The most important aspect about team plan for tonight will be the balancing act between aggression and discipline. Celtic need to get in about Legia without losing discipline. Legia roped us in perfectly last week. A buoyant home crowd fed off meaty challenges but when the red mist rose, they adopted choir boy looks. We didn’t.
Celtic need to disorientate Legia in a similar way; get physical, expect the same back, but remain in control of events. Efe Ambrose’ red card was critical to the outcome of the game in Warsaw, let’s work on their less-controlled players to see if we can tempt them into a similar fate.
An early goal would be nice but it it’s not necessary. 90 minutes is a long time to defend a lead and we should remember how last year Shakhter Karagandy kept things tight for 44 minutes before losing 3-0. If we can’t get an early goal it’s just as important to get Legia chasing the ball and making tackles.
Legia’s first half game plan will be to keep it tight frustrate the crowd. If there’s little penetration in the opening period we need to stick with the players, give them encouragement whenever possible – this works.
Beside our normal game plan there are a couple of objectives we should be looking for:
Get into the box. Despite having limited possession, Legia did this perfectly last week. If you’re in the box you force defenders into committing to challenges they would rather not. Make getting into the box a territorial objective and we’ll get a penalty. Or two.
Shoot often. Both our goals away from home in Europe this season have come from deflections, from limited opportunities.
Legia will tire late in the game. Teams always do when they have to traverse the Continent before a game. Teams also tire when the opposition have the bulk of possession and move the ball, and therefore opponents, around quickly. Keep the ball moving, bring on four fresh legs with 20 minutes to go and exploit this natural advantage.
Play it clever, and we’ll have enough in the tank.
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The huddle,
You are missing something….
The narcotics some folks have been over indulging in.
I haven’t read back so not sure if this started the discussion on referees and the huns, but if you’ve not seen it you should read this article on how the mini’s are preparing for their game at the weekend, says it all really….
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-ready-if-they-see-red-at-ibrox-1-3500426
Why don’t Hamas and Israel stop firing rockets at each other.
Simple and sorted.
Turkeybhoy – here’s how it can be done :
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=United+Nations
Quonno
SFTB
Here is a link to the article that every Celtic supporter should consider as actually having a basic economical truth running through it before mouthing off about who to blame.
http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2152534-how-uefa-prize-money-is-destroying-smaller-national-leagues
On your question do the smaller teams have to play in the CL it might be that if UEFA do nothing to change the ridiculously stupid disbursement of UEFA geld they simply might not have the option.
As it stands clubs like ourselves Ajax and similar will yo yo from CL to EL as it will take a season ( as seasons now stand) to lose the best from the CL qualifying team bring in replacements including at times a manager and gel into a team.
We seem to have failed with the quality brought in last season which means we are not prepared as well as we should have been but there are structural reasons why Celtic cannot meet the ambitions of the support and it is those that need to be tackled.
My thought on reading article was as yours – why don’t “wee” teams tell big teams to gtf?
How would the UEFA work if it were 4 groups instead of 8 in the group stages because wee clubs had staged a revolt?
Given real competition only begins after the first group games are over would anything really change other than avoiding a 6-1 humping to a big team?
Here’s my team slip Ronny buoy :
Forster
Matthews VVD Lustig Issy
Henderson Biton Johansson
Commons
Stokes Griffiths
No sideways passing, no obsession with the wing, shoot on sight, drag their porous centre halves all over the place and get back to defending as a unit.
Come on the ole hoops.
Tonight would be a good night to produce the ole approved 5-nil out of the ole hat.
If any CQNers are in the Presidents Suite tonight come over and say Hail Hail.
I will be the Bhoy who looks totally out of place.
LB
Right time to get to the pub for a few ? pints before the game :)
Auldheid
I love your indefatigability sir. I’m genuinely worn out sometimes at the simplistic Lawell out or Delia is crap response to a series of very complex issues surrounding the club’s ability to survive at a level befitting our own perspective as a big club.
Keep it lit fella.
Big Wavy
!!Bada Bing!!
14:23 on
6 August, 2014
Haha! I didn’t even think of that. The bhoys will have to do without their facebooks/twitter for an evening then, how are they going to survive!!
HH
turkeybhoy
just where do you take your info from.Quite prepared to take Hamas figures for everything,but scoff at other figures.
From a variety of trustworthy sources and Hamas is not one of them.
Maybe if you took your heads out of your self righteous,@rses,you would see more clearly.
Like you, you mean??
Trying to be smug,using a bloody disaster,is disgraceful.But you knew that,right?
Think that’s a question that’s best directed at yourself.
Today’s an important football day for my club. I did not introduce the topic. I posted in reaction to a well known disinformer. I made no argument in favour of Hamas. I accept that they are tunnelling and trying to kill Israelis. I believe there are many in Hamas who no longer care what harm they cause.
But you knew that I knew and believed that that anyway, but you still decided to try and score a cheap point.
Natknow,
Not thousands dead.Just to clarify,the first wave of attacks in the “Shock and Awe”tactics from America and Britain in the last Iraq war,killed 25,000 civilians.Are you seriously telling me that in 3 weeks of fighting,the unending missile bombardment in a densely populated area such as Gaza that has culminated in over 1,000 deaths has been”Indiscriminate”?.
The Israelis might be a lot of things,but bad marksmen they aint.
Never a report of any Hamas dead in the figures.Only civilians.Never a rocket site hit,only Hospitals,schools,etc.Who gives out the figures to the list of worthies you name?Hamas.
Yes,get your head out of your @rse and look at the facts.Not Hamas propaganda.
Leaving to drive through to Edinburgh, spot of dinner then onto the match. Hope we get 50,000, we need it tonight.
Mon the Hoops!!
3-0
HH
Livibhoy,
You’ll be the one firing into the ferro rocher:)
Big wavy, plus 1.
Auldheid
Good article showing the wider issues in football and not just at our club..
HH
Geordie Munro
I will be lobbed out for doing the Huddle in the hospitality suite!
LB
Auldheid
I read that article already. It is a well written piece. I don’t know whether or if my club is making common ground with the Anderlechts, Ajaxes, Benficas, Viennas and Ferncvaroses of this world but they should be.
Lie big wavy said, it is far easier to believe in the convenient scapegoat and that, if it was not for that pesky Lawwell, Celtic would regularly be up there with the big boys just as were(NOT) before PL arrived.
I still think he’s overpaid but, even, if we halved his salary, Celtic’s lot would not be changed.
“Where’s the Seville Money” is a circular trend and can be applied to a variety of situations.
[14:53, 06/08/2014] Jack O’Friel: Have been training *
[14:53, 06/08/2014] Jack O’Friel: http://m.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-ready-if-they-see-red-at-ibrox-1-3500426
[14:53, 06/08/2014] Jack O’Friel: Shows u how bad it is
[14:53, 06/08/2014] Jack O’Friel: Robbie neilson sayin they know what ibrox is like so agave been training with 10 vs 11
West End of East End
15:11 on 6 August, 2014
I haven’t read back so not sure if this started the discussion on referees and the huns…
WEofEE
I would recommend you look back as some handsome, knowledgeable chap posted some interesting stats on the two seasons since Sevco’s formation.
See 13:19, 13:22 and 13:28
SFTBs,
No you did not introduce it,but were only too keen to jump in to decry and mock someone with a different viewpoint from you and Natknow.Too late to hold the hands up claiming innocence.
Your trustworthy sources !!!!!?Hamas give out the figures.
I dont try and score cheap points from human disasters.In fact I never bring them onto the blog,but I refuse to sit and read ill informed,one sided vitriol that passes for comment from some on here.
Worse than TSD. Pathetic
tonydonnelly67
13:45 on 6 August, 2014
Remember this stone Waller?
http://itcantbeparanoia.blogspot.co.uk/
That was a downright disgrace; mega cheating by Aluko and the MIB. Wasn’t even close
to any contact. Skanky Zombies!
C’MON THE CELTS!!!!!!!
8-0!!!
turkeybhoy
If, as you say, Hamas give out the figures where do you get yours from?
Not in the habit of jumping on the PL bandwagon,unless its really called for,but if,as we are led to believe,FF will join Southampton for £8 million,then I would seriously ask questions of his abilities in the transfer market.FF has proved himself at a level far higher than 90% of the keepers in England,who would be valued at almost twice that.
I would also think Newcastle would have a sell on clause.
If we must sell,FFS,get at least the market value.
Hi Lhads
I see that sevco have been awarded another home tie in the next round of the Shakenvac Cup against Clyde
It all helps to keep the lights on you know.
HH
phil
Hamiltontim,
Hamas.Why,have I said anything different?.I dont dispute the number dead,only the status of the dead.Only civilians?No Hamas?.Dont think so.
Turkey hoy –
From the United Nations website :
“Since the beginning of the conflict on 7 July, at least 1,777 Palestinians have been killed, about 85 per cent of them civilians, according to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA). That figure includes 393 children and 208 women.
In addition, the UN agency reports that more than 8,000 Palestinians have been injured.
Meanwhile, at least 66 Israelis have been killed, including two civilians and 64 soldiers, as well as one foreign national in Gaza.”
Now – I’ve told you where I got my figures from and it’s the source every Western government and news organisation trust. Where do you get yours? I’ll assume the IDF unless you want to correct me.
By the way – if they are such accurate marksmen as you say, then we can only assume they deliberately targeted the schools, hospitals and refugee camps noted and pictured in the UN reports.
In which case they should be tried for murder in The Hague.
Turkeybhoy
Or taking it another way, he’s turned in a £6m profit.
Statistics, statistics……..
PL has proved himself in the past with transfer fees, if FF is going for £8mill I assume that’s the best we can get.
I mean we had someone earlier questioning the millions we got for Ki a player who didn’t even start for us. So PL as usual is on a hiding for nothing (see the not selling the TV rights for tonights game).
Southampton owner has been quoted as saying today that half the first team wanted to leave and no way he could give a new manager a squad of players wanting to leave.
Players have the power, if they want to go theyll go.
philcool
18k a break even figure for them? Doubt it. Hibs not get half the gate?
LB
http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/aug/06/daily-record-rangers
thanks for the heads up Phil
IGC – I will check back to see what that handsome chap posted, but I was astonished to see managers from other teams now openly discussing this as a tactic they need to deploy when they go there. Don’t fancy playing poker with Robbie Neilson….
Platform 5 before the game anyone?
Should be there with mrs jamesgang by about 5. Save her a seat and me a Guinness – please!
;-)
HH jamesgang
I think £8M is to low for Forster in the current market. However what higher level has he proved himself at CL vs EPL?
In any given CL season we’ll play at most 2 Pot 1 teams (if we get to last 16). An EPL keeper plays up to 4 teams that might be considered Pot 1. We’ll play 1 or 2 Pot 2 teams an EPL keeper 5/6. We’ll play a Pot 3/4 team again an EPL keeper 5/6.
The CL is more prestigious but for me it’s neither a higher level nor more attractive to players than any of the top 4 European leagues.
hamiltontim
10:55 on 6 August, 2014
auldheid
00:27 on 6 August, 2014
The link you used to question my charge against the board highlighted that the £50k given to the Calton Food Bank came from Celtic supporters through the Celtic Foundation when they purchased tickets for the Stan Petrov match. The money didn’t come from Celtic FC.
Neither did the money that filled the GB food bank. It came from the same source – the good will of Celtic supporters. Both GB and Foundation were conduits. Your point was that in refusing to assist the GB PL was going against the club’s ethos.
Perhaps in that one case for reasons I am not privy to it was, but it cannot be used to make the general point I thought you were making that the CEO was acting against our ethos.
Again however, you tried to provide some sort of fudge regarding my original point.
PL gave the instruction not to support the GB food drive. It was he who gave the instruction, going back on a previous agreement, that there was to be no mention on any official club media outlet.
Regardless of reasons, that’s disgraceful in my eyes.
As a matter of personal policy I try not to judge anyone or their motives at all or do so reluctantly if I have info to inform my judgement. You have more of that in the cases you are taking up the cudgels on than I do, but that gives you an emotional connection that I cannot feel not being you.
I have adopted that no judgement policy in as far as is humanly possible because I also find that personal judgements can get in the way of getting solutions.
I suspect your original comment was frustration driven and I think that if you, Eddie, BRTH and I got around a table we would be outdoing each other in Monty Python old Yorkshire gentleman fashion comparing the causes of said frustration.
I suspect JPT might even join us. I call it organisational inertia.
Listen Pat, if you think I enjoy going to meetings at Parkhead on behalf of Celtic supporters who’ve been banned by the club on the basis of trumped up charges and without internal investigations being carried out, you’re wrong.
If you think I enjoy having to meet with JPT because of grievances I have with SOME aspects of Celtic’s policy and behaviour, you’re wrong.
If you think I enjoy seeing my partner being searched 4 times during a 200 yard walk from the bus park at Pittodrie to the turnstiles, you’re wrong.
I spoke with Eddie T a while back during the fundraising for the Amsterdam Bhoys and he told me how fed up with it all he was and how he just wanted to get back to supporting Celtic.
However, so long as he felt the club were abusing their position he felt it necessary to question their actions.
I’ll continue to do the same whilst supporting the team on the park with every sinew in my body.
Hence the depth of your frustrations and feelings, but as a nut and bolt character I think emotions are great for making anybody want to get out and do something but, once having fulfilled that purpose, they are best left aside if achieving the desired objective requires it.
Enjoy the game tonight.
You too and if I can stop myself passing judgement on a players inability to control the ball first touch I might :)
Hail Hail
Barry bassa gets to go back to his zombie roots
HH