I long ago promised to take nothing for granted regarding the Rangers Tax Case, as it confounded my predictions from the off, but with the matter underway today with its final arbiter, The Supreme Court, I’m prepared to go as far as to say: so far, so good.
There is a long way to go – so no one should be out celebrating a draw. The matter will not be settled by the performance of a QC on his feet, rather the finer points of law. Today has been interesting, so far, but we will hopefully be well into our next Champions League group stage games before we hear the outcome.
Alzheimer Scotland were in touch yesterday and asked me to send you this message:
I know they were enormously appreciative that Billy McNeill’s family decided to go public with his situation two weeks ago. The encouragement they have had since has fortified their efforts. Your donation of £3264 blew them away.
Thank you.
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tonydonnelly67 on 16th March 2017 8:20 am
That made me laugh out loud!
Very good.
KTF
Ghosh, right on the money.
Mark Herbert QC, representing the Advocate General for Scotland, indicated that the payments were repayable on death, with interest.
“It’s a curious position for a trustee to be having to adopt,” he said.
Julian Ghosh QC, representing the Advocate General for Scotland, said the payments “simply replaced a cash bonus paid to them and they were told that the reason…was to avoid tax.”
He noted that the payments to footballers and executives were “discussed with them before the payment”.
He added: “So far as the footballers are concerned, they were recruited on a single package.”
Sipsini, I hope you got on better than Mr Bowie!
http://spectrumculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/man_who_fell_to_earth.jpg
KTF
” Souness: “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser!” ”
I was thinking of having a wee read of Bertrand Russell or Jacques Derrado but Souness sounds more challenging.
JJ
Sipsini, “here’s looking at you kid “!
HH
SIPSINI on 16TH MARCH 2017 8:28 AM
Tony D…
He only lurks mate but recognises a lot of the monikers… Asked if I’d met a certain Tony Donnelly that likes to mix it:))
Ye I said, he’s actually a paper tiger:-))
Ffs sipi, don’t tell them to much, they awe think they know me :))
THE EXILED TIM on 16th March 2017 8:31 am
Davidopoulos
Thanks, I didn’t really think so, was hoping more than anything else.
Looks like we may well see a few bankrupt ex footballers out there then, shame :-)
HH
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I’ll whisper it, but I do have a teeeeeeny bit of sympathy for the footballers – when you boil it down they were very poorly advised.
Macjay1
Well you certainly didn’t respond at the weekend when I took the trouble to provide links and quotes, following your Rangers (sic) post, following what you no doubt would call the Old Firm game.
As MWD said at the time, you’d have been as well posting ‘Rangers Then, Rangers Now, Rangers Forever”.
However, my post today wasn’t intended to bring all that up again, merely to point out your lack of self-awareness in referencing Orwell.
Still, you keep on giving comfort to the propagators of the Big Lie, if it makes you happy.
Succour!
Magic moments–
Champions League highlights thing on Italian tele -. Arrigo Sacchi in the studio and the great Paolo Dybala doing an interview via a video link —
Arrigo Sacchi — ” Paolo , I think you are a wonderful player . I remember Roberto Baggio describing you as the Number 10 of the future . Looks like the future is already here .. I have a question for you — I’ve noticed that you complain to the Referee much more than you did at Palermo . Am I right ? ”
Paolo Dybala _”Yes, I think you’re right “.
Arrigo Sacchi – ” Why the change ? ”
Paolo Dybala – – ” Winning is much more important now “…
Sunny , clear blue sky , cold wind -way down south —
SIPSINI
You’ve had your eyes fixed !
That awkward Shallow Hal moment when you realise the slim blonde you’ve going out with , er … well …isnae !!
:)) hope nothing serious pal .
Catchye .
vfr
“Souness: “Show me a good loser and I’ll show you a loser!”
A truism methinks! ”
I have to disagree. The statement is only obviously true if we all agree on what it means or its intent. Like all aphorims it is, for me, a kernel of truth surrounded by either a falsehood or a simplification of the truth, ignoring complexity.
This particular example, for me, all hinges on your interpretation of the phrase “good loser”. Those that agree with the statement tend to interpret it as meaning someone who is ok with losing, verging on being comfortable with it and leading to being complicit in allowing defeat to happen. In that case there is your kernel of truth- anyone who gives up easily is highly likely to be a regular loser.
Yet, there are other interpretations. John McEnroe and our own, Andy Murray were, I would asset “good losers” in that they reacted well to losing by studying why and becoming less likley to lose in future. Both raged against losses but were seen as a brat and a choker respectively. But they did not become better winners (neither did or could avoid losing when they improved) by just sulking or having tantrums- there are legions of “bad losers”- guys who merely sulk and tantrum who remain good at losing because they do not think any better or try any harder.
What good sportsmen do is learn from defeats and reduce, but not eliminate, the chances of it happening in future. It is not the quality or intensity of the tantrum, sulk, anger, or bawling that they produce on a loss that leads to improvement- it is the determination to get better.
Every sportsman has to countenance defeat, endure defeat and learn that defeats are pretty much inevitable. Outside the realms of legend, I know of no major sportsman who remained undefeated. I daresay, there may be some boxers who retired, after enriching themselves, who had an undefeated “pro” record, but those are examples of people who got out and sought not to risk future sporting contest- they avoided defeat by taking themselves out of the arena where defeat was possible, indeed inevitable.
So, I think the saying gets a little nearer to the truth by expanding it to become:-
“Those who are comfortable with losing are more likely to succumb with less fight. Those who learn from defeats are less likely to lose as much in future. And those that merely tantrum and rage and sulk are a mixed bunch of losers, average guys and a few winners”
More truthful but not snappy enough to be a lying aphorism that looks like a truth
“That which yields is not always weak”
Duties done off to work .
And talking of losers, I see that our very ain Teemu Pukki, dubbed an obvious non-scoring midfielder by some experts, has scored 22 goals in 32 matches for Brondby domestically and in the Europa this season, including a hat trick against Hertha Berlin.
There was something wrong with the boy’s face when he played with us as he always failed to convince on confidence terms but there was a good player in there, it seems.
Bugger Russell, Derrado and Souness……I will just read SFTB .
JJ
I’m aff too
Good news if true……
BT Sport are ready to offer the SPFL their biggest-ever broadcasting deal in return for exclusive rights to Scottish football.
BT and Sky Sports currently pay around £21million a year to share 60 live SPFL games, while BT also have exclusive rights to the Betfred League Cup.
However, the telecoms giant are keen to secure the rights to Rangers and Celtic games and 60 live Premiership fixtures a season, and have launched a charm offensive to persuade club chairmen they can go it alone.
And SPFL sources believe they will shatter the previous record deal worth £31m a season – which was signed with Setanta in 2008 – to get their way.
BT Sport last week signed a mammoth £1.2billion three-year deal to renew coverage of the UEFA Champions League and Europa League.
By comparison, the sums under discussion for Scottish football represent a drop in the ocean.
But a series of formal and informal discussions between the two sides began in mid-January when chairmen and chief executives joined the SPFL’s Ralph Topping and Neil Doncaster in London for talks with BT executives.
SPFL figures have also attended a presentation at Twickenham, home of English rugby, to gauge the impact the broadcaster’s coverage of the Aviva Premiership has had on match attendances and viewing figures. Figures show the former rose by 10 per cent and the latter by 13 per cent.
The sums shared between clubs for broadcasting rights took a huge dent when Setanta’s UK operation collapsed in 2009.
Forced to do a knockdown deal with Sky and ESPN worth half the value of the previous deal, the loss of the regular Rangers-Celtic fixture in 2012 further diminished the product’s value in the eyes of broadcasters.
With Old Firm games back on the menu, however, BT Sport have used a series of formal and informal early discussions to woo SPFL figures and edge ahead of rivals Sky in the negotiating process.
‘It will all come down to numbers,’ an SPFL source told Sportsmail. ‘There is a value in Scottish football and BT Sport appreciate that. The matter should move forward next year.’
As part of the new Champions League deal, BT Sport will release free clips and weekly highlights. A similar package is on offer to the SPFL.
Sky retain rights to the William Hill Scottish Cup until next year and will hold their own discussions with SPFL chairmen in the coming months.
Davidopoulos
I don’t, not one iota.
Greed got them where they are, they should just pay tax like the rest of us plebs.
HH
With the EBT scheme the loans are repayable on the death of the recipient, right? (presumably therefore a debt against the estate and thereby reducing the value of the estate for inheritance tax purposes).
But what then happens to the funds that are paid back to the trust? Are they lent out again to the recipient’s beneficiaries? And so it continues down the generations?
GARY67 on 16TH MARCH 2017 9:06 AM
‘Good news if true……’
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So long as Sutton is commentating, that’s good news for Celtic.
His tendency to call it as he sees it is the only constraint that’s been exercised on the unfortunate errors being made by referees.
” I hate losing . Losing sucks . If my players don’t hate losing they can go and play for Inter ”
Antonio Conte
“With Old Firm(sic)games back(sic) on the menu”.
Shit, there goes ma world-class breakfast!
You can hate losing without behaving like a stroppy toddler having a temper tantrum if it happens..
Magnanimous in victory, gracious in defeat should be the way to go.
Anything to bin that rat McCann, Walker can foxtrot oscar too
Fank thuck Cheltenham’s oan so we can get some Sporting Integrity around here!
Emdae got a spare shirt?
Davidopolous said:
” I’ll whisper it, but I do have a teeeeeeny bit of sympathy for the footballers – when you boil it down they were very poorly advised.”
Whilst I can sympathise with that view, I would say that people are more easily convinced when they want to be convinced. It is easy to convince Sevco fans that Sevco are Rangers and it is easy to convince Celtic fans that Rangers are Sevco 0:-)
JJ
I don’t feel any sympathy whatsoever for the ex Huns, greedy cheats if you ask me. The whole EBT thing reeked from day dot, if i was offered one my question would have been, why only pay a portion of my salary into one and not the whole thing. I tell you why, because it was dodgy. Murray thought they would never get caught but when the City of London police raided Ibrox it all came crashing down. GIRFU each and every one of them.
ernie said:
” Magnanimous in victory, gracious in defeat should be the way to go.”
Fair enough, ernie but how are we to respond after we draw? 0:-)
JJ
Hot Smoked
The difference being you can use the truth to convince Celtic fans.
Hell, you can even quote Charles Green’s QC!
Beatbhoy
One man`s truth and all that :-)
JJ
JJ
Sorry mate no sympathy, they where told it was a tax dodge, ergo they’r caught, f… um :))
Good morning from a resplendent Auchenhowie. I do love the decor of this ‘best in the world’ training establishment. The Blue hew is magnificent and I’ve never seen more perfect shades of blue in all my travels. And you all know I am a journeyman.
I’m looking forward to imparting my managerial knowledge of how to win championships on to these far superior players now under my tutelage. I even purchased my own blue paper and blue crayons on the way home last night. Because winning championships like we do is not just about winning championships it is about entertainment
Today I will coach my players on the training field. I will use the blue and bright orange cones today and draw for the players various tactical genius formations for them to enact and destroy all opponents we will face on our run to more glory in the next 3 years. I have noted that all players require physiotherapy for knuckle injuries they appear to consistently suffer from. An order for the best knuckle protectors available in sport has been drawn in crayon and passed to purchasing dept. for due consideration I am told,
Later today I will meet the intelligence of this club, Club 1872 & the RST. I will pay full attention to these guys as they, I am told, are the educated fans who attend supporting the famous historic Champions of Europe Elect club. Again I will facilitate this meeting by handing out the finest succulent pies and diluted orange drinks. I look forward to this meeting of minds.
I have a meeting with delegates of the fair refereeing society lodge No. 1690 lastly today. This will be an intriguing encounter as I will be requesting strong refereeing to protect my players from the brutality evidenced in the Old Firm encounter last weekend. How these skilful world class players professionally went about their task in the face of this brutally demonstrates their 100% love of this Champions of Europe Elect club. I have realised I am in the presence of not only the best footballers in the world but Greek like Gods.
Funny story from this morning. Arriving here’s at 5:30am I found was the last man to turn up for training. The players are so professional that they all arrive for training at 4:30am beginning their duties at 5am. Here was me still yawning on arrival. I noted in my Rangers diary that I will need to focus more on my own professionalism and personal failures. Although in my defence I was held up chatting to uber Old Firm fan Tony Donnelly 67 at the gates, as he wished to congratulate myself for the opportunity he had to watch my Champions of Europe Elect team win the greatest and most significant point in our clubs 144 year history (his words not mine) since our last point draw victory. I feel and hope to learn a lot from Tony over the coming years.
Need to go now. It’s world class 2nd breakfast time.
Bobby Madden demoted
BOBBY MADDEN, the referee in last Sunday’s Old Firm game, has been taken out of the spotlight this weekend after being put in charge of a Champ-ionship match.
The 38-year-old came in for fierce criticism following the derby, which ended 1-1, largely because of his decision not to award Celtic an injury-time penalty, which Brendan Rodgers described as “clear-cut”.
Madden has been given the Dunfermline-Ayr United match at East End Park on Saturday. The official is one of Scotland’s top referees and this was his first Glasgow derby.
“Bobby Madden……returned.”
Oh! Hehehehehehe hehehehe
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TD67
That, in a roundabout way, is what I am saying but although the Old Rangers behaved differently from all other clubs in Scotland, I am not convinced other teams` players would have behaved any differently. Some individuals, maybe but overall, I think most would have gone with the money.
I will still feel a sense of justice when they, the EBTers, cop for their just `rewards`.
JJ
Show me a good drawer and I’ll show you a good tallboy
I think it’s fairly obvious that the writing is on the wall for Sky and Scottish Football. Their product and production values have dropped. It could be said that they don’t care anymore.
They wanted 4 “Old Firm” (sic) games. Problem is that the viewing figures have dropped off a cliff with Sunday’s being 10th highest viewed Sky channel at the time of broadcast. Remember there was no other football being shown at the sametime.
Yes, caveat that viewing figures dropping all over as folk watch games differently now.
They now see the EPL and The Championship as their football cash cow. We will be cast of the boat as soon as possible.
BT, promote the game. TV is an evil for the match going supporter but when we are not at games we enjoying watching a good packaged product. BT do that.
News flash …
Due to the unfortunate need for Bobby Madden to officiate in a crucial championship game at the weekend ,( he hasn’t been demoted or put down a league ,he is still the Bobby Madden ) Hugh Dallass dog (coisty ) will be fast tracked to run the line at Dens parks game on Sunday. Any celtic supporters singing the usual chant when a dog is in a football stadium will be evicted from the stadium.
Jabba