Breakthrough day for Yang and Palma

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Three goals after the 90-minute mark is a first for Celtic, as Aberdeen’s afternoon turned from a respectable-looking 2-0 deficit at 76 minutes, to a washout by fulltime.  More on the visitors later.  This was a breakthrough day for Celtic’s Yang and Luis Palma.

Palma hit the byline and crossed with his left on 9 minutes, this is noteworthy.  When on the left, Luis normally looks to drop the shoulder and cut inside.  It is his classic play; consider his goal against Motherwell and the disallowed effort against Lazio.  The trouble is, defenders know this is what he likes to do, so are ready for it.

If he can regularly hit the byline and cross with his left, he will be even more effective cutting inside, as defenders would have to cover both options.  This is the classic John Robertson play, cut inside for a shot (Hamburg), hit the byline and cross (Malmo).  Luis added a third option, crossing from a deeper position with the outside of his right foot, for Oh to complete the rout.  This demonstrated his fondness for his right and where the main development gains are to be made.

Yang Hyun-jun (21), got his landmark first goal for Celtic (see above left foot cross by Palma), even before this, he was a handful for the Aberdeen defence.  So far this season, competition for space on the Celtic wings has been tough.  Yang has had to wait for sporadic opportunities.  Injuries to Abada and Maeda will see us lean on the young Korean during the busy period after the international break.

We will have a feel for his potential by Christmas.  That blast of pace he has over 5 yards – and the ability to take the ball with him – is something no one else at the club can match.  The material is there for Celtic to develop.  Injuries have provided a pivotal moment in the development of Celtic players before, think of Leigh Griffiths’ injury in Augst 2016 which opened the door for Moussa Dembele.  The wide-right jersey is up for grabs for the next six weeks, Yang has his stage.

I spent much of the second half wanting Aberdeen’s Rubezic to get a second yellow after his awful ‘challenge’ on Kyogo, which VAR should have adjusted to a straight red.  This was tempered after I looked up Aberdeen’s next fixture.  Being Aberdeen manager is not for the faint hearted.  They kept Celtic out for an hour between the second and third goals, on that hill, Barry Robson has to build his fort.

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  1. That time of year when people who ‘honour the sacrifices to attain freedom’ go apeshit because they can’t force everyone else to do as they would like…

  2. I have never quite understood our northern Irishmen managers who grew up during the troubles but will appear on TV or at the match wearing poppies

     

     

    Maybe if you had relatives who served in the wars. But beyond that why would you choose it.

     

     

    Martin gave a brilliant retort to that Simon Jordan other week there about the bravery of McClean and why someone from Derry would not wear a poppy.

     

     

    But then he does himself.

     

     

    Just a puzzle.ent for me.

  3. King Lubo and others

     

    Of course you have a right to wear a poppy and also observe a minute’s silence for all those lost in wars. But then so do others have the same right not to wear a poppy and, while I don’t agree with it, not to observe a minute’s silence before a football match. I think for most people the issue of ‘poppy mania’ I’m not including you or most others who wear it sticks in people’s throats. Not that they wear one but that they insist that everyone does regardless of history and background and beliefs. Surely ‘hard won victories’ are all about allowing everyone be allowed to wear or not wear and observe and not observe.

     

    I believe that James McLean said that when he looked into the wearing of a poppy on football shirts, he was amazed that it commemorates all those who served in the British armed forces since 1914, as confirmed to him by the Royal British Legion, so for him he cannot wear one, but as he has said on numerous occasions, others can do so if they wish.

     

    So for Irish people this includes commemorating those involved in ‘putting down’ the 1916 Uprising, the killing of civilians, the shelling of the centre of Dublin by a Royal Navy gunship, the torture, extrajudicial killings of combatants and non-combatants alike, the burning and destruction of homes and businesses in Cork, Balbriggan etc., during the War of Independence, the murder 11 unarmed civilians in Ballymurphy (including a priest administering the Last Rites to a dying man) the murder of 14 unarmed civilians in Derry in 1972, the list goes on and on. Then look at Burma, Kenya, Afghanistan, Iraq, the list is endless. For most people the commemoration of those who died in WWI and WWII would be ok but not for the others who quite literally massacred their way across the globe from 1916 until the present time. As James McLean discovered the ‘commemoration’ is for all who served, not just those who were killed, for more than a century.

     

    Lastly why the need for football clubs to display poppies on their shirts? I ask because I watched the Leinster v. Dragons match on Sunday and while there was a short moment of silence none of the Dragons players had poppies on their shirts. For me, commemorate and wear your poppy but don’t force or expect others to do the same at sporting grounds or anywhere else outside of official commemoration events or sites.

  4. Prestonpans bhoys on

    MCPHAIL BHOY on 13TH NOVEMBER 2023 4:40 PM

     

     

    Some very excellent points in that post 👏👏

  5. Saint Stivs – I thought the same about thems waving the poppies when I watched it. They really are moronic.

     

     

    Glad we’re passed it for another year. Ranks up there with International Breaks as my least favourite time of the season.

  6. Re the young pitch invader who was pushed with force over the hoarding and into the crowd.

     

    Whilst not condoning his actions in any way, Can someone enlighten me as to the legal powers that these stewards may have ?

     

    A serious injury or even worse could have happened, then all sorts of mayhem would / could have broken out.

     

     

    HH

  7. Prestonpans bhoys on

    Rangers have announced an operating profit of £252,000 🫣

     

     

    This is like last year before tax etc. It actually was a near £1m loss. So the loss this year will be much much more, my guess £5-6 m 😊

  8. John Paul Dykes (ACSOM) mentioned something about Kris Boyd and Aberdeen laying down to Rangers. Can anyone clarify what that’s about? Cheers.

     

     

    T

  9. King Lubo

     

     

    “remember the lives sacrificed so that we are not all speaking German now. All I’m saying”

     

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    You been tuning in to GB News again.

     

     

    First of all- I have been learning German these past 3 years. Speaking German ain’t a problem.

     

     

    The countries of Eastern Europe were occupied by The Soviets for almost 50 years yet they all speak their own language.

     

     

    I disapprove of fans undermining our observation of the minute’s silence too but your point about the Poppy on the Shirt is just wrong. This is a Ploughman’s lunch tradition- it was invented in 2010, when 95% of the WW2 participants were dead. It was an imposed observation therefore it is meaningless as a mark of respect. Conscripted veneration- being told what or who to value- is exactly what we were fighting against in WW2, (not speaking German).

     

     

    God knows what the values being defended in WW1 – the war between 3 cousins- was about. Mostly about preventing Germany exploiting any more of Africa because the Brits wanted to keep their monopoly there.

  10. Good evening, friends.

     

    Delighted that folk responded to my plea for a record turnout although we’re not quite there yet. A dozen more emails should make yesterday’s game the best supported this season. So, even if you’ve never participated before, stick 3 players’ names in 1 email and fire it off before 10pm tonight to SENCELPOTY@GMAIL.COM .

     

    Thanks for your opinions.

  11. Hot smoked

     

     

    “No one will alter my opinion.”

     

     

    I think that applies to most people most of the time.

  12. British/German relations on the African continent? ‘An Ice Cream War’ by William Boyd. Well worth a read.

     

     

    T

     

     

    Ps it’s not intentional my posts today both mention a Boyd.

  13. Gene

     

     

    ““No one will alter my opinion.”

     

     

    I think that applies to most people most of the time.”

     

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    If our opinions and views were immutable and not open to persuasion there would be no such things as advertising, Electioneering, Facebook, GB News, Twitter Bots, and right-wing billionaires siphoning off their money to command control of most Propaganda/News outlets and platforms.

     

     

    Our minds are relatively easily changed. Ask any PR consultant or Psychologist.

  14. Celtic SHould have put on the big screens,we remember all who lost there lives in two world wars ,

  15. Don’t get the Huns making a big issue with the poppy ,I’m led to believe during the war they all worked in the shipyards ,they are really two faced people .

  16. SFTB

     

    I’ve been on here for many years and have yet to see any examples of big changes of views apart from maybe opinions about players.

     

    If you’re right I look forward for a large conversion to the Tory party on here when Rishi turns the country round.

  17. Timbhoy

     

    Perhaps the advertising boards should have displayed the ex Celts who lost their lives in wartime.

     

    Think I saw this at an English game.

  18. Big Jimmy from previous thread, Riley’s game was off yesterday.

     

     

    Thanks for asking after him.

     

     

    Hope you are well.

     

     

    D : )

  19. At this time of year I recommend Ian McCallums Series of books

     

     

    The Glasgow Irish Celtic and the great war.

     

     

    Incredible body of work and a real deep dive into the period 1914/18 season by season.

     

     

    Maley a real recruitment sergeant.

     

    O shaunesy raising a battalion.

     

    War games and trench demonstrations.

     

     

    Our wounded honoured at Celtic park.

     

     

    Patsy suspended for leaving the yard early for a game.

     

     

    McMaster walks from Edinburgh barracks to play.

     

     

    The parish for garngard at one point has near 400 Glasgow Irish serving.

     

     

    A suggestion that Celtic European tours had maley reporting back German war preparations

     

     

    Complex and compelling.

     

     

    Get them on the Christmas list.

  20. GARYGILLESPIESHAMSTRING

     

    I’m sure he was raging at Dundee after their embarrassing defeat by sevco.

  21. FFS, it’s all about respect and remembrance of those who sacrificed everything, and I mean everything.

     

     

    WW2 for example, just think about it, being at war for 6 fekkin years, yeas, 6 years.

     

    Empathy and a bit of decency please.

     

     

    But just so long as Strictly gets a proper winner, eh

     

     

    I give up

  22. Good to see the Sevco mgr knows how VAR works in Scotland as per BBC.

     

     

    “Rangers manager Philippe Clement: “We deserved to win, that’s clear. [VAR] is a very important thing for me – there are less mistakes. In general the game is more honest, so I’m a huge favourite of VAR.”

     

     

    Your club certainly are a huge FAVOURITE of VAR. That is a problem when it’s meant to be neutral.

     

     

    Do Sevco managers get media training in how to troll?

     

     

    QB

  23. Gene

     

     

    “If you’re right I look forward for a large conversion to the Tory party on here when Rishi turns the country round.”

     

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    That would not be a forecast I would make.

     

     

    If you haven’t noticed – there has been a massive shift rightwards since the 80. The guys investing in the media platforms and bot farms think Rishi Sunak is a pinko communist liberal elite, unlike the horny handed son of the soil that are. Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, Trump or Suella.

     

     

    That has happened because money has bought influence and blaming your personal woes on a minority group plays well as a trope in voting.

     

     

    The Tories are no longer backed by this group- they are looking to Farage, Reform, Skip and the EDL and they will lie and misrepresent and be effective. Read what Dominic Cummings says about how you influence an election. You aim for the heart and emotions not the head and intelligence. You keep the message simple-

     

     

    it’s a global elite (most probably Jewish or Communist)

     

    It’s the fault of those damned foreigners/ Jews/Muslims

     

    It was better in the past when people like you and me were like minded (it’s Downton Abbey nostalgia and the Ploughman’s Lunch Poppy and Fascist reverence of the military)

     

     

    We all have a conceit of ourselves as immune to influence. We are all heroes of independent thought in our own mind but there is a hundred years plus of experiments showing how we can influence people physiologically and mentally

     

     

    https://studyonline.port.ac.uk/blog/famous-psychological-experiments

     

     

    There are thrawn individuals who are harder to “imprint” views on but there’s no one who has never been fooled by consensus. Including you and I.

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