It must seem inconceivable to the younger generation, but those older saw Scotland compete at World Cups in 1974, 78, 82, 86, 90 and 98. When I turned 35, the only tournaments Scotland had not reached in my lifetime happened when I was 3 and 27. Wales had never been there (still on a 64 year dry patch) and England missed out in 74, 78 and 94.
Back then, it meant something to me; today, I’m all about the Celtic. That nationalism thing has gone, Celtic is my nation and the only flag that represents me. If Scotland lose, it will not move the dial of my mood one degree.
If anything could come close to changing this, it’s a former Scotland captain wanting Ukraine to win at Hampden tonight in the ludicrous belief that would send a message to the Kremlin. A child-like belief that football support can impact a man who is prepared to kill thousands.
Still, the World Cup is always a great sporting event, the younger generation has been robbed of the meaningful interest many of us had, it is churlish for me to “humbug” at what I once enjoyed. There’s also Callum McGregor to think about. He would grace the tournament as the heartbeat of the Scotland side and deserves the chance to perform on the top international stage.
So for the younger generation, Callum, David Turnbull, Greg Taylor and Anthony Ralston, best of luck tonight. Just don’t ask me to stand for a blue flag.
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Shoots
Scores! Jota pings it with beautiful spin across the pitch from left back position, Kyogo takes a wonder touch on the move and slides it past the keeper, majestic😁🍀
Now to read the article😉
From earlier thread
Thanks for the feedback all, as I thought.
I heard an interview from a man who runs the Republic a group who want the Head of State elected, whatever form that takes. I thought his final point was really at the heart of the matter and something which the interviewer couldn’t answer, ‘in a healthy democracy can it ever be a good thing to have the same Head of State for 70 years?’
An Tearmann
Yes all well here
Hot Smoked from earlier- Laurieston Bar, Bon Accord and Tennents. That’s the first three out of 30,000.🤣
Just like Ange we have to encourage players to do well for their nation. I too only look out for our players but do genuinely hope Scotland success, however, sadly, the SFA put me right off.
Most Football Associations in Europe put fans off from following their National teams and giving 100% backing. I want Scotland to win every time they play, though, I will never pay for the privilege of seeing them do so. This IS my country and I’m a proud Scot! por cierto.
MCPHAIL BHOY on 1ST JUNE 2022 12:07 PM
‘in a healthy democracy can it ever be a good thing to have the same Head of State for 70 years?’
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Would that not depend on what role the ‘head of state’ was supposed to fulfil?
I’m a republican, but that question isn’t the slam dunk argument you seem to think.
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Just because, Jota- Kyogo- Goal!
https://youtu.be/QS_pKkOGqLM
I’m not majorly into nationalism in broader society but i think sporting loyalty that is shared across the country for all colours, creeds and club allegiances is a great thing
My Scottish pals all love Scotland and I have had great times home and away.
I thought it was unfortunate when I was in England that their fans went to the games in club allegiance groups and even had it on the flags. Recipe for a bit of scrapping and i personally witnessed it on a train from London to Derby (all of us Scots in 1st class to avoid them).
Mon Scotland – 2-0 tonight and we win on pens vs Wales with Bale hitting row Z
I was trying to comment on two previous articles…but due to a “password problem” I lost a bit of time…So I hope its OK to add them here….
The first one concerns the article on Ian Young….
I signed for Neilston Waverley the week after Ian signed for Celtic….and a wee slight correction ….Neilston Waverley was a Juvenile side and Neilston Juniors was the Junior side.
Ian’s Dad (Tam Young) founded and ran the Waverley….and Ian’s brother Bobby was the centre-forward with Motherwell at this time.
I eventually signed for Neilston Juniors…and our centre forward was a certain John “Dixie ” Deans…who also signed for Motherwell….before joining us.
It’s in Celtic’s interests to have a successful Scottish national team.
I have lucid memories of our five in a row World Cups – and after qualification, they were all pretty painful in fact.
As I travelled the world for work and Scotland’s performances were so poor that they could never have made international headlines, my interest waned.
I’m now in a place where I have 2 passports to 2 different Unions but regard myself as Scottish over both of them.
I hope they do well and get through but less about passion and more about the banter of playing the Brits and the Yanks if we get there; now where’s my Scottish passport…😉
JOHNJOE on 1ST JUNE 2022 12:42 PM
*there seemed tae be a bit of a rumour at the time that allegedly Ian’s grampa was a bit urinated off at his signing for us, as i said allegedly and widnae come tae watch him playing for us.
Could be true as the Big Mhan’s da who was an official with Blantyre Vics never watched him again after he joined us although it didnae stop him taking big Billy on loan after Jock persuaded him.
And he has said his mother never wished him well prior tae any game after he came up fae Wales, as he said again allegedly “they were staunch but no bitter”
As for Bobby Young, never played a first team game for us and only joined in a swap deal for Bobby Craig who we wanted off the wage bill
Bobby never held that against the club and was one of the founder members of Toronto Celtic who my late brother, the one with the talent, played for along with the Toronto Irish.
And to think we always looked upon Dixie as being a DOB, aye the same John Kelly Deans.
ERNIE LYNCH on 1ST JUNE 2022 12:15 PM
MCPHAIL BHOY on 1ST JUNE 2022 12:07 PM
‘in a healthy democracy can it ever be a good thing to have the same Head of State for 70 years?’
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Would that not depend on what role the ‘head of state’ was supposed to fulfil?
I’m a republican, but that question isn’t the slam dunk argument you seem to think.
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I didn’t say it was a slam dunk. I do, however feel that those who want to celebrate this event and want it to continue after her with her son, grandson and so on have to answer that question surely?
I pretty much concur with everything Paul67 says today. If it’s not players in G&W hoops then my heartbeat will be tuned to regular ( well apart from players wearing RW&B and getting beat). Celtic players away on international duty is not a chance of glory, it’s a chance to get injured. A highly negative opinion, but one from someone who doesn’t do flags or national anthems.
Fans of Inverness, Kilmarnock, Dundee, etc, I can well understand their Tartan Army mentality, proud Scots who support clubs who will not get European football, so following the national team gets them some nice trips abroad.
I hope Scotland win tonight and don’t buy into this pathetic manufactured love for Ukraine. Souness is just playing to the gallery, not in the least surprised by that. A man driven by ego and vanity. Is it honours time of the year ?
Good luck to Callum and the rest of the Celtic boys involved tonight, and hopefully Sunday. Just don’t get injured.
I am old enough to remember when Rangers scarves were commonly worn Scotland matches, when Jinky was booed, Davy hay booed also. Dalglish dropped when he was due to equal George Youngs record and when Mckinnon was selected ahead of McNeill.
Come on Scotland!
Someone still loves ye😉😁
As long as Celtic players, come back with no injuries, is my take on international football.
There will be huge psychological pressure on the officials to ensure a Ukraine win. And any VAR decisions are almost certain to go against Scotland.
Yep,and I can also remember when young kids were sent up and down chimneys.You could go to the Pub,have 5 pints,come out and get a Fish Supper,all for a Florin,then head over to Hampden,and boo Celtic players.
Them were the days.
C,mon Scotland.God Bless Ukraine.
BIGBHOY. I had the same experiences on a regular basis and stopped going to Scotland games in the early 70’s as a result.
It’s not quite as obvious now, but; the media constantly bum up sevco and ex sevco players at every opportunity whether warranted or not, frequently ignoring better performances by Celtic players, and the Tartan Army are embarrassing arseholes.
I wouldn’t cross the road to watch Scotland now.
BIGBHOY on 1ST JUNE 2022 1:29 PM
I am old enough to remember when Rangers scarves were commonly worn Scotland matches, when Jinky was booed, Davy hay booed also. Dalglish dropped when he was due to equal George Youngs record and when Mckinnon was selected ahead of McNeill.
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Another example of what happened years ago but is not acceptable today.
A welcome change in mindset.
HH.
As a Celtic supporter for 61 years I attended my first Scotland game in 1970 at Hampden v England. I have supported Scotland ever since and enjoyed great victories and endured heartbreaking defeats. I have also attended 2 World Cups.
Celtic are and always will be my first love and number 1 priority, but I will be cheering on Scotland tonight in a Leith Social Club and hopefully again on Saturday.
Souness is an attention-seeking asswipe.
Paul 67,
We need a bit of flag waving tonight after Kate Forbes dire warning ” ” The public service in Scotland needs reset and to become more efficient ”
Don’t need to be an Enigma code breaker to decipher job cuts, slashing of council budgets and austerity on a massive scale.
Anyone have O Level arithmetic ?
HH.
Same Paul
A matter of complete indifference.
i probably wont even watch it
Good afternoon all from Ruglen.
Maybe it’s an age thing but I feel much the same as Paul67. International football leaves me a bit cold these days. My politics are Internationalist leftist so maybe there’s that too.
Can’t quite shake my desire to see England get pumped when they play in spite of that. Even that has declined in recent years.
The hypocrisy of the ‘keep politics out of sport’ brigade is well and truly exposed on these occasions.
If it ain’t Celtic, i ain’t that interested.
If it affects celtic interest is piqued. So I’ll keep an eye on it hoping our players do well and stay fit. Beyond that, meh.
Where are the Tolbooth commandos? Lightweights.
‘It’s shite being Scottish…’
Mark Renton
BRRB
I bet you could compile some list of gone but not forgotten boozers.
One of my past favs was the Lunar 7. Even commandos would have struggled with the ” training” required.
HH.
Barely interested in national team.
Might feel different if the load was evenly carried.
Might feel different if the organisation who run the national team stopped employing people in key roles on the basis of their handshake.
More games for already overworked Celtic players.
Of course, if we qualify, Jack and Patterson and others of their ilk will be fit for the party.
And wee Billy will be the talk of the town.
Yawn.
Really hope Scotland do it tonight. As mentioned our captain deserves a wee run on the biggest stage. Also, would be pretty darn cool to be in a group with US and England. Will make for a few good parties over here.
Greenpinata 2.20. I will compile a dossier. Mind you, some of the dumps I drank in are not missed. 🤣
BRRB 2.13pm
Where are the Tolbooth commandos ??????
Back at blinking work ….
Although a few tins chilling fir the fitba tonight.. totally different sport from Celtic and much different feelings
But Cmon the Scotland 🏴
AIPPLE on 1ST JUNE 2022 2:32 PM
Really hope Scotland do it tonight. As mentioned our captain deserves a wee run on the biggest stage. Also, would be pretty darn cool to be in a group with US and England. Will make for a few good parties over here
*My da who will be 29 year up in the Jungle in the sky this November used tae say that if the Yanks took tae fitba the way they did tae golf they would win a WC.