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  1. JOE FILIPPIS HAIRCUTĀ onĀ 22ND NOVEMBER 2015 4:48 PM

     

     

    I think a fan on the board is one of those ideas that sounds good when you are sitting in the pub having a pint with your Celtic minded mates,However,in reality it is a no win position for the elected fan. There are many decisions that a board has to make which are case sensitive and cannot be made public at the time the decision is made now the fans rep.on the board would also have to keep his own council while being under pressure from the rank and file supporter.In a sense look at how Auldheid has been treated by some on CQN as he could not initialy disclose information he had from meetings with the club it leads to mistrust in time and for me it just would not work. H.H.

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/celtic-v-kilmarnock-live-updates/comment-page-23/#comment-2723446

     

     

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    Correct. A fan on the Board is not a solution for the reasons you gave – mistrust – a very human condition that afflicts us all to some degree or other.

     

     

    I managed to gain some trust because I was asked to trust and I did.

     

     

    Trust has to start with a decision to trust in the knowledge it may not be reciprocated,but without it no healthy relationship is possible.

     

     

    Small steps need to be taken to build that trust and the least helpful mechanism to doing so is the AGM.

     

     

    There simply has to be a better way. The SLO Forum is a start but it requires everyone to drop their preciousness and mingle.

     

     

    Some of the issues raised there could be followed up by small working parties (and I mean working) that allow all sides of an issue to be explored before they become eye catching headlines of division to slap the club with at an AGM.

  2. ROCK TREE BHOY on 22ND NOVEMBER 2015 5:32 PM

     

    Scott Allan ā€“ time to give him a starting berth Ronnie ā€“ he could be the missing link ā€“ but weā€™ll never know unless he gets more playing time than the odd 5 minuted here and there. Just a passing thought guys.

     

     

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    Yes he is due a chance and should have been introduced no later than 65 minutes yesterday.

  3. thomthethim for Oscar OK on

    Herbo,

     

     

    My view on the club’s position re

     

    The scandals have been posted here in the past, probably before you came aboard.

     

    It is/was that we had only two options open to us, if we were not to be seen as condoning or being complicit in said scandals.

     

     

    Close down as Belfast Celtic, or, relocate, as in Derry City.

     

     

    We all know that neither is feasible, at the moment.

     

     

    Therefore, my view is that Celtic knew that the RFC fiasco was heading for the courts and that the SFA were implicated.

     

    In which case, I am prepared to wait until the dust settles on the outstanding business of the courts and the fallout from it.

     

     

    We have had enough nods to the clubs’s thinking, like the Rory Bremner comment and last week’s post CoS statement.

     

     

    We are not in a position go go after them with all guns blazing. I prefer the Judo analogy, I.e., using your opponents strength against him.

     

     

    In this case, it is using the SFA’s own Rule Book, which at present I believe is in the possession of a Mr.N.Mc.Cann

     

     

    Celtic have stated that they will act in the interests of CFC AND Scottish football.

     

     

    For the present, that will do me.

     

     

     

    HT.

     

     

    I don’t think you can deny the left wing political agenda of your group.

     

     

    That same agenda has the stated aim of putting a “fan” on the Board.

     

     

    To create that environment, it is necessary to attack and attempt to destabilise the current setup.

     

     

    You ignored the first part of my post, re creating a coalition of Supporters’ groups to form a united front.

     

     

    Remember it was only the cumulative efforts of OTHER clubs fans that stopped the SFA/Sevco in their tracks.

     

     

    The enemy is not inside Celtic Park and unless you understand and focus on that, then your efforts will be in vain.

  4. Kilmarnock would get football stopped playing the way they did yesterday but from their perspective Gary Lock had them well drilled and suitably organised. They’ll be absolutely delighted.

     

     

    On the plus side I thought Simonovic looked confident and capable.

     

     

    I was impressed with Forest but like most wingers his crossing over 90 minutes was somewhat erratic.

     

     

    Commons is always a miss for me as we lacked genuine creativity apart from Forest’s pace.

     

     

    We’ll play worse in the future and win.

  5. TheTimReaper

     

    RockTreeBhoy

     

     

    Scott Allan is definitely a baller in my view. We can’t be throwing toouch expectation on him though. He’s still a wean really and needs to be settled on and confident. Only Ronny and his staff(whom he had no say in appointing) can tell when he’s ready and Ye’ve got to trust them on that.

     

     

    He will be a fine player for us I have no doubt. Sooner he’s ready the better.

  6. Awe Naw

     

     

    “I disagree. You make your bed you lie in it.

     

     

    Erm, what bed have I made now? What have I done to make my private life a legitimate area of comment on here? What have you done to make yours a legitimate target?

     

     

     

    CQN has become the eiptome of; if you canĀ“t take the ball (i.e the argument ..mainly down to stupidity if I am being honest) then tackle the man.

     

     

    What. all of it? So there have been examples, including today’s victim where they dished it out so they should expect to take it? Did canamalar post details of mickbhoy’s private life? Did today’s posters have details of their private life exposed by Tony D? I am not aware of this.

     

    I stated that Jeanette Findlay, and her family, have a legitimate right to post in similar vein on Tony D. I would also defend the right of the alleged victim of today’s allegations to call out Tony D should he wish to do so. But I cannot see any way in which my or your disagreement with what Tony D says is strengthened or legitimised by reference to an unrelated incident which puts him in a bad light, regardless of whether it is true or not. Your views on Celtic football do not become any less legitimate because you molest Parrots in your spare time, nor do they become more powerful or truthful, if you lead a relatively benign and blameless private life.

     

     

    Happened to me on Friday night with one of the resolutioners. So what ? that is what CFC is all about these days. The money.

     

    If the blogs clarion call of non lazy journalism is still being used and it is and it is not adhering to that standard then why should anyone else adhere to common decency?

     

    Even our own chairman is at it ?

     

     

    My mammy use to ask me “I f your pals jumped in the Clyde, would you jump in after them?” It always made me laugh rather than have the desired effect of making me think. You have just posed a similar question. You have asked that, if some (and only some) have dropped there standards of common decency, then so should we. That is specious thinking- fair enough in response to one who has treated you so but not so convincing when you apply it to someone who merely lives in the same community (blog) as the person who offended you.

     

     

     

    HH

     

     

    And Hail Hail t you too. It is nice to see such common decencies as HH maintained on CQN :-)

  7. The_Huddle,

     

    So you ignore the options I offer to discuss your squirrel.

     

    Seem like a pointless discussion when you refuse to address the points made and invent your own consequences and options without even looking at those less extreme.

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    in a minority of 1 again yesterday i think.

     

     

    Forrest, imho, only has a good game if he actually sets something up ior scores himself.

     

     

     

    beating the full back maybe 6 times in the game, he didnt get a final ball in front of a celtic player to shoot, or he missed them all together.

     

     

    gms, was even worse.

     

     

    and izzy must be on first name terms with the guy behind the goals he hot with every 2nd cross.

     

     

    i also though we did do enough to win yesterday, we did make some chance, the keeper had a coupl of good saves, we hit the woodwork, and could have had a penalty.

     

     

    equaly though, killie could have scored late in the game.

     

     

    for me it was one of those days, it happens half a dozen games a season.

     

     

    onwards celtic.

  9. Thomthethim

     

     

     

    HT. I donā€™t think you can deny the left wing political agenda – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/celtic-v-kilmarnock-live-updates/comment-page-24/#comment-2723481

     

     

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    I’ll repeat Tom we have no political agenda. We discuss Celtic and that’s it.

     

     

    Can you give me an example of this political agenda which you claim?

     

     

    We have a meeting on Tuesday and I’ll ask for permission from those present if I can post on here what’s been discussed.

     

     

    I can assure you it will all concern Celtic.

     

     

    As I said you may disagree with some of the things we do but you’re making accusations without any knowledge or foundation.

  10. HT

     

     

    Maybe so, a personal gaff by an until then, totally anonymous chairman.

     

     

    Weā€™ve been in business, and operated as a business for over 120 years, charity is a sideline. and in recent years Celtic caught the charity bug again, directly from the Celtic supporters.

     

     

    I prefer to focus on ā€˜the big issueā€™ I think the Celtic Trust and other groups should bear pressure on Celtic, in relation to ā€˜the big issueā€˜ with all their might.

     

     

    Iā€™m glad Aberdeen fans have shown some ā€˜appetiteā€™

  11. Canamalar on 22nd November 2015 5:46 pm

     

     

    So you ignore the options I offer to discuss your squirrel.

     

     

    Seem like a pointless discussion when you refuse to address the points made and invent your own consequences and options without even looking at those less extreme.

     

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    Calm down mate, you always go off on one.

     

     

    I dont even know where this started as I woke up drunk and continued from there.

     

     

    I’m saying no matter what fans or clubs do they don’t have the power of quitting. I was never debating what you were doing or what can be done to get to the point of quitting.

     

     

    Love and kisses

  12. foghorn leghorn on

    should i click on the advert at the top of the page that says ‘How Coconut Oil Will Change Your Life’?

     

     

    Well im bounty

  13. Sftb…

     

     

    A good thought out post as usual by your goodself.

     

     

    Most that I speak to have more or less the same thoughts on RD as I have.

     

     

    He is too dogmatic in his team structure, won’t change it until it is usually too late.

     

     

    As has been said earlier…what is his grief with Stokes?

     

     

    Buys players (maybe he doesn’t) that look the part with the clubs he got them from and then plays them out of position!

     

     

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Ronnie would be a good coach and has done ok so far bar Europe where our corn can be earned…

     

     

    My preference would be to get a manager in and keep Ronnie as head coach.

     

     

    Hopefully, I will be proven wrong. HH

  14. thomthethim for Oscar OK on 22nd November 2015 5:04 pm –

     

     

    I suggest that on the matter of challenging a corrupt SFA, you call out the Board and not the fans.

     

     

    As a member of the corrupt SFA, Celtic are part of it and are unlikely to challenge it.

     

    Any successful challenge to the SFA would rock the boat and with THEIR return imminent we can never have that.

     

    See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/celtic-v-kilmarnock-live-updates/comment-page-24/#comments

  15. Saint Stivs on 22nd November 2015 5:53 pm

     

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    I thought Forrest was average yesterday, yet some thought he was MOM.

     

     

    I agreed with switching him to the left as he hadn’t set up a goal afte 70 mins on the right, yet some on here used that as a stick to batter Ronny :O) None of us know nothing

  16. BSR

     

     

    I’m not on the committee like HT but as far as I’m aware all issues discussed and acted upon at CT meetings are about Celtic. The hun situation is not in the interest of the CT. I presume it could be brought to the table and discussed, but if Celtic PLC can’t even accept the LW proposal, how do you think the trust will get on asking them to confront the SFA?

  17. Awe_Naw_No_Annoni_Oan_Anaw_Noo on

    SFTB,

     

     

    It is Paul67 bed your lying in … I agree with you that the sheets need changed badly but hey it is his bed. As always I appreciate your overt facetiousness. :-)

     

     

    I have no problems with your expectations but I am just passing comment that it is just being hopeful. Especially in tabloid land.

     

     

    My Mammy would say . you’re not playing with him.

     

     

    Luckily I can adopt a watching brief

     

     

    HH

  18. THE_HUDDLE on 22ND NOVEMBER 2015 6:03 PM

     

    Saint Stivs on 22nd November 2015 5:53 pm

     

     

     

     

    ā€”ā€”ā€”ā€“

     

     

     

     

    I thought Forrest was average yesterday, yet some thought he was MOM.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I agreed with switching him to the left as he hadnā€™t set up a goal afte 70 mins on the right, yet some on here used that as a stick to batter Ronny :O) None of us know nothing

     

     

    From posts over the last twenty four hours it is possible that he was average and still achieved MOM.

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/celtic-v-kilmarnock-live-updates/comment-page-25/#comment-2723499

  19. I may have pull the reigns in with the kids, they never told me this, just said the concert was magic…

     

     

     

    Police are investigating reports of gunshots outside a concert hall during a performance by an Irish republican folk band.

     

     

    Loud bangs, believed to be a firearms discharge, were heard on the Gallowgate in Glasgow at around 9.50pm while The Wolfe Tones were performing at the Barrowland Ballroom.

     

     

     

    Police Scotland said the popular city nightspot was busy with Saturday night patrons, but they have not received reports of any injuries.

     

     

     

    Police were approached by members of the public who had heard the loud bangs at the junction of Gibson Street, right outside the concert venue.

     

     

    The Wolfe Tones are named after an 18th century revolutionary regarded as the father of Irish republicanism, and are popular amongst Scotland’s Irish diaspora and supporters of city football team Celtic.

     

     

    Detective Inspector Gillian Patrick, from London Road police office, said today: “Inquiries are under way to establish the circumstances surrounding last night’s events.

     

     

    “Officers, including specialised search and forensic teams remain in the area to speak to local residents and businesses.

     

     

    Share article

     

     

    “There was a concert in the Barrowlands last night, and the Gallowgate was busy with revellers enjoying a Saturday night out.

     

     

    “It is possible that other members of the public may have heard something just before 10pm. If you have any information that can assist, I ask that you contact officers at London Road on 101.”

  20. CANAMALARĀ onĀ 22ND NOVEMBER 2015 5:03 PM

     

     

    The_Huddle,

     

     

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    I made three points and you tried to answer one, the LNS decision could have been challenged much more vigerously in fact the club could have asked FIFA to clarify the Beyson law.

     

     

    – See more at: http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/celtic-v-kilmarnock-live-updates/comment-page-24/#comment-2723477

     

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    I wish someone had gone to FIFA as I found the Bryson interpretation the opposite of all I had believed from managing an amateur club.

     

     

    I thought it undermined the very fabric of the game and questioned why registration included full financial disclosure.

     

     

    However the decision not to appeal the LNS Decision was taken by the SPL Board. Reluctantly in some cases but based on legal advice that could not be disputed at the time (but can now).

     

     

    To ask FIFA to rule would have required FIFA to do what the SFA had commissioned LNS to do with no reason to go against their fellow clubs, none of whom questioned the Bryson interpretation.

     

     

    FIFA would have said it was a matter for the SFA and had been dealt with.

     

     

    As I recall I went through the FIFA Whistle Blower Web site and complained. FIFA said no evidence to justify investigating. (I’d forgotten that until now)

     

     

    I agree with the thrust of your point but not appealing LNS on Bryson interpretation grounds is not a charge that I think can be levelled against Celtic based on how a decision not to appeal was arrived at.

  21. Something on football.

     

    Few posts about that nasty Killie mob parking the bus.

     

    What the hell happened to wingers getting in behind and cutting balls back. Or even a bit of shooting on sight.

     

    four two four, four four two one.

     

    Feck the lot of them. How about a bit of good old fashioned hit that way.

  22. Hello everyone, change of tack here.

     

    Some of you may remember that my lhad,(star of the One Show, ahem) was looking for accommodation in West London as his landlord was returning and turfing out the tenants.

     

    Firstly, thank you very much for the offers of help, you know who you are and you stepped up. Now that he has moved in to new digs in Ealing I can rest a bit easier, he looks like he has found a great place and he has new flat mates to win over. The situation was getting a bit close to the wire but all looks well.

     

    He is still within striking distance for the West London CSC and will maintain contacts there. Thanks again

     

    HH

  23. Joe Filippis Haircut on

    Sad to see a Cinema group has refused to accept an advert containing the Lords prayer as they say they dont accept adverts that are politicaly or religously linked.I wonder if it had been a muslim prayer would they have done the same thing. I say forgive them Father the know not what they are doing H.H.

  24. Quonno

     

     

    I think it might have been yourself who mentioned that when it comes to goalscoring, it’s quality and not quantity that matters. I wholeheartedly agree with that. That being said, yesterday for whatever reason it seemed when ever we did get behind their defence there was nothing to hit.

     

     

    A bigger problem for me is rather that the holy grail of two forwards in some folks opinion is the need for 2 midfielders who create very little in Brown and Bitton.

  25. Joe Filippis Haircut on 22nd November 2015 6:13 pm

     

     

    Sad to see a Cinema group has refused to accept an advert containing the Lords prayer as they say they dont accept adverts that are politicaly or religously linked.I wonder if it had been a muslim prayer would they have done the same thing. I say forgive them Father the know not what they are doing H.H.

     

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    I would assume and hope they would also refuse a muslim advert.

     

     

    No one needs any of that when they are watching a Star Wars movie

  26. Bourne

     

     

    At meetings out concerns are Celtic related in the main. I have mentioned that we should discuss it on Tuesday in light of the recent court decision. I’m sure it will be but there are a couple of reasons why I wouldn’t expect any imminent statement from us.

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