All week I’ve been telling myself that it is a healthy thing that discriminatory chanting has come under the spotlight prior to Euro 2012. The world needs to focus on those who are unable to find an outlet for their testosterone without picking on the vulnerable.
We know all about discriminatory chanting in Scotland, you could say, we’re up to our knees in it, so I’ve been slightly uncomfortable at the tone to some of the reporting about Poland and Ukraine. It feels a bit like we’ve decided, ‘They have it too, let’s talk about them. Not us’. When I say “us”, I don’t mean you, of course.
Fair enough, I thought, let’s bring this issue out, but at the start of the second half between Netherlands and Denmark when BBC commentator Jonathan Pearce reported “We haven’t heard any racist comments here today. Not when the young, black, Dutch left back got the ball, or at any other time” I figured this is more about xenophobia than racism. Xenophobia about Eastern Europe.
We’re no wiser about how to deal with our testosterone-fuelled under-achievers with a purpose to find than anyone else. In fact, we’re worse for allowing our intellectuals to indulge in the last refuge of the scoundrel.
My money is on the Polish and Ukrainian fans emerging from this tournament with a better reputation than some of their Western European counterparts.
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Frankie Boyle @frankieboyle
Incredible to watch the Red Road flats come down. Great work, surely this firm must now be top of the list for the Ibrox job.
:)
BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 10 June, 2012 at 12:53 said:
Big Nan
Their football club throughout history is a true declaration of all that they are. Cheating, lying has become the norm, a way of existence. They live and prosper by these means. Low morals and low self-esteem. But in this country they are legion and Scotland is a circus, where right is wrong and wrong is heralded.
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Irvine Smith says in his book that even now nearly 40 years after the result of the damages case he is approached by Rangers supporters who were dissatisfied with his decision. Despite the fact that his decision was accompanied by extensive reasons, which in effect found that Rangers’ directors and managers had lied and done nothing about a danger that they knew of, Irvine Smith says that Rangers acquaintances cannot accept that his decision was not prejudiced or wrong.
Funnily enough Rangers FC did not appeal his Finding of Fact. But they did try to “nickel and dime” the damages by having the charitable donations included, etc.
But from that day till this Irivine Smith is accused of being disloyal to his brethren.
He is almost certainly a Mason, but a decent one, and that won’t do for “The People”.
The dangers of following an agenda ——–
Italian radio reporter has just said this [ I paraphrase }
The desire to report on Euro 2012 related violence is forcing European media outlets to fabricate stories –
EG —— Spanish businessman [ reported as missing in the Ukraine @ 4 weeks ago ] has been found dead [ presumed murdered ] in the Ukraine . Ukrainian police have stated that they suspect he was murdered after a business deal ” went wrong “.
Those are the known ” facts ” but that hasn’t stopped headlines like these –
” Spanish football fan killed in Ukrainian football violence .”
Off to the beach ——– a hot day . Will watch Italy / Spain in a bar on the beach .
Way to go CSC -way down south.
For those watching the Spain/Italy game on ITV, I have horrendous news for us all
Craig Burley is the co commentator
Campbell Ogilvie……
The question that SHOULD be asked is this…….
We don’t care whether you knew the names of those players who had EBT’s. That is irrelevant.
What is important is that you knew what an EBT is. Clearly you did. You had one yourself. It comprises payment OUTWITH your contract.
You would also know that the rules concerning players’ registration required that all payments related to playing, be included in the registration documentation.
So, question number 1:
While at Rangers, did you know what an EBT was?
Question 2:
While at Rangers, were you aware of the rules concerning registration?
Question 3:
While at the SFA, were you aware of the rules concerning registration?
Just saying…..
Frankie Boyle is a serial tweeter, I don’t know where he gets the time. Anyway here’s his latest:
@frankieboyle: Incredible to watch the Red Road flats go down. Great work, surely this firm must now be top of the list for the Ibrox job.
CO should be hammered by the MSM. He is recognised as one of the TOP administrators in the game. You only get such a reputation by knowing EVERYTHING that is going on.
His “I didnae know” defence is laughable.
Campbell Ogilvie = O J Simpson
shameless misreporting of PmcC`s case
the clear implication from the article was that he had been disq from practising as a solicitor for 10 years and that there had been misappropriation of client funds
will the SoS have the required integrity to print his response….
Ten Men Won The League
According to the Polish sources, nothing serious has happened. When Polish and Irish fans celebrated good times, the group of the fans from Croatia started shouting not nice words at Irish fans. Irish and Polish fans brought few garlands of flawers at the Croatians. There must be plenty of flowers in the pubs these days. Nobody injured. Irish fans continued celebrations in the other pub.
And while ranglers past sins are being exposed – what about them veto-ing the building of a brand new state-of-the-art Hampden Park.
Am I the only one who watched the tv expose(bbc-stv) in the early 90’s?
The journalist said “this is sensational” .
Next day I eagerly scanned the papers for coverage of this scandal but there was Zilch -nothing. I assume the rangler legal team had been at work.
Good Celtic Quick News.
Sharapova revels in Grand Slam success
Maria Sharapova completed her career grand slam with victory in the French Open final and then declared: “This is just the start.”
It was certainly a red letter day for the 25-year-old, who will climb back to number one in the world on Monday having added the Roland Garros trophy to the Wimbledon, US Open and Australian Open crowns she already owns.
Her performance, where she overpowered 21st seed Sara Errani 6-3 6-2, was also a complete transformation from the player who once described her movement on clay as like a cow on ice. Sharapova said: “It’s the most unique moment I’ve experienced in my career. I never thought I would have that.”
He added: “I thought that when I won Wimbledon at 17, that would be the most treasured moment of my career. But when I fell down on my knees I realised that this was extremely special, and even more so.”
The Russian’s victory was all the more meaningful given the 10 months she spent out of the sport in 2008 and 2009 with a shoulder injury that put her career in jeopardy.
It has been a slow road back to the top for Sharapova but her form this year is comparable with anything before her surgery and her serve is now a strength again rather than a liability.
She said: “It’s a long journey. It started from a very young age. It’s not over yet. I’m not sitting here and saying I’m done, because I’m far from it.
“I have a lot more in me to achieve. I believe in my game. I think that’s one of the reasons why I’m sitting here with my fourth one and winning Roland Garros, is because I always believed I could be better, I could be a better player, whether it was on clay, grass, cement, anything, I always strive to be better.
“And one per cent here, a few here, this is what I’ve always wanted to achieve. No matter how tough it was, no matter how many people didn’t believe in me, didn’t think that I could get to this point, I didn’t care and I didn’t listen.
“I always listened to my own voice, and it always told me that for some reason I’m meant to be better. I’m meant to succeed again. And I did.”
Z
Paul67 on 9 June, 2012 at 18:34 said:
new article posted.
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:>)
bournesouprecipe
“and Ireland have been much more successful, moving from tournament to tournament”;
First European Championship since 1988, and first major finals since 2002.
Still, to be fair, you did say you did not follow Ireland that closely!
MEA culpa, 13.30,
Spot on.
For 30 years the LL have been singing the praises of Ogilvie as the greatest book-keeper & operator since Jake ‘Greasy Thumb’ Gusik worked his own special brand of numerical dexterity for the Chicago Mob.
Now they are happy to accept that in reality he has been a witless ‘patsy’.
When will our pitifully cowardly, lickspittle hacks have a look at themselves in the mirror & grow a pair ?
To anyone who knew him Terence O’Donnell from Perth,Donegal,Dublin and lately Portugal,cousin of the famous Daniel,founder of the JFK CSC and the JFK flute band,a poet,singer and a good man he passed away yesterday after battling cancer. There’s to be a mass in St Johns Perth then the funeral is to be in Dublin where he’ll be laid to rest alongside his beloved wife Mary who was so tragically snatched away from him many years ago.
Many happy memories Terry may God rest your soul.
This was one of his favourite songs and bhoy could he sing it well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULaSYT1U4rI
TAL and HH
The Messi show
Brazil vs Argentina 3-4 All Goals, June 9th, 2012
Well good afternoon CQNers!
Been away a few days so hadn’t a chance to keep in the inside track.Can anyone briefly explain the importance of Thursday? I’ve heard a few folk saying thats it’s all going to kick off.
PFAYR/BIGNAN
You are correct to point out the inaccuracies in the SOS article.
Paul McConville does a sterling job in explaining these inaccuracies in his letter of response to them.
However ,let us not forget the real victims here.
The working class miners and their families who suffered and are rightfully due compensation.
One of these miners ( Mr Hunter) who was so shoddily let down ,was from my home town of Buckhaven.
These are working class people who put their trust in legal professionals.
They really do deserve better.
Please do not excuse the ineptitude that was put upon them, because the person who was inept, is highlighting ( quite brilliantly) the ineptitude and cover up at RFC (IA).
These miners deserve justice and were badly let down by Paul McConville,however mitigating his reasons.
Justice for the miners.
TT
Kayal33
Thanks for posting GB video
Excellent stuff
Hail Hail
From KDS
http://kerrydalestreet.co.uk/single/?p=11503931&t=8691149
HAIL HAIL
is that all they got Delia ? being economical with the truth, fupp the rank closing bar stewards
I was looking for info on rangers season books to see what the craic is with sales etc – tried to get on the RFC(ia) site. Nothing happening. Is their site down? Can they not afford the hosting fees?????
TT
i wasn`t confusing anything …merely commenting on the blatant intentionally pejorative inaccurate reporting
journo`s must get it right …why not …the rest of us in life have to
for the avoidance of doubt i don`t know PMcC ..i do admire his work …
i can only speculate that this may have had something to do with the tone of the SoS article
if not the reporting is just rank poor
the hvns at the bbc just cannot help themselves
new league table has the champions second ;))))))
tax dogers in ninth place
PFAYR
I agree that the reporting was at best poor .We will never know about the real intent.
TT
Messi’s 3rd goal last night was stunning, if he keeps out of the Barcelona pubs and clubs and away from the honey traps he might turn out to be a no bad player :)
JUNGLEJAM67
Brilliant idea-call them TaxdodgersFC and they are in bottom spot.
Deniabhoy
Just read graham hunter book on barca, would recommend it, and this was a concern at the end of rijkaard tenure and the main reason Deco and Ronaldhino were moved on.
PFAYR
Also for the avoidance of doubt.I too admire Paul McConvilles efforts in bringing clarity and if not for anything else, highlighting the dirty deeds of the Cloven hoofed ones.
He clearly has a great brain.
TT
To cheer us up
I read this every now and then (some crude references)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R231U4ZG0YDNHD
Anybody read the Book of Evidence , I’ve just finished The Sea by Banville – it was great , may move onto Boof of evidence
here’s all the reviews
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B000KKNQBK
PF Ayr
Poor reporting is our daily bread, alas.
Journalists are thinner on the ground. Pages need filling. The PR industry is powerful. We didn’t use just to leave no question unanswered, we left no answer unquestioned. Now we often have so many pages to fill and so little time that if some PR firm hands you some “news” that we can put into the system with a minimum of topping and tailing and then move onto the next thing, it’s hard to turn it down. PR firms manipulate this. They convince their clients that marketing budgets are better spent in this way than on ad campaigns. If journal A vanishes through a lack of investment from advertisers, journal B will take the story. They peddle the image of editorial teams comprising fat, drunken, lazy hacks who will put their names to anything that lets them get to the pub faster.
Most journalists want to do a better job, but it takes time. Proprietors and publishers often pay lip service to hard-hitting, “proper” reporting, but they would like it to happen fast, to generate few or no expenses and for no advertisers to be upset. They are like the Latin husband who wants his wife to be an angel in the kitchen and something entirely different in the bedroom. This is a deeply conflicted profession now, full of ambitious young people who are desperately keen on fame and the bright lights and are wonderful at managing email lists, but are less keen on the traditional aspects of the job, the ones that involve getting your hands and shoes dirty and require great clarity of thought and, sometimes, courage.
For the avoidance of doubt, I’m not saying a PR firm had anything to do with the poor reporting in Paul’s case. And I’m not excusing it. He deserves the right to correct the false impressions the lazy journalism has created.
jungle jam67
The teams are in alphabetical order, that’s all.
WhiteDogHunch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NwcJTN-GTWY#t=626s
Messi winner — Better Replay angles.
Tell you what, that boy Nadal might just make the big time. Definite promise there!
Vmhan
Thanks for new article news. I just posted there.
Democratic societies and modern economies desperately need good journalists to provide checks and balances. Otherwise, the powerful can do what they like. Good journalists are not born; they learn their trade like most others. There need to be platforms for their work. If it’s not newspapers, fine. It can be online. It can be broadcast, especially audio (television news is fast becoming a total waste of time in my opinion).
Local newspapers in the UK have become a complete joke, jostling one another in a desperate race to hit the bottom. Meanwhile, councils and city halls are answerable to no one and we don’t even know who most of the candidates are at local election time and all the debates centre on national or para-national issues that local “politicians” can do absolutely nothing about.
Local papers should be all over the debates that take place in local politics, covering the education questions, the closures, the cuts, the characters from all angles, without fear or favour. Instead, they just want to mimic the sensationalist garbage of the tabloids offering nothing but anaesthesia to the paying public instead of attempting to tackle what really matters in a meaningful way.