA is Scotland’s fans’ representative in The Football Supporters Europe network (FSE), an independent, representative and democratically organised grass-roots network of football fans’ in Europe with members in currently 48 countries across the continent.
You have invited to Have Your Say by getting involved with the project here.
Most importantly, you can participate in the survey itself here.
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THEGREENMAN
I’ll bite. Livingstone was looking for the source of the Nile,(or the night bus back from Glasgow)
Equally difficult.
You have me at a disadvantage with the other two,so I’ll need to jfgi as we call research nowadays.
Btw,yer John Knox outfit. Keep it for Halloween,you’ll go down a bomb. All that black. That fire and brimstone.
As long as you play it straight.
Try wearing all that black PLUS a respectful hair and face cover.
#BinTheUniUltras
#StripTheTitles
http://celticbynumberscom.ipage.com/unpacking-armstrong-and-avoiding-cognitive-dissonance/
I now have the numbers and language that help to show why Armstrong is so valuable. HH
BMCUWP
Ive no doubt you will get to the crux of the matter:)
We can get back to it.
Historical Fiction?
You decide:)
HH
Free the Southern Six Counties!
Spanish fixtures released, thought they were delayed till next week due to the arrest of the VP.
Opens with Barca – Betis, Deportivo – Real.
Looks like first Clasico is 20th December,
HH
Actually there are 3 Clasicos in pre season, one friendly and two legged Super Cup, interesting.
HH
Hi Paul67,
Sounds like a great initiative, some prominent backers.
It would be great to have a Supporters Association that could bite as well as bark.
Those at The SFA have been getting away with running a corrupt, incompetent organisation for far too long.
There is of course numerous other issues that Scottish Football has to deal with.
It’s been Seven years since Henry McLeish published his report… Scottish Football was in desperate need of positive reform.
The last Five and possibly the Five before that, the Authorities were dealing with the “Scotland needs a Strong Rangers” policy.
To the detriment of the whole of Scottish Football (including Rangers, may I add).
I get joining and surveying over the weekend.
— From the last thread…
BMCUW @ 9:57 AM & BLANTYRETIM,
“I expect we can defend every charge if we want to. But we just take it every time.
Interesting…
What would you suggest our defence should be?
Just~Curious
Hail Hail
BMCUWP
Knox was fond of referring to ‘Satan’s Bluidy Clawes’, cracking turn of phrase he has:)
What a strange character indeed.
Throw Major Thomas Weir into the mix, and off we go on a magic carpet.
Dark Scotland.
Still Dark:)
Good fun though, in a warped kind of way:)
Wait till you read my comparative analysis on Knox and Al-Baghdadi:)
HH
RIOSKORRIE/ THE GLORIOUS BALANCE SHEET
Reading UEFA Disciplinary Findings it seems certain breaches appear to be a statutory fine; Fireworks = €19,000 this season – blocking of passageways circa €6,000 (or multiples depending on numbers?).
I note the SFA have been fined for blocked passageways (between their ears?)!
Interesting as to what the Media deem to be headline news outwith Scotland. Liverpool were subject to Disciplinary Findings in every round up to and including the Europa Final. They and Manchester United were both fined €40,000 for illicit chanting (at each other) during their Old Trafford tie and €17,000 each for; fireworks and throwing objects.
Liverpool were given 30 days to reach agreement with MU over payment of damages to the away section (seats/ toilets).
In fairness to the Celtic Board – very few Clubs take it to appeal (those that have did no better than get a fine reduction). Barca (supposed UEFA favourites) took the Catalan Flag display fine as far as CAS but withdrew their appeal.
It’s a UEFA money making competition – you either play by their rules (with all its foibles) or you don’t take part!
Was able to buy a ticket online for the season opener against Hearts, but it was painful and I wasn’t able to select my seat. Now, i don’t have a problem sitting where there’s any available seat – just happy to get one at all, but unless i got the last ticket for this game, then i should have been able to select which seat i wanted.
the product on the park has definitely improved, but when it comes to accessing other products – online ticketing, Celtic TV, the product is definitely not up to scratch. I would hope for improvements, but won’t be holding my breath.
EMERALDBEE\O/ STILL PROUD TO BE AN INTERNET BAMPOT on 21ST JULY 2017 11:16 AM
Anyone esle’s ears still ringing from the sound system (not the songs!!) last Wednesday?
*****
Mine were, so I wrote to John Paul Taylor. He has replied saying that they have had other complaints and that he has referred the matter to the relevant department. We await developments…
Chairbhoy
Defence re disciplinary
1. The police and stewards in the section failed in their duty, CFC had sufficient measures in place
2. Should UEFA have bibs for the teams and should they be given to teams prior to match?
3. How many provisionals had and Ultra jacket on( thin I know)
Last week
1. Booking of Leigh Griffiths joke as player was afraid for his own safety and actually had a half bottle in his hand as he was cautioned
2. Leigh tied scarf in front oh his own fans when there was/should have been no home support in the stadium.
Not going to win them but at least show that you won’t be taking their fines meakly
We have imo left it too late as we should have been questioning previous sanctions
good read on etims this morning.
Has there been anything said by the Club regarding the PSNI statement about the decision of Celtic not to take tickets for the Linfield game ? I seem to remember some mention of a reply to PSNI’s statement being held back until after the 2nd leg. it’s all gone a bit quiet since the issues around banners, scarves and bibs started hogging the headlines.
BMCUWP
You are probably thinking by now, wtf is he rambling on about:)
I should have said.
Constructed state history as opposed to the real thing.
Another wee name to have a swatch at.
Michael Scot. Very interesting man to say the least. Born 1175.
Seek and ye shall find:)
HH
BLANTYRETIM IS PRAYING FOR THE KNOX FAMILY
You’ve seen the video of LG tying the scarf right:))
Their end was still filled with foaming huns and there’s no way that what he did was ever going to fly with UEFA. They only have to ask why he was doing it and the defence crumbles..
The ref also told Griff a couple of times to get on with it, he didn’t take the corner would be UEFA’s defence that’s why he was carded, very unfair in the circumstances but the ref didn’t admit his mistakes and UEFA would never throw him under the bus..
I get what you’re trying to say mate but I knew we were in trouble as soon as I saw Griffo heading to the goalposts..
THE GREEN MAN
Major Thomas Weir .
You probably have but on the off chance you haven’t -this is a fine novel (IMO )
James Robertson -The Fanatic.
SOT
Calvinist novel in the same vein as Confessions of a Justified Sinner by James Hogg?
Same idea?
HH
SOT
Yes…i will be glancing at that.
Exactly what im talking about.
HH
This letter from a Jambo to Ann Budge probably speaks for all supporters.
https://www.sfm.scot/launch-of-sfsa-fans-survey/?cid=159557
We’ll worth reading.
SOT
This kind of formula?
English Civil War, Ranters, Diggers, Cromwell, The Covenanters, Major Thomas Weir, James Hogg, etc
HH
Bateen Bhoy- the Club are good at putting out ‘holding’ statements, but don’t follow them up , at least not publicly.If pushed, they will say it has been sorted out privately.HH
SOT
Abiezer Coppe, ‘A Fiery Flying Roll’ 1649
HH
AULDHEID
That’s a very good letter from the Jambo, let’s see if Mrs Budge will budge in the face of his own fans ire over the situation.
Good to know that other supporters are not intending to roll over and let Regan get away with this outrage.
Thanks Auldheid
For the hand wringers who deliberately mis-represented what I said last night about Celtic’s foundation and Br wolfed, here is exactly what I wrote:
DD, great to meet up with you and ACGR last night; pity Hot Smoked wisnae there!
Just a wee thought on all those criticising the Celtic Support bringing politics (Irish politics at that) into Celtic Park; if it wisnae for Irish Politics Celtic wouldn’t exist, and I’m reminded of that everytime I go to St Mary’s for Mass and see that wonderful mosaic just inside the door commemorating the founding of Celtic Football Club in that Parish in 1887.
We were built upon politics; we were built upon the Irish Diaspora. It’s in our DNA. If we remove that, we move our heritage and are no longer Celtic Football Club.
UTLR
KTF
At no time did I suggest that this was tantamount to Br Walfrid sanctioning the IRB, the IRA, PIRA, the Real IRA or any other para-military organisation; or their deeds. I wouldn’t dream of making a statement on what he would or would not support, although I have my own views on it.
However, I stand by what I said. Irish politics is in our DNA and should not be removed; it’s why the Club was founded and we should always be proud of and take note of that. The politics of poverty still drives a lot of what the Celtic Foundation and Supporters groups do today (our own CQN and Mary’s Meals for example).
IMHO, to deny that is to deny the very essence of the Club. As it is often said, Celtic are more than just a club!
KTF
Bada Bing,
Yes, it’s been noted. I always thought the ‘P’ in PLC meant Public, but apparently not :-(
Starry Plough
Apologies for yesterday, i was on one:)
Nothing new there:)
HH
SP
Linfield fans shouldn’t have been in the stadium
UEFA ask that away fans are asked to stay behind
When Griff tied the scarf players where doing the ‘warm down’ on the park. That doesn’t happen immediately after the final whistle
There is absolutely no way he should have Ben booked and any sane appeals panel would agree..
BLANTYRETIM @ 12:31 PM,
Thanks for the reply. It’s unfortunate we could not appeal Griffiths Yellow – the officials apparently couldn’t tell Celtic at the end of the game what it was for. The retrospective things that came to light, ie The 5-1 gesture and the scarf would not have been in the Referees report presumably.
Watching that match, I saw two completely different performances from the Referee in the first and second halves, it struck me that UEFA had decided we were not going to stuff Linfield in their own back yard during that “glorious” week.
Too much of a risk they could get ugly…
In general terms with UEFA’s pernickery rules backed up by strict liability it’s always going to be difficult to mount a defence against their charges.
You get the feeling it’s a revenue stream as much as a Disciplinary Code.
Sion made a point of standing up to them… it didn’t end well (didn’t start that great either actually:).
So you have to determine how much resources we throw at defending these charges.
But as far as Griff tying the scarf round the Linfield Goalpost and TGB banner at Celtic Park, they for me are own goals that give UEFA our head on a platter.
By getting “officially” punished for these we allow the Banana Monkey Tribe to take the Moral high Ground… this is seriously detrimental to our credibility when we are looking for support and solidarity in our attempt to seek a Review of the SPL Commission.
Hail Hail
THE GREEN MAN .
The Fanatic .
It is about history and imagined history.. . .
Fiery Flying Roll ? – a blast from the past…Memory of being dragged to visit his grave in Barnes
THE GREEN MAN SAYS SACK THE BOARD
No problem mate, believe it or not yer auld pal hates tae see ye lose the rag.
I watched the film by the way, powerful film, tears of rage and of remembrance from yer comrade.
If ye think how we lived here in the 60’s and did those houses no remind you of the ones they built in the Gorbals that then had to be pulled down because they were designed for warm weather countries like Algeria or something:((
The poor and the needy and the vulnerable still at the bottom of the heap in this day and age.
Thanks for the continuing tips of reading and seeing material.
HH
SOT
Coppe is powerful indeed.
What a rant that man could go on, still astonishing in its impact when you read it.
Fascinating period from the Scottish Reformation to Cromwell.
Somebody should write a script and film it.
Can you get access to a film camera by any chance:)
HH
Playground finger pointing whatabouterie, the Uni Ultras made an .rse of it simple as that, we’ve long enough in Europe ffs to know how they operate, and the Uni Ultras know how UEFA operates too, so imo those defending them for doing something they knew was wrong to me seems silly, the Uni Ultras knew exactly what would happen, same as they have previous for, remember the match the fine CON, they don’t care about fines, closed door games, closed sections, that’s what they want, don’t you get that, they want Celtic Park shut down to suit they’r agenda, laugh you may, but the Ultras won’t pay.
#BinTheUniUltras
#StripTheTitles
GIRFUYs HH
BLANTYRETIM IS PRAYING FOR THE KNOX FAMILY
Do you think at any point UEFA would ask Celtic why Griff tied the scarf to the posts??
Maybe I’m just a realist…
The booking was very unfair never seen anything like it but that would be the Refs and UEFA’s side..
Anyway Celtic are not going to go in there and make complete James Hunt’s of themselves by defending Griff using whataboutery etc etc when he’s bang to rights…I would have challenged the booking and we don’t know if the club did or not but it’s easier now on here to condemn Celtic at every turn with or with out the facts..
Starry Plough
We will sit down yet, and toast the family:)
HH
Auldheid- great letter from the Jambo, to be shared.HH
AULDHEID on 21ST JULY 2017 12:57 PM
Great letter by the Jambo!
KTF