There is a team in this squad but defending for buttons


Of all the football nonsense, I hate scapegoating most.  So Ryan, I’m sorry, but what on earth were you doing?  We were 0-2 ahead and had created several other very good chances.  Milan were nowhere, they had not mustered a cohesive attack. That foul was conceded in the perfect spot for a free kick taker; you could read the script on how momentum would switch the moment it was awarded.

Attackers are primarily there to exploit opponents weaknesses, Tom Rogic, Odsonne Edouard and Ryan Christie combined to do this and put Celtic two ahead in the San Siro.  Tom came close on another occasion, Callum McGregor had a gilt-edged chance and having got himself into the perfect position, Jeremie Frimpong froze with Milan at his mercy.  We could have been out of sight.

There is a team in this squad.  The formation looked right.  Frimpong seemed liberated from his normal wide anchor, Rogic worried defenders before tiring; in particular, I was impressed by the way the ball was accurately bulleted across the field.

Oh, and we cannot defend for buttons.  I was chastised by a 16-year-old after the game for talking up the relative merits of this performance compared to Ross County.  Apparently there is a rulebook for defending two goal leads away to tier one teams, you defend like Ross County and close the game out.  But we don’t know how to defend like Ross County.  Imagine that!

What I will say is, they fought for their manager last night, Commando Christie in particular.

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    You’re not the only person who’s said it to me over the last few days, I’m sick hearing it. Those who just don’t want Lennon fired, who would keep him in the job no matter the results, no matter the consequences, will cling to any straw that they can.



    You ought not to be encouraging them mate. :)

  2. Notthebus



    Just to complete the circle, can I ask,



    Do you expect Celtic to win all (5?) league games prior the to glasgow derby?

  3. Paul67



    There is a team in this squad. 



    Should Neil Lennon not have found it by now?



    We’ve broken the goals conceded record and when Celtic were awarded Pot One, it’s nearly


    killed us



    Jeremie Frimpong was better in the James Forrest role for sure, Eddy and Rogic benefitted from not getting kicked, but horrendous defending is maybe the culture to which Neil Lennon referred,



    £38M and there’s your dinner



    Goalkeeper ?


    Right back ?


    Centre Back ?


    Defensive mid ?


    Right wing ?


    Left wing ?


    Strikers ?



    Bring on the Saints CSC

  4. prestonpans bhoys on




    Did they say for NI number is corrupted and will put you on to someone? I just put the phone down!!

  5. Europa League stats article, minus the link …






    For all we heard from Neil Lennon last night – all the same old nonsense – and those who thought the performance merited his getting more time, for me the best contribution came from one of the online community. It came from Celtic cyberspace’s @Moravcik67_ on Twitter.



    I’m going to admit that I had missed it initially; it was highlighted on the E-Tims podcast though, and it was there I heard their team discussing it.



    To say it’s a devastating and shocking piece of evidence as to how far we’ve regressed is an understatement.



    There’s no way to sugar-coat this, so I’ll present it as the man himself has; our performance in these five games has been so bad that we are 570th out of 576 for the best defensive records in the history of the Group Stages of the Europa League competition.



    Let me flip that on its head so you better appreciate what it means.



    It means that only six sides in the history of the tournament have lost more goals in the Group Stages than we have in this campaign.



    And it gets worse, because as the man points out, if we lose three more to Lille, which isn’t beyond the realms of possibility, we equal the worst record in the competition. Lose four, as we have in the last three Europa League games, and the wooden spoon is ours to frame and hang in the boardroom.



    As the lads on E-Tims pointed out, our record is so bad that we’re already in the company not so much of the also rans but the genuine cannon fodder, the teams from those footballing superpower nations such as Luxembourg and the League of Ireland.



    I mention them quite specifically; Dundalk, after five games, in a Group that includes Arsenal, have conceded 15 goals to our 17 thus far.



    This, by, the way, has been a vintage year for defensive disasters; even then, we’ve got the top spot, or the low place on the ladder to be more specific.



    Ludogorets, with five defeats out of five, have conceded 16 goals. Nice have conceded 15, along with Dundalk. AEK Athen and Liberec have 13 each … but as valiant as those efforts are, Celtic stands alone.



    There are those who think there is still a possible route out of this for Lennon; their rationale is that if we get through December and sneak something at Ibrox that it will all have been worth it, that the faith the club showed will have been proved right.



    That record, on its own, justifies his firing.



    That record is a disgrace and a humiliation from which there ought to be no way back.

  6. MODERATOR 2 on 4TH DECEMBER 2020 1:08 PM


    BIG JIMMY on 4TH DECEMBER 2020 1:05 PM





    Welcome back, be good now :) and enjoy yourself :)




    I intend to enjoy myself as ever, but I would ask the MODS on here to keep an eye on a certain Part Time Poster who spreads deliberate and malicious LIES about my Financial situation…DESPITE ME advising him on a least FOUR occasions that I am IN FACT…” MINTED”.


    I will enjoy myself even more IF/When Celtic start to WIN games again.



  7. PeterLatchfordsBelly on

    Yeah, there’s a team in there but this manager is incapable of finding it.



    I recommend every fan spends half an hour of their time watching this terrific analysis.



    That includes Lawwell, supposing he is a fan.



    This is a story of self-harm and misplaced loyalty that will result in Sevco winning a treble this season.



    Desmond is placing his loyalty to Lawwell above his loyalty to the club.



    Lawwell is placing his loyalty to Lennon above his loyalty to the club.



    Lennon is placing his loyalty to Brown above his loyalty to the club.



    If you attach higher value to personal loyalties than to club interests you shouldn’t be in these positions.



    And it will see Sevco lift a treble this season.



    A final observation, the club continues to look so old fashioned in its attempts to distract the narrative away from its collective failure. Aside for fooling literally no-one, it just shows how out of time these guys are.



    They are the Kellys and Whites of their era.

  8. We still have a chance in this title race, until that is no longer the case, I will continue to back Neil Lennon.



    Never bowed never beaten, that is Neil Lennon of Celtic fc.




  9. We’ve obviously given up completely on Soro.



    Connell and Henderson also seem to have failed to make the grade.



    Jackson Irvine for me is a no-brainer even if it’s as a stop-gap. In there next to McGregor to do the simple jobs that Brown can no longer achieve.



    I didn’t answer because I thought it was 02 trying to sell me a phone. I then listened to the voice mail.This morning I submitted my seiss Claim this morning. I wonder if that’s coincidental. I don’t know if I should bin the voicemail or just leave it there.

  11. Melbourne Mick on




    LOOOOL, you got that wrong, just said to the princess, get me


    another Rid Biddy, common sense has prevailed.


    Great to see you back big fella, just goes to show, when we’re


    down and everyone and their granny want to stick the boot in,


    the Celtic family come together.


    We’ll argue all day and into the night on here about who’s right


    and who’s not about recent results, but what a misery our lives


    would be without the Celtic.


    Does it come before family? never, but it’s feckin close 8-))


    H.H. Mick

  12. Paul67…



    There’s a team in this squad.



    There are several teams. None of whom will play for the manager. It’s interesting to see that you’ve taken the ‘part of the problem’ side after two articles that hinted even you had reached the giddy limit.



    You’ve criticised the mainstream media, but in fact, you’re just as bad – being a cheerleader for the toxicity and incompetence of our club’s ‘leaders’ is shameful.



    We have two very serious issues. I’ve mentioned both, but I’ll do so again:



    1. The sexual abuse scandal surrounding Celtic Boys Club and the clubs immoral ‘we know nothing/seperate club’ defence. If some things are more important, why not one *single* comment on this? Not a peep. It’s all well and good to grandstand about Celtic’s charity work, but against that backdrop? There *are* something more important than football, this is one of them. Your silence speaks volumes.



    2. The current board and management. Enough has been said on here already, I don’t need to go into that.



    Let’s face it, you’re not going to comment. Why would you? Anything you say might affect ad revenue or the trinkets and baubles fired in your direction from the bedroom tax loving tories known as the Celtic board.




  13. Hearts of Midlothian had over 100 Applicants for their Manager post, not so long ago,


    & that’s a Club the size of Hearts. Point being, if Hearts can attract over 100 Applicants,


    for their football Managerial Vacancy, then wee should attract even more, cause we


    are a bigger Club. I don’t subscribe too Rod The Mod’s suggestion, that no one will touch


    our Managerial position with a barge poll, rubbish Rod, you just stick too writing &


    singing songs, our fellow Timaloy. I also don’t subscribe too, appointing Football Managers


    with one hand tied behind their back, or complete “Yes Men” that does not work, nor is


    it sensible either. As Jock Stein said to the Board a few Moons ago, just leave the Football


    side of things, to me, no interference whatsoever, damn tooting Jock.


    I’ve heard & read a lot of names, being thrown into the ring of suggestions, for example


    1) Eddie Howe, 2) Steve Clarke, 3) Mark Hughes, 4) Alex Neil, 5) Raphiel-B, etc-etc.


    However, if our Club is really serious, about moving us forward instead of back the way, &


    instead of being stuck in a rut, like we are @ present, like a fast Car, moving in Reverse, @


    a fast pace back the way, then I would suggest that we should be, original, sensible &


    adventures. One name/suggestion that springs to mind here as regards to said post,


    would be Ralf Rangnick, who in my opinion, would & could move us forward, in the right


    direction, that is for sure. If ones does proper research into Mr Ralf Rangnick, then one will


    see that, he certainly does fit the bill so to speak, a very sensible selection indeed.




    I expect Celtic to win every game, every time they take the pitch.



    until they don’t!




    Welcome back indeed!



    I was moderated during the week for a spat on here with the chump. He couldn’t hide on SC and he was reprimanded by one of the blog owners.



    Don’t know if he’s free to post on here though.



    Hope you are well!

  16. Chairbhoy @12.38pm


    Thank you. Gordon is well but very displeased with what is unfolding. He was always against building up the intensity around 10-in – row mostly because it was tempting fate and some of us have lived through the disappointment before.


    None of us are giving up. Not on Neil. Not on Celtic . Not on 10- in – row.


    It was Gordon who sent me a coloured photograph popular in the 1950/60s ( usually a pull out from the Evening Times of green Citizen ) showing the full squad of first team and reserve team players. That photo had the shamrock strip displayed with their white collars worn by some of the reserve team.


    Final point. Many of us have lived through very difficult Celtic times but as Corkcelt highlighted today whilst we may have disagreements amongst ourselves about the adequacies of Neil Lennon the team itself whilst starting the season fully tooled up has had an amazing perfect storm descend upon it. Not an excuse but these injuries, pandemic,internationals have all had an impact and we should not dismiss these lightly.


    Again as Corkcelt has identified the intensity of the desire to achieve 10 has heightened the tension and with a reasonably competent Sevco putting together an impressive run whilst completely avoiding any crisis ( see Dundee United news today ) has only served to raise the temperature.


    Neil has achieved a great deal for Celtic,he has suffered a great deal for Celtic and I believe he has earned the right to be supported by all Celtic minded people.

  17. 67 European Cup Winners on

    This is a big moment for me


    Paul67 I agree with every word of that – Bang on the money



    Just a wee note from me


    I watched the Huns game last night


    I was objective (it’s impossible not to hate them but hey ho)


    They are very disciplined – they do not give away free kicks in their half (take note Ryan)


    The biggest threat (BTW i’m no football coach) is the 2 full backs and Kent


    The rest are work horses (not a lot of talent but a lot of discipline)


    They are also fit and physically strong


    They are machine like – limited flair but still effective



    On another note about the Huns – but how many penalties have they had this year ???


    As important how many against ??




  18. The two games against Barcelona in 2012 show our manager has the experience and intelligence to get great defensive performances out if inferior players to the ones we have now.

  19. Moderator.well done.:-))



    Big jimmy.welcome back.:-)


    rumour has it this was all a front


    and you actually are Dermots brother.:-)


    and you were talking to a few zoomers bout Celtics direction of travel.








  20. Delighted to see that quite a number of folk are able to put some distance between (a) disappointment with the defeat and shipping 4 goals and (b) recognising that a few of our players performed well enough to merit one of their 3 ‘best performer’ votes. So keep the ole emails a coming to me at CQNPOTY@GMAIL.COM . And in a one-off relaxation of the usual rules, tonight the polls will stay open for an extra half hour till 10.30 with results out around 10.45. Blame Ant & Dec ;-)

  21. prestonpans bhoys on




    I had their game in the background, sure I heard the fella said it was Tavhuns ninth!

  22. lets all do the huddle on

    You’re not the only person who’s said it to me over the last few days, I’m sick hearing it.

  23. P8DDY:



    Eeeeek! Right … okay ….



    I’m going to defend Paul67 on the first of your points today.



    I myself refuse point blank to touch the subject with a 20 foot pole, although I have all the research done on what was intended to be a demolition piece on the high hopes of the Sevconites that this scandal might ultimately do to us what the taxman did to them.



    The article itself is finished and simply needs an edit and then “press publish”.



    Points of law, comparisons with cases abroad, average pay out costs, burden of proof, what clubs in England have done … I examined the whole spectrum. I have it locked and loaded, but I long ago decided I will not publish it in spite of it being one of the best researched pieces I’ve ever done.



    Because this isn’t a game. Nothing in that article comes close to addressing the central issue; what is OUR RESPONSIBILITY as a club, as business and as an institution?



    Three seperate issues by the way, three seperate strands … all conflated, yet all contradicting one another.



    As a company, the responsibility is to the shareholders. Deny, deflect, demand that the accusers produce proof, admit nothing.



    As a club, we have a responsibility to the wider game to assist in preventing this stuff in future and making sure that we have the highest possible standards of care and vetting etc.



    As an institution, I wonder if none of them matters next to our moral obligations and doing what is right.



    This, by the way, is the closest I’ve EVER come to admitting any of that in a public sphere, although my friends and family members know exactly how I feel about it all, what I think of the club’s handling of it, the people I think are ultimately to blame for letting it happen and who I think ought to be in jail with the perpatrators.



    But you know what? It’s not a football story, and that’s what I write about. Paul67 has his own reasons for not wanting to cover the subject, and I have no problem with whatever they are … perhaps he feels, as I do, that this one is WAAAAAY too big and complex and multifaceted to go near … I don’t remotely have the qualifications to write properly on this subject, in spite of the work I did on the unpublished piece.



    Ultimately, it’s nothing something any of the blogs should be going near … this is bigger than football, it’s bigger than Celtic, it is a societal issue of mammoth proportions and significance way beyond what any of us should be getting into … it just doesn’t belong on a blog.



    It’s way above my metaphorical pay grade, and Paul’s, which is to say nothing for the familes and for the legal cases which are ongoing … it’s way bigger than anything we should be blogging about.



    I have my own feelings on how it will affect the reputations and legacies of some of those at the club right now; I suspect it will damn them in ways other stuff won’t, ways that matter more than results or financial statements or whether or not we win the ten.



    But I am not going to criticise Paul for not editorialising on it, none of us should.



    I know there are guys on here who feel differently, as you do … the whole thing makes me uncomfortable, and not because of the impact on the club it might or might not have. It’s just … I want to shower every time I talk about it. I certainly don’t want to write about it beyond what I already have.

  24. the main and biggest problem we have is that we have a group of midfielders and wing backs trying to play as defenders , a recipe for disaster and it shows, the players we are selecting to play in defence have no positional sense or tackling ability , don’t know how to track forwards or block runs , they are midfield players , waken up for goodness sake Lenny.

  25. Lenny leading us to the ten is a million Armageddon’s rolled into one for the huns and a large chunk of Scottish fitba and Scotia in general.



    I refuse to give up on this man or our team who have given us so many occasions to celebrate over the years.



    Now is not the time to blame this one and that one based on your own bias and sparse knowledge.



    Put all that aside please. This team and our manager need our support more than ever.



    A wee bit of trust, a wee bit of faith, is it too much to ask?







  26. AKBW1888- we will always be in a hamster in the wheel scenario, re managers as long as Lawwell is there.His reputation in controlling and imposing on managers is out there. That’s why we never invite applicants for the role,he headhunts someone who won’t answer back.HH

  27. lets all do the huddle on

    You’re not the only person who’s said it to me over the last few days, I’m sick hearing it.





    if you cant handle hearing or reading the same point multiple times by different folk then maybe social media isnt for you

  28. P8DDY Paedophilia is rife in UK Society which is a fact even nowadays & not just back in the 1980’s.


    Red Shoes, untold amount of children going missing in the UK each year. The BBC


    covering up Jimmy Saville, & even today they have the said knighthood nonse, which should


    be stripped from his name & memory, pictured up on their New Building Enterence Hall is


    shameful & a disgrace.

  29. proper defenders have a different mind set from midfielders when in and around the penalty box other than the centre circle re heading the ball , tackling etc , in midfield you can get away with a lazy tackle for a free kick but in the box is either a goal or penalty when you select midfielders for defensive duties.

  30. !!BADA BING!! on 4TH DECEMBER 2020 1:50 PM


    AKBW1888- we will always be in a hamster in the wheel scenario, re managers as long as Lawwell is there.His reputation in controlling and imposing on managers is out there. That’s why we never invite applicants for the role,he headhunts someone who won’t answer back.HH



    !!Bada Bing!! if that’s the case then it’s like that old song title “There May Be Trouble Ahead”


    However a lot of us, including myself, is not dancing to that tune.

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