I heard Leigh Griffiths was being damned in a Scottish newspaper with a wide-eyed wonder about how many goals Steven Fletcher would score against Hamilton Accies, Ross County and Kilmarnock. Not Fenerbahce, Aberdeen or Malmo, who Leigh has scored four times against in four games, but didn’t rate a mention. Not even his goal against the mighty (cough) St Johnstone was recalled.
Leigh is the great underdog of our time. The Tea Cake Warrior who has reached above this allotted station. Hostile journalists are not alone in dismissing his potential, ask around, there are some in our own ranks.
Yesterday he responded, with wonderful understatement, to Paul Dykes tweet (below), noting the return he’s given compared to some of the more successful strikers we’ve had over the last dozen years of so, with “Not too bad I suppose…”
Goal scoring stats don’t tell you everything. Griffiths, Hooper and McDonald have a better goal return in their first 50 Celtic games than Henrik Larsson, but they are nowhere near the player he was, but if you are paid to be a goal scorer, this is a pretty important measure.
What Larsson did after those 50-or-so games was kick on with impressive style, eclipsing the exploits of Dalglish, and gave a return only McGrory could match. It’s totally unfair to ask Leigh to emulate Larsson, but there are comparisons with the immaculate Swede, Hooper and McDonald he achieve. All of them scored big goals for Celtic in important games.
When given a chance, Leigh has delivered in Europe. He never played for Celtic against Oldco Rangers, but he opened the scoring in an important League Cup semi-final against Newco last season, and he shows none of the complacency one or two on the above list were, on occasion, accused of.
A “bunch of Scots wrinklies” are walking through the Grand Canyon from Friday to raise funds for St Andrew’s Hospice in Airdrie. The Hospice costs thousands of pounds each week to carry out the work they do. Have a look here at what one of the “wrinklies” has to say about it. You’ll no doubt read more from Weeron inside.
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Hamiltontim
As I said earlier, the kids are not fly enough, the banner a saw the cops taking off them could easily been taken into a stadium, easy.
Every Celtic fan could have had a banner at Hamilton on Sunday wouldn’t have made any difference. The Snp won’t revoke there policy they think it’s working.
TONYDONNELLY67 on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:12 PM
Hamiltontim
I’m sorry, not being smart, why do I have to become a member, I’m a season ticket Celtic Supporter?
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No bother Tony.
FAC only came into existence because of the OBaF Act. It’s raison d’être is to oppose the criminalisation of football supporters.
My own motivation for joining was because I became sick of watching Celtic supporters being unfairly and unjustly treated and unnecessarily harassed by the police.
I got sickened of frequently being filmed at away grounds simply because I was a football supporter.
I’ve since learned that we as Celtic supporters are not alone in this regard.
The OBaF Act is a piece of legislation with political motives, drafted under spurious ideals.
Every supporter should oppose it in the strongest terms.
TONTINE TIM on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 3:59 PM
Derek Dougan was an honorary member of the City Hibernians Club in Belfast and spent many a night socialising in said premises with people of the “other side” as it were
HAMILTONTIM on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:03 PM
You go to FAC meetings. Why are the people taking the banners in so young. Walked past them on Sunday and my mate comment was they look about 10. Its hard to take them seriously even although the problem is. Needs political support IMO.
Hamiltontim
And as for tipping your hand to the cops! What’s wrong with that, send out leaks, have them running all over the place, stick in bogus meetings in public places, massive protests in George’s squar, theirs a million way to lead them dancing and make them and the government look stupid, just takes a wee bit of thinking, not rocket science, but your only problem ? Is the joining thing, that a don’t get.
TONYDONNELLY67 on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:21 PM
Hamiltontim
As I said earlier, the kids are not fly enough, the banner a saw the cops taking off them could easily been taken into a stadium, easy.
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I think that’s fairly accurate.
I took in a banner on Sunday but had it concealed on my person until I was in the stadium.
Please believe me, FAC have been, and continue to try and help, with advice and even financial support, to those supporters who are falling victim of this legislation.
We’ve also distributed ‘bust cards’ which highlight an individual’s rights when stopped by the police and what personal information you’re required by law to divulge.
It’s clear from the clip that some of the youngsters have some knowledge of this.
https://twitter.com/CelticFCSLO/status/651775498637414400
LP
The vast majority of those who took banners in on Sunday were 40+.
Young ones are taking banners because often they’re the ones being targeted.
TonyD
I’m tired as I’ve been away on a residential trip with the weans for the last two nights so that’s my excuse for not understanding what you mean about the joining thing.
Can you explain?
Newcastle nearly got relegated last season.
This year, they look a stick-on.
How would that affect Ashley ? A major financial headache ?
It’s clear from the clip that some of the youngsters have some knowledge of this. – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-2/#comment-2693892
Some have the knowledge, just doesent cut it, they where kids, no adults, so the cops treated them and the situation like that, just mischief, run off children, now a few adults there ? Different story entirely, that was the whole problem.
Oh and the young 18 yeR old who was banned for six months, why wasent that made available on our social media, and crowds asked to turn up and make some noise, you missed a trick there?
Hamiltontim
Awe, OK, why do I have to join FAC?
Or for that matter anyone?
TONYDONNELLY67 on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:47 PM
It’s clear from the clip that some of the youngsters have some knowledge of this. – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-2/#comment-2693892
Some have the knowledge, just doesent cut it, they where kids, no adults, so the cops treated them and the situation like that, just mischief, run off children, now a few adults there ? Different story entirely, that was the whole problem.
Oh and the young 18 yeR old who was banned for six months, why wasent that made available on our social media, and crowds asked to turn up and make some noise, you missed a trick there?
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-2/#comment-2693896
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We can only ‘miss a trick’ if we know about it.
Often the problem is that arrests etc under the OBaF Act aren’t made known to us for a number of different reasons.
LENNON’S PASSION on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:13 PM
I also wonder, if the boy had produced a share certificate showing that he was a shareholder in Morrisons PLC and asked for a written statement from the manager as to why his custom was not wanted
That’s priceless seriously can’t believe someone wrote that.
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-2/#comments
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LP
It was me that wrote that so can I ask why you can’t believe someone wrote it?
cheers
BRTH
PETETHEBEAT on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:44 PM
Newcastle nearly got relegated last season.
This year, they look a stick-on.
How would that affect Ashley ? A major financial headache ?
They could swoop for Warbiola before he goes to Liverpool…..
TonyD
I’m sorry you’ve lost me. I haven’t said you need to join FAC.
However, if you’re keen to highlight the nonsense that is the OBaF Act and you wish to try and help those its targeting then you’d be welcome to join.
I think we’d be better served fighting the offensive act than fighting each other.
Just a thought.
So 17 year olds are stupid then?
Bmcuw
I’m not fighting anyone mate I’m only trying to highlight what FAC does in opposition to the Act.
Hopefully, it will have given some posters food for thought.
Bada
The 17 year old appeared to know more about his civil liberties than an officer of the law.
Oh
GM
When you reach civilisation give it a watch.
Oh dear lol
HT,
I can’t wait that long.
I’ll watch it when I get home :)
HH
Mr Big always wins because he is focussed on the big picture.
Those who oppose Mr Big inevitably focus so much on incidentals that they fall out.
Factions are the enemy of organised protest.
Monty Python got it right with the Popular Front of Judea,etc. If yer not focussed,you’ll lose.
BROGAN ROGAN TREVINO AND HOGAN SUPPORTS OSCAR KNOX, MACKENZIE FURNISS AND ANYONE ELSE WHO FIGHTS NEUROBLASTOMA on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 4:51 PM
Made me laugh mate how did that even enter your thought process. Celtic ticket check,scarf check, Morrison share certificate.
I don’t think anyone said all 17 year olds are stupid.
You see this is where it goes wrong, someone puts a spin on it, and the conversations gone.
Why the spin?
What is that? Why do you do that?
When does that become input to a discussion, honestly?
The 17 year old appeared to know more about his civil liberties than an officer of the law. – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-3/#comment-2693914
It’s not a hidden secret that cops are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
You should all watch this video of a referee letting a player choose between a yellow and red card, then you should laugh, then share it with others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0_R1DdpjiU
If you do not follow the above steps you may be breaking a law…
TonyD
I’ve not spun anything.
I think the way that those bhoys conducted themselves was admirable in the face of police harassment.
I was merely pointing out to Bada that the one who identifies as a 17 year old certainly seems to know more about his rights than the officer questioning him.
TONYDONNELLY67 on 7TH OCTOBER 2015 5:13 PM
The 17 year old appeared to know more about his civil liberties than an officer of the law. – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-3/#comment-2693914
It’s not a hidden secret that cops are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
– See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/griffiths-understatement-nailing-detractors/comment-page-3/#comment-2693917
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And I think that is part of the problem. Lower ranking officers genuinely don’t know how this Act is to be enforced.
Consequently we had a judge describe it as ‘mince’.
HT- The bhoy handled himself very well,under considerable provocation.HH
Bada
I think you’re right, it wasn’t just harassment, I think they were quite deliberately trying to provoke a reaction.
Hamiltontim
That’s exactly what happened , the police had nothing on these Bhoys and so tried to make them react by causing them to use offensive language , well done to the Bhoys for not reacting.
HT-They were very quick to trot out the Breach of the Peace line,when a boy swore,criminal waste of time and public money all in.HH
Hamiltontim
I didn’t mean you with the spin, it was Bada Bings contribution….
So all 17 year olds are stupid, no one said that, no one.
LP
Just the way my mental mind thinks.
I recognise all the logic in what you say but my mind works a different way!
The way i read it the boys were all about protest and not so much about the match and they had the knowledge that they were going to try and display the banner in and or around the Morrison’s car park. If I have that wrong then I am clearly wrong.
My wee brain would look for where the trouble might come from and one potential answer would be Morrison’s and their manager and so I merely pose the question how do you get a manager on your side or to become accountable to you? One answer would be to be a Morrison’s shareholder — even though that is unlikely.
However, in the past when involved in some kind of protest or other, it has always been a joy to think these things through and watch as someone makes an anticipated mistake where you have a trump card to play.
Now, I hate people pulling rank or using a position of power wrongly but when they do only to be met by someone who has them stumped is brilliant!
I have been in the situation where two over officious policemen ( and let me stress at this point that there are many many very good and courteous Policemen and women ) told someone rather sternly ” Right, we are going to charge you and make a report to the procurator fiscal about this!” – The very fact that there was absolutely no justification for this threatened action was made even better by someone else in the company coming forward and saying ” That’s good. I am a senior procurator fiscal attached to such and such a unit, and you can report to me right now as to what you think this man has done and what crime you think he has committed1″
The very same to policemen virtually ran at that point.
On another occasion, I witnessed officers get very shirty with someone who came forward and who ventured that the policemen had overstepped the mark in a certain situation.
The two concerned became somewhat irate at the suggestion and started asking the guy concerned questions:
“are you this man’s solicitor?”
“No but…….”
” Well this has nothing to do with you…..”
” Well if you charge him I will happily come forward as a witness and give evidence that in my opinion you are abusing your powers as a police constable!”
” And you would know the law on that would you?”
“Yes”
” I suppose you are a solicitor?”
“Well no!”
You’re not a solicitor”
” well what would you know about the law in this instance with all due respect? We will determine what the law is not you!”
” Actually I am Lord so and so — I am a judge!”
The apologies took at least 5 minutes and the guy wasn’t charged.
Now the point is not what the conduct of any individual but when faces with someone with a legal status, human nature brings about a reconsideration of the position.
Years of work always makes me ask “What if so and so does this?”
In this instance — what would the Morrisons man do faced with a shareholder?
It’s a wee bit like when the board of any company or organisation is faced with a shareholder!! lol