The Scottish Football Supporters’ Association (SFSA), an independent body of pan-club football fans, yesterday launched the first independent evaluation of Scottish football governance, at Holyrood.
The SFSA’s nationwide survey will assess, for the first time, supporters’ views on the current position of the game, including the performance of the game’s governing bodies in Scotland. The research will become an annual benchmarking & reporting exercise looking at all aspects of the game.
The SFSA’s online survey has been created in partnership with Prof. Dr. Axel Faix and Dr. Joachim Lammert, two experienced German academics who have undertaken similar evaluations on a national level in Germany and on a European level.
The SFSA, whose board includes former First Minister Henry McLeish; former MP and MSP Cathy Jamieson and Maureen McGonigle, Founder of Scottish Women in Sport and first female Scottish FA Council Member, has over 67,000 members supporting clubs across Scotland.
The SFSA is Scotland’s fans’ representative in The Football Supporters Europe network (FSE), an independent, representative and democratically organised grass-roots network of football fans’ in Europe with members in currently 48 countries across the continent.
You have invited to Have Your Say by getting involved with the project here.
Most importantly, you can participate in the survey itself here.
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TGM 6.06.
Serious question.
You know over on fascist fascist its been shown that certain posters are there just to promote Kings agenda, do you think it’s the same on here with Peachy Lawwell?
Hail Hail.
Not surprised that Celtioc have a season ticket sellout now that the SPFL is back to full strength with Hibs promotion and of course not forgetting the attractive football of the Invincibles.
Seems like a bit of an extreme over-reaction to me and accusations of double standards in reference to died team supporters antics and the docomented cheating are well founded.
However the rules relating to pyros are well know, even if I admit enjoying the display against Hearts and showing it to a few people here in Germany. Also the banner display on Wednesday was ill conceived and a reaction should have been expected. Regarding the song book, we regularly play these tunes in the pub here in Germany and I was singing along with all of them in the pubs in Lisbon in May but in the stadium they are just not worth the hassle, save it for behind closed doors. It’s easy to say that the songs are not sectarian and I wholeheartedly agree but I don’t need to have to explain it constantly to my English friends, who know nothing about Irish history and only hear one thing in the song ” IRA”, remember they have spent a lifetime hearing only one side of the story and a very skewed version at that.
BLANTYRETIM IS PRAYING FOR THE KNOX FAMILY on 21ST JULY 2017 5:22 PM
KNUCKLE DRAGGERS IS IT
I’m away
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I didn’t realise you sit in the section affected. Hope you know i was referring to the minority idiots and not you and yours. It’s unfortunate that others will miss out due to the actions of the few. And to clarify, when i say knuckle draggers, i mean idiots.
Agree that this sanction is hardly a ‘knee jerk reaction’ – this is not a first offence. It has been ongoing since the Hearts game in May and before then, as there have been numerous rule infractions and fines prior to this.
It would seem that some supporters think they can behave as they please without consequences – not true. Yesterday I posted the Code of Conduct that all Season Ticket holders agree to when they buy a season ticket. I also posted the sanctions possible for misconduct. We now have 52k+ STHs – perhaps we should all read them.
Celtic do not measure ourselves against any other club. Their conduct or lack of it is irrelevant – ‘whataboutery’ at its worst – and cannot be used to excuse misconduct from some of our supporters. It’s our supporters’ behaviour that matters and reflects on the club , no-one else’s.
The pyros and questionable subject matter on banners are used with full knowledge that there will be likely sanctions and fines for the club, and also in full knowledge there will likely be no personal comeback on those responsible. perhaps after today that will no longer be the case.
The great pity is that the GB create a brilliant atmosphere and some very clever and stirring banners – then they get it very wrong. I go to CP to watch football and support my club, not get lessons in history or politics. There is a time and a place for that- and CP is neither.
JNP
Undoubtedly.
There are people determined to stop Celtic whatever way they can. The PLC go right along with it.
Loads of paid lackeys online.
If you want a heated driveway, you need to shut people up, dont you?
HH
The Banner Debate is the new Songs Debate, open to interpretation.I got a text at the Hearts game, saying guys round about him were burned by melting plastic , and had clothes ruined due to the flares.They cause panic and alarm in a confined space, flares are not up for debate IMO.
100% agree with the board on this.
These supporters are out of order. How anyone can criticize our leadership here is beyond my understanding
MNCELT
Was it all the supporters who flew those banners, or just a few?
Why punish the innocent fans?
Does that make any sense?
HH
TGM. 6.19.
Thanks for the reply.
Since Wed evening I’ve been very surprised at some of the complete O.T.T. reaction to a couple of banners. Then The PLC statement came today and I’m like mmmm.
Now everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the name calling because of a couple of banners saddens me. How many were singing The Broad Black Brimmer and The Boys of the Old Brigade, proscribed songs, I believe,not that I’m saying they should be, a tad more than one section of the stadium. Indeed a heck of a lot more than a tad. Agendas and hypocrisy at work, I think.
Hail Hail.
I’m pretty sure that the club have done this to mitigate whatever UEFA might do. Will it work? Don’t know.
An interesting one for political scientists or sociologists – why have the football authorities focussed so much on non-violent actions of supporters and indeed clubs?
Or maybe there is a very simple explanation?
It seems that the idea of ‘corporate ethics’, which is largely meaningless ( I make no apologies to those of you who sit in focus groups at your work, talking about such bollox) is a fig leaf for real ethics at UEFA as it is in most big organisations. The evidence? Financial corruption abounds in football. We all know it.
It doesn’t excuse the banners, which were pretty pointless, but I am genuinely interested in the origins and ongoing implementation of punishments and how they are decided.
For example, linfield and Sevco fans can sing for 90 minutes during the games about false accusations of child abuse against Celtic fans but this does not fall under the remit of the ‘ethics committee’. It’s puzzling.
The safe behaviour stuff – flares and blocking exits- different matter. Clear public safety issue. Those responsible should be dealt with.
Bada Bing. 6.29.
I agree.
Hail Hail
Hugh Keevins, should be Celtic FC’s PR Officer….
but, he will never be, because, he knows more about….
Celtic FC, and, he has more Celtic-ness in his wee toe….
than you’ll find, in the entire PLC boardroom.
Celtic players will play, in a library, without the GB.
And, that is a sad reflection of the, plasticness….
that envelopes the entire club.
It dizny have to be like this.
……off-oot.
Overall I like the GB. I like the atmosphere and displays they put on, they are a credit to our Club with their fund raising efforts.
I’m not into the ultra thing and I believe the concept to be foreign to Celtic FC. We are all Celtic supporters, there is no hierarchy.
The GB need to stop the flares and the political banners (although I support the continued flying of Palestine flags). Celtic have maybe pre-empted a partial closure enforced on us by UEFA with today’s announcement.
I’m over Wednesday and will be disappointed to see empty sections at Celtic Park. Let’s get this sorted and concentrate on the great football.
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You can’t join the green brigade.
They are a closed group with their own rules. Fair enough, up to them.
If you don’t follow the rules, you’re out of the group.
Celtic have rules too. Follow them or don’t go. Fairly simple concept.
P.S. singing about the IRA at the football doesn’t make you a ‘rebel’.
JNP
Yes, its all constructed.
The PLC are quite happy to bask in the GB when things are good, make money off their displays etc, photographic rights etc.
But as soon as the Huns shout jump, The PLC say, ‘How High?
Just have a look at the PLC, who is there, what their backgrounds are.
Celtic supporters? No, i dont think so.
If they were Celtic supporters they would stand up for the club, but they dont.
It sticks out a mile.
HH
I just want to commend Bateen Bhoy at 6.10, a truly commendable real Celtic response to BT.
Hate to see supporters divided & using unfortunate phrases to describe fellow Celts, hopefully this can be resolved and maybe we in CQN could help by being more considerate & temperate in our posts.
Bateen Bhoy has led by example, good on you pal.
Jimmy not Paul and TGM,
Out of interest: Are you in the standing section affected by this ban?
Your views appear to be so reactionary that I would guess so….
Most Celtic fans seem to be in support of the board’s actions to put an end to the non Celtic banners, the pyro and the disregard for safety.
You appear to be intent on having a dig at the Celtic board. The same board that is 1000% better than the board we had when I was a lad. The same board that brought in BR and is backing him in the transfer market. The same board that asked the SFA for a re-evaluation of the EBT cheating scandal…The Same board that is the envy of those across the city and indeed across the country.
The Sevco board make the most ludicrous statements backing their fans and threatening media for telling the truth about their perilous state and their dodgy dealings. How would you feel if the Celtic board came out with such amateurish guff?
Perspective needed me thinks……
Its sevco who decide what PL does.
They run the show obviously.
The Celtic PLC, do what they are told.
If they want to stay on the gravy train, they have to shut up.
The PLC giving Celtic supporters identities to the Police.
Yeah, that sounds like the kind of thing Celtic supporters would do?
Not.
HH
Sunburst
You believe what you like.
It doesnt wash with me.
I know what the PLC are all about. Doing what the huns instruct, they are good at that.
Reactionary?, was it me who gave Celtic supporters addresses to the Police? Or was it the PLC?
HH
TGM
Have you given any consideration to our Manager?
Did you support the banner?
If not, what should we do about it, what is your alternative?
Sevco decides what Peter Lawwell does?
Are you out of your f@@@ing mind? Are we supposed to take that seriously?
What “gravy train” is this? What is this “bigot pound”?
Listen, I don ‘t jump into these conversations a lot, for good reason. They are wearying. But this one has gotten ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous.
The “bigot pound” is a reference to Sevco and Rangers before them. It is a nod to an organisation that builds its entire identity on the promotion of bigotry. It can be extended to those clubs who put a higher premium on a couple of gates a season than they do on doing the right thing.
Celtic has just sold out its season ticket allocation.
Do you think we DEPEND on Sevco’s paltry “contribution”? Most of it probably goes out the door on broken toilets and seats. And the rest? Well that goes to “paid lackies online.”
To keep Sevco afloat.
What utter, utter, utter pish some of our fans believe.
AN DUN on 21ST JULY 2017 6:42 PM
Celtic have maybe pre-empted a partial closure enforced on us by UEFA with today’s announcement.
Agreed. Pretty sure Celtic will have had an input from UEFA that if Celtic don’t take suitable action then UEFA will do it for them.
Don’t always agree with everything the board do or say, but, like him or loathe him, Peter Lawwell is one of the best connected football executives in Europe.
The 900 “GB” affected are less than 2% of the STH number at CP. I’m sure that a fair number of the remainder would be more than a little angry if they lost access to a European game at some time in the future for the behaviour of a few.
Did PL condemn the racist abuse of SS?
No, he did not.
What does that tell you?
HH
James Forrest
Who asked you to comment?
Do i comment on anything you write?
You know what you can do, dont you
Sunburst.
Strange post about me.
I guess you don’t read too many of my posts.
See 6.39 for example.
Hail Hail
Yeah I know exactly what I can do.
With all respect (about as much as you give other people) I’m not the one suggesting that SkintCo, with the criminal chairman, which was just pumped out of Europe by a Luxembourgan team and which is a complete basket case barely able to run itself is actually running Celtic.
A damned good job they’re doing of it too. Funny they can’t get their own s@@t together, isn’t it?
TGM
It’s a fans blog – open to all to comment – constructive disagreement is encouraged otherwise it’s boring
I think PL will have been given the nod that anything going amiss next Wednesday will have pretty damaging consequences for the club. Otherwise, why sacrifice the advantage of having the GB on a crucial European night?
Tens of thousands of Celtic supporters go to Celtic Park for every game. How many are ‘members’ of green btigade or CQN? Just asking.
James Forrest
The day i need you to put me right on anything, will never come.
You can come see me anytime you like if you want to bump your gums, not hard to find me.
I agree with the stance taken by Celtic. The GB has brought a creative atmosphere to the stadium so unique to world football. Unfortunately it is overshadowed by their immaturity and a certain arrogance that they are above the laws/rules set by the authorities. Ok, we may not agree with these rules and regs and they are often ambiguous , however the place to challenge the boundaries is not in the stadium at the expense of the reputation of CelticFC, the support, and more importantly the financial implications – the latter will get much worse when UEFA actually bans us from competition – this is where its heading and Celtic are right to curtail it.
Stop the childish cry for help and support the club entirely through football anthems and banners – or find an alternative route to voice your agenda.
Hail Hail Glasgow Celtic – a team open to all creed, religion, etc etc..
I wonder if LG would still have been booked if they smashed his head in with that bottle?
What you just wrote; do yourself a favour.
Read it aloud. Say the words instead of just writing them. Actually say them out loud, and to another person perhaps. Watch the look they give you, somewhere between disgust and actual stark staring bewilderment at the totality of how you’ve lost your mind.
You know what you’re acting like?
Yeah, I think you probably do.
Corkcelt
I see you were watching Rosenberg / Dundalk game the other night.
What was your view on The Norwegians? Have they got enough up front to bother our somewhat shaky central defence?
James Forrest
Let me be clear James, and im choosing my words here, who the fuck made you boss
Ron. 7.08.
D.D., posted the other night that G.B. only have 80 members.
Considering CQN are known as,a bunch of boring old gits by the other blogs, I would imagine, the answer to your question is about 000.01 % :-))
Hail Hail