AIK, Thistle, James Forrest again

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While we hoped for a backlash, the performance on Saturday against Dunfermline was in the post.  Scoring 12 in two league games this month is more of a measure of where we are right now, but Tuesday’s defeat cast a long shadow.  Whatever hangover exists, it needs to lift by Thursday.

Two pieces of positive news arrived yesterday: a home tie in the quarterfinals, against Partick Thistle, and AIK lost at home to Kalmar.  Thistle will be no easier than Dunfermline, but they are the only lower league team left in the competition and the tie is at Celtic Park.

AIK rested five who eliminated Sheriff on Thursday, but as we know, a defeat at home to a team with significantly fewer resources damages morale.  AIK will slip four points off the pace if Djurgarden win at home tonight.

For a while on Saturday, it looked like our monopoly of domestic trophies could end.  Winning 28 consecutive cups games is unfathomably consistent, even the greatest teams have off days.  It is a measure of James Forrest that he again delivered.

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  1. Silver City 1888 on

    If it was worth saying once….

     

    Celtic can not come out and call an SFA official a cheat. They could write an open letter to the ruling body, asking exactly how they are interpreting the new rules given the variation in application in recent matches.

  2. TRADITIONALIST88 on 19TH AUGUST 2019 11:58 AM

     

     

    Desmond did get more involved in 2016 and its not beyond the realms of possibility he does again soon.

     

     

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    Anything is possible. Doesn’t mean Phil has any insight.

     

     

    In what way has Desmond become more involved?

  3. Garngad to Croy on

    Well said Tim Boyd ! That reminds me I better renew my Celtic TV subscription, I love listening to Tom Boyd’s commentary , by the way it was those 2 f@nnies on ‘off the ball’ that started the witch hunt after the match on Saturday . Switch off the BBC , switch on Celtic TV !

  4. Phil said it is his ‘belief’ that Lenny and Broony had words. What does that mean, belief! You either have sources or you don’t, sounds like he’s joining the dots in his own head.

  5. Stairheedrammy on

    Ask yourself what the response would have been had Howard Webb refereed a Man U V Liverpool game, giving a performance that was unbelievably biased to one of those sides and then heads out that night to celebrate with that clubs fans. He would have been suspended and would never referee another game involving any of those clubs.

  6. By the way, I re-watched the Cluj game because I am a sucker for pain.

     

     

    I didn’t realize Scott Brown was THAT bad in the game. The McGregor decision made us vulnerable and cost us the first goal but Brown is the biggest villain from that night.

     

     

    Before watching the game I blamed

     

     

    1. Lennon

     

    2. Brown

     

    3. Bain

     

     

    Now I’d switch 1 and 2

  7. What is the Stars on

    David 17

     

     

    Phil is bonkers,attention seeker …like most bloggers

     

    Amusing at times though

  8. From janefieldstreet.

     

     

    Aug 19 Celtic fans unite with Tom Boyd as media target former Celtic skipper

     

    Opinion, Media

     

    In a week that hasn’t been the greatest for Celtic fans, they have once again been united behind a common cause – the defence of former captain Tom Boyd after his comments on Celtic TV saw widespread faux outrage from Scotland’s pathetic excuse of journalists.

     

     

    Boyd, who was co-commentating on Celtic TV for the weekend’s Dunfermline cup clash, criticised referee John Beaton claiming that he ‘bottled’ a major penalty decision after he waved play on after the ball hit a Dunfermline player’s arm in the box.

     

     

    Boyd said: “That’s a penalty. It’s a penalty kick. His arms are up in an unnatural position and it’s a stonewall penalty. And once again, Celtic denied by decisions by the referee, and the referee has bottled that.

     

     

    “That’s an absolutely scandalous decision by John Beaton. What does John Beaton not know about the new rules? If he doesn’t know that’s a penalty he should not be in the middle of the park refereeing a football game. He’ll probably be welcome down his pub tonight again.”

     

     

    He added: “I’m not mystified. John Beaton, it’s obviously a pre-meditated decision not to give that penalty because it was so late in the game.”

     

     

    The hacks have the daggers out

     

     

    Rather than discussing the disgusting sectarian songbook and filth that emanated from the Dunfermline fans on Saturday, the hacks in this country have jumped on the comments of Boyd on Celtic TV. A channel for Celtic fans. A partisan channel for Celtic fans. It’s not like he sat in his first press conference as a club manager after drawing 1-1 claiming that his club had been on the wrong end of decisions for years or the club issuing a statement that the referee had ‘underlying issues’ to send one of their players off.

     

     

    It was an emotional comment from Boyd who saw a referee refuse to award a penalty despite the rulebook clearly stating that such an infringement should have seen a penalty awarded to the Scottish champions. A comment that has received the backing of a wide number of Celtic fans during and following the game. A comment that has merit when you take into account the plethora of decisions and the misconduct of referees and officials over the years.

     

     

    We’ve had a referee resign after not being awarded Category One status following a half assed disciplinary years earlier that saw him continue in his role despite posting sectarian and homophobic comments online. We’ve seen a referee request that his final game as a whistler to be at Ibrox – and who then to this day travels around the Rangers supporters clubs and lodges regaling the horde with his tales as a whistler. We’ve seen referees boast during supporters events that they denied Celtic goals, penalties, sent off Celtic players etc – whether it is playing to the crowd or not is another matter entirely but it fuels the continued theories that the men in the black are indeed anti-Celtic. We’ve seen a top flight referee lie to Celtic and its manager about the decision to reverse a penalty decision and a linesman who refused to lie to cover up the lie bullied by the Head of Referees Hugh Dallas forcing the former linesman out of the game. Before it all came out in the wash, leading to the referees strike and alleged blackmail from Dallas – who was caught sending anti-Catholic and jokes about the Pope via his Scottish FA email account – to call off the strike if disciplinary proceedings against him were dropped.

     

     

    We’ve seen comments from Steve Conroy – a self-confessed Celtic fan – who stated that there were very few Celtic fans as top level referees and in fact, couldn’t name another one. We’ve heard of Bobby Madden and John Beaton holding season tickets at Ibrox and of the latter attending a well known Rangers pub regularly and posing with Rangers fans – including the aftermath of a derby game at Ibrox where Beaton ignored FOUR violent conduct incidents by Alfredo Morelos on Celtic players. A game which Celtic lost. And we’ve seen referees swear and get in the face of Celtic players complaining about their decisions while others smile and joke with Rangers managers on the touchline after a late extra time goal minutes after looking glum at the same club conceding..

     

     

    We’ve seen the token ‘Celtic fan’ Neil Cameron – off the back of writing about his Granda not liking the Green Brigade banners despite being six feet under – refer to Tom Boyd’s comments as a disaster. And Keith Jackson calling Boyd an embarrassment. A bit rich coming from Traynor’s former tea boy whose career is now in freefall with the likes of Gary Ralston preferred by the Rangers PR Guru to produce copy from the emails he is sent.

     

     

    I’m sorry but no Celtic fan is going to listen to the hacks of this country criticising one of their former captains given what they have produced over the years. From the thugs and thieves headlines to reporting on Rangers death and an end to their history before doing a u-turn on the truth to safeguard the commercial interests of their dying rags and toeing the Rangers party line to keep their press access.

     

     

    Especially when the likes of Rangers club ambassador Derek Johnstone is giving a free pass to spout his bile every week on Radio Clyde – including criticising referees, Celtic players and much more without condemnation from the hacks.

     

     

    Last season, the media ramped up their campaign to stamp out sectarianism in our game after two incidents at Rugby Park involving Celtic and Rangers fans when Kris Boyd and Steve Clarke were targeted respectively. The Daily Record as a paper launched an anti-sectarianism campaign in the aftermath and which has promptly disappeared from view.

     

     

    They brush off the sectarian songbook and filth from Dunfermline fans near the Celtic family stand, rather focusing their diatribe instead on Tom Boyd criticising a controversial referee blatantly refusing to give Celtic a penalty that should have rightly been given.

     

     

    The only comment on their filth coming by the hacks came from Cameron on twitter, stating: “Dunfermline fans with more than a few anti Catholic chants today. Smashing stuff.”

     

     

    It was good enough to post on twitter but it wasn’t good enough for Cameron to mention it when writing his latest articles over the weekend? How his Granda would be ashamed to see him turning a blind eye to sectarianism.

     

     

    We saw the Scottish FA purposely refuse to hand referee Willie Collum a Rangers game in the aftermath of the Ibrox club issuing several statements and comments blasting the whistler and perceived bias against Rangers after he sent off Daniel Candieas during a game against St.Mirren. Comments that saw the club fined and warned about their future behaviour. Yet, it saw Collum pulled from officiating Rangers games UNTIL Celtic had won the league.

     

     

    Plenty was written by the hacks criticising Collum’s refereeing that day and over the years, yet when there is a clear refusal by the Scottish FA refereeing department not to hand him another Rangers game in over four months they remain silent. In fact, when he was finally awarded another Rangers game some even laughed it off.

     

     

    Not one Celtic fan will take any lessons from hacks who’s morals and opinions change depending on what way the wind blows and what way the money flows in from. Not one Celtic fan will take any lessons from hacks who published comments from Rangers – after the shameful scenes at Rugby Park earlier this month when their fans risked the safety of their own supporters by breaching the security gates and destroyed a disabled section’s roof – trying to blame Kilmarnock instead. They published their comments verbatim. Without opinion, without criticism, without the facts. After all they didn’t want to hurt their commercial interests.

     

     

    Tom Boyd is one of the few former Celtic players who fights for Celtic’s corner no matter what. He calls things how he sees them just like Chris Sutton does. While the likes of Andy Walker, Kris Commons and others are happy to take the blue pound to criticise and condemn Celtic and their players at every opportunity.

     

     

    And that is why Celtic fans would rather listen to the likes of Boyd and Sutton before the likes of Cameron, Jackson and English.

     

     

    So before we take any lessons from the media in the country, how about they support supporters calls for referees to disclose who they support, like referees do in England and beyond. And then impose a blanket ban on said referees officiating games involving the club they support or their rivals. Otherwise what are they hiding?

     

     

    It’s been a tough week for Celtic fans who have quite rightly criticised the club, the board, the manager and players over the defeat to Cluj resulting in being knocked out of the Champions League.

     

     

    But Boyd once again leads from the front and has united the supporters as one behind a common goal of condemning & outing dodgy refereeing decisions and combating the faux outrage from the poodles in the media.

  9. traditionalist88 on

    TIMALOY29 on 19TH AUGUST 2019 12:30 PM

     

     

    I said he did, albeit briefly, become more involved. No one said it was a hands on role for any period of time. But it had a little bit of an impact when they brought that guy in as manager after Deila.

     

     

    HH

  10. TRADITIONALIST88 on 19TH AUGUST 2019 12:49 PM

     

     

    I said he did, albeit briefly, become more involved. No one said it was a hands on role for any period of time. But it had a little bit of an impact when they brought that guy in as manager after Deila.

     

     

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    Desmond has appointed every Celtic manager since he’s been here. That’s not different in any way.

     

     

    It’s always been his call.

  11. Another week,no new faces,just reports we were “Pipped at the post”,Dear God,by Slavia Prague,I think for a player we were after.More misery ahead.Not in the best of moods today.2 weeks of problems with Celtic TV.Missed the Cluj game,and Motherwell game.After very numerous E-Mails,back and forth,to very helpful staff,they said they had found the problem.Gave me a new Password,and Log in name,saying justbuse these.Dunfermline game,no problem,had a wee try 20 mins ago,”INCORRECT CREDENTIALS”again.Nervous breakdown time.

  12. Paul67

     

     

    Hangover from Tuesday, is now a hangover from the game on Saturday.

     

     

    Some of the support even boycotting and some with no desire for Thursday Sunday football, who can blame them, between cost and let down.

     

     

    We’re now told we are restructuring the entire scouting system, a bit late in the day, and the debris of Congerton Rodgers ‘and how we operate’ at Celtic doesn’t look great, with make or break games coming thick and fast.

     

     

    Rabbits pull hat from CSC

  13. Prior to KT’s departure, our manager stated that he had ‘contingency plans’ for that eventuality.

     

    It is coming up for 3 weeks now. Where are the contingency plans?

     

    IniquitousIV

  14. traditionalist88 on

    TIMALOY29 on 19TH AUGUST 2019 12:52 PM

     

     

    Far from beyond the realms of possibility that he will intervene again in some way. Glad we have established that.

     

     

    Of course even if he did Lawwell could still survive it.

     

     

    Desmond may not be at CP much but occasionally things stir him into action like mouthy, celebrating huns.

     

     

    HH

  15. I read Phil’s comments today and dismissed them as quickly as they passed through my retinae. Phil claims to be a ‘journalist’ but use of words like ‘belief’ in a key point of investigative journalism just does not wash. For many months he claimed a key source in ( or close to) the Blue Room who fed him confidential information. The source is so hot that it could only have been one of a small circle. How was this source never identified and fed to the goats? I can reveal the identity of this source: his name is Harvey and he is a six foot three and a half inch, white rabbit. Despite some decent work in the past, Phil now is just an attention-seeking blogger looking for hits (to boost his income) …… and don’t get me started on failed junior footballer JohnJames.

  16. macjay1 for Neil Lennon on

    This issue has very little to do with Tom Boyd although Tom has been thrust into the spotlight.

     

     

    It is simply an effort to protect the continuing presence of Beaton in the SPL when his bias is becoming increasingly obvious .

     

    An example of Hun shoulder to shoulder.

     

     

     

    Any risk of Tim shoulder to shoulder ?

  17. Macjay@ 1:08

     

    I quite agree.Sneaky deflection by the MSSM.

     

     

    From earlier:

     

    “So before we take any lessons from the media in the country, how about they support supporters calls for referees to disclose who they support, like referees do in England and beyond. And then impose a blanket ban on said referees officiating games involving the club they support or their rivals. Otherwise what are they hiding?”

     

     

    If all the referees told the truth, we would need to import foreign ref`s for all Sevco games.

     

    JJ

  18. Celtic will “just miss out” on loads of big singings in the the next couple of weeks, then sign some dross.

     

     

    Deja vu.

  19. Hot Smoked

     

    Another reason not to buy this window, this is looking like make do and mend get a couple in we know about which looks like the Kilmarnock guys, I would not go spending major cash until we can identify scout and recruit properly. This is a disgraceful situation for a 100 million turnover football club, that this is the situation, the CEO should be fired not rewarded by a salary in the Millions plus bonuses, at the same time get rid of that renumeration committee which keeps giving him the pay rises and bonuses.

  20. Be very careful of this urge to ask referees what team they support. It will virtually exclude any budding referees ( including females ) that hail from the west of Scotland.

     

     

    We like to boast ” Their grandchildren will be Celtic supporters ” , but unfortunately they will be very unlikely to be a referee in that case.

     

     

    Surely we have learned that catch all scenarios are very often counter productive.

     

     

    As one who was brought up in the environment of ” What school did you go to ” I thought we were moving away from that.

     

     

    HH.

  21. BIGYINMILAN on 19TH AUGUST 2019 1:05 PM

     

    I read Phil’s comments today and dismissed them as quickly as they passed through my retinae. Phil claims to be a ‘journalist’ but use of words like ‘belief’ in a key point of investigative journalism just does not wash. For many months he claimed a key source in ( or close to) the Blue Room who fed him confidential information. The source is so hot that it could only have been one of a small circle. How was this source never identified and fed to the goats? I can reveal the identity of this source: his name is Harvey and he is a six foot three and a half inch, white rabbit. Despite some decent work in the past, Phil now is just an attention-seeking blogger looking for hits (to boost his income) …… and don’t get me started on failed junior footballer JohnJames.

     

     

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    Good old Harvey. I haven’t seen him for years. One for the older generation, I think :)

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