Banning 128 fans seems impossibly indiscriminate. I don’t know how it was decided but it sounds like “those eight columns and sixteen rows” – painting with a very broad brush. If so, the Club must meet with those in the affected area as soon as possible to allow fans who have had nothing whatsoever to do with vandalism or dangerous behaviour to continue to follow their club. If such a letter arrived on my doorstep, I would want to face the Club urgently. We’ve all been tarred by the pyros, banners and vandalism, but some are paying a higher price.
Unless there is specific evidence against an individual, the default expectation must be that bans will be lifted after interview.
Back in July, after the Club and the Green Brigade met to agree a way forward following some early season Uefa disciplinary problems, we wondered if either could control every last hanger-on hoping to ‘stick it to the man’. Statements in recent days from both organisations show how impossible this has proven to be.
When I wrote my article on Saturday I didn’t expect the condemnation of the previous night’s incidents, from all sections of the support, to be so comprehensive. We’ve seen elsewhere the damage procrastination and deflection can be. There is no need to deflect. We will not blame Chelsea fans. Nor is there need for ‘whataboutery’. Vandalising seats and throwing flares is now endemic in our game but Celtic fans are judged by higher standards. The Celtic support is characterised by by enormous generosity. Still.
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Auldheid. I don’t doubt you are a trust worthy fella but in my opinion maybe to trusting I have found in business matters many thing are said and many people take different interpretations of what is said or meant.I can give an example in Celtics situation PL has said in many occasions in the past he would bring in a marquee signing can you tell me the last time it actually happened now im sure if you asked him or suggest he was being economical with the truth I am sure he would tell you that is not the case but that he is still looking for the marquee signing. I would also say I hope I am reading it all wrong and that you are right but somehow I don’t think I am. H.H.
Great ———–
Post match media stuff in Istanbul —–
Hack from Tutto Sport [ a Turin based /national paper -a mouthpiece for Fiat and Rube asks Felipe Melo a question] — Melo ignored the dumb ass question and said this ———–
” When the draw was made you wrote that Juve had drawn 2 sweeties , us and Copenhagen .Great , see how that finished- Juve couldn’t beat us , they drew with Copenhagen .Don’t see you turning your nose up now ! “
Francis has just been named Time Magazine’s “person of the year”.
Viva el Papa!
Googybhoy…
What does Francis have on a Friday……Holy Mackerel?
Jf.
You do tend to argue while involved in a debate.
thebarcamole
15:06 on 11 December, 2013
Foxy 14:56 on 11 December, 2013
‘anti Irish Celtic and Rangers fans taken to task by NUJ’…………….
Not how I read it………..
TBM
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Nor I
Oh I’d rather be a Guapo than a hun
I’d rather be a Guapo than a hun………
….all together now…………
Come on CQN’ers and Bare Bummers
…..let’s get Googybhoy’s Mackerel thread going………
Russian President Vladimir Putin has told his military leadership they should build up their forces in the Arctic as a priority.
Mon The Polar Bears!
Leftclick @1509
A guy I used to work beside who liked a flutter had a theory that when a centre half scores in his first game for a while he often scores in the next game.
Came in on a good few occasions.
25’s ye say?
Not so many CQN ANNUALS to post today. Here’s where they are heading. Link at the bottom for UK orders.
Newtonabbey
Stirling
Cathcart
Glasgow
Cumbernauld
Linlithgow
Aghadowey
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kikinthenakas (if you’re about),
Off oot to the pub -:)
Setting free the bears
I posted what I thought it ment, you say it’s a myth, so I didn’t make it up that was what I was led to believe what it ment with many Italians I worked with, and it was used many, many times in the workshop without the blink of an eye, you won’t get this as you and your we gang are after me like a pack of wolves, I have made my appols. Scroll back again slowwwwwly and you will see it, you and your little pals agenda is going to have a long way to go if you think you scare me son, HH
Celtic first
Ed Valladolid muy guapa?
Foxy
14:56 on
11 December, 2013
anti Irish Celtic and Rangers fans taken to task by NUJ
http://www.nuj.org.uk/news/a-milestone-for-journalists-in-scotland/
EH ?
Nice of you to put your MSM slant on it and add Celtics name to an article which in no way links them to any abuse.
Ed = es
Joe Filippis Haircut
It is a matter of judgement at the end of the day and that depends on information.
The issue here is did the SFA do a proper job of granting a UEFA licence in 2011 and do proper monitoring thereafter?
Both Celtic and requistitioners accepted that on the granting aspect the SFA were technically correct to grant at 31st March but there are questions to be answered about the monitoring.
The reason why this is still important is to see how a club that had no intention of paying their tax bill were able to represent themselves as if they were. Either the rules are not strong enough or somebody was less than diligent in applying them.
I think it is the latter, requiring a change in the former. This makes it an SFA/UEFA issue with Celtic indeed all clubs having a vested interest in closing any loopholes to stop it happening again.
And if it is in Celtic’s best interest, it’s in PLs interest. Hence the adjournment.
See that a few wanting to have a pop at PL and the board in acting with perceived undue haste in blaming and suspending some members of the support for events which unfolded at Motherwell
You have to appreciate that Celtic will be in possession and have information on the identities of a fair number of persons in the vicinity of the damage and no doubt they will be aware of wether these persons are affiliated to any group by association or by membership
As most travelling Celtic supporters who attend away games on a regular basis will tell you the majority of stewards stewarding the Celtic away support are the self same ones who steward the match days at Celtic Park and are well aware of the identities of members of particular groups
auldheid. Good Luck with it fella I will continue to watch with interest. H.H,
mickbhoy1888
I hope you are right.
So does that mean all 128 suspended are absolutely 100% guilty?
desertbhoy
15:21 on 11 December, 2013
thebarcamole
15:06 on 11 December, 2013
Foxy 14:56 on 11 December, 2013
‘anti Irish Celtic and Rangers fans taken to task by NUJ’…………….
Not how I read it………..
TBM
“…….
Nor I………..
Cheers pal…… Thought that maybe for a minute it was just me!
Did you pass on my best to the Dubai Hoops?
Hope all is well and you are enjoying the Dub’s…….
Regards & Hail Hail
TBM
Joe Filippis Haircut
Cheers. There is a lot more riding on this than just the licencing.
Googy, sí. Y el vino muuuuyyyyyy bueno.
Long time lurker. Hobbies included being overly suspicious of the PLCs motives and laughing at alleged Celtic supporters who continually spout the same nonsense that is dished out on a daily basis by the SMSM and the Zombie hoards. The premise being ‘if it quacks like a Hun then it is a Hun’ albeit deluded enough to believe it is in fact a Celtic supporter.
You have just drank Whiskey in Madrid brothel with Frank.
COYBIG
TonyD67
Your old workplace reminds me of my Dad telling me about the shipyards on the Clyde where he worked and was regularly called a “taig and a Mick”.
ASonOfDan
15:16 on
11 December, 2013
Francis has just been named Time Magazine’s “person of the year”.
Viva el Papa!
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Head of cruel, ‘in the business of selling hope’ corporation, enemy of the poor and oppressed wins award. From Satan.
TonyD
You apologise with the grace and sincerity of a former sports quiz host and his crew.
But it’s nice to know I have a wee gang.
Tin hat on!!! Aaaarrrghhhh
big pierres 2 front teeth
15:11 on 11 December, 2013
Ajax fans at it again in Milan just now
What’s happened ?
e=mc2
I’m an athiest and even I am delighted that Pope Francis is being acknowledged for trying to drag a dinosaur of an organisation into the modern world.
Here’s hoping he succeeds.
Googybhoy
My old work place you are talking about now pay attention here mate, was in Canada, and off the top of my head I think at one time at lunch break we counted the diff nationalities where in our plant 26 from all over the planet, and there was never a problem not one, I think your old man would have liked it, I know I did, great guys, great fun, and plenty of football rivalry with no problems, don’t judge me on my opinion on the GB , you don’t know me.
Reading back on here is painful -)))
You wouldn’t think the Hoops have a game tonight.
Some guys on here need to get out a bit more !
TheBarcaMole
15:36 on
11 December, 2013
How are you doing pal
Pope Francis is patently a good man, D.V he goes on to become the Pope the Church needs.
The Honest Mistake.
I love Mackerel you just put me off my dinner.
burghbhoy
15:36 on 11 December, 2013
I doubt very much that 128 persons are 100% guilty but I imagine that a fair few of them were well aware of the damage being caused and the persons responsible and had ample opportunity to move away to another part of the stand thus disassociating themselves from the real culprits
Setting free the bears
But not as sleeket as you eh? Next thing you will be telling me is you don’t know me, pffffft.
Lustig heading for an op after the game again’st Barcelona it seems, that’s a real shame in my opinion as he was up there for PoTY.