Several news outlets are running with our name attached to a prediction that we will join one other club in the English football structure within five years. This prediction is little more than background noise and is not indicative of any initiative or plan. A Scottish club cannot ‘buy’ an English club, relocated them and work their way through the leagues without the prior permission of both the Scottish and English FAs.
The notion of clubs buying clubs is not worthy of your attention and you should none of this ‘information’ should be used to support share valuations.
Celtic’s future is inextricably linked to the futures of Scotland’s other senior clubs, all of whom need to plan for their futures. Background noise like this only makes creating the environment necessary to fulfil those plans more difficult.
The Wayside Club in Glasgow has been serving the homeless and destitute for 80 years. It survives exclusively by charitable donations and is the only homeless resource in Glasgow which is open 365 days a year, offering food, non-alcoholic drink, showers, a hair-cut, shaving facility, first aid and a friendly face to those living on the very brink of existence. For its patrons, it is an oasis of normality in a harsh and cold world.
To raise funds they are having an 80th Anniversary Gala Dinner at the Hilton in Glasgow on Saturday, 27th April. Individual tickets are available for £50 each, with tables of 10 also available. If you would like to attend email me, celtiquicknews@gmail.com, and I’ll put you in touch with inspirational volunteer, Tom Boyd senior.
If you can’t make it along to the night you can support the Wayside Club by donation at their VirginMoneyGiving page.
I know the generosity of CQN readers does not need to be stated but my sincere thanks to everyone who participated in the auction for a bottle of whisky yesterday. A stunning £1901 was raise. Nippy.
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Oh please charlie take the english fa to court . Oh please do . i also think celtic playing it grand not getting involved in his rantings. Although i would keep informing the hampden huns , we have logged every helping hand extended to them , just in case an invite comes our way to depart this corrupt set up . .i would also like to see a celtic presence when the msm.media are insisting on thems still being thems . We never have a counter view when they spout there support for the rangers , im sure some of our clever guys could tell it as it is .
Jimtim
oglach
13:03 on
25 March, 2013
Am i correct believing that the English football league system is basically a private members club and one has to be invited to join. Can the European courts force the aforementioned private members club to admit all and sundry! Is Chuckles barking mad or as crazy as a fox!!
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I sort of covered this earlier on TSFM as follows.
” Before I retired I was involved with a few high value purchases for IT services/ equipment that had to abide by EU Competition rules.
I formed the view then that the EPL was operating as a cartel that was challengeable under those rules, particularly as there are no borders in the UK making a favourable decision a non precedent for other European countries.
I assumed it had been looked at by both Celtic and Rangers but not pursued because the case would be lost.
However I now think it was because the devil both clubs knew was better than the one they did not and that UEFA might take action against both clubs for going to law.
Well the devil we now know is totally unattractive and CG’ s club have little to fear from UEFA whose position has also softened over time.
So I would be quite happy if CG takes the legal route because a victory opens doors that are unfairly closed and if it does not then compensation for being excluded can be sought.
Win, win.”
To which
stuartcosgrove says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 11:16
I agree Auldheid. We tend to forget that European legislation permits not only freedom of labour movement but also a fair and free market within company law, procurement and access to markets. It may well be that a case pursued by a Scottish company could challenge the current set up, after all it was the case of Morton’s Danny Diver and his dispute with the Belgian club R.R.C. Tournaisien in the late 1980s over player registration that contributed to the legal framework for the Bosman ruling. But there are exemptions e.g. in the arts where it is assumed that arts funding lies outside State Aid criteria. Might football be seen as exempt or might EU conditions of national subidiarity apply. So much to argue over it will not be a qucik fix and will not happen in Charles Green era that’s for sure. I think we may move to a twin track system where clubs are deemed as pan-European or local. I will be ‘shopping’ locally whatever the outcome.
And I went back with
stuartcosgrove says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 11:16
I would like to see the principle established in the UK because there are no borders as the rest of Europe recognises them. As a UK tax payer why should I not enjoy the same “advantages” of the same UK taxpayer in England in terms of the quality of player that can be attracted to my club?.
If the EPL were seen as acting against fair trade they need not necessarily have to open the doors but recognise the harm being done by such a policy and pay an annual compensation to the neighbours in the UK who are denied access.
Of course the irony of the political dimension will not be lost on anyone where a Scottish industry wants to merge with an English one for the greater benefit of all on the basis there are no borders under a UK Parliament, whilst at the same time the country in which that industry operates wishes to escape from that very Parliament on the grounds we are better off on our own. In that respect it will definitely not happen before Sept 18th 2014.
Where that freedom a legal challenge might take us is uncertain but I reckon it could lead to a UK league made up of one or more Central Divisions with regional leagues as feeders in and out. St Johnstone v Blackpool in a play off for entry into a Central division would be an attractive game for many reasons. The freedom to trade more widely would be an adrenalin shot to the heart of a game almost dead.
Of course if a more equitable way of disbursing TV money across Europe could be found then the playing field would level out, perhaps enough not to change existing structures.
How about the EU taxes TV football income at source across Europe and uses it first to pay off tax owed by clubs (and keeps public services going) then when back tax paid use it in lieu of all or part tax due from clubs annually? A user friendly form of tax in that it costs the tax payer nothing more and acts as a deflationary force on players’ wages.
We can have this.
A scene from hell where a visitor looks into one room and sees an emaciated group around a table on which is set a large pot full of stew. They cannot eat because their arms have been set straight at the elbow and elongated so that they cannot get a spoon in their mouths. It is a miserable place.
or this
upstairs the visitor enters a similar room with occupants similarly handicapped, but where everyone is well fed and contented. “How can this be?” he asks his guide. “Well downstairs all their energies are spent in the nigh impossible task of feeding their insatiable hunger, whilst up here they simply feed each other.”
I would love to see the crowd if Neil Lennon became their manager…
Strummertime
13:45 on 25 March, 2013
Guys, I only post when I need something!!!……a sad man that I am.
Anyway,looking for help in sourcing a EARLY Easter Vigil as close to ML5 as possible.
Been off the swally for Lent and need desperately to get to the public house asap.
Last time we did this I managed to get one in Blantyre @ 6.00pm.I dont think they are doing this on Sat but would love the help of the CQN community……anyone?? cheers
*Lent officially ends at midnight on the Wednesday of Holy Week, the folowing 3 days are know as the Paschal Triduum.
While I wouldn’t suggest you drink on Good Friday, Holy Saturday should be ok
RCIA CSC
winning captain
I received similar this morning. I pondered over sending another email to the BBC with the that the their site did not consider the McCulloch dive in The Rangers v Stirling 0-0 draw worthy of inclusion. It sometimes seems petty but maybe we should keep contacting Media organs, especially outside Scotland, pointing out the obvious bias on BBC Scotland productions.
JJ
On The Fans Against Criminality front I came across the following EU initiative that should be of interest to the folk on FAC (if they are not already aware).
There could be a timely report out sometime this year that might aid in the fight against Salmond’s Folly.
Background
In 2011, (a link to a long paper now follows for auld geeks with too much time on their hands)
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2011:0012:FIN:EN:PDF
the topics of good governance and of strengthening the organisation of sport in Europe were included as a priority theme for the implementation of the Preparatory Action in the field of sport. More than 50 organisations submitted an application in relation to this theme and 8 PROJECTS WERE SELECTED. Project activities started in early 2012; the results of the projects will be available in the first half of 2013 and will contribute to improved knowledge and dissemination of good practices regarding good governance of sport in Europe.
It was this one of the 8 that caught my eye
Pro Supporters – Prevention through empowerment
Reference: EAC/18/2011/066
Description of project [40 KB]
http://ec.europa.eu/sport/preparatory_actions/documents/annexe-i-066.pdf
Project:
Pro Supporters – Prevention through empowerment
Maximum grant: €199.745,89
and this extract gives a flavour:
Context of the project and identified problems:
The European Commission’s White Paper on Sport points out “Violence at sport events, especially at football
grounds, remains a disturbing problem and can take different forms”. Currently the dominant approach to
curb public disorder of young fans at sport events in most EU countries is reactive and contains repressive
measures like the tightening of security procedures {stadium bans). Usually such “anti-hooligan” measures
are implemented without consulting fans or other relevant stakeholders. Against this backdrop there is a need
to develop long-term social preventive measures in order to tackle football related violence and also to
address the underlying causes of violence around sport as it is strongly emphasized in Action point 21 of the
White Paper, implementation of “socio educational actions such as fan coaching (long term work with
supporters to develop a positive and non-violent attitude)”
The conclusions of the 2007 conference “Towards a European Strategy of Violence in Sport” highlight this
explicitly: “Clubs and other sport organisation shall be encouraged to implement the Supporter Charter
[which] sets up a platform for mutual dialog between clubs and supporters. Consideration given to supporters
as respectable partners of clubs can contribute to desirable process of supporters’ self-management and self
control”.
Pass it on.
Giving up the booze for LENT?
About thirty years ago,I gave up the fags for Lent.
First Friday I was out wi the troops,I realised I would have to give up the swally as well.
Impossible to have a pint without a fag!
It was a long six weeks,but I managed it. Got a huge buzz from my first fag,and the first few pints certainly hit the spot!
I was never so stupid as to do it again,and I raise my hat to everyone with the moral fibre to do it.
Good lads,all……….
meant Fans Against Criminalisation of course.
JUNGLE JIM
How’s the piles after your magnificent effort last weekend?
winning captains 14:53 on 25 March, 2013
Received a letter today from Advertising Standards Authority re complaint against The Rangers Football Club Ltd.
What word was your complaint about – “Rangers” or “football”? :-)
When does Sevco have to submit accounts?
I heard the Bishop of Liverpool (I think) last year on 5Live talking to Sheilagh Fogarty – he said that during Lent fasting was abandoned on Sundays and was supposed to be for the other six days only. I’m sure he said something along the lines that he could never have gone without a drink for the whole period anyway.
I remember laughing away whilst thinking that kind of information would have been useful a few years ago when I was more inclined to fast.
winning captains
14:53 on 25 March, 2013
which advert was that?
theweegreenman
15:37 on
25 March, 2013
When does Sevco have to submit accounts?
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Not sure what their accounting period is but the should be submitting financial information to the SFA by 30th April to get a club licence for next season. That is if they do not ask for and get an exceptional dispensation under a new addition to the rules for this year.
is this Harry Hood?
http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/218941-spl-facing-17m-damages-claim-from-firm-that-runs-angels-bar/
charles kickham
This company was advertising on Clyde1 during SSB claiming to be Scotland’s most successful club. As they were only founded in 2012 this is both false and misleading and the ASA investigate these matters when complaints are received from members of the public. They will contact this company and ask them to explain then will publish their findings.
Saint Stivs
14:59 on
25 March, 2013
has abromovich been arrested ?
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Apparently NOT.
Thanks Auldheid.
winning captains
15:56 on 25 March, 2013
Cheers – hadn’t heard about that one – does their delusion know no bounds
http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/opinions/why-rangers-chief-executive-charles-green-must-be-stopped/
Why Rangers chief executive Charles Green must be stopped
Charles Green believes Rangers are a bigger club than Newcastle, and are natural members of any European Super League. He is quite prepared to steal the identity of any English club craven enough to sell him their birthright, a place in the Football League. He is either a fool or a fantasist; either way, he must be stopped.
Green failed as chief executive at Sheffield United. As Rangers’ chief executive, he has reinvented himself as the man who is quite prepared to destroy Scottish football, even if that means leading the Old Firm to the promised land of the Blue Square Premier League, aka the Conference, in England.
There are several problems with today’s threat, given in an interview with the Mirror, to use European law to apply for refugee status, not least the notion that Celtic need any lessons in foresight and ambition from their Glasgow neighbours, whose last performance earned a plucky goalless draw with Stirling Albion at Ibrox.
Green’s presumption is an insult to proper football men – including current Rangers manager Ally McCoist, a realist whose loyalty to the club’s tradition and social importance has been admirable. It presupposes that English football is prepared to defy international statutes, and pay the price of dealing with cross-border complications. It is not, and probably never will be.
I do not doubt his claim that two English clubs have begged him to buy them, regardless of the consequences. Many, in the lower leagues south of the border, are growing tired of an unequal struggle for survival. Rangers were linked to a buy-out of League One relegation candidates Bury last year.
Green’s tactics are transparent. His threat was well timed, delivered as it was in the dead zone of an international break, when news agendas are uncluttered. At the very least, it will add impetus to his simultaneous attempt to bully Rangers back towards the top table in Scotland.
Yet his credibility has already been stretched to breaking point. Richard Scudamore, the Premier League chief executive, is implacably opposed to Scottish infiltration. He is unlikely to be impressed by a man who condemns Aston Villa as “completely useless”, and characterises Everton, a club of stature and substance, as a relative minnow.
Since Green bills himself as “an outspoken Yorkshireman” who “calls a spade a spade”, let us speak his language. To be blunt, if Rangers fans care about their club – and that is beyond debate, given their support for their team in the Scottish Third Division – they should drive him and his acolytes out of town.
Rangers belong to Glasgow. They may be football’s equivalent of a pavement busker, battering out a tune for loose change, but there they must remain.
Big Stuart 1888 @white_italy 10m
Why would Craig Whyte be appointed as a new board member of The rangers FC Group Limited on 21/3/2013. Last thursday? pic.twitter.com/w2qK3KWuhd
Retweeted by Joliet Jake
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2298883/Premier-League-dog-football-fans–Final-12-announced.html
Votes are required to get the Tim dug the top dog prize!
LB
Afternoon all. Back in still snow-bound North Ayrshire. (Heard today on BBC Scotland that the weather on Friday was a once in 2 hundred year event: can well believe it.)
Was up in Glasgow today for among other things buying my ticket for the semi-final. Much to my surprise I find my name has been written on it. This is the first time I have ever experienced this. Is this at the insistence of the polis, in order to keep tabs on the Green Brigade? If so, a very worrying development. Have they the right to demand this. The girl in the TO didn’t ask for my name but it was on my season ticket and credit card with which I paid; so, she obviously took it from those.
NotahappybunnyCSC.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21924420
yes – bbc confirm – it is Harry Hood
strummertime
13:45 on
25 March, 2013
Guys, I only post when I need something!!!……a sad man that I am.
Anyway,looking for help in sourcing a EARLY Easter Vigil as close to ML5 as possible.
Been off the swally for Lent and need desperately to get to the public house asap.
Last time we did this I managed to get one in Blantyre @ 6.00pm.I dont think they are doing this on Sat but would love the help of the CQN community……anyone?? cheers
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Strummer Easter vigils must take place during the hours of darkness so probably earliest one will be about 7 or 7:30.
Not sure how yu got a 6 o’clock Easter vigil last year, was it a Catholic one :))
Winning captains. Letter received from ASA today confirming investigation and e-mail acknowledgement received a couple of weeks ago.
BMCUW
I am fine, thanks and the only `piles` were the `piles` of money we made for Wee Oscar 0:-)
Remarkable weather conditions but, now that it is all over, all the more memorable for that.
JJ
Parkheadcumsalford
16:16 on
25 March, 2013
All away tickets are allocated with names for each ticket when booking online so I f I , my brother or wife create havoc at the game they know who is was from the booking and can act accordingly.
Its not some sinister issue its normal practice for season ticket holders as well.
Same at any club I have bought tickets from directly like Kilmarnock for example.
RobinBhoy
estorilbhoy
That`s three of us, at least. Will be interesting to see the outcome.
JJ
tomtheleedstim
16:10 on
25 March, 2013
Big Stuart 1888 @white_italy 10m
Why would Craig Whyte be appointed as a new board member of The rangers FC Group Limited on 21/3/2013. Last thursday? pic.twitter.com/w2qK3KWuhd
Retweeted by Joliet Jake
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Tom
C T Whyte is usually the da Craig Thomas White. However, the entry run shows him appointed in 2011 but no entry showing he left office.
Appointed twice??
HH
Parkheadcumsalford
The club know who supporters are at home games based on season ticket or by client code. Have bought tickets in club shops a couple of times and always had to fill in a form to say who was using each ticket I bought.
I presume this is just an extension of this to cover away games (and hampden) so as if anything untoward happens, the club will know who is sitting in that seat and action can be taken as necessary.
Mort
Whyte , then Green, were spotted in Heathrow T5t, not together, but minutes apart, couple of fridays ago.
As Mel might say “coincidence, i dont think so”
lol
Paul Caddis added to the Scotland squad.
he should walk into the team. Might be an idea to add some St Mirren players to the squad. They are absolutely flying right now.
On another note former Celtic player Paul Slane maybe worth selection. He seems to be scoring abroad these days if Twitter is to believed.
LB
Mort – have emailed you mate.
Row Z – just passing on the tweet mate. Can’t vouch for its authenticity.
Would love to see the bold CW enter the fray again though. He’s been too quiet.
Re the Wayside Club
If you want to make at donation or can provide a auction or raffle prize, please email Paul67 with that as well.
There are some great auction prizes on the day including a four ball with the captain who stopped 10 in a row.
We have some great guys and ghals on this site so we would appreciate all your help.
Kikinthenakas
RobinBhoy & Mort,
Thanks for the replies. I understand what you are saying. I still feel it odd. I have no idea how many tickets I have purchased from the TO in the past but I can’t ever recall having my name written on one before today.
By the bye, Mort, good to hear from you. Hope you and the family are well. I imagine your weather lately has been as bad as it has been here.
I am stupid, and ive been duped, its offcourne not the same CT Whyte, its just an admin error.
hhehhehehehehhehe