So how about this scenario, Celtic Youths are trailing in their league with 10 games to go when they register three new players, but someone’s ‘at it’. The players are all over-age but the date of birth on their registration forms have been incorrectly completed, so the players are registered and become eligible to play the remaining games. Celtic Youths win their remaining games and win the league.
At the end of the season the deception is uncovered. The people responsible for filling the forms out incorrectly are criticised but one is president of the Scottish Football Association, who give evidence to an inquiry that as the Association registered the players, the results must stand.
Time to “draw a line under it” is the line from the SFA chief executive, hoping with all his might that no one mentions the Scottish Youth Cup games the players also played in, which would invoke a parallel punishment to the one recently imposed on Spartans Youths for exactly the same offence in the same competition. The chief exec also dismisses attempts to call those criticised by the inquiry to account as scapegoating.
Ridiculous? Of course, but this is what we’ve just experienced, with another club, of course.
Challenging the verdict, if possible, is a worthwhile endeavour but it will only treat one symptom of the many issues facing Scottish Premier League clubs, who could be forgiven for losing the will to compete within the rules. Fans of several SPL clubs now believe their best interests are served by playing in an environment beyond Scotland – for a whole range of reasons.
We have to work with fans of other clubs to make the case for the SPL, as a unit, to leave Scottish football (I see cross-club initiatives are already underway).
On a completely unrelated question, if you had £21m in the bank late last year, and you were burning cash at £1m per month, which year would you run out of money?
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Like many here I am at a loss in what I can do to change this situation
I’ve cancelled ESPN and SKY and told them why
I was a season ticket holder for many years even whilst. I lived abroad
Now due to work and family I don’t get to many games but we buy the shirts DVDs etc etc and have Celtic. In our hearts …. I remain to be convinced the same of some in charge of our club
But my son and daughters deserve the pleasure of supporting Celtic as do their kids etc and this is my worry because even they are asking how this can be allowed to happen and questioning the ” point of it all”
If we don’t cut the head from the serpent now I fear it may too late to do it later
Hail hail
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
Aye the big yellow thing has been in the sky since Sunday going up to an exotic 11 here the day, I like the climate generally in Schweiz but this winter was a long dark one either that or I’m getting old!!
How long have you been in Germany?
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
Kickin’ what about that pub Tooting Tim goes to in Camden, The Sheephaven Bay, not that far from Mayfair to Camden…
Morning all from a very cold but bright Bowness-on-Windermere, off to buy a all day boat ticket and just chill out in the sun.
With a few beers of course :-)
Difficult to leave here isn`t it? 0:-)
Firstly, TET sums it up superbly (9.47) then Kev Jungle writes a farly reasonable post (9.49) and I feel the neeed to mention both !
Definitely “aff oot ” noo!
JJ
Jungle Jim 9.53 thanks for the reply like you I am hoping some solution can be found to which I will tag onto . good luck with the training
HAIL HAIL WEE OSCAR AND CELTIC
big nan
09:51 on 5 March, 2013
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Firstly, let me say I always pay attention to your posts. Along with Auldheid, TBB, Gordon J and Ernie Lynch – to name but a few of many – I enjoy your posts and your take on thIngs as it tends to be original and considered.
My question in response to your last posting is this….
What could Celtic do to retain your support should we reach the final?
Cheers Starry
Billy Elliot n Friday
Game on Saturday afternoon
St Patricks dance in Camden Irish Centre at night
Whits no tae like!
kikinthenakas
Sounds like a top weekend, looks like I will be home after Easter and hope to catch up with you again Mate..
Charles Green says he will ban supporters for life if they are caught signing sectarian songs around Ibrox.
Does this apply to players, officials and directors as well?
Meanwhile McCoist wants a list of Offensive songs named, he doesn’t know what sectarian means, this can be used by any fan as a get out cause.
All we can do is continue to speak up against the myths and lies. Rangers died, owing millions. Rangers cheated, owing millions. The SFA colluded, ignoring millions.
They would dearly love to do so again with Sevco. But we have to keep up the bampottery so that they are unable to. Then, when the cash runs out, Sevco will be helpless. We have to hope. We have to believe. But that doesn’t mean being passive about it.
If you see a lie, call it a lie. If you see cheating, shout about it. We are bampots. This is what we do.
By the way, Tallybhoy says no but the BBC’s weather forecasts for Milan these past couple of days have been spot-on. Rain is to start falling here about 7 pm tonight and continue throughout tomorrow. In Turin, it will fall as snow, at least until tomorrow afternoon when it may turn to rain.
So do wrap up, Hoops.
kikinthenakas
09:53 on
5 March, 2013
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The game is not on the telly. You’ll have to find a pub that has Al Jazeera or equivalent. I am actually in Trowbridge this weekend and hope to watch the game in the Lamb. Last time I was there the landlord, good Tim, was using all sorts of TV feeds.
Good luck and Hail! Hail!
“Celtic trio Scott Brown, Mikael Lustig & Tony Watt haven’t travelled to Italy this morning. Charlie Mulgrew has though, which is good news, after he missed the previous three games for the Hoops.”
the game is up bhoys & ghirls
was in the process of a very long post and well?
then you get to the end of the line
enough is enough
sfa =corrupt to the core RCO and REGAN
spl=DONCASTER
CELTIC PLC= your silence is defening( 1 little statement)
look at thw way they dealt with the green brigade
can you spot the diffrence?
its all about the money
and helping 1 team
get sevco back to the top devision and the fools will bring the cash
roll up roll up the show must go on
THE STENCH FROM HAMPDUMP WILL LINGER FOR MANY MORE YEARS TO COME
jam67
Since the LNS whitewash I have been certain in my feelings that we will never get justice in a country run by people that belong to secret organisations and just this week I have found out that there are even more secrative break away sects that a hell of a lot of the judiciary and police belong to.This is not only a Scottish thing it is worldwide.
Now on a football front the only way we will have any success in railing against this is to fight the SFA, alot of whose members have been placed in their positions many years ago in order to keep the dominance of one club and one club only.
We have the power in our own hands and more importantly our pockets to do this. By we I mean every fan of every club outside of the chosen one should never put a penny piece into the SFA coffers. That means no attendance at SFA run cup matches no support for the national team, no merchandise buying of the national teams items.
I believe that by a solid response to this we will have a clear out of the rotten cabal that run our game and we can return to supporting the national team again.
Finally and once and for all can we all stop talking about walking away from our own clubs. This is the most ridiculous call of all by walking away you only harm ourselves and the other lot have won the final victory.
Auldheid
Last night (@22:55) over on TSFM, in response to a reported rumour that SPL clubs are ‘talking about leaving Scottish football en masse’, you said that ‘I was told from a very high source to “trust us”’.
Can you tell us a bit more about where that very high source
might be found (CFC, SPL, SFA, or all three)?
Even without knowing more about that source, however, I must also say that I find it very hard indeed to vest much confidence in anyone in a senior position in the game in Scotland; even at Celtic.
Although it may sound like splitting hairs, I’m not saying I don’t trust them: just that I don’t have confidence in them representing the views of fair-minded fans.
I would argue that, as fans of the beautiful game, our interests very firmly depend upon the principles of sporting integrity being seen to be applied and upheld by those in positions of authority; so transparency and accountability are required.
Even in these heady days of almost forensic internet scrutiny of matters that a mere 10 years ago would probably have been put to bed in a few of days, there remains scant evidence of such openness in our game, even from Celtic (although I recognise there MAY be timing issues for the current custodians of our club, as well it being doubtful that Celtic FC could do much without being part of a larger coalition of top clubs).
The well-paid executives and those with significant shareholdings in our clubs may not feel that their interests coincide with those of their customers.
If I’m correct, I fear that the game will be a bogey in Scotland, since the number of fans who will drift away from the game will most likely put the game into irreversible decline.
FF
KIKINTHENAKAS
THE MARQUIS OF GRANBY at Cambridge Circus if the refurb has been completed may be your best bet.
Check their website for details and call them to make sure.
Starry good to hear the sun is shining. I’ve been here since August 1999 and will probably be here for a couple of years more. I’m thinking of retiring in 2015 but unsure where I will finally settle.
Jungle Jim
09:53 on 5 March, 2013
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I agree about Ogilvie and also about not knowing how, to achieve his removal.
You see…what we are seeing here amongst the fans is a mirror image of the
chain of command at the club !!! imo
Celtic PLC is a – rudderless ship imo
When the chips are down – the board head for the hills.
In fact…they’ll probably be in cahoots wi chuckie working on a joint sponsorship
as we type.
Who in their right mind would pay in excess of £1.5k a year to be told oh…eh…the games
rigged to suit the huns but, you’ll joost need to make the best of it !!!
Sevco – Do what they do
SFA – Do what they do
Because…they all know that the Celtic Board are a rudderless ship and
the Celtic fans are wrapped in a cloak of apathy that even a stitch-up from
LNS…might not spark the much NEEDED Rebellion !!!! imo
HH
Evening all from a hot’n’sultry Adelaide.
It seems to me that the sevconians in suits are not even bothering to hide their contempt for everyone else in the game.
We should just resign from the game now as we’re just making up the numbers. What’s left to preserve for our children? A lovely warm seat at the back of the bus? Without any action or any form of fightback, we are complicit in the current shenanigans.
S
Smack the bams on the botty until they scream for more, much more, ***** treatment!
God, how I hate t’rankers.
googybhoy – if you are about I couldn’t find your email address so have emailed Celticrollercoaster and have asked him to pass it on.
hh
Well……we’ve got The Knights of Columbus…..time to set sail……get the blunderbusses out and shoot the rats.
Oops……it’s 2013…….not 1613.
But you know what I mean.
Jungle Jim
Aff oot – is a ghood place :o)))
Guess what…I’m going to join ye….
Off oot
kev jungle.there are defintutely 2 of yees.can we have the postS of the sensible wan only.PLEASE.
Torino .
Heavy rain earlier —- now stopped . .
More rain expected .
Temp @ 5 .
Forecast for tomorrow is heavy rain . Temp @ 6.
Another radio station /another pundit –
3 -5 -2.
Buffon
Peluso Marrone Bonucci
Isla Pogba Pirlo Giaccherini Asamoah
Vucinic Matri
For those who reckon it is only a matter of time and The Rangers will go bust, I have heard this now for three years.
The Rangers will be replaced by The The Rangers and still nothing will change, there will still be a team playing at The Sports Direct stadium in Blue with the same Anthems their fathers sang and their fathers before them.
Rangers – then
The Rangers – now
The The Rangers – forever
Pogmathonyahun aka Laird of the Smiles
I arrived here in ’99 as well, I’ll be looking to get back to work when my wee one goes to Kindergarten, Switzerland on one wage is a struggle to be honest, I think I still have one more country left in me probably Japan for a few years as my Mrs comes from the Tokyo area, I can’t see me ever returning to Scotland been away too long, Europe is great for kids…
HH
I’m not a betting mhan, but I trust the good old BBC weather and confidently predict that it will snow in Turin.
Off oot as well, going to take in some sunshine while I can.
Hail! Hail! PMTYH
tractorbhoy@10:08
‘We have the power in our own hands and more importantly our pockets to do this. By we I mean every fan of every club outside of the chosen one should never put a penny piece into the SFA coffers. That means no attendance at SFA run cup matches no support for the national team, no merchandise buying of the national teams items.’
Well said. My thoughts entirely. The TA have a big part to play in all of this. A boycott of Scotland’s remaining WC qualifiers would be of huge embarrassment to the SFA and questions would be asked from major sponsors William Hill, Sky etc.
Just dropped back in again to say….
FAVOURITE UNCLE
10:19 on 5 March, 2013
kev jungle.there are defintutely 2 of yees.can we have the postS of the sensible wan only.PLEASE.
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Aye – OK.
I’ll have a word wi him :o)))
Definitely – Off oot this time
Starry, quick one before I go. I will never regret bringing my kids to Germany, they were of different ages and were upset at the time but as kids do they adapted. As you say Europe is great for kids and also for us adults. The only thing I miss about Scotland is Celtic and seeing my mates on a regular basis.
What’s the world come to when Celtic fans are looking for the Tartan Army to fight their battles for them?
Back again….
Miki67
Doc-is Neil Lennon
Prayers n thoughts
Stay Strong
YNWA
Off oot
Boring shares post please move on – I think the support for the RFC shares may be running out now. c3% drop in SP despite buys v sells being 1898 v 267. Almost a complete reversal of the overall trend in terms of the buy/sell ratio.
Don’t know who would’ve bought after yesterdays results, but I’d suggest some ordinary folks are going to lose money after Mr McCoists ‘I bought shares for my kids’ statement.
tomtheleedstim
10:13 on
5 March, 2013
googybhoy – if you are about I couldn’t find your email address so have emailed Celticrollercoaster and have asked him to pass it on.
hh
Cheers
Blackburn is only 30 minutes up the motorway. Will come up and see you Bhoys off and may continue on up for Celtic match.
miki67
14:25 on
4 March, 2013
The Romans conquered the known world on porridge. Fact
Yes true but Roman porridge was made from wheat! Egyptian wheat,then no.1 in the world and according to the book I encountered,having a much higher protein content than the present.
No doubt on the far flung outskirts of their empire they had to resort to “when in Rome do as the Romans do” and on the “wall” got used to having their oats locally and regularly, in between times of being sprung upon by bands of marauding Picts off to (or returning from) the land of milk and honey for a bit of rape and plunder.
Best Wishes,
tusker