The great United reunion, signing backup keepers

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Ronny Deila’s dream of reconstructing the Dundee United team of 2014 is on track as United have agreed terms for the sale of striker Nadir Ciftci, who is set to join Stuart Armstrong and Gary MacKay-Steven in green and white hoops.

United are feeling sore at losing three players to a rival but it could be argued this deal is a positive result for them.  They are no different than Celtic in needing to acquire good players who will enhance their team and generate transfer fees when they leave.

Armstrong and Mackay-Steven gave Celtic a timely boost when they arrived in the team in February.  If Ciftci adapts as quickly he’ll do well.

Signing a backup goalkeeper is a tricky call.  Do you blow a large slice of budget on a genuine contender for the goalkeeper’s jersey, or perhaps promote the next teenage David Marshall?  Both are viable calls.  If we sign Logan Bailly (29) for a fee from Belgian club Leuven the expectation at Lennoxtown is that he will push Craig Gordon.

That would leave us with competition across the field, apart from the left back slot…..

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  1. WeefratheTim on

    papajoe55

     

     

    Mega apoligies for the late response to your lovely post. Thank you for you support, but you will find your response to me will cause nothing but heartache and abuse from a certain section on the blog. Which is why I stay away and hide in a cupboard after posting on here. :-)))

     

     

    Weefra HH praying to Wee Oscar.

  2. Clogher

     

    Played seapoint and skerries royal Dublin portmarnock and links the island laytown ardee Dundalk to name just a few. If my health is good I will try to come over I love it

  3. Weefra

     

    Thanks keep the chin up

     

    I will not respond to wind up merchants I will ignore them

  4. TheOriginalSadiesBhoy on

    Gran Canaria must be near the Bermuda Triangle. Most of my posts have disappeared while others have appeared in triplicate. Goodnight to all Celtic supporters!

  5. la quince brigada

     

     

    and

     

     

    the

     

     

    la quinta brigada

     

     

    are very different tings

     

     

    spliters

  6. Wits

     

    Thanks for that my pal married the receptionists sister from the hotel we stayed at but the old memory is bad, hope you all have a great time next Easter.

  7. clogher celt on

    Papajoe,

     

     

    You must be a good golfer. I hope you can make it over. I know a few lads that caddy at Seapoint and Baltray, if you come over.

     

     

    Clogher

  8. Clogher

     

    I used to come over at least once a year for weeks golf for twenty five years but not played for five, we played the east coast classic ran by a guy called Eugene corrigan out of Laytown and Bettystown if any of you know him give him my regards. You and Almore have to be congratulated on all the work organising Easter get together .

  9. mike in toronto on

    travellerbhoy

     

     

    enjoyed that. always good to hear something new. thanks.

  10. Travellerbhoy on

    mike in toronto

     

     

    Hi bhud

     

    Read your knowledgable posts every time I’m on.

     

    And also with your life with your lucky missus(what, she’s married to a Tim ?ed)

     

    And your culinary skills

     

    And your music tips

     

    You sound like my type o ghuy

     

    And the clincher

     

    Seeing as your a lawyer

     

    You can get me oot o the cells

     

    :-)

  11. Eleven players of Celtic Football Club did more in 90 minutes at Hampden Park on Saturday for the good of football than officialdom, in whose hands the destiny of the game lies, has done in years and years. For with a display of such granduer as has rarely graced the great vast ground, they proved conclusively the value of concentration on a discipline and on the arts and crafts of the game, to the exclusion of the so-called power play which has indeed been a disfiguring weakness in the sport but which has frequently been accredited through the international honours to the “strong”-men.

     

     

    Briliant Fernie

     

     

    So devastating and effect had Fernie, the forward turned wing half, on Rangers, who before the rout on Saturday were still considered as difficult opposition as could be found in the length and breadth of the football land, that the Scottish international selectors must surely now be considering whether they should destroy forthwith the impression that certain players are indispensible for future internationals and build their sides around this wonderful footballer who achieves his purpose without the merest suggestion of relying on physique and who suffers the crude, unfair attempts of opponents to stop him without a thought for retaliation.

     

     

    Though Rangers Football Club may not immediately be in the mood to agree they surely cannot in the near future but to decide to change their policy on the field. I am not one who is going to charge their players of Saturday with the ultimate responsibility for the club’s humiliation, badly as most of them performed. The culprits are those who have, encouraged by results at the expense of method, not discouraged the ‘he-man’ type of game that has become typical of the side in recent years.

     

     

    I have seen Celtic teams in years gone by no better disciplined and no better equipped for their task from the point of skill than the present Rangers, but Celtic management have long since realised that constructive football will in the end receive the greater reward.

     

     

    Other McPhail

     

     

    Not since their brilliant Coronation Cup days at Hampden have Celtic played football of such quality. One recalls that in the 1953 triumph, a slightly corpulent John McPhail played havoc with Arsenal, Manchester United and Hibernian through masterly control and passing of the ball; now the younger, slimmer, Billy McPhail has joined Fernie, Tully, and company in the bewildering of Rangers by the same admirable methods.

     

    Valentine, not long ago a commanding figure on this same ground, was a forlorn, bewitched centre half on Saturday, repeatedly beaten in the air and on the ground in a variety of ways and the disintegration of Rangers defence undoubtedly stemmed from McPhails mastery. But it did not begin with Valentines plight. Celtic reintroduced Mochan to outside left and that player seized his opportunity as if it were his last. His pace and penetrative dribbling and apparently new found zest for the game had Shearer in a dreadful dither almost from the first kick of the ball. So Shearer decided to test Mochan’s physical strength and straightaway was decisively beaten in that respect too. Thereafter McColl was so busily engaged as an extra right back that great gaps appeared on that side of the field.

     

     

    In the first twenty minutes Celtic might have scored at least four goals and indeed were inordinately unlucky not to score at least two when first Collins and then Tully hit the wood around Niven. Rangers first scoring effort was Murray’s in the 20th minute, but it was blocked by Evans, throughout a centre half of absolute competence.

     

     

    Three minutes later McPhail headed down to Wilson and the inside left, without waiting for the ball to touch the ground, bulged the back of the net from 12 yards. Before Mochan scored Celtic’s second the frantic leap of Nevin and again the crossbar stopped another 30 yard free kick driven with such power by Collins as a stranger would not associate with one of his stature.

     

     

    Fierce Shot,

     

     

    Mochan’s goal in the final minute of the half ended fittingly superb play by McPhail, who after engaging in a heading movement with Wilson, lofted the ball over Shearer to the galloping outside left, Shearer went full length in a desperate attempt to tackle and McColl was also stretched on the ground. Mochan cut in and from near the touchline hurtled his shot into the far corner of the net.

     

     

    Rangers began the second half with the wind in their favour and with the sun in the eyes of the Celtic defenders but alarmingly for their followers, with Murray a knee bandaged at outside left. Simpson at centre forward and Scott and Hubbarb forming the right wing. Murray, be it noted, had injured himself trying to tackle Evans from behind and been penalised for his pains.

     

     

    Soon Fernie was travelling half the length of the field again and running his opponents into the ground and it was a demoralised defence who lost the third goal, headed by McPhail when Collins crossed. Five minutes later Simpson with an exhilarating dive and header scored from McColls cross, it was noticeable that that was the first chance permitted by Evans, who minutes earlier had been injured. Of that injury more will follow.

     

     

    Name Taken

     

     

    Baird soon afterwards had his name taken by the referee who apparently detected and infringement committed against Wilson, not obvious from the press box, and in the final 23 minutes McPhail (now toying with Valentine) Mochan, McPhail again, and Fernie from a penalty kick completed the humiliation.

     

     

    During that period, Nevin, Shearer and Valentine were so panic-stricken that any one of them might have joined the list of Celtic Goal scorers.

     

     

    The advantage of the tall goalkeeper over the short was never more clear than in this match. Beattie, whose chief worry was the harassing of opponents – I cannot recall a Celtic player making contact with Niven – gave his fellow-defenders confidence with perfect handling and timing of his interceptions. Donnelly continues to make a reputation ad the most promising back in Scotland, and Fallon again reduced the ill-supported Scott to a haplass young man, prominent after the firt 10 minutes only for unsuccessful attempts to provoke his stronger, wiser opponent.

     

     

    Never have I seen a Rangers so outclassed in half-back play, Fernie, Evans and Peacock were each in his own distinguished way tremendous players in everything but brawn and bulk.

     

     

    Tullys Feat

     

     

    No one Celt, however, but did not contribute handsomely to the team’s glorious day. The effect of the now restrained but clever as ever Tully should not be minimised. Perhaps only Fernie of all football players in Scotland could have emulated Tully’s first half feat of ball manipulation which enabled him to outwit Baird, Davis, Valentine and Caldow. Then, as his team-mates poised themselves for the chip back from the goal line, Tully struck like lightning with his right foot and the ball cannoned off the very edge of the near post, passed between Nevin and the goal line, and out of play beyond the far post. The goal of the century had been within a fraction of an inch of achievement.

     

     

    I have mentioned the injury to Evans. It occurred when the score was 3 – 0 and Baird was leading up to his caution. Baird had been admonished earlier for his treatment of Fernie, but when he brought down Evans after the centre half had dribbled round him the whole Celtic team stopped playing. Astonishingly Mr. Mowat waved the game on – one wonders if he had become obsessed with the use of the advantage rule and in a moment of aberration given the advantage to the offender – and Beattie had to make his save of the day as Murray promptly accepted the gift of a scoring chance.

     

     

    That was Mr. Mowat’s one mistake and he can be pardoned that in view of his excellent refereeing. Without a referee of his power of control we would almost certainly not have seen Celtic’s superb football.

     

     

    Written by Cyril Horne – The Glasgow Herald Oct. 21st. 1957

  12. Travellerbhoy on

    kitalba

     

    Absolutely stunning

     

    Oh Hamden in the sun

     

    Every day

     

    Hail hail

  13. CQN not accepting my posts.

     

    Now I don’t blame it, but it indicates either

     

    I am no longer in the clique

     

    Or

     

    The guffometer has been left on for the moon howlers.

  14. jamesgang

     

    23:49 on

     

    7 July, 2015…

     

     

    Jamesgang…..outstanding post. I appreciate your realistic take on our situation.

  15. mike in toronto on

    Travellerbhoy

     

     

    Cheers. I enjoy your posts as well.

     

     

    And Always happy to bail a fellow Celt out … Just remember the time difference if you are calling … if you think the judges are tough, try waking KT up early

     

     

    off to take the dog for her evening walk.

     

     

    Hail hail

  16. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    kitalba

     

    02:38 on

     

    8 July, 2015

     

     

    Cyril Horne

     

    Legendary journalist who told it as he saw it,unintimidated by the “peepel” on the terraces or in the Board rooms.

     

    A hero of my uncle who lived close to Hampden.

     

    As my older brother and I waited for him to arrive back from the game,we could hear his joyful laughter long before he came into view.

  17. Kitalba @ 02:36

     

    Great article.

     

    Will send me to bed with a big smile on my face.

     

    I remember hearing the score when we were out playing in the street.

     

    No one believed it and I promptly disappeared into my granny’s to check the score on the Scottish Home Service 5pm football report.

  18. So Doncaster wants a reorg. Again.

     

    His previous attempt to avoid Armageddon was simply to ensure the team formerly known as Rangers were given a franchise to be permanent members of the top tier.

     

    So the need for change mantra is being chanted in the corridors of power.

     

    Should we be suspicious of his motives?

     

    Of course not, he is doing it for the good of the game to prevent Armageddon.

     

    (Excuse me while I extract my tongue from my cheek.)

     

    Summer football, mid winter break, relief for teams participating in UEFa games are all being put forward as ways to improve the football experience.

     

    The elephant in the room is the reincarnation of the team from Govan.

     

    The rule bending, secret agreements, arm twisting, bribery and threats of catastrophe have all been unsuccessful and a gentler approach is being made.

     

    Neil, you can’t polish a turd. No matter what you do, when you peel off the sheen it will still stink.

     

    No criticism of a suggestion should go without a constructive alternative. So here are mine.

     

    1. Resign Mr Doncaster. If you think the game is worse now than when you were appointed do the manly thing, acknowledge your multiple failures and GO. Maybe we can then get a decent TV deal which forces Sky to pay a proportionate amount reflecting the number of Scottish subscribers to Sky Sports.

     

    2. Clean out the incompetent corrupt mess at the SFA especially with the referees.

     

    3. RETAIN the current 12 team top tier.

     

    4. RETAIN the current playoff games.

     

    5. Restrict the number of games NOT played at 3PM Saturday.

     

    6. Encourage a study to introduce safe standing at all premiere league clubs.

     

    And finally

     

    Legislate that all the other teams in the SPFL accept the first bid Peter makes for a player.

  19. Travellerbhoy on

    Thanks ghuys

     

    I’ve been censored in a reply to Mike in Toronto

     

    There was nothing inappropriate that I can recall

     

    I’ve been on this site for a few year

     

    And I haven’t been censored

     

    Once because I mentioned sevco in Manchester

     

    I’ve bared my soul

     

    A few times

     

    And a few more

     

    To bare

     

    God willing

     

    Thanks for everything.

     

    You are life in me

     

    Celtic always

     

    Hail HIl

  20. macjay @ 03:26

     

    I remember spreading the Sunday papers out on the floor to see the photo spread from the game.

     

    What stuck with me was a picture of Big Jock kneeing a clearance.

     

    I’d never seen that before and you can believe this 7 year old was out practicing my kneeing skills at every opportunity.

  21. 67Heaven .. CHALLENGING THE LIE ..I am wee Oscar...... Ipox belongs to the creditors on

    Could Greece not just liquidate and become a new Country, with the same name and history …..but not pay the creditors ?

  22. As for some youths not making it at all football clubs To me it seems there are a lot of them from middle class backgrounds

     

    Back in the day a lot of good football players were from a ordinary family. Hate that term Working Class .played on a bit of spare ground.from early morning to late at night.in the summer.but the way the structure is set now

     

    Familys on low wages can’t afford to send there kids to these football. centre’s. so the outcome for them is isn’t so good to play for a provisional club.a working mans game my Archie.

  23. Just to prove there is no such thing as a poor goal against the team formerly known as Rangers,

     

    Here’s a treat for the early risers

     

    All the Celric goals against the dead team from the 00s.

     

    I hope,you all enjoy it as much as I did.

     

    http://youtu.be/xBG5BO0zDLw

     

    Good morning. Bedtime beckons.

  24. A wee C&P from KDS:

     

     

    Some notes on Celtic’s founders that appeared in Issue 2 of the Welcome to Paradise fanzine:

     

     

    John Glass

     

     

    His parents were from Donegal and he ran a building firm in the East End with his brother Peter. Glass was a consummate politician, referred to by John McLaughlin as ‘the originator and motivator’ of Celtic. He made things happen. His powers of persuasion were renowned and it was he, more than anyone, who ensured that Celtic signed up the best Irish players of the day to his cause. Willie Maley said of him “The personality of John Glass in those days was the cause of many lads joining the Celts. He was a great Irishman, ever ready to stand up for his rights, and later did much politically for the cause so dear to him.” Not short in cunning when required, Glass was known to ‘kidnap’ players from other teams under cover of darkness to ensure they’d turn out for the Celts – like the trip to Carfin from where Jerry Reynolds was ‘secured’. Has been vilified by Hibernian fans for his role in persuading almost half their team to join the new Irish outfit in Glasgow. He served his Club in all major capacities until his death in 1906 within a few days of the great Irish patriot, and his political associate, Michael Davitt – Celtic’s first patron.

     

     

     

     

    Dr. John Conway

     

     

    This East End doctor was the man who kicked the first ball at Celtic Park in front of a crowd of 5000. A leading member of the Irish community in Glasgow, his father was a successful grocer and John excelled as a pupil at St. Mungo’s School and latterly in his medical studies at Glasgow University (at a time when very few RCs studied at this seat of learning). Although admitted to join the Royal College of Surgeons he returned to work and live in the East End as a community doctor, helping to fight the battle against disease and poverty in one of the most underprivileged areas in Europe at the time. When Hibernian were lauded by their Glasgow-based fans at St Mary’s Hall after their Scottish Cup triumph in 1887, it was Dr. Conway who delivered the address in their honour. He was there when Celtic were officially launched in the same hall some months later, he was there at the first AGM and was Celtic’s first Honorary President. A staunch advocate of the club’s charitable foundations he lost his place on the committee after challenging the introduction of wages for club officials and the changing emphasis away from donations to Brother Walfrid’s Poor Children’s Dinner Tables. Sadly, when he died the club failed to make any official acknowledgement of his passing – a terrible shame given his important role in taking the name of Celtic into the hearts of Glasgow’s East Enders.

     

     

     

     

    John H McLaughlin

     

     

    Another whose roots were in Donegal he was a prize-winning pupil at St. Aloysius and Stonyhurst Schools but abandoned plans to go to university and worked instead as a clerk in Bridgeton. Musically minded he played the organ at mass at St. Mary’s, that hotbed of Celtic activity in the Calton (and later played piano with the Rangers Glee Club!). Aged 25 when Celtic were founded and with no prior knowledge of football, he became one of the leading advocates of professionalism in Scottish football and an expert legislator. Using his political acumen McLaughlin helped pave the way for the creation of the Scottish Football League and official, rather than under-the-table, wages for players – which helped put Celtic immediately at the forefront of Scottish football and cast a long shadow over their early rivals, Queen’s Park. He was virtually unique among the Celtic pioneers in having no public involvement or profile in Irish political affairs (at the time of the Boer War he was a vocal supporter of the British, very much out of step with others on the Celtic Board; moves were made to have him unseated, which failed). Despite that he led the charge against Celtic’s original landlord in 1891 who attempted to impose a massive increase in rent for the first Celtic Park when he said ‘Being an Irish club it is but natural that we should should have a greedy landlord.’ He was Chairman of Celtic for 12 years from 1897.

     

     

     

    Pat Welsh

     

     

    In 1867 Pat Welsh was a young Fenian activist looking to escape capture from the British by escaping through Dublin docks. At the Pigeon House Fort on the Liffey he was discovered by a Sergeant Maley, an Irishman in the British Army. Welsh promised the soldier that if he was allowed to escape to Scotland he would give up his revolutionary activities – and was set free. In Glasgow he quickly got to work and established himself as a master tailor with premises in Buchanan Street who also became a leading light in St. Mary’s parish. He didn’t forget Sergeant Maley’s kindness and in 1870, when Willie and Tom’s father was retiring from the army, he accepted Welsh’s invitation to move to Glasgow. Initially the Maley family lived off the Gallowgate in St. Mary’s parish. 17 years on it was ‘Tailor’ Welsh who led Brother Walfrid and John Glass to the Maley family home in Argyll Place, Cathcart in December 1887 with a proposition to the eldest son Tom, an established player with Hibernian, to join in the new Celtic venture. On their way out Brother Walfrid, perhaps through some divine intervention, said to Willie Maley “Why don’t you come with him?” and a true personal Celtic connection was formed which endured for over half-a-century.

     

     

     

    Brother Dorotheus

     

     

    The Marist Headmaster of St Mary’s School in Abercromby Street, it was Dorotheus who first spotted the abilities of Walfrid when he was sent to teach in the school. Dorotheus supported and encouraged the Irishman’s various charitable schemes before Walfrid was given his own new school to manage, Sacred Heart in Bridgeton. When Walfrid started the Poor Children’s Dinner Table in Sacred Heart, Dorotheus took up the idea and was soon providing dinners for over a thousand children per week in the Calton. He assisted Walfrid in bringing the biggest teams in Scotland to play challenge matches in Bridgeton with all proceeds going to the Dinner Tables. These experiences, combined with the Scottish Cup success of Hibernian, persuaded the two Marists of the potential benefits in starting up a club of their own to take advantage of the football craze sweeping the nation and their community – and to provide regular sustenance for the most needy in their parishes. The role of Dorotheus in assisting Walfrid has often been overlooked.

     

     

     

    William McKillop

     

     

    Born in Ayrshire of Irish parents, McKillop was a member of the Irish National League’s Home Government Branch in Glasgow. From here he fell into the company of Glass, Walsh and others and became part of their challenge to get a new Irish team started. He had links with other parishes besides St. Mary’s, principally St. Andrew’s in the city centre. A successful licensed grocer McKillop and his brother John, also a Celtic Committee member, owned a chain of restaurants which became one of Glasgow’s biggest and eventually purchased the Grosvenor Hotel in Glasgow’s west end. McKillop wasn’t finished there – he went on to become the nationalist MP for North Sligo in 1900 and then South Armagh 8 years later. Throughout his business and political careers McKillop remained active and committed to the Celtic cause and promoted it in Scotland, Ireland and beyond.

     

     

     

    Joseph Shaugnessy

     

     

    One of two lawyers involved in the establishment of the Celtic club, it was Shaughnessy who proposed that Michael Davitt be Celtic’s honorary patron at the club’s inaugural AGM on 21st June 1989 in the Mechanics Hall, Bridgeton. In 1887, Davitt’s visits to Scotland attracted great headlines including the Glasgow Observer’s ‘Davitt in Highlands – the Tribune of the Celtic Race’. Shaughnessy was an important ‘fixer’ for the new club, a Rutherglen councillor who knew his way around the corridors of local power to help get the team established. He was also involved in the Rutherglen St Vincent de Paul Conference and dealt with any legal issues which concerned the club. He was the main legal advisor to the nascent trade unions in Scotland and associate of John O’Hara, another Founding Father who was a trade union official. James Farrell joined the Shaugnessy law firm in the middle of the last century and the Celtic director maintained this link with Celtic’s founder up until the 1980s. The law firm is still in business.

     

     

     

     

    Tom Maley

     

     

    A young school teacher who had played for Partick Thistle, Third Lanark and Hibernian. A leading athlete and footballer who, alongwith James Kelly, had been identified by John Glass as an essential signing. Glass’ persuasive powers saw Maley and Kelly, two of the best known Scottish players of Irish stock, throw in their lot with the new Irish team. Tom Maley confirmed that he and his brother Willie chose the Celts because of the blarney of Brother Walfrid, Pat Welsh’s soft tones and the persuasive powers of John Glass. After a time in Glasgow as an industrial school headteacher he went on to become manager of Manchester City and won the FA Cup the same year Willie managed Celts to a Scottish Cup celebration. He remained involved in Celtic off the park and continually pushed the Committee and then Directors to maintain their support for the Poor Children’s Dinner Tables. For this he was ostracised like Dr. Conway, although Tom was never fully out of the picture. He was banned by the English FA for under the counter payments to Man City players, though this was ultimately overturned and he later became manager of Bradford Park Avenue. Turning his hand to journalism in between managerial jobs he maintained his interest in the internal workings at Celtic Park as a correspondent in the Glasgow Observer and even met up again with Brother Walfrid in England with the Celtic party at the end of a European tour. It was Tom who noted the final words recorded by the ageing Marist of the football club he established: ‘Well, well. Time has brought changes. Outside ourselves there are few left of the old brigade. I know none of these present players, but they are under the old colours and quartered in the dear old quarters and that suffices. Its good to see you all so well, and I feel younger with the meeting. Goodbye, God bless you.’

  25. 67heaven .. challenging the lie ..i am wee oscar…… ipox belongs to the creditors

     

     

    05:20 on 8 July, 2015

     

     

    Just woke up to a dreich morning, but that’s fair cheered me. Hope to use it at work later!

  26. blantyretim is praying for the Knox family on

    I dislike this lets pick 3 teams stuff

     

     

    Reminds me of the orcs in their cheating days when one of the rags posted similar

     

    No triumphalism from me thanks

  27. Good morning friends and welcome to Washout Wednesday in ole EK. Grey, dreich, and far from roastin’.

  28. I tink Ciftci will do well – just a question of how much time on the field he is given. cannot believe the United support ably supported by MSM regarding the third amigo. when DU took Barry Douglas, Andy Robertson Aidan Connolly and recently Spittal from Queens Park they did so on the cheap or tried to pay as little as possible – where was the MSM all over this?