Getting rid of the last guy is always the easy part. It is the day later, when your mind turns to appointing a successor, that your worries really start. The great problem with managers is that their careers do not proceed with success or failure evident in a linear manner.
The guy sitting joint second in England with a provincial Midlands club was sacked five years ago by Liverpool, who are adrift in sixth, despite having a genuine top tier manager. Davie Moyes reputation was fixed as one of the English game’s tired old options before he got a chance to return to West Ham and has them in a Champions League spot.
Mourinho is the classic example. Champions League winner with two clubs but he presides over the descent of Tottenham. Guardiola needs all the money in the world to keep Man City ahead of Leicester and still awaits a Champions League since parting with his Argentinian Midas. I enjoy watching City but Pep’s eight years there and at Bayern failed to deliver the trophy both clubs wanted.
All you really know about a manager with an impeccable record of improving players and teams is that his form will soon decline; they all do.
Systems bring sustained success in football. Deeply embedded, appropriately resourced and continually reviewed systems: recruitment, development and coaching systems in particular. Get this right and even Klopp would be able to push Liverpool above sixth.
297 Comments- Pages:
- «
- 1
- 2
- 3
- 4
- 5
- 6
- 7
- 8
- »
STEBHOY on 25TH FEBRUARY 2021 8:23 PM
Don’t they get clean-sheet bonuses?
CONNAIRE12 on 25TH FEBRUARY 2021 7:14 PM
There has been much speculation on here about Martinez and Maloney as possible candidates for our Manger’s job. Someone mentioned that while they were managing one of the best teams in the world, they may not have what is required to manage a league team.
One thing I am am almost certain about is their man management skills. As someone who spent four years at the Catholic University of Louvain (as then known) I can assure you that one has to be very careful about the linguistic division in that country, In my time there we had large scale riots about the linguistic problem. Today the ancient University dating from the 15th century has been divided into two linguistic ones, the Flemish one staying in the old buildings and city and the French speakers moving to a new one in the linguistic area of the Wallonia. The French speakers and Flemish are very clear about where the languages are spoken. I have often wondered what language is spoken during the cut and thrust of games.
——
Good evening
If memory serves, I seem to remember a BBC article during the last World Cup that said that English was the lingua Franca that they employed!
HH jg
One thing’s for sure, when our bank balance is reduced to near zero at the end of the season, unlike Ibrox, there will be no queue of rich supporters looking to ‘invest’ between £60/80m
in confetti shares.
Paul is right about systems & planning. However we now know that our ten year period of success was not down to systems & planning, rather it was about being the best of a weak bad lot. When a challenge finally appeared, we, in the prophetic words of Mr David Cunningham King, “collapsed like a park of cards”.
It appears that there is no vaccination for the virus sweeping Celtic Park.
Not sure Aidan will want his Season Ticket renewed.
He says to wait until the very end….. likely the 9th deadline.
Vaccination passports are a real no no for me and a real sign of Global Governance.
To be fair at least we were not charged for European and Domestic Cup games.
Lenny Stood up for Celtic……. None else currently there have.
Shameful.
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/dont-want-to-be-there-ex-celt-slams-players/
I suppose he should be able to spot the signs. Don’t remember him being that keen to hang around.
Systems or managers?
It depends. It’s not binary. It’s more like a spectrum. Now closely associated with the (one would hope) aligned business model.
If you have a closely defined system and business model (especially if you have a Director of Football), then the manager/coach can be more interchangeable – plug and play so to speak.
Because however sport is entertainment more than business, normal business rules don’t fully apply.
Charisma matters. On the field and on the touch line. Especially at clubs with ego and tradition like our own. When this meets an ego of similar size – eg Peter versus Brendan – bad things happen.
From what I can see, our business strategy has been to stay just far enough ahead in the old firm. And to buy ‘lots and cheap’ and hope for a diamond or two. Meanwhile (rightly) seeing entry to the EPL as an unlikely lottery ticket and European monies (wrongly) as an unpredictable, occasional bonus.
We’re a mess. An utter mess. The SRU are in a far better place than they were 5-10 years ago. And Scottish rugby faces the same big rich neighbour challenges that our football does. So fingers crossed…..
HH jg
Most European universities that offer masters teach in English
GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING on 25TH FEBRUARY 2021 8:48 PM
https://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/dont-want-to-be-there-ex-celt-slams-players/
I suppose he should be able to spot the signs. Don’t remember him being that keen to hang around.
———-
From the article
“They suffered their fourth Premiership loss on a miserable campaign against Ross County in Dingwall on Sunday night when the defence fell asleep yet again at a set-play. The Highland side’s giant frontman Jordan White was allowed to run away from the static Diego Laxalt and Scott Brown and get his head to Harry Paton’s left-wing free-kick delivery to bury an effort behind the stranded Scott Bain from six yards.
Remarkably, FORTY-THREE PER CENT of Celtic’s conceded league goals have come from deadball kicks. A totally inexplicable statistic.”
Hardly inexplicable when you’ve spent 6 lines explaining precisely how it happened and we’ve watched that same horror sieve show all season!?!
HH jg
Slavia Prague going toe to toe with Leicester and about 20 points in front of sparta Prague……type of market we should definitely be looking at…
“PS the huns have built a team to win football matches”
Well the are pretty shite at it to date mate, 3 years and 1 trophy…some return that
Martinez has a pretty decent club record. Got Wigan promoted and won the FA Cup; got Everton into the top six although admittedly it did start to go wrong there towards the end.
Played and managed in Britain so knows the game and culture…..
I personally think he’d like another crack at the World Cup before moving to La Liga or the Premier League but I guess a lot will depend on how Belgium do in the Euros. Do well, and he might be in demand.
Notthebus
They’ve won nothing yet 😨
Leicester down 1:0
Really can’t see why some fans keep saying Barkas is a dud.A real top quality keeper in Greece,and 33 Caps.Never made a blunder in any game.People saying he did not make many saves,but if you look at our games,no one really has too many shots against us,on target.He had about 4 penalties,and 3 or 4 deflections put past him,plus a couple of worldies.Dont know if anyone watches EPL,but they have world class keepers blundering every week,especially at Wolves,but the managers stick with them.With the shit show of a defence in front of him,is it any wonder he has taken time to settle.Hazard and Bain have lost more goals,made more blunders.
We are far too quick to write people off.
James Gang
Didn’t read the article as I assumed it was another ex Celt taking the money from the daily rectum/ soar away hun or daily heil
Hh
Slavia Prague brilliantly coached in this game.
Sutton did for Barkas IMO.
On his case from day one.
Hail Hail.
in ither news…………..
That pesky Covid infringement thing…
And aw they penalties?
Aye………….
……naw?
Turkeybhoy
I would agree re Barkas. Imo he is the best of the three and would benefit from a steady defence playing in front of him.
I’ve seen a couple of you tube videos and seen numerous good saves from club and international matches. I know YouTube can be misleading, but there is definitely a keeper in there.
Controversial maybe but I listened to John Kennedy today for the first time. Not saying he is the man for the job long term but he does come across well in my opinion.
Maybe not the most charismatic and probably not a natural fir a high profile coaching post but we need to give him a break over the next few months. Unless DD and the board have a rabbit up their sleeve we haven’t much choice. I’m really interested to see how we play on Saturday.
I do think things between him and NL never seemed quite what you’d expect in the manager/ coach dynamic. Just an observation
There seems to be a pattern with the Celtic players sidelined these days and I hope I’m wrong.
They mostly seem to be from abroad and possibly poor English speakers.
Which doesn’t reflect well on the staff at Celtic.
Fred C…….maybe sutton knew the inside story regarding lennon wanting Joe Hart….and was backing up his pal
With everything being a bit depressing ( football wise ) at the moment, just thinking……What would be an achievement over the next three or 4 years……. don’t mean defending a cross ball !
Would we say winning the league and a cup and getting into the group stages of Champions league be an achievement ?
I suppose I would be relatively happy with that ….
Like the idea of Slavia Prague manager, they seem well organised.
2-0 to Johnny Madden’s Slavia. Brendan having another shocker in Europe.
VINNIETHEDOG,
Must admit I have a thing about Sutton.
No fan of Celtic IMO.
Sutton is a Sutton fan.
Hail Hail.
This cisterns or managers thing is doesn’t hold water imo
Eratic – getting a well coached team on the park who are never beaten until the final whistle- ive never known Celtic to ever have looked so incapable of upping their game in adversity as this season. That will be the first measure. That will lead to winning the league and as you indicate, progress in Europe and not being everybody’s dream draw for an easy home win against us.
We remain the bestcresoyrced club in Scotland. The next 4 years should see us do 4 in a row.
I’m a bit weird like this but I would like a cup or three thrown in for good measure but I also quite like other clubs, except any club called rangers, to get their hands on a trophy now and then. I’d happily see our youth’s given a run at the league Cup and early rounds of the Scottish cup.
Bringing through the next Tierney, cal mac, forest, also measure of success.
We also need a new talisman or two. Some big personalities who lift the team, the fans, the club generally. Characters.
Our swagger is missing. I’d like it back.
Quiet on here but ill ask anyway, does anyone think there will be a new manager required at the crumble dome next season? Or will he stay for a pop at the CL regardless of which epl team offers him a gig?
And talking of crumbling asbestos ridden dens of bigotry, whatever happened to tales of failing roof struts? Was that remedied or was it bull plop?
4 in a row
Systems more important than the manager.
Is paul67 preparing us for a cheap and underwhelming manager?
Decided to google Dan Petrescu, and it seems he has indeed had more clubs than Jack Nicklaus
RT 9.52
Quite looking forward to going to another good game in Europe.
Think Stuttgart has been my favourite so far, great people and place.
Remember they (Stuttgart ) had Bonnie Tyler on before the game and they asked her who she thought would win, fair play to Bonnie she said I’ve got to go with my Celtic brothers.
Also can’t forget the Celtic fans singing along with Shania Twain at the end of the game…Man I feel like a woman….great times, hopefully back again soon.
Don’t want Thierry Henry and sorry to admit it is down to one (in the opinion of some) a petty reason – he cheated Ireland in the World Cup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLUxMRYJAso
Difficult decision for SG , does he hang on hoping Klop crashes or does he try another club in EPL ?
I think he might be off next year…
SCULLYBHOY
Agree.was thinking the same today when i posted about wanting Martinez and Maloney.
Thierry Henry. No thanks.
I’ve had enough Gaelic tantrums to last me a lifetime.
I would have Tony Mowbray first.
Aaaaaahhhhhhrrrrgggg…..
What a crap season.