So how about this scenario, Celtic Youths are trailing in their league with 10 games to go when they register three new players, but someone’s ‘at it’. The players are all over-age but the date of birth on their registration forms have been incorrectly completed, so the players are registered and become eligible to play the remaining games. Celtic Youths win their remaining games and win the league.
At the end of the season the deception is uncovered. The people responsible for filling the forms out incorrectly are criticised but one is president of the Scottish Football Association, who give evidence to an inquiry that as the Association registered the players, the results must stand.
Time to “draw a line under it” is the line from the SFA chief executive, hoping with all his might that no one mentions the Scottish Youth Cup games the players also played in, which would invoke a parallel punishment to the one recently imposed on Spartans Youths for exactly the same offence in the same competition. The chief exec also dismisses attempts to call those criticised by the inquiry to account as scapegoating.
Ridiculous? Of course, but this is what we’ve just experienced, with another club, of course.
Challenging the verdict, if possible, is a worthwhile endeavour but it will only treat one symptom of the many issues facing Scottish Premier League clubs, who could be forgiven for losing the will to compete within the rules. Fans of several SPL clubs now believe their best interests are served by playing in an environment beyond Scotland – for a whole range of reasons.
We have to work with fans of other clubs to make the case for the SPL, as a unit, to leave Scottish football (I see cross-club initiatives are already underway).
On a completely unrelated question, if you had £21m in the bank late last year, and you were burning cash at £1m per month, which year would you run out of money?
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Doc
Ye I think we all know someone like that!
HT, that’s a bit unfair on the Hun on twitter, he’s more of a type of lad who would be listened to here, fair and open minded bloke, a rare thing. Don’t think he follows Sevco now, he was genuinely lost as to what he was going to do and he hasn’t been on for ages.
jonny the tim
same mother company so basically OldFirm sponsorship still in place. No reason to give up your favourite tipple.
Tennents, Magners, Dry Blackthorne all the same group!!!
MWD
sipsini, I hadn’t factored that in but yes of course you are correct, £33,000 seems a pittance. Chances are they deducted “Expenses” from whatever they got. I’d love Dundee United to issue a Statement giving the full amount paid over.
Anyhow thats me done for the night God Bless All particularly Miki 67. About a half hour ago, I put the lap top down, closed my eyes and said my prayers. Included you miki, best of luck mate.
Sipsini, no, he was an ok lad, just very misguided, we had a fair few debates, his knuckles didn’t reach the ground.
Doc
Yep and I think we all know one like that too ;-)
Stephbhoy. Not sure we can do anything about it alone. It needs to be spl to appeal.
Doc
Where do I search….in the garage ? seriously no idea
HT, what I said was unfair on the old Hun, not what you said. Loads have started following golf and rugby. They don’t want to talk about football at all now.
67heaven … i am neil lennon..!!.. ibrox belongs to the creditors
23:37 on 4 March, 2013
Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Huns in the work seem confident of it.
Although thems do say why should we bale yous out.
Scotlands shame hope they die again.
TET, there will be an wee picture of a spyglass, magnifying glass, click that, then type in the thing you are searching for.
Email me your user name, I’ll follow you, that would make it easier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP_DfhCdSso&playnext=1&list=PL15BF6484EC7DCFAA&feature=results_main
Saltires…..
What about yee mucker? Let us know when you reach Turin and are “outwith” the stadium.
Memories of our Honved, Budapest trip 1988 now flooding back. Remember Alan Rough was in goals and he messed up at their free kick which led to only goal!
Watch it here…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b19CYKqlhI
Doc.
That was funny mate.
Nite from me. Hail Hail.
Doc
Now please don’t get annoyed, but pray where will I find the spyglass, if not in the garage, where ???
HH
TET
If you go to search and type in @hamiltontim88 you can follow me and I’ll help you from there….ya stoopit oul bugger ;-)
Doc and Sipsini,, maybe that’s why they want to sign Jon Daly, so they can talk about golf!
HH
Bhoys
Off to London at the weekend with Mrs K and some fellow Tims and their spouses, staying in Mayfair and looking for somewhere to watch the game. I notice it is a 3pm ko, any suggestions?
Ok, think I have a starting handle on things >}}}}
Morning time, young wan will be here, so I can ask her as much as I want. no limits to the questions I can ask her.
HH
I have just twigged I have to register…..oh dear……if brains were chocolate, I couldn’t fill a smartie…..
HH
Oh well! Must be just me that is surprised by NO SPL APPEAL
Can someone tell me when Stephen Thomson rejoined the SPL board?
MWD
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Forget when he got back on the board, when did he become spokesperson?
According to the accounts there is £200,000 payed in salaries from the bust SPL budget, a pay rise of 16.9% last year and big Dungcaster does not even open his mouth!!
Thompson has been blamed for plenty you would have thought he would have kept his mouth shut.
jonny the tim
23:58 on 4 March, 2013
You watch the road.
Any joy on mursia with the best soupmaker in the chateau.
Matchsticks in the eyes are bending nite Jon.hh
HT, aye, plenty rugby fans down Govan way now.
Sipsini, Ta, half way to being a wit here!
Lhads you are a tonic.
Hard couple of days, but a chat on here, magic.
Appointment in the morning to register my buddies death.
He died exactly three months after our other mate, which was sad, but Alex was 74, he had lived a full life.
Some good ghuys on here chatted, consoled and helped me through.
Yesterday my pal, Doug died at 50. That’s just tragic.
I hadn’t the heart to mention it here yesterday, but having a chat with a couple of friends on here yesterday and that together with today was a tonic, it really was.
Cheers Bhoys. Thank you all.
I give you one lesson Douglas gave me.
Time, it’s the only thing we all have, that’s a gift, if you give someone your time, then you have given them all you can.
I’ll be fine, I have family around, but I wanted to mark his passing.
I also have good buddies on CQN.
TET, registering is a trick;-) email me when you have.
Chuckles & Swally baffle the creditors:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=relmfu&v=w1_RGU_kxKg
Doc
Jeez mhan, so sorry to hear about your amigo.
HH
YNWA
MWD, he is back on the board, this stinks:
By STEPHEN HALLIDAY
Published on Tuesday 5 March 2013 00:00
DUNDEE United chairman Stephen Thompson has revealed the Scottish Premier League will not appeal against Lord Nimmo Smith’s ruling on Rangers’ failure to disclose side-letter payments to players through their Employee Benefit Trust scheme.
The Independent Commission set up by the SPL to assess the case against Rangers found the Ibrox club guilty, imposing a fine of £250,000, but also decided they gained no unfair sporting advantage. It removed the threat of Rangers being stripped of the five SPL titles they won in the period under investigation.
Celtic have publicly expressed their surprise at the report’s findings which the SPL are entitled to contest in an appeal which would be heard by the Scottish Football Association. But after an SPL meeting at Hampden yesterday, which Thompson attended alongside Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell, it became clear Lord Nimmo Smith’s verdict will not be challenged.
“The decision has been made and as far as I’m concerned, that’s it now,” said SPL director Thompson. “It’s done and we move on. I was on the board of the SPL when we decided to go with the Independent Commission and I’m now back on the board. It was an Independent Commission and that was the route we decided was right, independent from the board.
“I’d like to draw a line under it and move on for the sake of Scottish football. There is no doubt the last year or so has damaged the image of the game and it’s time to move on, for the sake of the game from the top down.”
The SPL’s controversial 12-12-18 league reconstruction plan was top of the agenda at yesterday’s meeting and Thompson insists it can still be put in place for the start of next season. He does not believe the desire of many Scottish Football League clubs for a 12-12-10-10 set-up instead will hinder the timescale.
“It can be done and there is certainly a willingness from everyone to get there,” claimed Thompson. “We’re working very hard to get it over the line, but a lot of discussions still need to take place. I’ve heard in the last couple of days they want 10-10 rather than an 18, but I don’t think that’s going to be a stumbling block at all. Most people would like to try and get it over the line for next season.
“It’s the first time since I’ve been involved that we’ve had all 12 clubs agreed. Okay, a few of them are not 100 per cent behind it yet and have queries, but generally all 12 have agreed to take it to the next stage which is what we are doing now. It has been knocked and everyone gets caught up in the numbers game, but there are a lot of positive things about it – going to one league body, redistribution of funds and the pyramid system. There’s no perfect solution but it’s a step forward.
“If it doesn’t go through, it will be many years before something else is on the table again. I suppose if you want to look at it purely from your own club’s point of view, then most clubs would probably vote against it but we’re all trying to take off our club hats and look for the greater good of the game.
“It certainly spreads the wealth down through the leagues, there is a lot coming from the top six clubs and it certainly supports the league below. I don’t think the middle eight will be very exciting for an owner or chairman, but it will be from a fans’ point of view.”
The important bit
Celtic have publicly expressed their surprise at the report’s findings which the SPL are entitled to contest in an appeal which would be heard by the Scottish Football Association. But after an SPL meeting at Hampden yesterday, which Thompson attended alongside Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell, it became clear Lord Nimmo Smith’s verdict will not be challenged.
irish songs we learned at school : if only
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjSQ14P4OP8
TET, Cheers mate, tough couple of days, but this blog really is a tonic, wasn’t up to talking about it yesterday,really raw, but had a chat about the Tic, that was great, distracted me, helped to be honest. Just started writing and that came out.
Douglas was a football fan, but one of few who just like the game, never a supporter of a team other than Scotland.
The benefits system is trying to **** me up. Remeber, Ian Duncan Smith wants me dead.
Wel, his dearest wish is coming true, but he wants to make sure I don’t get what I’m entitled to until after I’m dead.
This is the reality of 2013 in the UKplc.
I have terminal lung cancer because of s*** they sold me and taxed me on.
Now they want me to die whimpering, like a dog.
No way.
My MP is a right wing Tory Pal (Conor Burns)…….I wish he would, so he’s no help. The CAB are funded by the govt. Jesus.
Shelter have become useless, spineless, and in cahoots with the councils.
The councils say it’s not their fault I’ve got cancer.
I think I’ll get my dole and buy a gun.
I’ve had more than enough of this fascist governement.
Think I’ll go quietly?
Aye. Right ye are.
In yet another lifetime I was a social security activist and member of the miner’s support group.
I can kick back just as hard.
HH!
Nite Timland
Things to do sooner that I thought.
Take care and god bless.
HH
KTF
A wee suggestion for ma new wee dugs name would be appreciated, she is very small, white, a wee bit shaggy, and her name must be in keeping with the other five.
They are called Eireann, Saoirse, Devlin, Ira, and Murphy, so, along the same lines, the wife has not come up so far………….
Doc,
Thoughts and prayers with you and your mates family. Far too young to be taken away, glad he understood the value of our time on this earth.
God bless.
miki67.
short comment , but were stronger now, you showed us how,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdcxGlBZLuc
estorilbhoy
Appreciated mate.
Night CQN.
Miki
Don’t want to bother you, but my Ma was given 3 to 6 months, we asked her to try Essiac, she did ,and she got more than three years, pain free btw.
It will cost you feck all, about a pound a week, please look at it.
HH
YNWA
nohunshere@hotmail.com
No reason to bullshit you mi amigo, can’t do any harm, can it.
TET, how about naming your wee dug Provolina ;-) similar to the new Kia. Small and fast.
TET
how about Darby (O’Gill)
small, white and a bit shaggy (well ok , it was only a bit of a beard)