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Steve Clark please.
Gets the best out of his players.
Players respect him.
Knows how defence should be set up.
Knows how to use subs to change tactics.
Knows Scottish football inside out.
He’s the man.
CMcG / Picture against the article from the Scum — has the look of a guy who has been defending Khe Sanh with a broomstick for a month.
Surely he is not another — like SD — who is playing his XBox to 5 in the morning before a game?
Not sure what happens next — the only rational explanation for our current situation is that DD is just sticking it to the support with keeping NL in a job.
DD has no emotional attachment to the club — it is all financial.
He probably still harbours a grudge with the support from the emergency funding round in 2005.
He lashed out verbally then at the support and and like all rich / egotistical men — he never forgives and he never forgets.
The scoddish meeja did a number on Clarkey………who was probably wary anyway.
Forced him into the “O&& F£$£” Bigotry – wans as bad as the ither dead-end…………
I doubt he’s up for the fight.
I hope Dominic is……………………..
HH
SC coming up to the SPL to take on a manager’s job was strange in the extreme.
Not sure that he was given a hint that there would soon be a vacancy at CP and to stand by the phone.
Some of his comments just before BR left would suggest that he knew he was heading for a fall and that NL getting the heave from Hibs was a clue that he / SC was not now in the running.
While acknowledging I made a hames of the last point,
might I suggest that with Dominic’s maritime experience…….
he’s well placed
to steady the Ship?
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*Bddddmm Tish* CSC
Ernie Lynch on 31st January 2021 12:31 pm
GENE on 31ST JANUARY 2021 12:23 PM
Market manipulation is illegal.
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They coming for my GameStop earnings then?
James Forrest
“I don’t believe any of that was relevent to the point which – as you full well – was about Lennon’s man management abilities. Your snark about preferring to be thrown under the bus really is a poor deflection …”
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I think my point was entirely relevant.
You chose as your two examples of great “man mangers”, 2 patricians, born into power, who never earned anything from their own efforts but by throwing other men into losing their lives in order to enhance their glory. Patton’s self-publicised nickname was Old Blood and Guts (His soldiers used to see this as “His Guts- Our Blood”) . No polls were taken of what the enlisted men under his command thought of him; it was not a militia and they don’t get to elect their leaders. All press liaison was heavily scrutinised and censored by Patton himself. There are still enough contemporary accounts from post-war survivors prepared to give a more rounded and less hagiographic view of what their general put them through.
There is no doubt that, after the war, those men that survived his high-casualty rate, took some pride in the reflected glory of a lauded general who had the good grace to die shortly after the war ended, before he had pissed off everyone who had to tolerate him. Like the Butcher Ulysses S. Grant in the American Civil War, he knew that, if you had superior numbers and equipment, you could win a war by sacrificing a high amount of your soldiers because the enemy could not tolerate the same losses you could bear.
In post WW2 USA nobody was in the mood for a rounded description of US war experience. Unlike Vietnam and Saving Private Ryan (made 50 years after WW2) there was few realistic depictions of the events. WW2 non-participant, John Wayne was responsible for much of this delusional output. The books pushing the “I served with Patton” bullshit were generally written by peopke who shared his anti-communist, let’s fight WW3 now outlook. The more informed view from the professional historians who interviewed the wider body of men who did not write the books or whose books would not be published was that Patton was certifiably crazy.
General George Patton was such an over blown, self-rightieous egotist that he was relieved of his command. Patton was the kind of guy that demanded that his officers wear neckties in combat in North Africa. Patton was uniformly despised for this. Patton was the kind of guy that went around blathering about being a re-incarnated Roman general. Patton was the kind of general that made a big production about “taking Palermo” on the western tip of Sicily even though the Germans had evacuated that side of Sicily and held the eastern half in force.Patton was the kind of general violated direct orders and who did not bother to spray the swamps of Sicily with oil therefore 10,000 – ten thousand – GIs under his command were hospitalized with malaria. Patton is the kind of general that slapped around hospitalized combat veterans and called them “cowards”. Patton was relieved of command for eleven of the most crucial months of WW2.Patton was the kind of general who when he was promoted and received another star, he was so egotistical that he could not wait for the formal ceremony to pin the star on him and had one of his men make two lapel stars by hand (this is called “crowning oneself”). Patton was the kind of general that on December 8, 1945, as Patton was being chaffeured to a pheasant
hunting trip near Speyer, he bullied his driver to hurry even hough they were driving in heavy fog. The car collided with an American army truck at low speed and Patton suffered a broken neck and died.
The point is you described him, and old Julius, as good man managers when man management was not a skill they needed. They worked in a military field where man-ordering was the only skill required. If they did not obey you could have them shot or decimated. Even, if, like Julius you considered their refusal to follow your suicidal orders, to be “mutiny”, you could have them decimated, trecimated or quadrimated. You could even put individuals to death.
These strategies are not available, nor should they be, to the average fotball manager, not even the old school dinosaurs. They have to use other, less authoritarian, techniques to man manage. Jock Stein had a great rep for amateur psychology and man management. If you listened to the journos, even the great ones like McIlvanney, they sail very close to hagiography too in skirting over Jock’s many faults in that field. If you read the autobiographies of the Lions, you see a more complicated man, a man capable of gross cruelty and spite in his treatment of players like John Hughes and some players who did not “buckle” to him, such as John Fallon. Stein is, undoubtedly, a great manager and had great man management skills but he was also a bit of a ****, at times.
He could learn nothing about man management from the hagiographic histories that you find produced on behalf of war generals or titans of industry, like Iaccoca or Trump. They are written with one aim in mind- the Linberty Valance aim of printing the legend and not the facts.
some finish by Bampot
GENE on 31ST JANUARY 2021 12:23 PM
Ernie
Surely the lower the share price the more shares one can buy – it’s a good short term strategy and used in takeover strategies.
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hi Gene.interesting post on strategy and i know your sayin in relation to CT.it is one of the things in this seasons chaos i feel has come from the top ie our long term stability.
PL was rumoured to be goin at end of season- he is gone,rumours aired bout JP buying out DD not happened yet and i dont believe will happen but i get nervous of that chat with investment companies like Lindsell holdin a material stake in our club(plc)
just typin out loud maybe,
heh happy with your health Gene
hh
happy news i mean Gene :-)
hh
The answer tae why our best striker was subbed at the half when 1-2 down, cast your mind back tae the supercaley game when big Mark didnae appear for the 2nd half, well we all know the answer tae that.
Two days later and barnse was gone. 2 days further on and with only 2 notable changes to the side, Gould who allegedly caused the furore in the dressing room was dropped and berkovic was on the bench.
A 3-0 win up at Dens where our motm and scorer of our 2nd goal was big Mark.
THEBHOYFROMU.N.C.L.E on 31ST JANUARY 2021 3:05 PM
Duncan Disorderly ?…
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:)))))
Thats me, that is………
Dry January ended prematurely last night! The Buddies score put me over the edge!
JOHNMON From earlier
Agree big time but if we cant get him I’d go for Maloney, he’s learned so much with Belgium
SCHUMMI
I wonder how many of the players who NL claims let him down will be picked to trip the light fantastic on the plastic on Tuesday ? Will we see several changes ?
And …does it matter?
TONTINE TIM on 31ST JANUARY 2021 3:33 PM
Are you subtly throwing weight to the rumour that’s going around that Griff and Lennon had a half-time bust-up?
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 31ST JANUARY 2021 3:38 PM
He said they’d been letting him down most of the season so I guess there’s our answer.
The next thing we’ll have is the hun meeja will up thur agitation of any of our valuable / effective assets………..
a la Griff……………
Aye.
You see I have read lots on the blog last few years lots of positive but the growing sense of foreboding and negatively since last year gathering traction.
Now many have warned us that all was not well and we were taking our eyes off the ball I am a bit guilty of this my self .
Pointing at the rotten mob and laughing while not looking inward …why would we we were winning out the park domesticly but being told we can’t really be competitive in champs LGE Europa was our level EC etc
All this suited the board our gaze not on them with proper scrutiny .
The alarm bells should have rung when the bigots started to get Europe right this was their gateway to recovery with a board made up of fans who were willing to drop cash on it .
Oh how we laughed at there plan/model !
Now I started to look a bit harder after the league cup final last year when they played us of the park and their bottle crashed and we for once got a bit of luck from a referee.
When did the board decide to take the gamble all in on 10 did DD Dermot approve was PL acting alone and was NL just a tool to allow it for the history.
So the defacto owner the controller and the manager must have all been in on it .
Absolutely underestimatd that mob that is to he biggest crime remember back to the pre season the narrative from everyone inc.blogs was 10 so the whole support took it I think for granted while. In front of us a transfer disaster was unfolding . Nothing else matters this season
And the short termisim of NL appointment started to bite the audacity of Pl to do the minimum he thought required to limp (we were limping heavily at this point) over get his big bonus and the mess that was to be left will be some one else’s. All rebranding as a new era ….
Now Dermot must have seen all this and approved it if he is half as savy as we are told .
We don’t know what’s went/going on at team level but it’s clear Neil as passionate as he is was losing the teams efforts all sorts of disputes and unhappiness. Players being forced to stay etc wether that was NL or PL it’s a toss up .
The problem here and I hope yo all see it this is not a one year problem it may take 3/4 years to properly restructure the club you better believe to that as Paul said it gets worse. Well this is the start of worse we have not bottomed out yet I fear .
A few assets
No real squad no real back up coming thru
No manager no experienced football CEO
A board who are yes men and bottom line orientated.
My heart finally. Shattered yesterday I cannot even tell you mentally what this has done to me .
I don’t have much in life I’m not wealthy just get by as it is and my small family just bumble along getting by my life and mental salvation is this club I honestly don’t know what to do !
brilliant from leeds
BR skelpt
The way Leeds get men forward on the break is brilliant
SFTB
Fantastico !
Really, can anybody on here blame the players who want away, can you really!!!
Any player young or old wants to keep improving his game and if they see that set ups etc are not working and their performance is suffering because of that, then surely they want to go and keep improving.
Ask this of yourselves, how many of our “average! players want away – – – exactly.
Our defence is the worst I can record over decades, yet we have John Kennedy as defence coach, gimme a break. Also troubling me is how many of our real talent have regressed. Very worrying.
SCHUMMI
Lennon will be in charge till the bitter end for one reason only. No-one else will touch it with a barge pole. Would you? It’s like these poor NHS chief execs I work with, getting pressganged into poison chalice jobs.
Kennedy won’t want it and neither will anyone external. Not till the summer when the bean counting football supremo has departed stage left and the toxicity of fan anger has subsided somewhat.
I would take issue with p67’s characterisation of this as Lenny doing us a favour from a sense of duty. He has after all made this particular bed for himself, tho’ I don’t doubt he sincerely feels this sense of duty.
I will not be remotely surprised if Lennon remains in situ for the next few years. They’ll have to close the top tier and probably a couple of ends, but they do appear capable of this level of self-harming obstinacy. The contempt for ‘the mob’ is driving much of the current decision-making.
An ongoing theme these past few weeks is that NL won’t resign due to the 1-year compensation he would be due if sacked. According to the financials, that is approx 2 million ( BR was on approx 2.4 m, Gerard on 2.5 million per year over 4 years).
Some think this figure is an exaggeration, but let’s assume that is the max he is entitled to.
DD is a friend of PL and NL. They get on well with each other. Are DD and the Celtic Board really likely to be in a Mexican stand-off over a relatively small amount? If he wanted Neil gone, he wouldn’t be bothered about paying him off. If he was worried that NL was damaging the value of his investment he’d say thanks and goodbye.
That makes me fear that the comments by Neil about being “excited” by the opportunity to rebuild the team in the summer are not being said in jest. This is what he is being told by his friend(s).
Rather than pay NL 2m, the board are willing to gamble on season ticket renewals, merchandise sales and European money? It does not make sense. For arguments sake, CL qualifiers participation and Europa Cup group participation is worth 6 million. In recent years that would be the minimum expectation of the board. If they keep Neil in place, then Aberdeen or Hibs are more likely to get a chance to those riches than us.
It just does not make sense. We are likely to lose far more than the 2 mill if we keep Neil.
Baffled beyond my small brain’s ability to make any sense out of it.
remember Juventus moved from the massive Stadio Delle Alpi to a new much smaller 40000 seater stadium because they didnt need such a big stadium?
Cambuslang anyone?
BOB
We are all the same, our love of Celtic will never die,never.
It will help you mentally to concentrate on your family. they won’t let you down.
So, pecker up
SCHUMMI
It will help you mentally to concentrate on your family. they won’t let you down.
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jeez
we could be here all night if we start a thread on that
😄😄
only dogs won’t let you down 🐕
At times like these
I like to keep to the sage advice of a well-known and ( personally) oft-patronized confectioner of note…..
….” Keep Up Your Pecker, With A Cadbury’s Double-Decker”.
BOB
A good summation.
Just remember, it might take a bit of time….but we WILL get back on top
Deniabhoy………… Do winners of the SPFL title qualify for direct entry into the Champions Lge group stage?
Bob
Like a lot of us…you keep hope in your heart.
HH
….” Keep Up Your Pecker, With A Cadbury’s Double-Decker”.
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minging
i always launched them away when i opened my selection boxes at christmas
“Get on board with the double deckers”
BANKIEBHOY1 on 31ST JANUARY 2021 3:35 PM
Good man…………enjoy.
If it was Moyes who sourced the 2 Czechs for West Ham he’s got an eye for a player
3sy………………..
That was a show.
Poor old Doughnut always got a doin’………..
TigerCSC.
BANKIEBHOY1
Can’t get the theme tune out of my head now