Ajax, Fenerbahce, Molde for Celtic

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It’s a return to to seed Ajax, which is a good football draw, although the Ajax fans and Amsterdam police make it an unwelcome tie for other reasons.

Fenerbahce lost their Champions League qualifier to Shakhtar Donetsk before beating Greek club Atromitos in the Europa League play-off round. There were no easy teams in pot three, Fenerbahce are about par for the group.

Molde beat Dinamo Zagreb and Standard Liege, so deserve some respect, they will fear no one in this competition.

Happy with the draw, it could have been a whole lot more difficult but as always, we have to arrive prepared as there are no hiding places in Europe.

GOLFERS!

There’s a chance to win a round of golf for four of you at the magnificent Aberdour course, scene of the annual CQN Open, for £1. Taggsybhoy has provided this opportunity, to raise funds to support the Celtic Foundation’s work. If you want to cheer yourself up after a hard week, read about the Foundation’s work here.

But after you’ve read that, get onto ebay here and enter the raffle. You’re even allowed to win it for a friend, so pile in.

A box full of backpacks, pencils and cups for Malawi just arrived at my office (thank you) ahead of tomorrow’s collection at the Celtic Way before the game. Remember to bring along your old backpacks, pencils and handtowels if you have any.

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  1. hankray on 28th August 2015 7:37 pm

     

     

    I am sure I saw a yellow card coming out the ref’s pocket when Rosenberg whacked Brown in the head, only for it to disappear when he realised he had a bet on not sending anyone off (griffiths included).

  2. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Roy, good post about the late Neil Mochan. Another whose contribution to Celtic can not be overstated.

  3. Not £5million for Soriano heard the fee is £3.5million Leverkusen are also interested and that could blow celtics bid out the water. Only thing is he wouldn’t be guaranteed first team football at Leverkusen

  4. CROPPYBHOY on 28TH AUGUST 2015 7:58 PM

     

    “The day we spend £5M on a 30 year old will be the day when a Mars Bar will cost £80 quid!”

     

     

    Not necessarily. Maybe when a mars bar is the size of a penny toffee. Not far off.

  5. Lawwell has to realise that as he continues the downsizing there is a point where we cannot fund his £1M/ year package.

     

     

    Lawwell has run Celtic ( into the ground ) since he replaced Ian McLeod in 2003. His failue to push the boat out for Fletcher in 2008 cost us the title and a whole lot more.

     

     

    As detailed in the annual report his compensation package is circa £1M/ year. So since 2003 he has taken approx £10M out of the club. He is the highest paid employee in Celtics history.

     

     

    He runs Celtic from top to bottom and has presided over back to back CL failures costing the club £50M in revenue.

     

     

    Instead of innovative growth we have a beancounter destroying the club from the inside. He meddles in all football matters and makes all final decisions.

     

     

    Lawwell is destroying Celtic and needs to be sacked.

  6. CROPPYBHOY on 28TH AUGUST 2015 7:58 PM

     

    The day we spend £5M on a 30 year old will be the day when a Mars Bar will cost £80 quid!

     

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    Some hotel room mini bars are heading that way already !

  7. skyisalandfill on

    Daily Telegraph calling Spurs’ group ( Monaco, Anderlecht and Quarabag) the group of death.

     

     

    Hmmmm.

  8. Loans can work for us if the player is brutal, and we have had a few of them, we don’t go through with signing them, problem for us if they are any good, the parent club say thanks for giving the player first team footy and for developing him. now GTF.

     

    I still believe there are many experienced players that would do a job for us for a season or two, get them on bosmans, and weigh in with decent wages.

     

    We will struggle in europe big time with the present squad, I reckon the league will be much tighter this season as well.

     

    HH

  9. We are an injury to leigh Griffiths away from having no strikers who the mamanger seems to rate

  10. the glorious balance sheet on 28th August 2015 3:07 pm

     

     

     

    Auldheid-

     

     

     

     

     

     

    The issue is not with how much money is spent, it is with how and when it is spent. That is not a matter of philosophical judgement on the question of living beyond your means or not, it is a matter of repeated poor judgement made by our highly paid executives.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    We were assured on this site last year that preparations for 2015 CL qualification had begun the minute we lost to Maribor. How could this truthfully be so when one quarter of our first team squad was made up of loan players who wouldn’t be here for 2015 CL qualification?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Ive no issues with there being a transition period when changing from one manager to the next, but by overloading the squad last year with 5 loanees, we extended this transition period into the following summer as well and you see the results now. The roof needed fixed last summer and we stuck a sticking plaster over it and feigned surprise when this gave way in a rainstorm.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    These loan signings cost around £2.5million in wages and prevented us from developing our own players in their position making us even less prepared for CL qualification. And then when we did sign a player for cash – Scepovic – we signed him after the most important game of the season, the manager clearly didn’t rate him, he never played him and he`s leaving at a huge loss.

     

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    I could not argue with any of that as I think we need to reduce the churn rate and loans don’t contribute that.

     

     

    However remember a reason we went the loan route (well three Balde, Pukki, Boerengitter) and that was to try before we buy.

     

     

    Experience of both buys and loans suggests we are poor at identifying players, whether loans or signings, which then points to the underlying problem.

     

     

    Why is that so? Is it we cannot identify what is a certain bet or that we can but so can our wage competitors and they can outwage us?

     

     

    That suggests looking where our wage competitors aren’t and that might be why we are looking at young Scots AND that young Scots are more likely to stay with us after they have developed so cutting down the churn factor.

     

     

    I’m guessing but if I’m right then the right questions are being asked inside Celtic, but it would be so much better if Celtic came out now and again to show they are a learning organisation rather then bloggers making educated guesses from what can be observed without knowing the reasons for it.

  11. There’s no point in anyone getting there hopes up about signing Jonathan Soriano, great player and scores goals for for fun but can anyone see Lawwell signing a guy who’s 30 next month even for a knock down price of £3.5 million ? No chance

  12. Despite reading the many negative comments about Tyler it’s not easy for any young player to make it at a club like Manchester United. Hopefully he proves as successful as Denayer, only this time we make him a peremenant fixture.

     

     

    I don’t mind the try before you buy strategy but we have to mix this up with bringing some established quality.

     

     

    Noticing talk of Soriano. Can’t see us spending £3.5 million + on 30 year old but he sure would put bums on seats.

  13. skyisalandfill on 28th August 2015 8:14 pm

     

     

    Naw! It cannae be true. We are in the group of death.

     

    Lawwell needs to get onto it first thing in the morning. We are in the group of death.

  14. Probably already been mentioned but thoughts on Kevin Nolan? Free transfer, hefty wage I’m sure but would add a bit of experience and also toughen up the midfield.

  15. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on

    TET

     

    That’s my evaluation as well. Hearts are on the crest of a wave and Aberdeen have improved too.

     

     

    Celtic on the other hand have got weaker…..I’m assuming the departure of VVD.

     

     

    Nor do I believe that Ronny Deila has improved us.

  16. Malmo had to rebuild the team but yet qualified for the Group stage for the second time on the trot with a cracking 32 year old center forward who frightened the bejay out of our defenders.

  17. Dallas Dallas where the heck is Dallas on

    Roy Croppie at 8.16. I can’t ignore him unfortunately.

     

     

    Even taking into account his presence, still one of my favourite days with our team playing in my favourite away strip of the last thirty years.

  18. latchford on 28th August 2015 8:12 pm

     

     

    Lawwell is working to a policy dictated by a Board that any CEO would have to comply with.

     

     

    If the policy is wrong then so is the guy charged with executing it.

     

     

    Its not a Lawwell issue its a POLICY issue.

     

     

    If we change the policy Lawwell might be the wrong guy to execute it in which case he is replaced by someone with a more relevant skill set to that policy..

     

     

    Before you can get a solution you have to identify the problem and if Lawwell was not following policy he would be removed and as he is not the issue is the policy NOT the CEO.

  19. ISLEY BHOY on 28TH AUGUST 2015 8:08 PM

     

    CROPPYBHOY on 28TH AUGUST 2015 7:58 PM

     

     

     

     

    “The day we spend £5M on a 30 year old will be the day when a Mars Bar will cost £80 quid!”

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Not necessarily. Maybe when a mars bar is the size of a penny toffee. Not far off.

     

     

    You never know your luck.

     

     

    I reckon that we have, against all advice, spent close to five million quid on a twenty seven or twenty eight year old injury prone binger called Boerrigter.

     

     

    I know that some will see a tinge of nastiness in it, However, I repeat my previous call for transparency about just who gets what from player purchases and sales. And not just at Celtic

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/ajax-fenerbahce-molde-for-celtic/comment-page-10/#comments

  20. I am Neil Lennon e El Juarez Bravo on

    If anyone thinks we’ll spend £3.5m on a 30-year-old, they’re dreaming. We might sign a player called Soriano but he’ll be a 19 year old ‘prospect’ from the second or third tier somewhere….

  21. e champs BCW

     

     

    What were your thoughts on Lenny first two years ? Bar a default it would have been two years without European football. But got Europa league second year making of his young team and then went into qualify for champs league. Ronny deserves a chance just like Lenny got. People have very short memories on here.

  22. BIG-CUP-WINNERS on 28th August 2015 8:21 pm

     

     

     

    TET

     

     

    That’s my evaluation as well. Hearts are on the crest of a wave and Aberdeen have improved too.

     

     

    Celtic on the other hand have got weaker…..I’m assuming the departure of VVD.

     

     

     

    Nor do I believe that Ronny Deila has improved us.

     

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    I hope others share this view in terms of competition because after watching Celtic hump ICT and Ross County and Dundee Utd with a 2nd choice team our biggest weakness will be complacency.

     

     

    It should be a much tighter league regardless. Bring it on.

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