BT’s successful £897m bid for UK Champions League and Europa League rights is one of the most significant commercial developments for Celtic in years – if we continue to qualify for the Champions League group stage.
This money, £299m per season, more than double the current deal, is paid directly to Uefa. What participating teams receive is directly linked to the value their domestic TV rights raise. If Scottish clubs participate, they earn 10% of the UK distribution.
Scottish Premiership TV rights are currently shared by BT and Sky but they are worth a fraction of what they went for the last time a competitor (Setanta) made a genuine challenge to Sky. It would literally take loose change from BT’s budget to remove Sky from the required list of providers for Scottish football fans. Whatever the next SPFL deal looks like, having two major players bidding should ensure it is worth a lot more money.
The same is true for English football rights. 20 years ago Sky built their UK business on the back of English Premier League broadcast rights. If BT want to supplant them in the TV market, enhance their ISP position and secure a lead in the emerging services on-demand market, English Premier League rights will be the major battleground.
BSkyB share prices is down around 10% today, reflecting the reality that they will either have to pay a whole lot more for the same rights in future, or they risk losing market share. I’d be very happy to dump Sky, which has recently resembled a tax on committed Scottish football fans without the corresponding revenue spend.
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Garngad to Croy
12:35 on
11 November, 2013
BT won’t be going bust due to this. They potentially control the delivery medium and the content. Who’s to say whether they will even maintain the channels on satellite that they have now? Come 2015 they could make it internet only to BT broadband customers.
No doubt encouraged by the huge numbers that have signed up to get BT Sport free. Myself included.
Seems Paul & I were thinking on the same lines. Maybe it’s 75 degrees in Lanarkshire today as well :)
The new BT rights deal for the Champions League is interesting. What does it mean though for whoever represents Scotland should they get to the group stages. This is what UEFA say about the distribution of the TV market pool money, which is where the BT money will be allocated from.
“Monies from the market pool were divided according to the proportional value of the national TV market allocated to each individual club, among other factors. As a consequence, the amounts given varied from country (or national association) to country.”
Last season Celtic and Arsenal got the same number of points . Man Utd also got to the last 16 ,however no British club got beyond the last 16. They all departed the competition at that stage , so we should be able to draw a conclusion based on their respective TV Pool money for last year, as to what it might mean moving forward.
Last year the 5 British clubs earned roughly €80 million from the market pool of which Celtic got €8 million. So as near as makes no difference 10% is paid to the Scottish Representatives in the group stage. The new deal is more than double the current one , so it’s reasonable to expect that the market pool could be worth an extra €8 million a year to the Scottish representatives.It isn’t quite as straightforward as that, however its a decent assumption.
It also means SKY will have some very very high profile slots to fill. They will need other rights to replace a flagship product. This may be a catalyst for some form of competition involving Scottish & English teams. Whats certain is you won’t replace the Champions league with any sport other than football, and the obvious choice is to look at the biggest draw available. You can rule out foreign leagues, as even with Barca & Madrid, the viewing times for La Liga , mean audiences are weak.
If you were Sky , who would you talk to ? Who has a high high profile in the UK, and who will bend over backwards to accomodate ANY time slots you want ?
BOURNESOUPRECIPE
I firmly agree that our percentage of their income is treated with disdain.
England is by far where they are oriented,Scotland represents <10% of the population,and of that,we are about 1in 6 of the demographic.
If we all chucked Sky,I reckon it would be around 150,000 customers. Maybe £120m a year. It's peanuts in their terms.
They look at the big picture and consider us as potential churn. Irrelevant.
That is why I have long thought that Scotland should have its own stand-alone channel where the profit us shared by the clubs. One live match per weekend,full delayed transmission from Monday of the other Premier matches and an extended highlights package from the other leagues.
Programming to be filled out with "magazine" programming,history lessons from when Scottish football was a force,etc.
Tenner a month? £18m a year based on the above. Bargain compared to how much we have to pay to watch utter dross in the EPL and elsewhere.
BSR – final salary or stakeholder?! :-)
SOAL – unlike you, cherry intact!
TT – what about a St George’s flag?!
T4
TINYTIM
Can you mail me your number on
bmcuwp@gmail.com
please. I spoke to him a coupla times over the weekend,but not for the blog.
Barcabhoy.
I’m sure uefa dictate which games can be televised coinciding with cl slots.
Topical article Paul 67,
Reading back over the last thread, I too would like to hear PL’s perspective for the future of Celtic. What are we actually doing (If anything ) to have us playing in a setting more befitting of our status.
I think the times are changing :- The EPL has gone stale and could do with an exciting stimulus i.e. Us.
It would now seem from 2015 that all Sky’s eggs are in the one basket; ref the EPL. It is just possible that they may need us as much as we need them and Sky could become a very welcome ally.
Currently and no doubt worryingly for Sky, there are just too many boring games in England, many involving teams with no TV appeal outside their own little bubble.
Sky is in the business of generating interest in its flagship product and viewing figures are paramount to them.
Celtic would guarantee to freshen up the product, generate interest and boost viewing figures.
Regarding the on-going debate about signing a top class striker rather than a project. It should be acknowledged that many in the game regard playing in Scotland as a backward step. It really is that simple; More eloquent posters than myself have elaborated why it is so difficult to attract quality players no matter what monetary incentives we offer.
We are a massive club hindered by Geography. The BT deal may unintentionally open a window for us that could see us joining the 20% of non English clubs in the EPL which is actually a BPL.
Another obvious bonus would be if and when some form of “Rangers” reincarnation finally arrives in the top flight of Scottish football they would find “The bird ( With the riches ) has flown the nest”
HH, Always in Celtic.
OldTim67
Will be up tonight, I’ll call you after work.
Get baking!!!! :-)
Garngad to Croy 12:35 on 11 November, 2013
C.
Unlike Setanta, BT will not go bust because they have far greater resources than Sky and are not overstretching themselves to compete.
Sky are definitely not in cahoots with BT. They see BT as a major threat and tried to stop them using Sky’s TV frequencies to show the games. BT had to go to court in July to get the go-ahead.
eddieinkirkmichael
12:51 on
11 November, 2013
How long have Ajax had their youth academy on the go, and how long have we?
I saw somebody write the other day that it took 20 years for Barcelona’s to really start delivering. Lennoxtown has been open for 6.
“The International Centre for Sports Studies puts the number of professionals operating in Europe this season that came through the Ajax academy at 69 and the club’s future on and off the pitch seems to pivot around the continued success of the production line. Regularly allowing a young crop to represent the club at first team level rather than be shunted to the margins by over-priced foreign imports could be as crucial to the team’s success on the pitch as it is off it.”
Weeminger.
The players we develop are already delivering, albeit for other spfl teams.
The better our opposition, the better our team.
Hopefully more players will start coming through.
I would like to see what Atajic can do in the first team.
Messi out for 8 weeks.
Hard times —–
Just heard a spokesman for the Affiliation of AC Milan supporters say this on national radio.
” the team has no form, no game,no shape, no tactics, no soul, no spirit and no leadership.Allegri has to go and he has to go today.”
Messi out for 8 weeks.
They beat ajax next match we beat Milan! Barca qualified when we play them last match.. We pull off a 1-0 win away at nou camp! Job done! Last 16 beckons again!!lol
bournesouprecipe
12:09 on
11 November, 2013
Malcolm’s message – Win with Winnie
Winnie wasnt even Prime Minister in 39.
They know so little.
I wonder what school he went to.
No surrender indeed.
I despise Rupert Murdoch and all he stands for so I never put any money into anything that he has a share in. Any alternative to Sky is very welcome.
I cancelled this on Saturday –
Saint Stivs
15:28 on
9 November, 2013
and onto more serious matters.
I JUST CANCELLED SKY SPORTS and the Movies and went back to the basic package (until i can get the time to change over completely to BT or Virgin).
How difficult it is to reduce what you want to receive from them, cant be done on line so had to phone.
After a good 10 mins of the guy trying to persuade me to remain,
dont you watch the movies sir, we can do them half price for a full year ?
no sorry, i dont get the time to watch them.
doesnt your kid watch the disnay channel and the movies sir ?
no sorry, she sees all her favorites on you tube, its great for that, on her tablet,
are you not a football fan sir, what about the champions league games, and the premiership ?
och, i can get whatever i want for free now on BT, your losing out there its too expensive.
and then the rant started ……………….
and to be honest, i hate the way skysports has portrayed my club , celtic, as somehow being at fault for our fans being attacked by an out of control police force in amsterdam this week, and i hate the dishonesty of your channels reporting on the new club rangers , because its just wrong ……….
ok sir i get your point let me look at it, putting you on hold …………
2 mins later ………
ok, sir we can reduce your package to the basic …………..
ok, and i want you to mention as well the reason i cancelled, Jim White, he is a sneering not for for purpose ……..
i got cut off.
lol.
BMCW
ref BARCAMOLE
Hi had a few in town on Saturday with him.
he is a way back to the Philippines to-day, he has had reports back to say that his home has been badly damaged,thankfully everyone is safe.
Hail Hail
weeminger
12:57 on
I saw that post aswell mate ;).
I worry that through pressure from fans, look at the debate just now re spending £5+ on a striker, any increase in revenues will be spent on the playing front that ultimately wont guarantee any extra success in Europe.
As we have seen with Vic, Hooper etc, the guys we bring in from abroad use us as a stepping stone and leave at the first opportunity.
Young talent from here are more likely to stay an extra couple of years as they family support etc, McGeady is an example of this.
Lennoxtown, as was mentioned in the earlier post, wont do this in isolation. Scotland as a country needs to train hundreds, if not thousands of coaches, to develop the sport. That’s what happened in Spain.
I read an article in some Euro football mag a while ago where they stated that Spain had 10x the amount of trained registered coaches than England has.
We have all witnessed the youth coaches in this country, where terms such as “get it up the f###ing park” is the only tactical knowledge possessed by significant numbers of those involved in our youth game.
Teams such as Hibs and Dundee Utd appear to be on the right track re coaching and lets hope that the SFA continue putting money into developing our youth game.
Paul,
Do you think the Sky/BT battle and threat to Sky influence the chances of an Atlantic type League or joining the English leagues which we crave or at the very least need to do? Can’t but hope Sky will come back or try to hard. Getting us into the Championship or Prem would be a big talking point and increase interest. Sky have lost plenty of battles in their time but very few wars!
Saint Stivs
Indeed, Indeed
That 49 second interview was an brief explanation of why they died, are remain dead.
are = and
Isn’t it about time we went back to our roots though? I mean Ajax aren’t the best club we have played against over recent years but at the AA they certainly were better than us with a team who’s average age is 22 and full of ‘Home Grown Players’, surely given the investment we put up for the Academy we should be seeing some really good results coming through by now.
eddieinkirkmichael
13:11 on
11 November, 2013
As The Honest Mistake points out we are producing SPL quality players, but Celtic quality player is above that, and so they’re taking a wee bit longer to come through.
Patience. :)
Paul 67
I think there is a different perspective on the BT deal.
That additional money going to SPFL winners would be the death knell of our game unless it was simply used to increase wages of the existing standard of player (who are already much better than the existing competitors) and I doubt anyone would think that a good idea.
Sorry but that sort of money BT are willing to pay has to be spread amongst all SPFL clubs but with aim of improving the quality not doubling the wages of existing quality.
It is a challenge but surely even BT can see the impact on the sporting element if if that money just ends up stoking player wage inflation and that is what it will do even with FFP.
There has to be a serious rethink about the damage football is capable of doing to itself. It is an interdependent industry that relies on competition, not a commercial enterprise where putting the competition out of business and taking their customers is the norm.
EU law is predicated on this norm, but strict adherence to it and failure to recognise the true nature of the business of football will kill the business, so the law needs to be examined to see where it is having the opposite effect of that intended for the commercial world on football and then changed to bring about what is good for football under the specificity of sport argument.
To paraphrase a Queen song. “Too much loot can kill you”
Carry on Dick – Channel 4
Roger Daly CSC * ha ha harrrrrrr Sid James type laugh *
In the UEFA Youth League the young Celts beat Ajax 4-1 at home and lost 1-2 away. They were the better team in the away match and missed 2 penalties. So perhaps our Academy is not so bad. I think it’s a matter of our young players not being given a chance in the first team, or not so often.
the kirkie Tim
13:17 on
11 November, 2013
Ajax give their youngsters a chance in the first team to play, develop and improve. We don’t. We would rather bloat our squad with cheap foreign imports, loanees etc or bring in youngsters from abroad and give them the opportunities out own don’t get.
the kirkie Tim
13:17 on
11 November, 2013
There’s two facets to this:
1) Ajax have had a top level youth academy for decades. It’s not just about throwing money at it, it’s about learning to recognise all the traits that allow a youngster to step up, and that takes time.
2) As I mentioned above Barca took about 20 years to start properly producing. Do you think that’s due to putting less money in than we are? Probably not.
I’ve found that most top youth academies don’t actually average a production rate of 1 first team regular per season. Although admittedly my research was pretty limited.
A bidding was for EPL tv rights will harm CFC
we don`t need these EPL minnow clubs to get even more money
Was asked a quiz question last night (eventually got it right i think),there are only 2 Scottish players with more than 300 EPL appearances? Cue 14 right answers ,but might pass a bit of Monday time.
weeminger
the UK`s strict approach to non EU immigration hampers CFC`s academy
Guys since Paul McStay retired in 1997 no player has come through our ranks and played their career with us! That’s a pretty shocking statistic! In terms of coming through and establishing yourself as a successful mainstay of the team for an extended period am I right in thinking McGeady and Mick are the only ones?
Kayal33
13:21 on
11 November, 2013
Ajax aren’t expected to win the Eredivisie every single year and their fans accept that bringing through the youth might result in a barren season and don’t desert in their droves.
Would ours? I’m not confident.
Wish we had a decent national broadcaster and do our own deal. Then again we would be relying on some of this mob.
Brian McNally @ McNallyMirror 10m
Just as well #Celtic websites & fans groups +Dutch media & politicians are probing Amsterdam cop brutality as Scottish media largely impotent
!!Bada Bing!!
Darren Fletcher