Last year we attempted to quantify the money other SPL clubs were denied by Rangers improperly registering football players – on the assumption that being found guilty of improperly registering football players was actually worthy of punishment.
Below is an excerpt of the article and figures:
Some of the losses were easier to calculate than others. For example, it was easy to calculate that when Rangers won the title in 2009 with improperly registered players, earning automatic qualification to the Champions League group stage, they denied Celtic £15m European earnings, plus £340k SPL prize money. Other losses are less clear, specifically when a club was denied a place in a qualifying round for the Champions League or Uefa Cup, which they may or may not have progressed from.
We have established three figures for each club in the SPL during the season just finished, to cover the period from 2000 to 2012:
Minimum loss:
The absolute minimum each club was denied from European and SPL prize money as a result of Rangers finishing above them with ineligible players.
Weighted loss:
The figure based on Scottish clubs gaining entry to Champions League/Europa League (Uefa Cup) group stages from 20% of their qualifying campaigns (which is slightly less than trend).
Maximum loss:
The maximum a club could have achieved if it qualified for the European group stage it was denied entry to.
Out estimates take no account of the subsequent effect money has on future years. For example, If Celtic earned an additional £15m from entering the Champions League group stage in 2009-10 their league challenge for that season would have been £15m stronger, and Rangers £15m weaker, potentially resulting in consequences in future years.
This multiplier effect would have benefited Celtic but it would be likely to have a greater effect on other clubs, some of whom would be denied the enormous percentage increase in budget automatic qualification to European group stages would have brought.
Hearts finished immediately behind Celtic and Rangers more often than any other club over the period and suffer the greatest potential losses, even more so than Celtic. Hibernian, Aberdeen, Dundee United and Motherwell also suffered significant losses.
Several clubs got nowhere near European football over the period, and some of the 11 spent only a few years in the SPL but each club lost over £1m.
Figures for each club are:
Hearts
Maximum: £72.3m
Weighted: £16.3m
Minimum: £6.2m
Celtic
Maximum: £46.7m
Weighted: £21.9m
Minimum: £17.4m
Hibernian
Maximum: £34.8m
Weighted: £8.4m
Minimum: £3.6m
Aberdeen
Maximum: £21.1m
Weighted: £5.5m
Minimum: £2.7m
Dundee United
Maximum: £20.8m
Weighted: £5.2m
Minimum: £2.4m
Motherwell
Maximum: £16.7m
Weighted: £4.4m
Minimum: £2.1m
Kilmarnock
Maximum: £5.1m
Weighted: £1.9m
Minimum: £1.3m
Dunfermline
Maximum: £3.4m
Weighted: £1.8m
Minimum: £1.5m
Inverness
Maximum: £1.3m
Weighted: £1.3m
Minimum: £1.3m
St Johnstone
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
St Mirren
Maximum: £1.1m
Weighted: £1.1m
Minimum: £1.1m
In the event Rangers fielded ineligible players during the period under consideration, which everyone apart from Neil Doncaster knows, and even he will be unable to deny next week, we know the following:
Rangers received a minimum of £40.9m which should have gone to the 11 other clubs, assuming each club lost all their European group stage qualifying campaigns. This calculation does not include earnings from clubs now in the Scottish Football League, such as Hamilton Accies or [then]Dundee.
If Scottish clubs progressed to the group stages of European competition on only 20% of their qualifying campaigns the loss would be £69.0m.
The figure for total potential losses if clubs successfully progressed to every European group stage is, as the figure for 100% failure, more illustrative than likely, but the maximum cost to the 11 SPL clubs is £224.6m.
You can read our calculations here. European income figures were sources from Uefa data.
The people who really matter in this entire debacle are those who buy tickets for Celtic Park, Pittodrie, Easter Road, Tynecastle, Tannadice, Fir Park and elsewhere. It is patently clear that the game in Scotland is failing fans and clubs alike. It is time for fans of SPL clubs to unite and move beyond the busted grip of the SFA.
Only SPL fans, working together, can ensure each of clubs has a viable future.
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craggy island gaa,
CONGRATULATIONS…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
looks like 3-5-2 forster matthews ambrose rogne wilson izzy forrest wanyama ledley stokes hooper
CELTIC (4-4-2) Forster; Matthews, Rogne, Wilson, Izaguirre; Forrest, Ambrose, Wanyama, Ledley; Hooper, Stokes
Subs: Zaluska, Samaras, Commons, Kayal, Miku
Hooper/Stokes up front at last.
4-0 Celtic!
craggy island gaa,
A heartfelt welcome to Wee Craggy.
Congratulations to yourself & the lady who did the tough bit.
jackie mac
11:54 on
2 March, 2013
Why are you saying “Celtic v Rangers” ………don’t you know it should be “Rangers v Celtic” ….
We don’t do ‘arithmetic’ protocol / progression in this sad childish little country…..hahahahaha
Can anyone recall Sir Minty denying the existence of side-letters during a TV interview in 2012? Interviewer may have been hunnite Jeff Randall from Sky.
Can anyone tell me if the UEFA financial fair conditions outline a priority in payment of debts ?
Will BDO prioritise the 250k fine due to the SFA or is it the SPL over the creditors ?
If BDO refuse will the SFA sue them like they are doing with Craig Whyte ?
If not why not ?
HH
Great article from Speirs.
Cheers guys,of to make a small investment
HH
Considering that Craig Whyte got fined from the SFA for misleading them why is Moonbeams not being fined for misleading them about the side letters ?
HH
craggy island gaa
May all his days be Blessed
Congrats to craggy island gaa brigade
” It is clear from Mr Odam’s evidence that Oldco’s failure to disclose the side letters was partly motivated by a wish not to risk prejudicing the tax advantages of the EBTs scheme “————-Lord Nimmo Smith..
Heidi Poon’s nose twitched and she had her doubts , the good Lord is much more direct.
There were no side letters … the BBC could not possibly have copies of side letters …
So how come LNS was quoting from side letters??
Are we expected to believe that the SFA were unaware of the non disclosure of side letters ever since they were first used?
At what point were they aware because that is when they should have questionned Rangers.
Was it when Phil Mac broke the story or when Campbell Ogilvie joined them? Campbell Ogilvie knew all about ebts and it should not be difficult to establish under testimony how much he really knew about their operation.
He had a responsibility as soon as he became part of the SFA to disclose non disclosure, to reveal what he knew and yet football’s greatest administarator stayed silent and in doing so corrupted our game as that silence enabled the justification Bryson gave LNS.
Campbell Ogilvie needs to be brought to account, questions of what he knew and when and why he remained silent about non disclosure if it is established that he did know must be put to him. Who advised Sandy Bryson what and what not to look for? Collusion and corruption lie at the heart of this.
From Wikpedia
In June 2003, Ogilvie became the treasurer, now second vice-president, of the Scottish Football Association (SFA).[5] On 1 June 2007, Ogilvie became first vice-president of the SFA, with Alan McRae taking his place as second vice-president.[6] On 8 June 2011 it was confirmed that Ogilvie would take up the presidency of the Scottish Football Association, succeeding George Peat.[1
Twitter
Opportunistic street vendor outside Ibrox selling Rangers scarves with “Not Guilty” emblazoned on them. Doing a brisk trade.
Hunbelievable!
In light of the guilty verdict from the LNS report, have any teams that had the mis-fotune to play them in Europe not considered their positions?
I can understand all the teams in Scotland towing the party line in pursuit of the orange pound, but what of Fiorntina?Werder Bremen? Sporting?
Auldheid,
Many, many years ago, my father defined the Rangers mindset for me.
He said that they were lacking in the Grace of God.
Nothing that club has done in the intervening years has caused me to redefine that opinion.
Good to hear Neil taking Chris McLaughlin(BBC) to task for misrepresenting him after the press conference yesterday.
Theydon’tlikeitupthemCSC
The Legend Johnny Doyle
Scratch@FaustGarbanzo67
@MattLindsayET Given that “Rangers” were found Guilty, it would be more accurate were he to be selling scarves with “NOT RANGERS” on them
Team news
FF
Adam, Rogne, Kelvin, Izzy.
JF, Efe, Vic, Joe.
Hoops , Stokes
craggy island gaa…
superb news,
auguri!
thomthethim
My da told me they were MORALLY BANKRUPT.
Right off to watch the HOOPS
C’MON Efe gies a goal
“a great atmosphere at Ibrox” Kenny McIntyre
No Surrender belting out in the background; Kenny should stop tapping his feet live on air.
Roy croppie – where did you see or hear this? – thanks.
BBC Sportsound
Napoli based 1PM television news [ broadcast across the south of Italy ].
Wee item re last night’s Napoli Juve game . Wee clip of some Napoli supporters being interviewed re their views of the game . Interviews were conducted in front of a banner which screamed ———- JUVE MERDA .
Can’t imagine such a thing being allowed on Scottish tele.
craggy island gaa
11:39
Deo gratias. Long life and good health to that baby.
48 hours later this stinks even more for me.
There is an absolutely fabulous post at 09:17 today on TSFM re eligibility.
But it was having to listen to McCoist yesterday evening claiming that ‘Rangers’ had been vindicated of any cheating accusation by the report, and in a sense he is right.
Despite recognising deliberate non-disclosure, LNS in almost the next breath says there was no dishonesty. Wtf?
He then elsewhere states that the motivation was tax avoidance but also claims no sporting advantage gained. The only possible explanation I can see for this interpretation is that other clubs could have used EBTs according to FTT verdict. But what about the 5 players on whose payments Rangers conceded PAYE and NIC should have been paid.
Keeping their titles stinks enough, but LNS appears to have gone beyond his remit to preempt any cheating allegations as well. UTT will be our last bite of the cherry in this respect I fear.
Craggy – congrats and best wishes to you and your family.
T4
Serious breach of rules is CHEATING, mr english …… and this cheating afforded them an unfair advantage………. You are a shower of low-lives
craggy island gaa
11:39 on
2 March, 2013
Paul67 and all,
Totally unrelated to the current debate on the blog…
Mr and Mrs Craggy are proud to announce the safe arrival of their baby boy, Craggy Island Junior. He was born yesterday and weighed 8lbs 1oz.
Mother and Son both doing well.
Father and the Craggy Twins all delighted!
Hail Hail to the Celtic Family’s newest arrival.
Congratulations Craggy family, 6 days till her indoors due date. Could be any day now and I’m not allowed to drink until the baby is hear :-(
HH
craggy island gaa,
Many congrats
hope it’s good sign for today as well :-)
Roy croppie – cheers, will try and catch that on a podcast later or if any of the technos on here can post a link just now that would be great.
For many years we knew there was an anti-Celtic agenda …..this little episode confirms it …. Thank goodness they are liquidated
Kilbowie Kelt
Guilt can be a terrible thing and forgiveness of it is good for the soul/spirit.
To not take advantage of what Christ taught all his followers seems bizarre to me as the alternative is to live with guilt until we die. Thus in the absence of absolution the only way to live with guilt is deny the wrongdoing that created it.
“Karma” Says…
“How terrible it will be for You, You Hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs that look beautiful on the outside but inside are full of dead people’s bones and every kind of impurity.”
Might not be instant, but
Karma’s gonna get you…
Spiers article is a joke.
Rangers should never be stripped of titles and we have CQNers saying it was a good article.
HOLY JESUS SUFFERING ****