Sorry but it’s not just about doing the right thing by your fellow supporters. It’s also whether you consider that this (or any other action) will have a beneficial effect for those you are supporting.
If you consider this outweighs any detrimental effect on your fellow supporter then I’m afraid it’s entirely justifiable.
If the club are fined, will that actually be detrimental to the fans overall? Would we be ejected from the competition? I suspect that’s highly unlikely and would open a very large can of worms.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
Auldheid
Thats only your take on things of course.
If people take the decision to show compassion and solidarity by the simple act of waving a flag, thats what they will do.
No amount of media or institutional criticism will make a jot of difference.
Don’t know about anyone else by it disgust me that any team want to Shave Beer. That’s enough for a protest to me.
MWD
ernie lynch on
AULDHEID on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:27 AM
‘If it is UEFA that are wrong then why not take the argument to them?’
##
Maybe the Celtic Board will do it when challenging any sanction that’s imposed.
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on
Or play football against a she-beaver.
(Bites tongue…)
OneMalloy on
Happy Birthday LennyBhoy, have a great day!!
HH
Taurangabhoy on
BMCUWP Yep good one Bobby. Majority of kiwis just think it is wrong. Biggest Telecom recently announced a minimum living wage for all employees regardless of employment status and was widely applauded. My old neighbour is a NZ First MP, centre left and taking votes off the Nats and Labour. NZ politics moving back to the middle. Still too big a wage gap between rich and poor but at least for now plenty of jobs. Hope yer keeping well Bobby, my girls were all back last week for Mrs T’s big five oh. We had a punks not dead party, green Mohawks.
thetimreaper on
All persons entering Celtic Park (the “Stadium”) are admitted subject to the these Ground Regulations, Celtic FC’s Rules on Unacceptable Conduct, the Club’s Social Mission Statement and to the applicable Rules and Regulations of The Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Professional Football League and/or, where applicable, the Regulations of the FIFA/UEFA Competitions. ENTRY TO THE STADIUM SHALL BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE UNQUALIFIED ACCEPTANCE OF ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
ernie lynch on
THETIMREAPER on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:48 AM
Also, you’re not allowed to take photographs.
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS on
TAURANGABHOY
Blinkin’ flip-that sounds like some party!
Belated birthday wishes from me.
HH.
GerryBhoy on
THETIMREAPER on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:48 AM
All persons entering Celtic Park (the “Stadium”) are admitted subject to the these Ground Regulations, Celtic FC’s Rules on Unacceptable Conduct, the Club’s Social Mission Statement and to the applicable Rules and Regulations of The Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Professional Football League and/or, where applicable, the Regulations of the FIFA/UEFA Competitions. ENTRY TO THE STADIUM SHALL BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE UNQUALIFIED ACCEPTANCE OF ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
Yup. Nail on head hit. Celtic FC have made their rules clear. Too many zoomers for me. Bye for now.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
Uefa….Can live with corruption, but dont like flags.
Maybe we should tell people like that….to feck off
Hypocrites
HH
weeminger on
YOU MUST NEVER BREAK THE RULES! SUBMIT! OBEY! OBEY!
thetimreaper on
Ernie,
No photos or video’s of the ‘match’ for copyright infringement. Seems sensible.
weeminger on
That said, if you break the rules and get chucked out the stadium, tough.
bankiebhoy1 on
FIVE GOAL CELTIC………………………………..
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
It’s good to be a Tim.
scullybhoy on
79caps on 18th August 2016 8:13 am
Pictures of the flags at Celtic Park posted to my Facebook page with the comment ”Being a Palestinian, seeing such photos and solidarity crowds with Palestine gives me hope and optimism despite the fact that we have been under Israeli oppression and occupation since decades”.
Couldn’t make it up, then again. Anyway, surely such photos could have been taken outside the stadium. BTW if Celtic are so important to you – why hurt them?
Bhoylo83 on
Think the oul codgers on CQN have forgotten what it’s like when you are young and want to change the world.
I loved last night’s flag display by the fans and a few people I have met today, while not Celtic fans, have said how much they admire the Celtic support for doing it.
Part of the reason I am a Celtic fan is because we are more than just a football team.
We stand for more
B-)
thetimreaper on
weeminger on 18th August 2016 11:56 am
YOU MUST NEVER BREAK THE RULES! SUBMIT! OBEY! OBEY!
————-
Well you know we get a limited ticket allocations at some grounds in this country because some fans cant behave themselves. So it’s not unreasonable to expect that, otherwise decent people who do carry the clubs good name end up missing out.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
Bhoylo83
Dinosaurs more like….and crabbit as well.
Most of them dont remember that their own folks were treated like s***, the same way the Palestinians are now.
Its easy to moan from the comfort of an easy chair with your slippers on:)
Good Post.
HH
Auld Tam on
Madmitch –
Fot CL games, the home club is told not to broadcast any tunes after a specific time, to keep the airways free for the CL theme.
That’s why YNWA was aired earliet than normal.
ernie lynch on
BHOYLO83 on 18TH AUGUST 2016 12:00 PM
Think the oul codgers on CQN have forgotten what it’s like when you are young and want to change the world.
###
Maybe when they were young they didn’t want to change the world. Just their place in it.
thetimreaper on
Anyway I’m revelling in our £45 million strike force of Griffiths, Dembele, Sinclair and Roberts. Wee Jimmy’s no too bad these days either.
GerryBhoy on
Who runs UEFA competitions? Oh, er…………em, UEFA – surprise, surprise. They make the rules and administer the results, sanctions for rule breakers. Simples.
So, those who knowingly break the UEFA rules (whether we agree with them or not), knowingly and intentionally damage our club. That is not acceptable as far as I’m concerned. These people are not Celtic “supporters”.
Political opinions are a bit like Ar§§hol§s; almost everyone has one. We all have the right to demonstrate in support of our beliefs but IMO, Celtic Park is not the place to do that; especially knowing the damage done to our club. ’nuff said. Back tae the fitba!
COYBIG
Taurangabhoy on
Thanks Bobby it was. Classic family portraits . L had a great time, lots of family around.
Yep let’s show YOOFA whose boss and they can shove their competition. So what morally and politically pure egalitarian fitba teams can we play. They will be lucky to be graced by our presence. Did the flags come with compulsory nose rings. Sometimes the GB are inspiring sometimes just pure pish. GB section tickets should be double the price to pay the fines.
An Teach Solais on
CLOGHERCELT
Good to hear from you. Just trying to get the passport issue sorted with Charlie Flanagan and An Roinn Gnothai Eachtracha I bhFaiche Stiofain. (Nil an t-eochair blais ag obair). Once that is sorted Co Lu is on the agenda.
Hope to get over soon. Enjoy Annagassan. HH
Go tell the Spartim on
If anyone wishes to read what it feels like to be a hurtin hun have a look at Roddy (debenture for life) Forsyths piece in the Telegraph.
Neustadt-Braw on
New article posted…
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on
Gerrybhoy
Away ye go with your nonsense.
What do you mean ‘these people are not Celtic supporters’
Feck off with that.
Who made you boss?
Auldheid on
Weéminger
Apart from what evidence is there to show that the demonstration did anything to benefit the plight of the Palestinians rather than at those demonstrating I’ll remain unconvinced.
A fine on the club though is hard evidence of the cost.
My core point stands. It is a demo paid for by other peoples money whether they want to or not and so undermines itself.
GerryBhoy on
BHOYLO83 on 18TH AUGUST 2016 12:00 PM
Think the oul codgers on CQN have forgotten what it’s like when you are young and want to change the world.
By all means; they should be encouraged to do just that but Celtic Park should not be the venue, since punitive results are inevitable.
CommonSenseCSC
vfr800a8 on
Auld Tam on 18th August 2016 10:55 am
EXPAT_CELT –
Oldco last played in Europe in the 2011/12 qualifiers, so that co-efficient would have expired at end of last season, so the reason for zero co-efficient is inconclusive.
Yes it’s a lovely spot, about a 10 minute spin up the road.
thetimreaper,
Thanks the entry conditions are clear. I know it’s difficult for the PLC but I honestly can’t understand how so many ‘flags’ that were likely to attract a sanction from UEFA got into the ground? Were there just too many?
Given the likelihood of some form of a sanction, I wouldn’t be surprised if the PLC were tempted to close the standing section for future UEFA competition matches. Who knows?
Ernie,
So you are disagreeing with UEFA standpoint on flags because there are a whole number of nations participating in UEFA Competitions that could be argued to be a participant in some kind of ‘hostility’?
That would include NATO Members, France, Germany, UK, Spain etc, etc?
To illustrate your point you randomly selected the Irish Tricolour?
Okay ;)
HH & Offski
cigalasporfavor on
TD67 11:34
Had a wee laugh to myself at your level of annoyance caused by the p.a. operator during YNWA.
How annoyed would you be trying to listen to shortbread radio 80 mls offshore and having Donegal Coastguards shouting weather forecasts starting pretty much a minute before each goal was scored?
I,ll have a word with the P.A. Operator if you sort out these pesky Coastguards…
Auldheid on
Ernie Lynch
Indeed but if they won’t why shouldn’t those who disagree if they feel so strongly about it?
FAC is a good example of supporters taking a lead to get meaningful change.
Taurangabhoy on
Bhoylo83 when I was young I went to Rafa and Gaza City to see it for myself. Wonder how many hanky wavers yesterday have done that. Realised just how much of a guilable bhoy I was when I witnessed the reality of the Saudi silver elite keeping there own people willfully ignorant. You can control ignorant people. I coulda stayed on my couch or waived a wee pennant although not sure that would have shook the earth or changed the World.
vfr800a8 on
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 18th August 2016 12:04 pm
Most of them dont remember that their own folks were treated like s***, the same way the Palestinians are now.
___________________________________
I don’t want to get into a slagging match, but as second generation Irish, I would gladly say that although we were treated like s***, to compare it to conditions in Gaza and The West bank now minimises how bad it is for the Palestinian people.
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AULDHEID on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:27 AM
Sorry but it’s not just about doing the right thing by your fellow supporters. It’s also whether you consider that this (or any other action) will have a beneficial effect for those you are supporting.
If you consider this outweighs any detrimental effect on your fellow supporter then I’m afraid it’s entirely justifiable.
If the club are fined, will that actually be detrimental to the fans overall? Would we be ejected from the competition? I suspect that’s highly unlikely and would open a very large can of worms.
Auldheid
Thats only your take on things of course.
If people take the decision to show compassion and solidarity by the simple act of waving a flag, thats what they will do.
No amount of media or institutional criticism will make a jot of difference.
HH
CLOGHER CELT on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:33 AM
http://www.wonderfulireland.ie/east/annagassan/#/
Looks gorgeous.
Don’t know about anyone else by it disgust me that any team want to Shave Beer. That’s enough for a protest to me.
MWD
AULDHEID on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:27 AM
‘If it is UEFA that are wrong then why not take the argument to them?’
##
Maybe the Celtic Board will do it when challenging any sanction that’s imposed.
Or play football against a she-beaver.
(Bites tongue…)
Happy Birthday LennyBhoy, have a great day!!
HH
BMCUWP Yep good one Bobby. Majority of kiwis just think it is wrong. Biggest Telecom recently announced a minimum living wage for all employees regardless of employment status and was widely applauded. My old neighbour is a NZ First MP, centre left and taking votes off the Nats and Labour. NZ politics moving back to the middle. Still too big a wage gap between rich and poor but at least for now plenty of jobs. Hope yer keeping well Bobby, my girls were all back last week for Mrs T’s big five oh. We had a punks not dead party, green Mohawks.
All persons entering Celtic Park (the “Stadium”) are admitted subject to the these Ground Regulations, Celtic FC’s Rules on Unacceptable Conduct, the Club’s Social Mission Statement and to the applicable Rules and Regulations of The Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Professional Football League and/or, where applicable, the Regulations of the FIFA/UEFA Competitions. ENTRY TO THE STADIUM SHALL BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE UNQUALIFIED ACCEPTANCE OF ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THETIMREAPER on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:48 AM
Also, you’re not allowed to take photographs.
TAURANGABHOY
Blinkin’ flip-that sounds like some party!
Belated birthday wishes from me.
HH.
THETIMREAPER on 18TH AUGUST 2016 11:48 AM
All persons entering Celtic Park (the “Stadium”) are admitted subject to the these Ground Regulations, Celtic FC’s Rules on Unacceptable Conduct, the Club’s Social Mission Statement and to the applicable Rules and Regulations of The Scottish Football Association, the Scottish Professional Football League and/or, where applicable, the Regulations of the FIFA/UEFA Competitions. ENTRY TO THE STADIUM SHALL BE DEEMED TO CONSTITUTE UNQUALIFIED ACCEPTANCE OF ALL THESE RULES AND REGULATIONS.
Yup. Nail on head hit. Celtic FC have made their rules clear. Too many zoomers for me. Bye for now.
Uefa….Can live with corruption, but dont like flags.
Maybe we should tell people like that….to feck off
Hypocrites
HH
YOU MUST NEVER BREAK THE RULES! SUBMIT! OBEY! OBEY!
Ernie,
No photos or video’s of the ‘match’ for copyright infringement. Seems sensible.
That said, if you break the rules and get chucked out the stadium, tough.
FIVE GOAL CELTIC………………………………..
:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
It’s good to be a Tim.
79caps on 18th August 2016 8:13 am
Pictures of the flags at Celtic Park posted to my Facebook page with the comment ”Being a Palestinian, seeing such photos and solidarity crowds with Palestine gives me hope and optimism despite the fact that we have been under Israeli oppression and occupation since decades”.
Well done, those bhoys. Celtic, more than a club.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Couldn’t make it up, then again. Anyway, surely such photos could have been taken outside the stadium. BTW if Celtic are so important to you – why hurt them?
Think the oul codgers on CQN have forgotten what it’s like when you are young and want to change the world.
I loved last night’s flag display by the fans and a few people I have met today, while not Celtic fans, have said how much they admire the Celtic support for doing it.
Part of the reason I am a Celtic fan is because we are more than just a football team.
We stand for more
B-)
weeminger on 18th August 2016 11:56 am
YOU MUST NEVER BREAK THE RULES! SUBMIT! OBEY! OBEY!
————-
Well you know we get a limited ticket allocations at some grounds in this country because some fans cant behave themselves. So it’s not unreasonable to expect that, otherwise decent people who do carry the clubs good name end up missing out.
Bhoylo83
Dinosaurs more like….and crabbit as well.
Most of them dont remember that their own folks were treated like s***, the same way the Palestinians are now.
Its easy to moan from the comfort of an easy chair with your slippers on:)
Good Post.
HH
Madmitch –
Fot CL games, the home club is told not to broadcast any tunes after a specific time, to keep the airways free for the CL theme.
That’s why YNWA was aired earliet than normal.
BHOYLO83 on 18TH AUGUST 2016 12:00 PM
Think the oul codgers on CQN have forgotten what it’s like when you are young and want to change the world.
###
Maybe when they were young they didn’t want to change the world. Just their place in it.
Anyway I’m revelling in our £45 million strike force of Griffiths, Dembele, Sinclair and Roberts. Wee Jimmy’s no too bad these days either.
Who runs UEFA competitions? Oh, er…………em, UEFA – surprise, surprise. They make the rules and administer the results, sanctions for rule breakers. Simples.
So, those who knowingly break the UEFA rules (whether we agree with them or not), knowingly and intentionally damage our club. That is not acceptable as far as I’m concerned. These people are not Celtic “supporters”.
Political opinions are a bit like Ar§§hol§s; almost everyone has one. We all have the right to demonstrate in support of our beliefs but IMO, Celtic Park is not the place to do that; especially knowing the damage done to our club. ’nuff said. Back tae the fitba!
COYBIG
Thanks Bobby it was. Classic family portraits . L had a great time, lots of family around.
Yep let’s show YOOFA whose boss and they can shove their competition. So what morally and politically pure egalitarian fitba teams can we play. They will be lucky to be graced by our presence. Did the flags come with compulsory nose rings. Sometimes the GB are inspiring sometimes just pure pish. GB section tickets should be double the price to pay the fines.
CLOGHERCELT
Good to hear from you. Just trying to get the passport issue sorted with Charlie Flanagan and An Roinn Gnothai Eachtracha I bhFaiche Stiofain. (Nil an t-eochair blais ag obair). Once that is sorted Co Lu is on the agenda.
Hope to get over soon. Enjoy Annagassan. HH
If anyone wishes to read what it feels like to be a hurtin hun have a look at Roddy (debenture for life) Forsyths piece in the Telegraph.
New article posted…
Gerrybhoy
Away ye go with your nonsense.
What do you mean ‘these people are not Celtic supporters’
Feck off with that.
Who made you boss?
Weéminger
Apart from what evidence is there to show that the demonstration did anything to benefit the plight of the Palestinians rather than at those demonstrating I’ll remain unconvinced.
A fine on the club though is hard evidence of the cost.
My core point stands. It is a demo paid for by other peoples money whether they want to or not and so undermines itself.
BHOYLO83 on 18TH AUGUST 2016 12:00 PM
Think the oul codgers on CQN have forgotten what it’s like when you are young and want to change the world.
By all means; they should be encouraged to do just that but Celtic Park should not be the venue, since punitive results are inevitable.
CommonSenseCSC
Auld Tam on 18th August 2016 10:55 am
EXPAT_CELT –
Oldco last played in Europe in the 2011/12 qualifiers, so that co-efficient would have expired at end of last season, so the reason for zero co-efficient is inconclusive.
________________________________________________________
The reason for their zero co-efficient is because it is zero. Uefa don’t see them as a new club.
http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50121/domestic/index.html
WARNING: CONTENT MAY BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME
Macjay,
Yes it’s a lovely spot, about a 10 minute spin up the road.
thetimreaper,
Thanks the entry conditions are clear. I know it’s difficult for the PLC but I honestly can’t understand how so many ‘flags’ that were likely to attract a sanction from UEFA got into the ground? Were there just too many?
Given the likelihood of some form of a sanction, I wouldn’t be surprised if the PLC were tempted to close the standing section for future UEFA competition matches. Who knows?
Ernie,
So you are disagreeing with UEFA standpoint on flags because there are a whole number of nations participating in UEFA Competitions that could be argued to be a participant in some kind of ‘hostility’?
That would include NATO Members, France, Germany, UK, Spain etc, etc?
To illustrate your point you randomly selected the Irish Tricolour?
Okay ;)
HH & Offski
TD67 11:34
Had a wee laugh to myself at your level of annoyance caused by the p.a. operator during YNWA.
How annoyed would you be trying to listen to shortbread radio 80 mls offshore and having Donegal Coastguards shouting weather forecasts starting pretty much a minute before each goal was scored?
I,ll have a word with the P.A. Operator if you sort out these pesky Coastguards…
Ernie Lynch
Indeed but if they won’t why shouldn’t those who disagree if they feel so strongly about it?
FAC is a good example of supporters taking a lead to get meaningful change.
Bhoylo83 when I was young I went to Rafa and Gaza City to see it for myself. Wonder how many hanky wavers yesterday have done that. Realised just how much of a guilable bhoy I was when I witnessed the reality of the Saudi silver elite keeping there own people willfully ignorant. You can control ignorant people. I coulda stayed on my couch or waived a wee pennant although not sure that would have shook the earth or changed the World.
The Green Man says SACK THE Board on 18th August 2016 12:04 pm
Most of them dont remember that their own folks were treated like s***, the same way the Palestinians are now.
___________________________________
I don’t want to get into a slagging match, but as second generation Irish, I would gladly say that although we were treated like s***, to compare it to conditions in Gaza and The West bank now minimises how bad it is for the Palestinian people.