On Saturday my mind wandered, as it does, to the demise of Gretna in 2008. The village team were bankrolled through the Scottish league system until promotion to the SPL in 2007 but then the cash ran out. The club went into liquidation a few weeks from the end of the season but while most of the first team squad were made redundant, a few remained on a week-to-week basis to see out the remaining league programme, assisted considerably by the SPL and Livingston FC, who made their ground available.
Should Rangers fail around the same time, I thought, how apt it would be for us to meet them in the Scottish Cup final. We would be there at the end to wave goodbye to a unique institution. Witnesses to the final whistle on a club with an enormously controversial history.
Unfortunately, my hopes were dashed by Dundee United at Ibrox yesterday, who Flushed Away the opposition and won their first game against an SPL team in 2012. We will have to scramble for tickets for the prospective event at another venue.
United seem set to try their hardest to spoil my enjoyment of the Cup. Our quarter final draw against them next month will be one of the toughest games of the season.
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Just watched the YouTube clip of tonight’s Whyte story.
Loved the backdrop photo they used of him.
Hehehe, stupid Huns.
They are very seriously goosed methinks.
Unless, unless BBC Scotland are taking sides in the fight which has started over the rotting corpse of the old Huns which is a ticket to the newhuns.
Mickybhoy1888
Aw don’t go, stick around and laugh a while :-)
The Spurs full back has combed his hair with a banger.
Callers to Clyde should have to pass a short IQ test before getting on the air. Dim-wits of all persuasions (mainly buns though) ruin that forum and make it too easy for Shug et al to dismiss valid arguments.
Incidentally, the Intesive Care Unit where the Rt Rev is currently in residence has had to remove the air freshener as there’s to be no pot-pourri in this hospital!
I’ll get me coat.
Comparing sally to honourable Tommy was disgusting
Twists
Awe Naw can now remember when you lived in that hoose on the OUTskirts and he will try not to make the same mistake again.
HH
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:40
Twists,
It must be a a Whitburn thing.
My list would bring the blog down
Amadeus,
Please stop talking in the 3rd person. It makes you sound like Sir Minty
Proud of all the bhoys who haven’t fallen for this non entity of a sto
ry. If the BBC were to investigate institutional bigotry within thier own offices. Then I would sit up and take notice. BBC doing Murray’s dirty work for him. How old is this information?
No demos and No Ally departure so let’s raise the stakes publicly.
Craig Whyte is a shyster but I would believe his word over Murray’s, The Record and BBC Scotland.
HH
Exactly I couldnt agree more, something stinks.
Bada Bing
:)))))) :)))))) :)))))) magic.
HAIL HAIL
Radio Clyde …….”guys, if you really need to come on here and gloat about another team’s demise, please at least be careful what you say”………twisting things to defend cheats, and ‘divert’ attention when they can’t answer the point…..and to vent their despair / frustration…..
Real Radio ………Derek Johnston……..” The other team in ORANGE “……..Dearie me…….what a FUD
This is what we are up against………………………………. (remember the ‘sniggers’ when bhuns came on slagging anything Celtic….and.their ‘gloating’ when Celtic were 15 points behind etc)….They’re still trying to mitigate rankers cheating the Tax System, instead of being gratefull that they have been finally CAUGHT cheating every team in Scotland / SFA / SPL / their fans etc)……truly incredible bias….born out of hatred of everything Celtic ………
….and they wonder why we resist, and why we are hopeful (to put it mildly) that simple JUSTICE will prevail, that a team which has cheated EVERYONE will be ‘brought to book’, ……and that Scottish Football can become a SPORT again, and not a platform for their historical hatred…..or a haven for CHEATS…..
LL…..Your ‘favourite team’ have behaved disgracefully over the passed 20 years (in particular) and you are now also behaving disgracefully by trying to mitigate / defend them
HELL MEND ALL OF YOU…….I#m very glad I wasn’t born into your culture / mentality….
Paul67,
Greetings! Oh Great One!,
I apologise for my recent non presence in your current timline. I have recently just ended my agent promotion endurances. You will be happy to know though that I was indeed successful and have been promoted to timverse agent 14. At one stage I feared I would not be successful when I ran out of sparklecream when I reached the posterior area of your future colossal statue outside of new parkhead during my last test and feared my promotion would be in jeopardy. Gladly, thanks to my cranial intellect of 735 I remembered an ‘old wives tale’ whatever that is and saved my promotion by using saliva and my elbow grease to shine the area of the statue. In even happier news, you will be glad to learn that your left butt cheek has been recognised as a landmark in New Glasgow due to its vibrant red shine.
Praise the Lawell!
THE EXILED TIM says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:40
Evening bhoys, hun free as ever.
TTT
Do you really think the LL will go after minty ?
*****
Whenever life has been going their way, the media are happy to support their demographic.
However, when things go wrong, even something relatively minor like a few bad results, or going out of a cup, they turn as rabid as any other Rangers supporter.
The difference with them is that they use bigger words.
At the moment, within the hordes, the heat is on Whyte. Whyte Heat.
once his balloon bursts, the anger will be directed towards Murray….and that will also come from the LL.
*****
bournesouprecipe says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:38
There would have been no chance of a “proper takeover”.
The business has been up for sale for four or five years, without a sniff.
It could only be a dodgy deal that would take the mess off LBG/MIH’s hands.
Therefore, “no proper”
scrutiny need apply”.
How come, instinctively, every Celtic supporter sensed from Day1 that there was something shifty about Craig.
PS.
I wonder will the permanently demented take to calling him Craig the Taig, when his part in their downfall is revealed!!
Clearly one of two things is happening – or it could be both.
Craig Whyte is the fall guy, to be the man who shut the huns down. Now this could be to protect Murray and whatever reputation he has left, or it could be to position a grouping to take over at some stage. Or, as I said, maybe both.
My question is, does it really matter to us who gets the blame? There is more than enough to go around when Liquidation Day finally comes.
Snake Plissken says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:51
As one wo is on twitter, I can confirm, you are a twitter star…
Paul Brennan @CQN
It’s clear Whyte will not sue the BBC, the previous threat was just bluster. They have him by the short and curlys t…
Paul67:
Love the irony posting back something shared on twitter.
Keep the Faith!
Hail Hail!
In business terms, CW is trapped in the shunky and there’s no paper! (apologies to any offence caused to the paperless).
Gordon J
Depending on what happens next it’s very important to ensure that all those who are to blame have it properly and publicly apportioned.
HH
Snake Plissken, just click on the ‘share’ link and get your wisdom out there!
hamiltontim, leave it with me.
j titor, my left butt cheek is delighted to hear that. I shall tend it carefully in future. Consider it cushioned.
Snake Plissken says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:51
————
and where is the original post that being twit-er-it-ered, ?
would like a wee read.
and when you getting back on RC to really put Shug straight ?
Martin on Snyde,
Possibly the most astute and fluently precise concise caller to date in his superbly calm analysis and
magnificent on air live appraisal the phony status quo of the MSM it’s new positioning of broadship brinkmanshipi in defence the ill winds that may befall the oldest rookie in town his ultimate plank walked dereliction of duty them compliments of heae to bedecked sailors on their good ship ranglers it’s accelerated plumbed nosedive to Davy Jones depths.
HH
Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:54
Italiabhoy
I never said that.
I said BBC Scotland was doing Murray’s bidding.
I stand by every word of my last post … Especially its gravity and timing.
HH
Fair enough. But you are completely wrong.
Saint Stvis
The original post is on page 5 of this thread. I didn’t think it was a big deal but there you go.
I’ve not called Clyde since last year because I work later now and have been getting my dinner when it is on but I’ll consider making a wee call before long.
Has anyone seen hide nor ‘hair’ of Mr Gordom Smith……….or even heard from the usually loquacious ‘head-honcho’?
Concerned.
For years now the permutations have seemed limited – RFC are bust, the huge over-valuation of Ibrox in their accounts has had them trading insolvent for many a year – it was only a question of when.
Now that the endgame approaches we are seeing the emergence of competing factions, and hence the willingness to ‘be honest’ about the straitened circumstances of RFC at first seems refreshing, but upon reflection may be supportive of other agendums…(usage/sp?)
Interesting times…
P.S. Radio Clyde SSB is a pile of poo, IMHO. As TBB pointed out, call with your facts to hand or don’t call at all…but hey, you may do that and still get cut off due to spurious ‘respect to the Alzheimer’s/blind community’ reasons.
WeAreTheBampotsCSC
Net cash position
Rangers interim accounts to end Dec 2010.. £5.22 million
Rangers unaudited accounts to end June 2011….£9 million
So, the net Cash position improved by £4 million in this 6 month period. Thats hardly what you would expect with a cash injection of £24 million from Ticketus, and Whyte having paid off the overdraft..
This suggests very strongly that the Ticketus money was not paid to Rangers , but in fact to one of Whyte’s companies, very probably RFC Group.
This then leads in my mind to a interesting question, which is the rights of minority shareholders. If , and I accept it is still IF at this stage, Whyte has personally received fund against assets or future revenue streams belonging to Rangers, then he has effectively marginalized (or worse) the minority shareholders.
Minority shareholders are protected by law, In particular I believe The Companies Act 2006 enshrines the shareholders rights over important decisions such as large asset sales. My view is that a long term contract such as the one entered into by Whyte with Ticketus is a de facto asset sale and requires shareholder approval.
Should Whyte have helped himself to this revenue stream for his personal benefit, then this may be a more serious matter
Let me give you the legal position as described by Mondaq.
Directors have a duty to declare to the board the nature and extent of any interest, direct and indirect, in any proposed transaction or arrangement with the company. It is important to note that the director need not be a party to the transaction for this duty to apply; if the director has an interest in someone else so transacting, he must notify the board.
However, no declaration is necessary if:
the director is not aware of his interest or of the transaction (but this is subject to a reasonableness test);
the interest cannot reasonably be seen as giving rise to a conflict of interest or if the other directors are already aware of it; or
the director is the only director of the company.
The director owes his duties to the company, and only the company will be able to enforce them, but shareholders may be able to bring a derivative action on the company’s behalf.
Procedure for declaring an interest
The declaration must be made before the company enters into the transaction or arrangement and may be made:
at a meeting of the directors; or
by notice in writing to the other directors.
If this declaration of interest proves to be, or becomes, inaccurate or incomplete, a further declaration must be made.
my take is that Whyte should have written to all Directors prior to the Ticketus deal. The Record said the Ticketus deal happened in early May. That is also my understanding.
Those Directors who should have been written to at that time included Martin Bain, Alastair Johnston, Paul Murrayand Donald Mcintyre. They also included John Greig and John McLelland.
An enterprising journalist may want to ask any or all of these gentlemen when they first learned of this transaction.
Snake Plissken
I read your chat with Paul about sharing your comments on tweeter.
You see what happens when you stay long in the land where the temperature swings from +34C to -30C and again goes up?
thomthethim @ 20.03
“There would have been no chance of a “proper takeover”.
The business has been up for sale for four or five years, without a sniff.
It could only be a dodgy deal that would take the mess off LBG/MIH’s hands.
Therefore, “no proper” scrutiny need apply”
Right again.
Indeed, there was no John Pilger or even a Mark Daly because there was no will, to investigate.
But the BBC, STV et all, are still hopeful and in active pursuit of a miraculous outcome, and how does the deposition of Craig Whyte
fit the agenda? You’ll notice he’s struggling already (17,722) and is quick to add “a witch hunt against him and Rangers FC” trying to keep
the rats from further deserting.
Where does it all end.
Good evening folks….needing to catch up on these great posts tonight….can anyone tell me first though what channel and at what time do we all see this new evidance on whyte???
Gordon_J backing Neil Lennon says:
My take on this is that until the FTT findings are published then the BBC will take on Whyte who let’s face it, is a pretty easy target. When the FTT decides against Dignity then the BBC guns will be re-targeted at SDM and his poodle bankers, the only aspect which may prevent a full expose is that criminal proceedings could get in the way.
This will end with a BBC reported outside a laundrette in Chipping Sodbury, where Dignity have a registered office (?), trying to interview Directors and find out where the money has gone……”and there you have it Catriona a total shambles, thanks Rob and now over to Judith for the weather”
Next one to break is how much is Whyte cleaning out each month in salaries and fees for himself and his cronies …….. how long can they keep it a secret?
PanoramaCSC
bankie @20.19
Gordon Smith’s Hairdressers
Evening all,
Went to School with Mark Daly, a fine fine gent.
Even finer now! Proper investigating for a change. I hope Minty’s next…..
I might ask him!!
mickbhoy1888 says:
6 February, 2012 at 19:54
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Think I will go and watch the paint dry
——-
That’ll be the most exciting thing youve done in years!
MWD
TTT
I would like to think you will be proven correct.
Maybe the jurnos themselfs might want to go after minty, but those on high will decide what gets published.
Now if they lose the tax case, and are hit with a large bill, minty will have been proven to be a tax fraudster, and if then there is a clamour for the sir thing to be taken off him, I can then see that the press may well go after him, but none of this will eminate from scotland, it will be the english media and politicos who will drive it.
The more I think about things re the tax case, the more I hope they are only hit with a small bill.
A small bill will keep them strapped for years, they are already skinto, they have a huge defecit which they can not service and stay competitive, they have sold off all their income streams, they have mortgaged half of the next 3-4 season ticket money, they will have to get their top earners off the wage bill etc.etc.
A big bill will see them liquidated, a newhunco will emerge from the sewer debt free, they will be free to start up their income streams, like the cattering and the merchandising again, realising a good income stream, their season ticket money will be their own.
And by the looks of it they may get an invite into the spl.
Choices, choices.
A slow death….
Or a rejuvinated new hun co……
Quote of the weekend from the exiting Ragers Fan on BBC Website after the defeat by Utd.
“The HMRC are going to have to do something because this is absolutely terrible”
Amadeus thinks that almost of all the relevations tonight on Newnight Scotland have been revealed already.
More’s the pity for the lack of directness, but CW is so litigious that eggs must not be broken…yet. Elf and safety gone mad, from what I hear. What happened to “publish and be damned”?
Nevertheless, it will be a good watch.
“Witch-hunt”, that made me laugh.
Let’s see if CW is laughing soon.
I have the feeling that we will be.
bournesouprecipe says:
6 February, 2012 at 20:21
“where does it all end”.
*****
It ends where the voices of Truth and Righteousness (that’s us, btw) want it to end.
Flushed away along with Paul67’s bodily functions!
Am I the only one that gets a sniff of the hand of Minty behind these BBC and Daily Rangers shenanigans over Whyte?
Stuffed with old-school servile huns, it’s almost incredulous to believe they’ve suddenly seen the wood from the trees and are venting on Whyte, Heid hun, without it being orchestrated by the deposed Heid Hun who had them lapping the succulent lamb juices from his kitchen floor for TWO DECADES.
An angle: Murray sells his debts for a pound, engineers the fall of their saviour Whyte, the club goes bust and in he comes, the whitewashed knight to ressurect Zombie Huns FC, refinance them on a more stable basis and begin again with no debt. All liability swallowed by Whyte’s vehicles and the old Rangers Co.
Another angle on the above: Whyte was in on it all along with Minty, did his job of scutling the ship, and gets a nice pay-off to fu-cough back to Monaco forever and a day.
Hmmm…
Sat 1st Dec 1979
St Mirren V Celtic.
Old style 2 points for a win.
14 matches played in the league.
anyone want to guess the position of Rangers (the original club ones) were in the league table as published
in the matchday programme ?
The BBC will not go after SDM.